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Stranac:
The first paragraph answered my question...

I am not spiritual but do you know the universe sometimes break the rule of physics,i wont go into detail about that..

Thirdly,how can you explain extraordinary pictures,cultures,sculptures and other art arts depicting an alien visit?please educate me

The same way I can explain the numerous pictures sculptures and other claims of seeing the face of Jesus or Mary in the sky or water or grunge on a church wall: bullshit. Show me beyond reasonable doubt that such pictures exist. Not some doctored images from some conspiracy website. Or some vague blurry image that can be interpreted however the observer wants. Give me real evidence.

And while u are at it give me a good example of how or where or when the universe breaks the rules of physics.

Stranac:
Seriously i dont believe in alien sighting but i have a feeling aliens might have visited us,the evidence is on different cultures..you just have to be open minded.

You believe there is no life on other planets cause they told you so,sounds alot like believers indoctrination to me..

How are you sure they isnt?

First, I do not believe there is no life on other planets. The sheer number of planets and galaxies in this universe is just too numerous to wave away the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
What I will argue against, though, is the assumption that those aliens visited us without any substantial evidence beyond conspiracies.

Also, if u believe aliens visited us, because of evidence in other cultures, why don't u just go further and say they are spirits instead. Just human spirits that have acquired more knowledge after death and are visiting different cultures? Or maybe not spirits or aliens. Instead another lifeform hiding among us and living within us like the lizard people or something.

You see the problem with assumptions?

Stranac:
Can you prove to me a host of aliens arent roaming our planet?Can you prove they isnt planets in mars without drawing evidence from western media/sources?


I said african government which comprises of many countries lack the resources to embark on such research,they cant even handle simple problem of corruption.How do you know they arent aliens sighting?since must africa environment lack technology to post it..

About the aliens in relation to existence of A God,it can or cannot prove the possibility of a God i dont really know for sure

And it gets more ridiculous.

So you want me to prove a negative to you right?
And I am also sure the Americans who were sighting aliens in the 1920s and 1930s had the technology to post it too.

Stranac:
If there is a proof of an alien race,the world government will do everything possible to halt and hide it..

How do you explain to people that very existence might not be from a creator and what they belief is a lie,it will be a disaster and chaos.

Science research need to be well funded and african government lack such,you cant expect Nasa to tell you the truth every time,Secrets needs to be well guarded,you can see religion is a tool but once you snapped out of it you are open to all possibilities.

Most atheist here think the universe is about science and it follow a set of rule,No it doesnt.The universe is very unpredictable and the more you are open to possibilities the clearer it becomes.

The quality of arguments I have seen by supporters of the alien theory on this thread is downright disappointing. How does the existence of aliens negate the possibility of a creator? Please enlighten me.

African governments can't fund alien research but they can hide the truth? Why aren't we seeing aliens landing in Africa easily with the same amount of frequency they are being sighted in America since African govts do not have the means to cover things up?

According to u, the universe is unpredictable. I am amazed as to how u leapt from that to "aliens exist".

SoundLock:
There is something important I want to say. I have noticed that people tend to have an extremely sceptical approach to this subject, even despite overwhelming evidence for it. The argument these people tend to have is that science or established institutions reject the claims as hoaxes. What people like this do not understand is that the institution of science and other establishments that have the capacity to officially verify knowledge are all controlled and regulated by the government, and in this case I mean western governments, especially the United States.

The subject on the existence of Aliens is a very controversial and dangerous subject because if Aliens are officially proven to exist and to have interfered with human development, the very fabric of society would crumble, religious organizations would be a state of confusion, political structures would wobble and the entire world would be in a state of hysteria. No western government would want this sort of information to be believed as true by the people, for lots of obvious reasons. Hence why they use their institutions to discredit data that supports the claims.

Most people don't believe that western governments could do such. They can't comprehend how those in power could force scientific institutions to lie or conceal the truth. This in my opinion is a consequence of moral naivety and a poor knowledge of history.

This is a quote from Jordan Peterson, a professor of psychology at University of Toronto, Canada --

"Enlightenment is the medication for vulnerability. But if the barrier to enlightenment is the development of the self consciousness of the individual's infinity capacity for evil, then it's no wonder why enlightenment is in such short supply"

Here is another quote from William March:

"Good people are rarely suspicious. They cannot imagine others doing the things that they themselves are incapable of doing. Usually they accept the undramatic solution as the correct one and let matters rest there."

If you understand the evil that you are capable of, they you can easily recognize this capacity in others.

The Western governments(power structures of the west) have in modern times had a disreputable history of lying to its citizens and to the world. They have a history punctuated by deceit, callousness and the execution of atrocious actions just get what they want; which usually is to maintain power, control & dominance.

Operation Gladio is an example of what western powers can do to get what they want. It's the codename for a clandestine operation carried out by the west in the 20th century where false flag attacks which included train bombings and mass shooting were executed on western population and these attacks were then blamed on the Soviet union. Over 100 people were killed during these attacks. When people began to make claims that these attacks were false flags, established government controlled bastions of truth dismissed them as hoaxes. It was only until quite recently that western governments came out to apologize and confess to what they did. There have been similar documented cases like Operation Northwoods, Operation Washtub and Operation Susannah where after many years of lies and deceit, the government confessed of their crimes.

The reason I'm saying all this is that we shouldn't be quick to dismiss claims just because established western institutions call them hoaxes.

I was actually enjoying most of your arguments but the more u talk the more u seem to me like just another guy with a tin-foil hat. Please give me a credible news source for your claim that Western governments apologized and confessed for Operation Gladio.

The problem I have with u now is the same problem I have with the New Age pseudointellectuals in this religion section of Nairaland. What you guys do is mix facts and scientific truths with a lot of paranoia and unsubstantiated claims and expect us to take everything together because of the little facts that u have peppered on the mound of lies and wishful thinking.

I actually believe this your alien theory is plausible. But nothing you have said on this thread makes it any more believable. All u have done is appeal to conspiracy theory to try to drum in your point.
I won't even want to begin to talk about this:

The subject on the existence of Aliens is a very controversial and dangerous subject because if Aliens are officially proven to exist and to have interfered with human development, the very fabric of society would crumble, religious organizations would be a state of confusion, political structures would wobble and the entire world would be in a state of hysteria.

Granted you have a way with words. But this is as ridiculous as it is baseless. If there is anything we are sure of, it is the fact that the world's major religions will adapt to incorporate any such evidence of aliens as a proof that their religion is true.

By the way you keep mentioning Western governments. What about the others? Are they in on the conspiracy too? Including African governments?

Interesting thread

adjoviomole:
It never said pick up snakes intentionally. Read and comprehend bro.

I am guessing it also didn't say they will place their hands on sick people intentionally and the sick people will get well. Lol

Chai. Modern Christians. The biggest liars in the history of the world.

trapQ:
You must be really stupid. I dont post stuff for validation. I post what i want to and I owe nobody any explanations. If you have nothing sensible to say you can ignore other than spreading your crass ignorance everywhere. There's absolutely no difference you and a raving mad man on the street. Calling somebody names for what you have absolutely no idea about.
I understand that trolling Christians gives you orgasms but leave me out of your schizophrenia.

Everything I stated above are true and i can give the name and address of the victim to any sensible person who cares to know. You however have no business in my mentions.

Oya Mr Petty Liar. Give us the name and address of the victim o. I am sure many sensible people here care to know. Clown of the century.
If the moronic composition you have up there is what u think is a befitting reply to my pointing out your buffoonery, I can only pity the waste that you are. So much effort so little sense.
I just mentioned you again. Kill yourself.

adjoviomole:
Whatever you are entitled to your opinion. I call off the dare. Moderator kindly take out the tread. Close it please.

Another village clown learns his first lesson on Nairaland. Not everyone think like the superstitious idiots you surround yourself with. Before some of us became sceptics like myself or atheists like some other people on this thread, we have had enough life experiences. We have experimented. We have been dared. We have called bluffs. And time and again it is people like u with no experience or even the balls to back it up that tries calling us out.

adjoviomole:
New development. I am sorry to have posted this in the first place, I take back everything I have said, to those reading the book or intending to, and to those who intend to carry out whatsoever instructions written in the book, please stop. I call off the dare.


I feel guilty already, I don't want to be responsible for someone else's life. Please stop.

Useless copout.

The two clowns on this thread trapQ and the OP are hilarious fraudsters. They think coming here to tell us vague tales about unconfirmed acquaintances will scare anyone. The last resort of buffoons.
The same way both of u know someone, I also know someone. But u don't see me using it as evidence here. I used to know a guy from my secondary school days that after school he tried everything to get rich quick. Church of Satan, 7 books of Moses etc..... Nothing worked. He is now a staunch skeptic.
In my 100 level days same thing happened. The one guy practiced everything then later gave it up for Christianity. He claimed the real power is only in Jesus and there is no power in all that nonsense.
Well we now know that there is no power in Christianity either. Just a bunch of conmen and junkie followers that are addicted to the feel-good feelings that those conmen provide.

adjoviomole:
My uncle tried it and I know what happened to him, so why should I try it.

They have started with their lies. Christians and petty dumb lies. What happened to your uncle?

I am sure the OP himself has never tried his book. He is probably a Christian who was told that the book is demonic and evil things can happen to people through the book. So now he is here fear mongering.

I like how this guys can't prove their version of God exists. But they want to prove that dark power exists to prove that their god exists. Lol. What a shame.

Omooba77:
Truth remains Eternal sir

Exactly. So stop deceiving yourself.

The Song of Solomon is erotica. It is the Jewish version of the Kamasutra. And that's the extent to which Jewish puritanism and censorship will allow them go. There is nothing remotely spiritual about that book.
One guy was probably high on fermented camel milk one night and decided to write down some of his fantasies while jerking off. There is no evidence that Solomon wrote the book and if he did, it was probably one of those times he was in the harem with his 700 concubines. Of course since the man was considered the wisest of them all, his judgement could not have been questioned.

Omooba77:
Many people have doubted the reality of the Holy Spirit which is third Personality of Trinity.
Many of us have had the encounter with him through the small still voice. A man I knew said one day he sat down and said; someone said Iam not the way, pray to God to show you the way. And Jesus said Iam the Way, the Truth and the Life; that is how he gave his life to Jesus, today he is a minister in Foursquare Gospel Church.
One woman went to pilgrimage and that is how Jesus met her, today she is an evangelist.
The Holy Spirit has directed my path and wisdom I could not have imagined.
One point try the Spirit to be sure is from God.
Have a bless day!

If the main evidence u have for the Holy spirit u claim to have is a small still voice then u haven't started. U are just deceiving yourself. The voice that speaks in people's heads is always a still small voice. Same with the voice that tells u to check out the ass of that hot chick. Even the voice that tells lunatics to kill people randomly is always gentle and soft. It is never a hard croaking voice. Stop fooling yourself.

As to the second point about one woman going on a pilgrimage, I fail to see how that helps your case. Any random möron can go anywhere and come back with "spiritual enlightenment" and that's not a sign of anything remotely sensible. There are even people who visit the holy land and come back with a mental illness. It is called Jerusalem Syndrome. Hers is probably a benign variation of it.
What would have been newsworthy is if she came back from there and started raising random dead people in hospitals and healing people with medically verifiable illnesses.

front2line:
If person talk they will say someone should find a polite way to get his point across but with all due respect do you expect Lagos port to stand still so other port after it will catch up with it ? Why do many of your Igbos chose to be deliberately foolish just to be a tribal bigot ? Why ?!

This is the problem with most of you on Nairaland. Your hate for other people cannot make u see well. The man isn't even arguing that Lagos port should stand still. He is countering Throwback's argument that one sea port is enough. The man is saying that more sea ports can be economically beneficial.
But ur prejudice and hate has read other meanings into it and has started calling him Igbo. You can't deny that the sole purpose of this your thread is not to engage in any intellectual discussion but to fuel hate like most of u do on Nairaland.
I am expecting u to call me Igbo too and start throwing insults. SMH

LaudableXX:
Why? Does my ethnic minority group, owe you anything?

If you want to know how many of my people are into the import/export trade, just take a trip to the ports. A trial will convince you.

As the OP that opened his thread, there was nothing tribalistic in his opening post, o! Are you sure you read it at all, before jumping up to throw a tantrum while making sweeping allegations? Can you tell us what was tribalistic about saying that the Calabar port witnessed a 40% increase in shipping traffic?

Go back to the beginning of this thread and study the OP's post again. I am sure you can read.....

Some of u are just plain dishonest. I was supporting everything u have been saying until u claimed the OP didn't start tribalism on this thread. Come on! The second comment on the thread is by the same OP. It is just a continuation of the first. Look at it again.

oyetpel:
It's low key

Low Key is Loki from Norse mythology. They weren't even trying to hide it. That's why I am calling him the normal way.

If if were ever this simple then girls will not be dating married men. The intricacies of such relationships is not something that can be reduced to 10 funny cards and be expected to produce any reliable result.

GoodMuyis:
Nehemiah 4


How does it concerns you how the church will generate enough power to supply it to the national grid. Why should you care if they will give it free or not. How many bulb did you supply power to in your street.

My friend leave the gang of never-do-well and stop being bitter against church, Nigeria church is moving forward

This is how u can identify a super-morön. The guy asked u a question based on the assumptions of your OP. U made a claim, a very bold one at that, and he asked u to defend it.
Instead of doing just that like any honest person would, u resorted to name-calling and puerile taunting. This is very telling. Very Christian of u.

This op is a GMO. Only that his genes was spliced with a lot of moronic genes.
How's this a prediction that Wenger will leave? Simple word association and interpretation, u are incapable of that but u think u will be able to interpret the mind of God. Freaking joke of an apostle.

Months back while reeling out series of international predictions he stated that, "On Arsenal manager, Arsene Wenger, the coach may develop naughty attitudes that may make the football fans to protest against him. He must rebuke cases of carelessness which may make his team suffer some setbacks. His team will start the season on a serious note but his match plans and arrangements will be queried. He will have troubles with the management of his club.”

Desperate tricksters.

Another stupid thread

Tosinex:
Tithe is your monthly responsibility to the House of God, as long as you are working and you are a Christian, you are charged to help in your local church development by tithing and also in giving offerings.

Where did u get this idea from? From the bible or from dogma that ur gluttonous pastors have been force-feeding u?

spongeisback:
so the Jewish God needs earthly money to complete your heavenly mansions?!

Lol. The audacity of these criminals. SMH

asuustrike2009:
Exactly. It is very easy to type because talk is cheap

Lol because God is your personal assassin, right? U guys don't even realise how idiotic u sound when u make these statements. People have been calling out ur pastors for ages. How many of them have died gruesome deaths? U think u scare anyone with this nonsense?

The moronic gadfly took to his heels when he started getting calls from people to prove what he teaches actually applies in his life. He realised that claiming to be something online for long doesn't actually translate to becoming that thing in reality.
His family then decided to organise an intervention and take him to a psychiatric physician to enable him to cope with his delusions. The medicine they gave him must have been working because in one of his last threads he was asking if he truly sounds like an unhinged lunatic. So he deleted his account because he couldn't keep up the ruse and he is now getting psychiatric help.
Good riddance. He won't be missed by anyone with a functioning brain.

Lmao. Clowns everywhere

jared007:
Keep speaking ill of Men of God and be smiling. Tomorrow when an incurable sickness or accident hit u, u would start seeking pity parties to sorry for u not knowing the law of cause and effect is in action.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the kind of comment people make when they have sold their brain to religious dogma and pastor ass-licking. What a pathetic soul.

Butterflyleo:
Are there? If there are, show me

Lol. In your fit of hubris you are making a blanket statement about the impossibility of other universes "however deformed" as u so eloquently put it owing to your inability to observe them. Yet u failed to realise that this is the same argument the atheists make about the existence of your god.

Show us your god.

Butterflyleo:
At the bolded so why did the randomness stop independent of each other.

Why did the moon not continue being random but has now deliberately mantained a calculated order of assisting the earth with seasons and temperature despite not being a part of it.

Also why did the sun stop being random and continue on a different path? Why is it constantly giving life to our habitable planet to all organisms here?

Randomness never deliberately stops at any point because it is mindless and does not known when order has been achieved. So why is this your chaos different?

Oh lord my god. Guy why na. U have just been disappointing me so far. The moon was not always at this distance from the earth; it moved farther and it might still move even farther. The universe itself is expanding and accelerating.
Nothing is exactly the way it has been and neither has it stopped changing. The initial random chance still continues.
The earth u are talking about supports the life that lives on it. The sun does not deliberately support life on earth. It is the organisms on earth that evolved to depend on the sun and the earth's atmosphere and the moons gravitational pull. There's probably another planet whose organisms have evolved to adapt to something else entirely.

The sun itself is trying to kill every organism on this earth. It doesn't care. It is not out to support life. It is just doing its own thing and life just evolved to be supported by it. Without the protection of the earth's magnetic field and ozone layer, most things will be dead already.

The earth still exists based on chance. Just look at Mars. It should remind u that there is a thin line between a thriving planet and a "dead" one. Since the existence of the earth it has been hit by numerous asteroids and the only reason it is still here is because of chance. It has been lucky enough to to be hit by an asteroid large enough to knock it out of its orbit. There are rogue planets right now that are just floating idly through the expanse of the cosmos because they were once knocked out of orbit of their solar system for some reason.

I am almost reaching the end of this thread so I will start replying your replies to me soon.

Butterflyleo:
The laws that govern our universe speak of order and this implies that order gave birth to order because chaos cannot give order.

Light can only give light. It cannot give darkness. What you have is what you give and that is why the law of cause and effect will keep refuting you.

***Face palm***
Jesus. Has this guy ever heard of Chaos theory before?

A certain facet of chaos can be very orderly.