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@neyeee,
, was david also an ogboni member??just wondering!!!!
Please never u compare david with obj,
Has obj repented frm his sins??has he confessed d amount of souls he has killed??has he reported all d monies he has stolenhas he entered d prison to show repentance??
And some fools will still attend d church,

Simply put Jesus felt d loss of lazarus even when he knew he culd still with d help of his Father Yahweh ressurect him, d bereaved relatives of lazarus that were cryin and wailing definitly affected Jesus's disposition and he gave way to tears,
It shows 1 thing::::
1, That Jesus does sympathize with our ordeals we face today
2, Jesus as our master is compassionate and will accomplish a lot as Yahwehs king designate when d end comes, he will,with d authority vested on him by Yahweh  ressurect all those who have died to life,
3, And it shows finally that Jesus is Yahwehs only begotten son,

@fx, falling down is not and is never a sign of 1 who is filled with d holyspirit, all the fallings today are just charades done by d churches to get more customers,
Now ask urself:::what does d falling accomplish, d holyspirit is given to us to preach about Gods kingdom to d world not to roll on d floor like mad dogs,
Let d churches stop this 5hit and preach d truth and anticipate Gods kingdom,
In d long run u'l see d truth of this falling happenin in todays churches,
I just want u to examine d country in which people fall all d time claiming d holyspirit has overwhelmed them, look @ how corrupt 9ja is, when they fall down on sunday they immediately stand up on monday to cheat d hell out of there associates, kill,and embessle money,
Why don't they make our ogboni  politicians fall on d floor with holyspiritwhy is it always d poor that will roll on d floorwhyyyyyyyy??
Its all gibberish, Gods kingdom is by d corner,these trick stars will all answer questions from Jesus, matthew 7:21-23 tells us,

sheldon123:
The link that @jacobscros shared is a link to an awesome video of an American female preacher. The whole church fell under the power without her even touching anybody.

The woman bein a female pastor shows how fake her ministry is and d attendants are,
A woman blows and everybody falls, lwkmd!!!
Jesus will realy tell these trick stars "get away ,I never knew u,u workers of iniquity",

The question y'all should be asking is WHAT IS GODs KINGDOM??
Many do not even till today know what Gods kingdom is,
That is why they can't preach it, Rather they preach temporary prosperity and gibberish,

Now to the whole nairaland,
Joagbagbe and every1 what is Gods kingdom

@omopastor, have professed christians not tried ruling b4 and aren't they stil into politicswhat has the result been?, bloodshed,racial discrimination,bigotry,cheating,riggings etc,
The popes got involved in politics in d past and d crusade came up that killed many, today in 9ja professed christians claim to rule but efcc dey always pursue then for back and bloodshed continues,
Wake up and realise that satan rules these political sits and position and d world in general, satan is d god of this world, and so if u want to get involved in politics u must worship him in 1 way or the other, why do u tink Jesus himself refused political positions when he came to d earth?who would better rule and change this wicked world?Jesus our perfect king or some imperfect men who don't knw there left frm there right??,
And as Jesus refused political sits because his kingdom is not part of d world he immediately urged his disciples to be no part of d world,
Humans can't change d worlds situation,christians can't even if all d popes and clerics run as presidents and governors in all d countries in d world, situations will still continue like this and intensify from bad to worse, until satan is locked up d world will remain crasy as it is but Gods people are to be focused and remain neutral like Jesus was,
d bible tels us what God will do to human rulership, D bible says Gods kingdom will crush all these political elements, I wonder what will happen to its rulers,ofcus u can answer that, u can claim christianity and run around politics but let Gods kingdom not catch up wit u in ur ambition, u might have urself to blame oo,
Becos when God descends on human rulership and d political world as revelation tells us both d kingdoms and its advocates will be destroyed, so be warned!!!!

But people too mumu!!!
If I may ask goshen 360 and joagbagbe, what has d falling on d ground accomplished in the lives of d persons fallinghas it made them better followers of christhas it cleansed many from there immoral lives??has it cleansed our politicians from there looting tendencies??has it made even d pastor chris and who ever does those abrakatabra see that being materialistic as they are is bad
U guys quote when Jesus casted out a demon from some1, I agree Jesus performed such but when he did d demon left d person,
Jesus accomplished something, but it was only demon possessed persons who acted funny when ever miracles were performed on them, But today everybody likes to fall when these fake pastors lay there hands on them, d apostles layed hands on saul b4 he became paul,did paul roll on d floor like 1 who had seizure??or did paul fall on d ground as an evidence of an annointingwhat about cornelius and all d other gentiles that hands were layed on?did they roll stupidly on d floor d way u guys misbehave today??did they fall on d floordid any out of d 120 disciples who were @ d upper room in pentecost 33c.e fall on d floor when d holy spirit descended on them?
What about d 3000 that were baptised that same daydid they fall on the floor when d holy spirit came on them

Ona just too mumu today!!!, how does falling on d floor connect with annointing or being filled with d holy spiritd funny thing is after d blowing of breeze done by chris oyakilome and his colleagues 90 percent of that same crowd go back to fornicate,lie,cheat,commit adultery,embessle government funds,masturbate etc, so what was d annointing forto mumu about abi??,
Jesus said he will deny many who will perform wonderful works,cast out demons and make people roll on d floor ,but only those who do the will of his Father and God Yahweh will he accept,
Laying hands on people to fall down like foolish persons is not part of Gods will in these last days, rather it is those who obey Gods command and observe Jesus words that will survive this world,
So tell ur pastors to cut to d chase and teach people d right things, and stop all this melodrama,

@image123, can u please show me that expression "God the son" in the bible??, just show me and I'l concede to this man made,pagan doctrine called trinity,
Somebody just told u and asked u who gave Jesus d power he has,u havnt answered,
If u can't fully understand 1corinthians 15:27 $ 28 then u need a doctor to chek on ur brain, sorry I said that!!, lol
Just show me the expressions "God the son" and
"God the holy spirit" in the bible then I go join ona worship 3 GODs in 1,
All over the bible we always see d expression "God the father" referring to Yahweh,
But I can bet we havnt seen the other expressions b4 in d whole bible,
I want u to realy realise how man made d trinity doctrine is, all d expressions attached to trinity,and the word trinity  itself doesn't exist in the bible, what more do u need to see how useless d doctrine is!!!!,
It is becos of this same doctrine that catholics now pray through mary, why?? Because they'v made d ordained mediator(Jesus) between man and Yahweh as the almighty God,
If Jesus our mediator $ high priest now becomes the God we should worship , who will mediate and intercede for us?and to whom?
will Jesus mediate to himself and carry our sacrifices to himself?ehhhh?
Common sense should just let trinitarians hw foolish there man made doctrine is,
It is becos of this foolishness that many jews cannot embrace christianity,
Jesus himself said this" listen o isreal Yahweh our God is 1 Yahweh". , what else do u image123 and ur cohorts want?,
It is becos of this same doctrine that OOO olumba people worship that black calabar man and his children @ calabar, why?because they claim he is d helper Jesus promised his disciples God will send, and since d trinity dogma teaches d holy spirit is a person $ is God, they nw worship a man becos they feel he is d helper,
The trinity teachn has brought nothing but idolatry and foolishness,
Costantine must pay for this!!!

@nuclear boy, please tell me what d expression "sit @ my right hand", please explain,
I'm not even lookin @ it from d physical aspect that Jesus will literally sit down on Gods right hand, i'm speaking from d symbolic view ,
That sitting @ 1's right hand shows subordinance,
Thats d point, Yahweh is the 1 exalting Jesus to even that position not Jesus assuming it,
There is virtually nothing that Jesus owns or have that wasnt given to him by Yahweh, All d power Jesus has was given & bestowed upon him by some1 greater, didnt u read when Jesus said he does nothing except what his Father tells him to do??Jesus recieves commands & he obeys quikly,
Jesus is to sit @ d right hand(subordinate)!!!, whether Jesus stands or sit does not affect his being lesser than Yahweh his Father, mayb u might start asking me if Yahweh is standing or sitting as well, symbollicaly speaking Jesus is still subordinate accordin to revelations
Have u read 1 corinthians 15:27 & 28,
Please read,

victorazy:
God is one but have Seven Spirits

Hahahahaha, my belle oo, 7 ke?
Abi 7nity wan develope?

@poster, which tongue is ur wife speaking in?
Efik?
Urhobo?
Turkish?
German?
French?
Chinese?
Swahili?
hindi?
Polish?
Spanish??


OR

Shintarabapopopopoblablapoopoootatatkukukukukukukpepepepepepeptitititititititiititititkakakakakakakakakakakakakakamememememememememememmememe?'''''''@@@@/////??

Abeg which tongues she dey speak,
Can u please just tel ur wife to cultivate each aspect of d fruit of GODs holy spirit as found @ galatians 5:22-23, , tell her politely & from d scriptures that if she aint speaking in any language that can be recognised & understood to the benefit of others then she aint saying nothing,
Tell her that if her speakin in tongues cant be interpreted to benefit even u closest to her then she should kindly keep quiet, just take ur wife to 1 corinthians 14 & read it with her & kindly ask her what she is realy speaking??,
Do all of these politely oooooooo if not fight fit commot, lol, But tel her d truth, as d man of d house u suppose get bible knowledge pass her, so do that

@image, have u read 1corinthians 15;27 & 28??
Please explain it, u either tell me wethher paul was drunk when he wrote those words or wether Jesus was still on earth with flesh & blood,

Image123:
The OP already answerEd the question. Seems he was seeking more discussion on the issue. Christ Jesus the man, the lamb was made lower so it's obvious that the Father's greater than Him. But God the Son is co-equal, same glory same honour same power same divinity through eternity, as God the Father and God the Spirit.

Did Jesus ever open his mouth to explain what u just explained or are u the 1 insinuating d reason why Jesus said the Father is greater than i am??,
Did Jesus ever tell u that it was becos he was in human flesh thats why he's Father was greater than he was?,
Was it not d same Jesus u guys quote while on earth that still used his (human form) mouth to say if u'v seen me, u've seen d Father??
you guys have a flimsy reason to give(saying he was in human flesh) when Jesus said his Father is greater than he is , but when he says still in d human form that if" u'v seen me u'v seen d Father" u guys rush to interprete it literally becos it suits d trinity teaching, no be so?
who told u d Father is not still greater than Jesus after Jesus's ascension?,
Its like u forget why Jesus is sitting on d right hand side of Yahweh and not sharing d same spot with Yahweh,
Why will i allow my equal to sit on a throne while i sit @ his right hand(a subordinate position/the sit of the son of a king)
All what Jesus said while on earth is who Jesus is, flesh or with no flesh Jesus has always been subordinate to his Father & forever will be, read 1 corinthians 15:27 & 28,

frosbel how many times i don tell u say Gods spirit is not a ghost,
Kjv made a mistake while translating can we all learn & maked d change
Have u ever tried lookin up d hebrew & greek words used to render "spirit" or d holy spirit?
its nothing close to a ghost, God is not a ghost & so his spirit is not 1 either,
did God die that his spirit is now a ghost or is Gods spirit a demon or an apparition
Holy ghost is d most spurious expression for Gods spirit!!!!

its simple , he's Father is greater than he is & Jesus is lesser than his Father, As simple as ABC,
Jesus came from heaven & opened his mouth to say such because he has always been subject to his Father & will forever be,

CHARLOE:
If u didn't tell me nothing and i told someone u told me so & so, then i've lied against u. Therefore, if the holy spirit didn't speak to u and u come out to say 'd holy spirit told me so & so, then u've lied against d holy spirit'. Alot of pastors are guilty of this.
Secondly, u come out to say gibberish in the name of speaking in tongues, just to impress men; u know deep down u don't have d gift of speaking in tongues, but u sha want to belong, have u not lied against d holy ghost?

Oboy shake my hand!!!!!:, u just hit d nail ni,

@snowy, just d way Yahweh & Jesus are one, so also we christians are one with Jesus, so also a husband is 1 with his wife,but 1 always greater than the other,
Just as Jesus is greater than man, so also Yahweh is greater than Jesus, so also a husband is greater than his wife, they are one in unity but never one in strength & abilities & authority
1 corinthians 11:3 , john 17:21-23, Oneness is not a far-fetched ideology, ,
and there's 1 thing i'm so 100% sure of, That d bible we are holding is not exactly what d apostles wrote & had, there definitly has been some discrepancies, but it doesnt make me doubt d bible, but if 1 read d bible witout any external influence from any doctrine,d person will conclude that Jesus is subordinate to his Father, that is why he is called a son,high priest,mediator, he should discard those names if he's equal with his God(Yahweh)

@nuclear boy, if ur confused please pick ya bible & read 1 corinthians 11:3, i'v quoted this same scripture a million times, and guess what??The holy spirit is not even in d chain of headship & those who are subordinates, And mind u that 1corinthians 11:3 was a scripture written after Jesus ascension, infact Jesus was in heaven when apostle paul penned those words,

1 funny thing i'v noticed is that trinitarians end up being unitarians or STOP worshiping Jesus without even knowing it,
Why do they still say in "JESUS NAME" after prayer?
If Jesus was d almighty GOD or Yahweh, who will be d mediator then.,,
, who will intercede between man & Yahweh then
Or mayb Jesus will be shifting positions immediately, After interceding & pleading on mankinds behalf as d mediator he then runs back, changes to d almighty God & then recieves d prayers, shape shifting!!!!??,
Now i see why d catholics pray through mary because they'v made d high priest & mediator of Yahweh, Yahweh himself,
Trinity has realy turned worship upside down,
, madness!!!!

First-century Jewish religious leaders who maliciously opposed Jesus Christ were sinning against the holy spirit. They saw Yahwehs spirit at work in Jesus as he performed miracles that honored Yahweh. Yet, these enemies of Christ attributed this power to Satan the Devil. According to Jesus, those who thus blasphemed against Yahwehs holy spirit were thereby committing a sin that would not be forgiven in the present “world nor in that to come.”—Matthew 12:22-32.
Blasphemy is defamatory, injurious, or abusive speech. Since the holy spirit has Yahweh as its Source, saying things against his spirit is the same as speaking against Yahweh. Unrepentantly resorting to speech of that kind is unforgivable. Jesus’ words about such sin show that Jesus is referring to those who willfully oppose the operation of Yahwehs holy spirit. Because Yahwehs spirit was at work in Jesus his son but his opposers ascribed this power to the Devil, they sinfully blasphemed against the spirit. Hence, Jesus declared: “Whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit has no forgiveness forever, but is guilty of everlasting sin.”—Mark 3:20-29.
Consider also the case of Judas Iscariot. He pursued a dishonest course, stealing from the money box entrusted to his care. (John 12:5, 6) Judas later went to the Jewish rulers and arranged to betray Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. Yes, Judas felt remorse after the betrayal, but he never repented of his deliberate sin. Consequently, Judas is not worthy of a resurrection. Jesus therefore called him “the son of destruction.”—John 17:12; Matthew 26:14-16.

also the motive, the heart condition, and the degree of willfulness involved in a sin we’ve committed is what determines whether a sin is forgivable or not. We are warned @ (Hebrews 10:26, 27) “If we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, but there is a certain fearful expectation of judgment.” Also john tells us sometin important @ ” (1 John 5:16)……….
The most important thing is repentance from our wrongdoings no matter how grievous they maybe…the pharisees were unrepentant,judas Iscariot too,……we today should be repentant & turn around, thanks!!!!!

@frosbel, if u worry urself with pope tori u go grow dada oooooo,
My own little problem is just d great politics behind d appointment of every new pope,
Its just like pdp elections,
I tire my bro, how we go do?,
If they claim Jesus is God why still worship mary & d pope, d people just tire my life

@frosbel, answer my questions & dont ask me if i'm born again,
many born agains have existed b4 any other one today & what u believe is so not what they believed,
Answer my questions,
Y'all should be happy that we aint living in the days of d isrealites when God strike people down for idolatry,
All trinitarians would have been wiped off,
Jesus came to earth to teach us more about Yahweh and here i am today hearing that Jesus played tricks on us, decieving us that he was Yahweh's only begotten son, meanwhlie he was the Yahweh himself,
I dont blame u today for asking me if i'm a born again,
Tertullian who wasnt a born again instigated this poo called trinity & u a professed born again is adopting it,
I believe in Jesus christ as Yahwehs servant,priest,apostle,only begotten son,prophet,mediator,faithful witness and that is d more reason i believe Jesus died for our sins & is serving as priest in heaven,interceding for me & u not to himself but to Yahweh,
All those titles d bible attached to Jesus can never be attached to Yahweh,
Even when d pharisees wanted to stone Jesus,claimin he said he was God, Jesus still re-emphasized d fact that he was d son of God,
Jesus used his own mouth to say he's Father(Yahweh) is greater than he is & dat is why he worshipped Yahweh, but u frosbel & all ur trinitarian apologists say Jesus is lying, who make i believe?
You or Jesus himself??, are u Jesus
I read ur post and d scriptures u quoted & i replied with scriptures in return,
I gave u reasons why Jesus cant be Yahweh,
I agree Jesus is divine because he is a spirit and he also existed b4 d world was created & that he was Gods agent during creation and that he was always with his Father(Yahweh),
but he is lesser than is Father(Yahweh),just as d rest angels in heaven altho divine too are lessr than Jesus, he is subordinate to his Father (Yahweh) anyday anytime & even forever,
If u like argue,apostle paul in d bible told us how long Jesus would be subordinate to Yahweh, and how long Yahweh will have authority over Jesus 1corinthians 15:27 & 28, 1 corinthians 11:3 FOREVER:,
i worship Yahweh, Yeshua(Jesus) my lord takes my worship to Yahweh our Father, Yahweh is both d Father & God of Jesus & of all of us, get that straight
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@frosbel, from ur conclusion that Jesus is truly Yahweh then it means Yahweh d almighty God died, abi.
Then it means Yahweh is the son of man,the lamb,the servant of Yahweh,
Then it means Yahweh is a morning star and also an apostle & also a priest,
Then it means all d while Jesus lied to his apostles tellin them that he is d son of Yahweh,
Then it means all d bible prophesies lied about who was to come to save mankind,
Then it also means that Yahweh worshiped himself,
From ur analogy u fully believe in MODAlism,
When Jesus cried out in agony "Father Father why have u forsaken me" it means it was Yahweh who was crying & sweating and needed help from himself,
it also means that when d bible says Jesus sat @ d right hand Yahweh it means Yahweh sat down @ his own right hand,
Then it also means when Jesus said d day & hour he doesnt know but only d Father, it means that Yahweh never knew d day as well, which will means we have a God that doesnt know anything about d end, abi??which means we are hopeless!!!

satan has finally accomplished what he wanted with d trinity dogma, to make sure people never serve Yahweh, and that people end up been foolish so as to think like kindergaton kids, keep up wit ur trinity mentality ur gonna pay for it someday,

Jokingly:
GOD IS TRINITY.Gen1-3in the begining God created heaven and earth,and the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep the SPIRIT OF GOD(GOD THE HOLY GHOST)moved upon the face of the waters and GOD said let thier be light and there was light.john 3:16 talks of GOD THE SON.pray 4 GODS understanding b4 u run ur mouth.

The spirit of God & God the holy ghost, do they sound alike in ur ears? or did constantine & all d trinitarian apologists made u dumb??
How can Gods spirit be a ghostare u trinitarians mad or delusioned?,
so till today u dont know that the spirit of God & God d holy ghost are not d same thinginfact there is no expression like God d holy ghost or God the son in the whole entire bible
Have u ever seen the expression" God d holy ghost" in the bible before
Have u??, if there is ever an expression like that in d bible then i'l surrender to the trinity dogma


have u checked up d hebrew word "RUACH" that was used to describe Gods spirit in that genesis chapter 1 verses 1-3,
Other translations uses "and d power of God was moving to & fro"
The spirit of God is not a seperate person from God, neither is Gods spirit a person, it is Gods power!!!!!!!, please pick up a good news bible & read genesis chapter 1, pick up other translations & learn
Neither is God a ghost for his spirit to be a ghost,

@wesley, how do u know u are speaking in tongues when u actually had to attend a holy ghost class to learn it,
what i wrote about hw people claim they speak in tongues should tell u how useless it has become today,
Winners,christ embassy,salvation ministries,redeem etc all do d same thing & say the same pattern of gibberish incohorent words & then claim they r speaking in tongues,
"SPEAK neither ENGLISH nor ur NATIVE DIALECT,just speak unknown words then d holy ghost will take it up from there"

is that not d nonsense all those who claim they speak in tongues are told?

@micuilles, how many disciples have u made as a christian
How many persons have u baptised
All i'v been seeing here is how u got a job, how u gave 1st fruit & then u got double of what u gave,
Money!money!! Money!!! Is what this prosperity churches have filled ur heads with, is this what christianity is about??, money doubling?,
Where are ur treasures

@wesley, oya make i ask u 1 personal question,
HOW many people u don convert to christianity by speaking in tongues
What have u personally achieved by speaking in tongues,
D apostles accomplished a lot with it ,what have modern day speakers of tongues accomplished with there's
Back then d apostles could boldly say that they had preached thru out d whole of judea,samaria & to d most distant part of d earth with the help of speaking in different tongues to there honest hearted audience,
What have u all accomplished with ona speaking in tongues today?,
If not just to make serious noise hear & there, blabbing over unknown words like a 1yr old kid who's learnin how to talk,
I confidently told u what my cousin experienced @ winners chapel just to get baptised,
After he told me that i called him a big "MUMU" , i also told my cousin to rate his pastor's head for not being able to know & detect that he(my cousin) spoke rubbish just to pass that class,and then finally i called every other person who thought they had spoken in tongues in that class "OLODO's", lol,
Imagine what he was told b4 he spoke d rubbish just to pass the speakin in tongues test, d pastor told him
"DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH, DO NOT SPEAK IN UR LOCAL DIALECT, just say incoherent words & then the holy ghost will take it up from there", (i believe thats what u were told too)
These are exactly d words he was told b4 he relunctantly spoke d rubbish & passed d class, And this same 5hit is what is been done in all d pentecostal churches who claim they speak in tongues
Do u see how spurious todays speakin tongues is!!!, does somebody need a mumu class to speak in tongues?is that how d holy spirit worksis that hw d apostles spoke in tongues!!!did they organise classes to teach people hw to speak in tonguesinfact shuld some1 be taught hw to speak in tongues
If d apostles spoke in tongues just like the 1's we see today i wonder how cornelius & all d gentiles would have embraced christ,
We dont have to speak in tongues today as a sign of d holy spirit in us, LOVE is what will identify true christianity & also d rest of d fruits of d holy spirit recorded in galatians 5:22&23,

i told u to read 1 corinthians 13:8-13
What will remain when d gift of speakin in tongues has faded away is FAITH,HOPE & LOVE, but the greatest is LOVE, shikena!!!,

@wesley, the apostles spoke in known & clear languages understood by people,
Didnt u read acts i quoted? How do u think peter was able to speak to a gentile like cornelius who didnt understand d hebrew languaged holy spirit enabled them to preach(speak in tongues) to deliver Gods message,
They upbuilt there audiences with d tongues they spoke,
Today noting is accomplished wit d tongues people speak,
All my immoral cousins speak in tongues,our governors who steal also speak in tongues,
Is that how Gods spirit works??
Those powers are so faded & u urself can testify to that, even when u speak in tongues u know its false, u urself know u just recite mixed up unknown words, i'v heard all d speaking in tongues in all d churches today & its all rubbish,
my cousin who attends winners told me how he had to fake it just to pass a holy ghost class b4 baptizin in d church,because d requirement for baptism was to speak in tongues 1st, He had to just say rubbish mixed words , and the olodo(sorry to say) who was officiating d holy ghost class marked him good & he qualified for baptism,
U see how useless this whole acclaimed speakin in tongues has becomeeven ashawo's speak in tongues,
All d tongues people claim to speak today is of no benefit to anybody,
1 corinthians 13:6-9 tells u those powers d apostles had @ 1st to declare d goodnews in different tongues are all faded, and faded they are!!!

@frosbel, how often do u use d name Yahwehanswer sincerely

@judek2, i understand d scriptures perfectly,
It might surprise u to know that just as Jesus and his Father are one so also we are one with Jesus,
Did u know that
Let me tell u what oneness is,
Open ur precious bible & other translations to john chapter 17:20-23
20 I pray not only for these but also for those who through their teaching will come to believe in me.
21 May they all be one, just as, Father, you are in me and I am in you, so that they also may be in us, so thatthe world may believe it was you who sent me.
22 I have given them the glory you gave to me, that they may be one as we are one.
23 With me in them and you in me, may they be so perfected in unity that the world will recognise that it was you who sent me and that you have loved them as you have loved me

we are to be one Just as Jesus & d Father are 1 and also that Yahweh & Jesus mayb in us & we in them,
I hope the oneness Jesus later explained here does nt include us in the triology dogma, ??,
Just as d priests in bible times conveyed d worship of d isrealites to Yahweh so also does d perfect high priest(Jesus) convey our worship to his Father & our Father,
My problem is u barely mention that name Yahweh or pray to Yahweh but u rather pray & render worship belonging to Yahweh to Jesus instead of praying through him(Jesus) to get to Yahweh,
Jesus even taught us how to worship but many christians ignore it, its nt good,
And mind u i'm a 100% christian, i know how to direct my worship thats all, i understand Jesus's role in d outworking of his Fathers will, we are nw been reconciled to Yahweh thru his son Jesus, Jesus is now our high priest & mediator to Yahweh, so i understand what i'm doing, if there's any1 who follow follow's Jesus for back i'm 1 of those, and i'm exactly followin Jesus order on how & who we shuld worship, finish!!!

@wesley, please just critically read that 1corinthians 14 verses 6 to 10,
Just relax & rili read wat paul says,

6. Now suppose, brothers, I come to you and speak intongues, what good shall I do you if my speaking provides no revelation or knowledge or prophecy or instruction?

7. It is the same with an inanimate musical instrument.If it does not make any distinction between notes, how can one recognise what is being played on flute or lyre?

8. If the trumpet sounds a call which is unrecognisable, who is going to get ready for the attack?

9. It is the same with you: if you do not use your tongue to produce speech that can be readily understood, how can anyone know what you are saying? You will be talking to the air.

10. However many the languages used in the world, allof them use sound;

11. but if I do not understand the meaning of the sound, I am a barbarian to the person who is speaking, and the speaker is a barbarian to me.

12. So with you, as you are eager to have spiritual powers, aim to be rich in those which build up the community,
Todays speaking in tongues does nt build up,rather it adds to d nuisance in the society,
Like i said earlier there is no need to speak in tongues anymore, christianity has gone world wide in more than 500 languages, we all have d bible in our various languages so dat spirit of speakin in tongues isnt needed anymore, apostle said all those gifts will pass away but LOVE wil remain,
Today u see a world were people are egocentric,tribalistic,nationalistic,money loving and still say they speak in tongues,
Many today barely exhibit the fruitage of the spirit recorded in galatians 5:22-23 but claim to speak in tongues,
Even our thief thief politicians speak in tongues, lol, its madness,
Self sacrificing LOVE is what will mark 1 who has d holy spirit not speaking in tongues in this lastdays,, 1corinthians 13:8-13

wesley80:
^^^ nothing could be further from the truth. You should draw a distinction between "gift of the spirit" and "fruit of the spirit". Speaking in tongues is a FRUIT of the spirit therefor compulsory for Christians, anything less is choosing to live less than you've been called to.
In 1st Corinth 14 vs 15 Paul says "for i pray in an unknown tongue my spirit prayeth but my understanding is unfruitful" therefor understand that the interpretation of tongues is a gift of the spirit which he enjoins us to pray to have in verse 13 so we can "Exhort" the church if we choose to speak in tongues b4 it. For emphasis in verse 18 he says " I thank my God I speak in tongues more than ye all" Understand he does this when he prays alone and isn't exhorting anyone.
Further in Jude 1 vs 20 Paul urges brethren "but ye beloved, building up yourself on your most holy faith, praying in the holy Ghost." now how will a Christian that can't speak in tongues build on his most holy faith? Its good to pray in your understanding, but it is much greater to pray in the spirit.

So u think when d apostles spoke in tongues they spoke in the jagoons people speak today, i dey laugh ooo,
d apostles accomplished a lot with speaking in tongues(well known existing languages understood by people), They preached to d whole world @ there time with d help of the spirit by speakin in tongues(different languages)
And paul could speak in more tongues simply because he was a travelling overseer who traveled from country to country & needed to speak in d tongue of the countries he resided,
How have u or ur pastors used the speakin in tongues gift(as u claim u have it) in preaching to people of other nations??have u ever benefited ur next door neighbour thru ur speakin in tongues, NOOOOOO is d answer!!!, just saying gibberish to claim speakin in tongues is not what d apostles did, they spoke in clear languages other than d hebrew tongue they grew up with, they spoke in about more than 8 different tongues on d day of pentecost(languages they never dreamt of speakn)
, read acts 2:7-10, And many became believers by hearing the goodnews in there own language on that day of pentecost,
What has todays speakin in (tongues)gibberish accomplished other than noise & unrest?
If u cant upbuild d next person wit speakin in tongues or interprete then all shuld shut d hell up & look for other ways to upbuild others instead of saying shintarabajujujujujujtatatatatatatatahuhuhyayayaya, repeatin silly unreasonable,stereotype sounds over & over again, gosh!!!, sometin is wrong wit christians today,