Thanks for feedback

Justkatty:
I must admit
I learnt something here
I had wanted to give a trial to the first question being asked, but I wasn't too sure of it so I had to pause, so our dear biologist would do justice.

Search the daily stoic pdfdrive on Google

RAGGA40:
Thank you, do u have the pdf file of the book

You're still in your feelings and as men we have to move past that, think and then do.

Being a man is not easy. We are designated to create and build while women are complaining and existing. No woman is born an angel or devil, I think men can choose to create and allow what they want from women.

That is why we are trying to understand female nature and life in general. Read books on clarity and life like The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday - it's a daily devotional

RAGGA40:
To folks misinterpreting my words,
i'm a very good guy,
but when dealing with women use your sixth sense, i still stand on my words on marble that women are the reincarnated devils of our time and period, whether she a strict christian, virgin, non-virgin, single mother or a babymama, whatever you call it. They are main satans in your family, marriage, children, they are not angels as simpanzees portray them to be.

Now, this is a better setting. Perhaps, she thought you'd be her YES man.

Calibrator:
You think I don't have sense?


I am self employed.

Na she carry her legs waka come my workplace around after 9pm yesterday come dey yarn nonsense

Be careful with these kind of conversations in work settings and ensure it doesn't affect you in any way.

These independent women are very entitled, they want the universe to bow for them because they're doing what men have been doing for several decades.

Calibrator:
I was having a casual chat with a female friend yesterday evening after work and the discussion drifted to what makes an "Independent Woman".

She said "An independent woman is a woman who works and pay her bills without external help" and I replied her that she just described what a regular average responsible human should be, then went to elaborate why I don't see the common sense in giving accolades to a female who went through the same formal education as her male counterparts simply because she decided to put the knowledge derived to use by working and paying her bills.




Las las she sha call me a misogynist and been vexing for me since

Nice one. I've stumbled on 1,2,3,9

Dabronze:
BOOKS FOR MASCULINITY & SELF-DEVELOPMENT
1. MEDITATION By Marcus Aurelius

2.MAN SEARCH FOR MEANING By Victor E. Frankl

3.OBSTACLE IS THE WAY By Ryan Holiday

4.THE PRINCE By Nicolo Machaveli

5. SO GOOD THEY CAN'T IGNORE YOU By Cal Newport

6.HOW TO MAESURE YOUR LIFE By Clayton Christensen

7. THE ONE MINUTE MANEGER By Keneth H. Blanchad

8. STOIC BY Marcus Aurelius

9.BEYOND ORDER By Jordan Peterson
10. THINKING FAST AND SLOW By Daniel Kahneman

11. SUN &STEEL By Yikio Mishima

12. THE ART OF LIVING : The Art Of Living The Classical Manual On Virtue, Happiness And Effectiveness By Epictetus.

You Are The Prize, But

...but some men twist that statement to mean the wrong things.

Being the prize is rooted in the mind and also in outcomes. An average man and a high value man can never be on the same level. Both may see themselves as the prize in their minds, but they definitely don't have the same outcomes.

So Is There No Hope For The Average Man?

Definitely not. For most of us, we have made the right step knowing we are the prize in our minds. What is left is to act it out. You can't claim to be the prize and be begging a woman for sex.

You can't claim to be the prize and be sobbing over a woman leaving you on read. I'm scolding myself as I type this but I have also learnt and improved slowly with time.


As men, we need to earn our value. You're not earning it to impress women, you're earning it because you have to and so the world can take you more seriously. I hope we all take action.

A blessed Thursday to everyone.

I know this is the case for many but it is more predominant in average men. Now, average isn't an insult - currently I do not qualify in the top 10% of men, we all strive to level up.

For some men (high value), women don't see sex as some favour. They see their time with such men as the real favour.

Not everyone gets there in truth and even those men pay the price to get to those levels. But what we can avoid is conditioning our mind to thinking that we can't get there. This is why I believe men find themselves before chasing tails (that is the ultimate game).

mirinder:
In this day and age, no sex is free. You must pay, whether by hook or by crook. Whether in cash or in kind. Whether at the moment or in future. Becos women (including your wife) believe having sex with you is doing you a favor

Important

If you know you can't convey your thoughts here without shaming, insulting, guilt tripping or a need to be right - please go to another thread.

If you can't help anyone here with advice or useful information and only comment for banter, please go to another thread.

Being a better man means you've got to have better character.

Depends on what you choose to focus on. This is a community, be sure you'd come across all kinds of people.

Are there empowering posts here? Yes. I see them from time to time and even share some myself. Choose what you focus on and also feel free to drop messages and encounters when convenient.

Qasak:
Quiet frankly this thread isn’t what I thought it would be. I thought it would be a couple of guys empowering ourselves. Dropping our knowledge and also learning as we narrate our everyday encounters with the female gender. The fact that we are in this thread aside from the unauthorized females is because we have noticed an abnormally in the female nature and have come to learn and re-empower our selves.
All this ignoring , ego chasing and power tussle is not necessary at all.

I love this zeal. But in truth, not all men can be liberated. There will always be men plugged to the system.

We can try though.

21cents:
sure bro. I've already taken points till page 28 in a dedicated 3hrs period today. will complete in a week time I hope.

after which I'll convert to PDF and share everywhere. All Nigerian men need to be liberated with TRP by force..

Red Flags You Should Watch Out For - To Brothers That Want To Get Married

Admitted. Stumbling on redpill knowledge doesn't mean you can't get married. But you should at least be aware of the cons and how best to navigate them.

From experience and observable reality, these are some of the red flags you'd want to watch out for before cuffing any woman.


1. Feminist Stance

If she is a feminist and born into our generation of woke modern women, you'd want to be careful. A ruthless feminist is triggered by submissiveness, and issues as trivial as the use of MAN in English vocabulary.


2. Single Mother

The typical single Mom that wants to get married is looking for a free card out of her instability, before considering your feelings.

You'd become a stepfather assuming the role her baby Daddy bailed out of.


3. Women That Earn More Than You

Critics and detractors will yell: So, do you want women to be poor or below men.

But they will not account for the oppression and entitlement that a higher earning women brings to marriage. If you have to lead her, you most likely got to have the upper hand financially.


4. Women That Claim Bisexual/Sapiosexual

I've realised these ones are often confused and not marriage-able. The bisexual
woman is digging her girlfriends and the sapiosexual woman claiming to be attracted to intelligence or a man's mind has a history and present that says otherwise.

It is no surprise to see these groups single in their 40s.


5. Women With Low Interest

If you have to plead and make her see reason to marry you, abort!

Such women will grow to be entitled, and often cheat when better options present because you had to negotiate desire. Desire, she never truly had.

Our sick culture is only teaching men to always make moves, but if you're always making moves and it's not being genuinely reciprocated, that's your sign - you don't need to wait till you cuff her and start filing divorce.



Summary: If you want to get married and command frame, you'd have to be well aware of female nature. Avoid women that want to be men, and be in full control

I'd update on this thread as I find them.

virginboy1:


Please recommend more redpill movies please.

Some will never change regardless and I also dislike being referenced as the worst case scenario in this thread repeatedly, because I wasn't even in my past.

The fact I came here without terrible and painful past relationships/experiential losses like some may have doesn't give me the right to rank above them because we've all made mistakes.

That should be the mentality

Martinez39s:
He subscribed to the red pill a long time ago. We were all surprised too given that he used to be one of the biggest simps on nairaland. We asked him if female nature dealt with him harshly, he said no. The good thing is, if he can change, many can.

The fact I have had to reply to these questions not once, not twice shows the mentality of a lot of people here.

He didn't address the message, and probably didn't learn anything.

SILENTandSMART2:




Haha shey my eyes dey deceive me ni......


Hahahaha

Buhahahaha


When did you become a redpiller ?

Or person dey use dis account ni

Media Detox To Help With Masculinity and Redpill

I want to share what I've been doing for some time. When you take the redpill, you realise the world is filled with a lot more lies and controlling mechanisms tailored to the naive man.

One thing I have done to unplug myself effectively is a media detox - purposefully choosing the content I consume. They fall within the following:

1. Movies/TV Shows

I started watching masculinity-themed movies and series. Sometimes movies say a lot more than words. If you're here and you watch too much RomCom, Disney, Happily Ever After or Stranger Finds Love movies, you'd slowly lose frame - there's a reason girls love those things a lot.

Instead, watch shows that portray men in their most traditional state. Fight Club, Shawshank Redemption, Mad Men, The Godfather are some good recommendations.


2. Social Media

This is in my opinion the most influential because it works very fast. A lady posts a picture, you can sight her boobs and start rationalising simping or worse you assume she's a quality lady - we've all been there but you don't have to remain there.

Uninstall Instagram, Snapchat and TikTok, if you know deep down you only use them to pleasure yourself/self-service to thirst traps - this is just as good as a woman holding you to her vagina except it's on your phone.


3. Books

Everyone of us here should have a physical or digital library of books in the manosphere, in addition to other books.

These books are unique because they'd tell you truths the people that claim to love you will never tell you. Any book that talks about harsh/observable reality like David Goggins Can't Hurt Me or Robert Greene's 48 Laws of Power works.

Remember to read with understanding and context before you start applying.


4. Music

If you check the verses of a lot of trendy songs these days, you'd find a line or more that goes against men becoming men.

A lot are too weak, extremely emotional and encourage victim mentality. Try using music as inspiration, you can even download trap beats and continue with your day.


That's a wrap. I'd share more as I progress. If we can all master these four pillars, we'd see better improvements in our mindset and overall character.

Actually, a lot of guys don't have the slightest pinch of male guidance. Many families are designed in a way that mothers are the primary agents of socialisation - which doesn't really help in grooming a man (especially in our gynocentric world).

So, boys have to unlearn a lot on their path to becoming men. This is why I am focusing on masculinity-themed content for the rest of this year.

Skepticus:


Una wey dey give "relationship and dating advice" dey really try.

The stories I know will come up from many guys who don't understand women and the dating game, might make me loose my cool and beat sense into some guys head with a 2X2 plank.

I know we all have our simping past, and I'm not trying to mock guys who simp to very annoying levels, but you just can't help wondering if some guys never had any form of male guidance on their life when you hear the ridicule and bullcrap they do with women and tolerate from them. The other day, I saw you and Martinez39s advising a brother who came up with the line "I love this girl. She told me to touch her ass, not her boobs. She allows another guy touch the two" bla bla bla i just knew the "dating advice" thing was not for me.

I can not can. If you were a younger relative of mine and told me that story, I go first smack that your head before we continue with the conversation. Lol *Just Joking*

On Transactional Sex

The guy that never pays and the guy that has no problem paying. I have watched and observed both closely.

I'd just say this. The guy that keeps paying often has more regrets. We aren't fools here, those of us here saying they have no problem dropping cash for fantasy will in secret leave with bitterness and complaint when some escort or potential lay doesn't fully reward money spent.

If you must spend, don't come here complaining and ensure you don't lose so much in the long run.


Which Sits Better With TRP

Like it or not, a man that can create his own sexual experiences without easily resorting to cash is not only more redpilled but also more masculine.

The problem with transactional sex or relationships whatsoever is that you're always negotiating desire and often will be at the mercy of a woman - should she not comply.


PS: If you're in your 20s, you'd want to focus more on your charm besides money when practising game. If you get transactional early, it might become a habit and you'd never know intimacy without checking your wallet.

You're saying what I said in a different way. Self development is for us as men and so women appreciate our value - enough to never have to simp for them.

That is perfectly fine. But when a man makes a woman the bigger picture to why he is improving, it's very easy to simp again.

DeusMagnus:
personally speaking, TRP have my life more balance. Understanding women nature helped gave my life a meaning. On the long run, let's be honest with ourselves, all the señf development is to be a better person and no other way to confirm you are a better person than when women start simping for you. Let us not use self development and act like deep down we don't want women to simp for us.

Some women aren't marriage-able. To these ones, you don't stress.

The reason why many people don't understand TRP is because they can't think for themselves. There is room for wise calibration and adjustment.

It's good to know you follow Rollo Tomassi, what has his book taught you?

Sibtygarr:

Then I can make wife from olosho and runs girls then.

Even Rollo Tomassi said himself - There are no right one(e.g soul mate), only good ones
Infact you're contradicting Rollo Tomassi

He agreed good women exist and he didn't advise to carve good women

Go read the book again. I'd revisit it to make confirmations.

But I vividly recall Rollo cancel the soulmate theory and also vividly remember him talk about moulding a woman to your frame.

Sibtygarr:

Then I can make wife from olosho and runs girls then.

Even Rollo Tomassi said himself - There are no right one(e.g soul mate), only good ones
Infact you're contradicting Rollo Tomassi

He agreed good women exist and he didn't advise to carve good women

Friendly Reminder

Gents. I want to encourage us to commit to sexual discipline daily. If at all we screw up, please pick yourself back up.

If you can't control your penis, you had better not identify with this community because you'd shame us sooner or later.

I've seen so many men fall, so many get manipulated by women even after overdosing with TRP - just because of scarcity mindset and desperation to get laid.

Throw the junk out.

- If you're a porn addict, try to dial it down. Have a more realistic sex drive, and detox from that visual cocaine.

- If you're a serial patroniser of escorts, challenge yourself to test your attraction muscles in the real world and save yourself some money.

- If you're always blown away by beautiful women, take yourself more seriously (grooming, finances, life in general) - you'd observe a greater level of confidence and have more esteem for yourself.



Please let's take this very seriously. Too many women assume every man is desperate to get laid, and that their vagina is priceless - we've got to be different.

No. Self improvement topics should be allowed as well, but the foundation of this community is female nature - so those topics should be balanced.

I'm in a group where they give days to each topic. Some days are for finance, some for game, etc. Perhaps we can have that

You see, men have always had to evaluate themselves from the standpoint of women. It's not a matter of insecurity, I think nature made it that way to encourage more independent men.

So, understanding female nature opens doors to sexual market value and after several layers will often lead to self reinvention, improvement etc. They're all linked in a way.

Martinez39s:
As far as I am concerned, all the red pill we discuss on nairaland and beyond are simply the truths on female nature and behaviour and other closely related peripherals like the inter-sexual dynamics and the situation of the dating market. There is no shame in this; that's what this thread is all about.

Those that complain that we are always talking about women instead of focusing on self-improvement and investment should find threads and sections that discuss these things.

Bless you brother

TheDarkGamer:
After reading today's posts about paying for sex, I have tried to think and rationalize the views of both parties. As usual, this is just my opinion and we are all entitled to ours.

These days, everything seems to be a spectrum and the argument of paying for sex (as long as it is on your own terms) seems to be accepted by some red pill advocates.

The red pill teaches us about the nature of women and ways to understand and override that nature and ensure that men are not getting cheated out of life as a whole. You can argue that the red pill is fundamentally focused on women or focused on improving your personal life. I believe that both exist as part of a whole. For those arguing that the red pill is primarily for self-development, think about this: If you were taught about the red pill truths primarily as a tool for improving one's self with the absence of understanding one's nature at the early stages of teaching, most will reject it and see it just as another motivational speech, etc. However, women's nature and its negative effects on us is something that we have all experienced and we can all agree on, so it makes it easier to understand the game and accept its truths. Arguing whether it is primarily for self-development or women is a waste of time as long as you understand both and apply them to your life. They both exist as part of a whole.

Secondly, paying for sex is another view that has been brought up here today. Before I go further, it's your choice to do whatever you want with the red pill knowledge that you have gained but you shouldn't let your thinking and actions stray from the red pill. As part of the knowledge gained from studying red pill truths, paying for sex has been proved to be unnecessary as long as you can understand women's nature and manipulate/control the situations with females in your favor. This means that as long as you see yourself as the prize to be won and not women, you don't need to pay for sex. It has also been advised by Rollo Tomassi to have an "abundance mindset" and "spin plates" in order not to be too tied down emotionally to women which can lead to emotional manipulation.

The red pill is not rigid and is mostly made up of contributions from males that have experienced the negative effects of the female nature and understood them. Some red pillers may advise men to constantly approach girls in their strive for sex or pleasure while others will advise that you should study a woman and her non-verbal cues/body language (which is a great indicator of her interest in you) and pick the particular woman that shows the most interest in you. This method saves time and energy and is more efficient than the first method. However, some people may prefer the first method as it helps improve confidence and gives them experience. It depends on you as a person.

Now, it has been established that men's high sexual drive and lack of control make it easy for women to manipulate. Ergo, they charge men for sex for their benefit. If you truly understand the red pill, it is imperative that you control your sex drive because it enables you to think clearly and evade manipulation. When you have control over your sex drive, you will also not need to pay for sex.

Understand that when you pay for sex, the woman benefits more than you. She enjoys the pleasure and monetary benefits while you only enjoy momentary pleasure at the risk of your cash. Material sex is also far less enjoyable than sex that is engaged in pure emotions and interest in both parties. If you have sex with a prostitute, yes you are saving time but if you have an abundance mindset and have other girls with a mutual interest in having sex, you will fare better. Now, if any of "your girls" are unavailable, this is where the self-control comes in. You just need to put it off until when that better and more enjoyable sex is more available. The risk of sexual infections gotten from paid sex is also much higher than from other girls.

Paying for sex comes with its own problems. Once you start, it's hard to stop paying for sex and you'll find ways to justify your actions. Another problem is that there is no fixed amount to be paid and whatever you do is at your discretion. You may argue that it's "peanuts" or it doesn't affect you, but those peanuts can be invested into something more valuable and worthwhile than paying for sex. When you keep paying for sex and sit down to analyze the amount of money you REMEMBER paying for sex, you'll realize how expensive it turns out to be. That money can be used for something more productive or invested. Another problem is that when you pay for sex, since there is no fixed amount to be paid correlating with the type of female/ her type of body, it's easy for the money to get inflated and manipulation to occur. You'll also not mind paying for "premium pussy" because since you believe in paying for sex, you'll want to rationalize and justify the amount of money spent on "sexy and hot LovePeddler". You'll also believe that the more you pay, the more value you get which is absolutely not true.

You can't eat your cake and have it in this situation. If you believe you are saving time and energy by paying for sex, you are simultaneously losing money by doing that.

In my opinion, true red-pilled males should not pay for sex because it can be easily abused. It is under the category of addiction due to hard drugs, gambling, masturbation, etc. Once you start and if you have that mindset, you can easily justify your actions and "overspend". Just use the Ashawo Beerparlour thread as an example. We even have some monikers from there coming here with that mentality.

All in all, it's your choice what to do with the red pill knowledge that you are imbibed with, but we should all maximize the practical use of that knowledge in our lives. If you still believe in paying for sex, then you will be left to reap/enjoy the fruits of your mindset/actions.

PS. I may get some reprisals from this post but I hope my message is conveyed.

TRP doesn't say you should not get married. Rollo Tomassi in his redpill-themed book is married and gave advice for men planning to settle down. One of which involves always maintaining a masculine frame.

If you knew enough of TRP, you would know good partners are not found but made.

Sibtygarr:

Saying women are naturally manipulative and men are not is a slap on our face. It means were born dumb, makes no sense at all at all.
Also how can you say you're a feminist(special kind of one) and support the redpill at same time? which is everything against women standing and representing anything at all.
That is a whole lot of confusion. it is best you label yourself another kinda pill and just state your own perception.

And to conclude I am still looking for a redpill to help me identify a good partner, none yet

Everyone is free to have their opinions, but in the midst of that some are borne from internal problems.

The lady I tagged got problems.

Ishilove:

Single men as well. Singles are the most opinionated when marital issues are being discussed.

Thanks for confirming my hypothesis. Single women are often the noisemakers when topics like these are raised.

Those in good homes know what they're doing and have things going fine.

CharisEleos:


I'm not even dreaming of it any more. Not with all these marital issues all over the place.

Until the men learn to love and tolerate their woman's excesses, I'll be viewing from afar.

Are you married?

dacblogger:
Mtchewww...rubbish thread.
As if your wives would want to marry you in their next lives.

Are you married?

CharisEleos:
When you marry for the wrong reasons.

Do you even know if she would want to marry you again if the hands of time were turned?

Check your own character before judging others cos for all you know, your character could be what is bringing out the domineering beast in her.

Sometimes you men push a woman beyond her limits and when she charges back at you, shes now seen as "domineering" or stubborn.

You have not finished marrying her in this one you're both in, youre already talking about another one. Impatience!.

Manage her like that. You have entered, you have entered. No going back.

I don't think older women are any different. They just got hit by the harsh reality they tried to avoid in their earlier years.

Skepticus:


Women hate SIMPs no doubt (especially the underachieving, broke types) who they consider "useless".

However, understand that older women (usually 30 and above) know the "game" and are often sensible (logical) when they give opinions on issues like this.

Even on this forum, if you observe the comments of known "older feminists" who have hit the inevitable "wall" or are "post-wall", they are often logical compared to the younger ones (often 27 and below) including the ones that have been trolling for attention on this thread in recent days, who are "out of control" with stupid, childish comments, seeking attention.

The ones I know of require subscription payments. Scribd and Audible are the two that come to mind.

Audible is in my opinion the most reliable, but it comes at a fee.

IghravweIG:
Please anybody has an idea where I get download or access audiobooks? I prefer them.

I watched a video of an OnlyFans model exposing a man with Indian descent.

Dude kept paying thousands of dollars for feet pics, and never stopped sending disturbing audio messages.

DieRich5:
bro Indian men is still ranking no1 simp in d world
Those men need se.x badly