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alBHAGDADI:
Since you've misunderstood Peter to be saying we gentiles should not obey the law, then kindly go and have hot sex with your mother and sister tonight which the law commands against. If you fail to disobey that law, then you are under the curse of the law for obeying it.

The way you people read the Bible is horrible.

Once again, the Pharisees originally rejected the idea of Gentiles being saved, but after they eventually got to terms with it, insisted that Gentile believers nust be made to obey the Laws of Moses. Below was the response of Apostle Peter:

Acts 15:10 - New International Version (NIV)

10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

Since you claim I do not understand English language, can you knidly interpret the meaning of the above response by Peter in simple terms that I can understand. I never claimed I was a biblical scholar, but at least I have read this very Chapter 15 of the Acts of the Apostles several times. Every time I ask this question to people like you, the only response I get is simply, "you need the Spirit to understand it". Or simply "you dont understatand it". Can you please explain what is difiiicult to understand here?.. Thanks.

alBHAGDADI:
I won't show you, because you claim to know it all despite not reading the bible. Ho and study the new testament cos I won't give what belongs to the child to dogs.

No offence but this is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever come across in my entire life of discussing the bible. You claim to know the bible so well and what's in the new testament but you cant quote a single verse to support your argument; you only make conjectures... All these "my pastor/my papa said to me" Christians..

I challenge you from now till next year, show me where you claim in the new testament that laws on wearing dual fabric were abolished but laws on tatoo were upheld.

alBHAGDADI:
Since you've misunderstood Peter to be saying we gentiles should not obey the law, then kindly go and have hot sex with your mother and sister tonight which the law commands against. If you fail to disobey that law, then you are under the curse of the law for obeying it.

The way you people read the Bible is horrible.

Under the new testament, fornication, adultery, incest and all other forms of immorality were roundly condemned. That is very simple knowledge even to babies. You do not need the laws of Moses to know that.

It's wonderful how we now have preachers in 2019 who underatand the mind of God more than the Apostles who walked the earth with Christ.

alBHAGDADI:
The blindfold covering your eyes dint allow you read my post towards understanding.

Those portions concerning shaving and clothing have been changed in the New Testament, but not tattoo. Ho and study

How exactly or where exactly were laws on dual fabric garments and side hair shaving changed, and how come these were changed but irrelevant things like tatoo were not changed?...

Have you got any biblical evidence to prove your above assertions?... Help me uncover the blindfold on my eyes please, and kindly do so with verifiable evidence cos it's not enough to just yell me what your pastor or your spirit said and expect me to accept ir as truth... Thanks...

alBHAGDADI:
I find it funny how people who aren't even saved are now positioning themselves as Bible teachers. They think the Bible is some novel anybody can pick up, read and understand. They don't know that it is a spiritual book meant for those with the spirit of God in them. See what Jesus said about the Bible:

John 6:63 (KJV)
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

You can't understand them unless you are born of water and of spirit which means you are born again. Till then, you are just a natural man who will always misuse the word of God or find it foolish.

1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

It's just like a Yoruba man complaining that he doesn't understand Chinese language. But a baby born to Chinese parents will understand it easily. Once you have the Holy Spirit, you will understand God's word which is Spirit and life.

Why did I go into the above details? The man in the OP believes he understands the Bible verses he quoted which speak of the law. The natural man he is sees the verses as saying the law has been done away it and has been thrown in the trash can, never to be followed or obeyed again. That's how a natural man reads the Bible.

Before I show you how a man with the Spirit of God reads the Bible, let's first of all expose the foolishness in the natural man's understanding of the verses he quoted.

According to him, the law has been thrown in the trash can because Jesus came, died and resurrected. If the law has been thrown in the garbage, kindly tell him to break the laws in Leviticus 18, which are mostly against having sex with one's close kin e.g mother, sister, father, brother, aunt etc.

Romans 4:15 (KJV)
for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Since he says the law is no more, isn't that also saying that it is not a sin to do those things? Let him go ahead and do them.

He quoted the below passage.

Galatians 3 vs 10 - 13
10 For all who rely on the works of the laware under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[e]11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[f] 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[g] 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”

Clearly, he doesn't know what the passage is saying at all. To him, the passage means if we obey the laws, we would be cursed.

One thing I would want you all to know is that the passage is talking about those relying on the works of the law as a means of eternal salvation. Paul is clearly saying that if you are depending on your ability to obey the law as a means of making heaven, then you are cursed. You are cursed because you can never continue in the entire laws without breaking one. You can't at all. See what Paul said:

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

As seen above, Paul revealed that even if you keep the whole law and failed at just one, you will become guilty of even the ones you succeeded at. That is the curse of the law Paul was talking about. That's why he made it clear that depending on the law as a means to salvation is like cursing yourself to eternal damnation.

So what's the way to avoid depending on the law? The way is Jesus Christ who is the Way the Truth and the Life. You have to have faith in him to be saved. That way, there won't be any need to depend on the works of the law. As seen below, Paul said we are saved by Grace through faith, not by our ability to do the works of the law.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.


So far so good, we have seen that we Christians are to obey the laws of God unless in cases where they've been specifically changed in the New Testament e.g dietary laws washing, worship, animal sacrifice etc. The anti-tithing can't show where the law on tithing has been specifically changed in the New Testament.

We obey the laws to live right on Earth. The laws have made us realise that it is sinful to sleep with one's next of kin, have tattoos, be homosexual etc.

But when it comes to salvation, we don't depend on the law because Jesus has come to save us from the curse of the law which hits us when we fail one despite passing the rest.

Find a Once Saved Always Saved Church today for more knowledge.

All these preachers that keep mixing Chriastianity with Judaism, how exactly do you guys read the bible and still claim not to understand some simple things?

What has having tatoos got to do with anything in this day and age? The same chapter where it is written in Leviticus that you shouldn't put any ink on your body, that same chapter also instructs men not to ever shave the hair by the side of their face or wear any garment made of more than one type of fabric. But the way some preachers today condemn those with tatoos but intentionally / unintentionally ignore the other latter commands is quite confusing.

The anti-tithing can't show where the law on tithing has been specifically changed in the New Testament.

Abraham was not under the Law, he tithed once (no record in the bible shows that it was repeated) and the most important thing is that he tithed 'willingly' (it was never a mandatory command for his to tithe).

Likewise Jacob, he tithed willingly as a personal sacrifice to God. Keypoint is that he did it willingly, he was never under any command to do so.

The only place where tithing was made mandatory in the bible was within the Laws of Moses. I understand your current argument is that even Christians in 2019 are still under the laws of Moses?... How then do you explain this verse in the book of Acts where Peter condemned people preaching this very gospel you are currently preaching?

Acts 15:10 - New International Version (NIV)

10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

The above verse were the words of Apostle Peter condemning the elders of the Church for insisting that if salvation must be preached to the Gentile believers, then the Laws of Moses must also be extended to Gentiles. Peter described the Laws of Moses as a burden which they (Jews) were not even able to keep.

My dear brother, it's never too late to learn, unlearn and re-learn. That's what 21st century literacy is truly about; accepting that what one has always known and believed might not be correct afterall.

Ruddyman:
We should fight to make our institutions more transparent and assertive in carrying out their duties ....that's my take on things like this

The people with the constitutional responsibility to correct anomalies like this at all levels of government are the number 1 people who are raping the system. You say we should "fight to make institutions more transparent", how exactly do you propose we fight that fight without first talking about the NASS which is the global HQ of the mess?

Ruddyman:
i HAVE NO ISSUES with this.....BUT lets start from State Exco's, The Presidency and our LGA'S....too much focus on what NASS gets doesn't make sense to me....they don't have near absolute control over our finances like the executives DO

The members og NASS receive 10x more than those you mentioned. It only makes sense that if anything must be done, the NASS is really where the problem lies.

Nigeria is definitely not ready for a democracy, that explains why madness like this can be perpetrated without remorse since 1999.

Osagyefo98:
Bukola saraki did a 4 year wonderful job to dismantle the evil machinations of buhari and osibanjo.

Nwafor orizu did wonderfully well
Mark did well...

Chuba Okadigbo all did well.


Nnamani is a thief like Ekweremmadu.

What exactly were the bad or anti-Nigeria policies of Buhari that Saraki stood against or stopped as senate president? .. Any specific examples?

In the typical Nigerian context, it appears that when a senate president quarrels or disagrees with a president we dont like, then he's automatically assumed to be a good senate president. Even if all he did was increasing the immoral budget of the NASS and/or reducing budgeted funds for important projects and applying same funds to irrelevant constituency projects, such a senate president will be termed 'good' because what he did was against the will of the presidency.

In my opinion, besides Nnamani who stopped OBJ's third term, all other senate presidents Nigeria has produced are useless self-serving rogues. I dont know about Nwafor Orizu though cos I wasnt born in his time.

Omo Agege my man...

SmartMen:
no... This news only made headline for a reason... It might even be fake lol. U don't know APC walahi. The death of that party will be the biggest miracle for Nigeria.

And what about the death of PDP?.... Remember, the death of APC will only mean that all APC politicians will crossover to whochever new party takes over.

SmartMen:
To justify removal of AIT.... Na people wey no understand APC go believe this nonesense

Are you suggesting SKY on the UK removed NTA because NBC in Nigeria suspended AIT? Wetin concern Sky and Nigeria?

It's actuallly a blessing that NTA was removed from Sky; the picture and spund quality of NTA's broadcast has always been a cringe worthy source of embarrassment. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Haha... a senate with a combo of Dino & Rochas! This will be an interesting senate. Sad that Obahiagbon didnt make it too.

Jail term?... hmmm

YorubaWarrior:
Abeg, who come write article wey resemble poem & Hymnal song so?

I swear, it almost seemed like I was reading the same thing over and over again; or maybe I actually was? The article be like wizkid song where you have to repeat the chorus 30 times.

If PMB can raise the hands of Gandollar, what else is expected in this case which is a rather flimsy one.

Meanwhile this Gbaja case made it obvious that so many Nigerians do not know the meaning of the word 'Conviction'

Nigerians! Anything that happens in a plane is described as "almost crashed". In aviation historyxl, turbulence isnt known to crash planes at all, they can make a flight unpleasant, but doesnt bring any plane down.

Just the other day, a pilot missed the right touchdown point at MMIA and had to return to the air for another landing attempt which turned out successful. Screaming headlines appeared everywhere - OBJ escapes death in plane crash!!! Haba!

misterme:
No, it's due to the notoriety of Rochas

To you it is notoriety, to many others, it is popularity.

Juliet11111:
I’ve noticed that there are nothing less than 9 topics per day of The Governor of Imo state on this and other websites and news outlets in Nigeria. Why so much focus on him? Why are people so inte Interested in knowing about his performance?

It's simply due to the popularity/hatred for Rochas

Is it only Rochas and Ihedioha that even exchanged power?... How come these duo will not let the news rest?

Okay let the hatred start pouring innnnn !

But seriously out of curiosity, is this man the only governor or ex governor in Nigeria?... Why can't a day pass without people talking about him or posting one story or the other on him?

timota:
We are talking about criticizing here,even in the bible when leaders were nor doing well they were being criticized talk less of a leader that is backing Fulani herdmen to kill Christians by giving them 100 billion and radio station

Nothing wrong with criticising, but there's a difference between criticising and attacking with outright insults; I believe the preacher was referring to the latter. And to add to that, the preacher was speaking from the religious perspective; democratically, there's no law stopping anyone from insulting any leader as much as they like if it makes them feel better.

poseidon12:
Keep quiet, zombie. Has your President become a Saint that he should not be criticized? If you don't want him criticized, you should ask him to resign.

Zombie kill u there... Direct your anger to God. No be me write bible.

OndoRaph:
[i][/i]what if the boss isn't wise?

Well, if the boss isnt wise, then it's too bad. Nothing can be more inconvenient than this situation. But he just has to still find a way to distance himself from the boss' house and the boss' wife.

etrange:
Dude, he's his boss and not his friend. That chat above is far more friendly than a boss-employee relationship can accommodate. Let's be realistic. How about him staying neutral? Why give out the woman when he wouldn't want to give out the man who's actually the culprit here? OP should stay out of their family affairs, simple.

I've been in this kind of situation before, or rather, I am still in this kind of situation, although with a friend and not a boss. In this kind of matter, the best way to handle it and remain neutral is to distance himself from his boss and the wife, and to achieve this easily, he needs to put the boss in the loop somehow by letting him know what's going down. If the boss is wise, he'll know he has to support the guy's decision to distance himself.

frankyychiji:
Today you are Igbo and tomorrow you are from SS... continue

Oga, in the last 11 years that I've been active on this forum, Ive never in my life stated I am from anywhere else; and I wouldnt do that today over the nudgings of some silly tribalists whose brains cant reason beyond tribe in every single thing they do or say. If you're confusing me with someone else, that's your cup of tea.

ledamaster:
as usual another yoruba trying to justofy nonsense. So prophets in the Bible didnt speak against bad leaders? Pls tell us which christian countries that are doing very well and developing that they dont insult or critisize? Please get out of here with your stvpid noise.

Another slow brained tribalist vomits his nonsense. Who is a yoruba to you and what has this got to do with tribe?

Like I said before, nobody stops anybody from insulting anybody. But there's a difference between criticism and outright insult. The preacher simply quoted what's written in the bible. If what he said angers you so much, direct your anger to the God. And quit your foolish tribal nonsense; I'm an Igbo man.

jcross19:
what kumuyi is talking about is that we should not rebuke the government or the leader but keep quiet under the authorities that's what he was saying and Mr kumuyi have never condemned the killing of Fulani's for once. intact Mr kumuyi should keep quiet when they were calling Jonathan names where was he? is a shame to kumuyi.

How can you not rebuke government? Where in the bible is that written and where did Kumuyi ask you not to criticise govt?

timota:
when Good luck Jonathan was being insulted where was the preacher

Nobody is asking or stopping you from insulting leaders as you like. The preacher simply just told you what's in the bible; if you feel bad about it, direct this your question to God.

jcross19:
ahahaha see this one !!!! how long have you read your Bible if you are even a Christian? see let me Nathan rebuked David, Samuel rebuked Saul, Elijah rebuked and condemned Ahab , even john the Baptist condemned herod ! now I have never see kumuyi condemning the Fulani's killing in the country why hmmm it seems has lost the respect I have for him because he has lost his Bible memories.

I may not be the best bible scholar, but from the little I know, Nathan never insulted or used abusive words onDavid, neither did Samuel use filthy words on Saul, nor Elijah on Ahab. There's a clear difference between criticising a leader and outrightly abusing the person. You should go and read your bible again.

What exactly is Shehu all about?... athe man seems to loose it sometimes. Did Kumuyi threaten to arrest anybody for insulting leaders?

Of course anybody has the right to criticise or even insult anyone they wish to insult but whilst that is okay in the law, does it necessarily mean it is okay in the sight of God?... Last time I checked, Kumuyi was speaking from the religious perspective.