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Adekdammy:
The worst punishment for forgery is jail term or option of fine and not resignation .

For a clearance cert?... You think we're talking about contract papers for huge sums here?.... Even in developed climes, the worst that even happens to a person who deliberately uses a fake university degree is to be disgraced out of office. Here we talking of nysy clearance?... you even have to start by proving she did it intentionally.

LordAdam:
Wetin concern me concern who dem appoint?

I vote for Buhari? As far as I'm concerned, the man can do whatever he likes. We warned, you guys didn't listen. We said Adeosun would be a disastrous wannabe, you guys said she'd do better than NOI. Amina Mohammed was snapped up by the UN even after serving under OBJ, Yar'Adua, and Jonathan (the so-called 3 demons of corruption). In fact, she got her first appointment at the UN after her time ended in GEJ's government. You guys think propaganda is all it takes to deliver good governance. Look how the cookie crumbled.

You guys said Buhari and Adeosun would change Nigeria. We have seen the change. There was nothing wrong in being part of the economic team whose incompetence contributed to the loss of 15m jobs when they promised they'd add 3m net jobs annually. Shey you see your life?

Next you'll tell me there's nothing wrong in Buhari's performance as President. Joker!

-Lord

Oga, there's nothing wrong with Kemis performance; quit hating on her as if she snatched your lollipop. One person doesnt determine the direction of an entire economy. You cant blame her for the recession in Nigeria, except you wanted her to perform miracles. She was appointed during the recession.

She isn't the one who killed all the refineries in Nigeria and ensured Nigeria imports it's entire 1.2 billion litres of petrol monthly. She wasnt the one who made Nigeria an import crazy nation to the point of importing palm oil, toothpick, handkerchief etc... She wasnt the one who didnt diversify Nigeria's economy for decades, she wasnt the one who ensured that Nigeria, a country of 180 million people depended on only one volatile unpredictable commodity for all its income, and neither is she the one who brought down oil prices and crippled Nigeria's economy.

She was appointed at a time when Nigeria's economy was already in the abyss with oil prices rock bottom at $30; within 2 months of her appointment, Nigeria's oil production was down to less than a million barrels. None of these was her fault so I wonder why you keep blaming her for not performing magic or comparing her with people who were in office when there was robust harvest. Even when oil prices were still up to $70, the world class NOI was already fidgeting, asking Nigerians to prepare for doom, borrowing to pay salaries, running down the reserves to save the Naira which was already crashing, owing contractors across the nation, owing fuel importers etc. And of course Nigerias gdp raye was already nosediving. Yet you think a younger Kemi who was brought in when Nigeria was already in a pit is an idiot?... You're simply a bitter hater.

In summary, kemi got into the office when Nigeria's income was down by over 80% but somehow, she was able to manage things, prevent total collapse, and oversaw the rebound from that abyss. She did well and besides hating economic illiterates, I am yet to see any seasoned economist within or outside Nigeria thay has labelled her incompetent.

Adekdammy:
Twisting facts to suit your favourite, you won't type these if another party were to be in govt.

She knew what she had, hence her doing the biddings of the legislooters

But like I said, she's already received the worst possible punishment.

LordAdam:
@obailala, make I taunt you again!

Comparing butterfly to bird. Una no c ppl like Adesina to appoint, na riff-raff like Adeosun.



-Lord

Make I tell u again, there was nothing wrong with Kemi's performance as finance minister. The work of finance minister isn't to perform money doubling magic.

Okay as dem done appoint another mallam to the post, hope we're all happy now?

seborrhic:
Story.
The only reason Kemi resigned is because she I'd a British citizen too and the forgery would have had an adverse effect on her when she travels back to Britain.It has nothing to do with this goverment.
She knows and must have been adviced that this government would last at most another 4years,of which she isn't sure of being in the cabinet again,but her long term future in the UK and her family could be jeopardized if she doesn't admit to the forgery, only that she should blame it on her naivety.
Please when will she be charged to court?

She would have absolutely no issue in the UK. Even here in Nigeria, the worst that can happen to her is what just happened; i.e. giving up her appointment.

People saying she should be charged to court, how exactly can it be proven that she intentionally used a fake nysc clearance?... Under the circumstances, the worst punishment for the offence is what has already happened.

Wow! This is massive and commendable. Abeg when are they commencing the London route?... And I hope they get a space at Heathrow.

Shayetet13:
"As at May 2015, Nigeria's GDP growth rate had already dropped to 2% (from its average 6-7%); at the rate it As at May 2015, Nigeria's GDP growth rate had already dropped to 2% (from its average 6-7%); at the rate it was dropping, getting to zero (recession) was inevitable especially given that the primary factor causing the drop (low oil price and meagre reserves) was getting much worse. was dropping, getting to zero (recession) was inevitable especially given that the primary factor causing the drop (low oil price and meagre reserves) was getting much worse."
provide a reference to the above unfounded statement.

Like I said before, oil prices began to crash from mid-2014. At the time, Nigeria's GDP was between 6-7%. At the time of handover in 2015, GDP growth rate had nosedived to 2.35% and with the forces which caused that still being very active and even worsening (oil price drop), hitting zero was inevitable... Of course many Nigerian youths don't know this, all they know is PDP vs APC rants and some textbook fairy tales from magician economic analysts.
2Q 2014, Nigeria's GDP growth rate was 6.54%,
3Q 2014, Nigeria's GDP growth rate was 6.23%
4Q 2014, Nigeria's GDP growth rate was 5.94%
1Q 2015, Nigeria's GDP growth rate was 3.96%
2Q 2015, Nigeria's GDP growth rate was 2.35%

www.nairaland.com/attachments/5411323_gdp_gifa9b921e6218c89d27c14de9cfcfe7d21
https://tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/gdp-growth-annual

Because you could not find Angola in recession anywhere, you called it pointless and ignorance. Forgetting that despite the fact that the oil drop hit countries hard, but only Nigeria slipped into recession. Why? The decision to delay devaluing Nigeria's currency meant many businesses struggled to get foreign currency to pay for imports, which had a cooling effect on the entire economy. The Buhari's govt latter after serious pressure allowed the naira to float, which should have been done much earlier.

The reason I called it pointless and ignorant was because the Angola you mentioned was a very ridiculous and laughable example which exposed your ignorance. Since the oil price slump, Angola's economy hit the rocks, they are still yet to recover from the recession even in 2018. But of all nations, it was Angola you chose to mention as example?... It's sad that you have access to internet data but can't do simple research with google, sad!
https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/angola-gdp-growth-annual.png?s=angolagdpyoy&v=201808291220x&d1=20140414&d2=20180914&type=column

And point of correction, Algeria never used $100bn to fight recession, i dont know where you get this your road side economics. Algeria spent so much cos of high import bills.

The primary cause of Nigeria's recession was the scarcity of forex due to the low inflow from oil sales during the oil price drop, coupled with a lack of adequate forex savings in our reserves to meet Nigeria's massive import . When there's such a reduction in forex inflows, countries fall back to their foreign reserves to meet up with their forex needs to prevent the sort of crisis Nigeria faced between 2015 and 2017. Here's a brief excerpt from a reuters report on Algeria's reserves:

"Reserves were $97.3 billion in December 2017, down from $114.1 billion the previous year, $144.1 billion in 2015 and $178 billion in 2014, when crude oil prices started falling, until partly recovering this year."
https://www.reuters.com/article/algeria-reserves/algerias-forex-reserves-fell-by-73-billion-in-jan-may-pm-idUSL8N1TP0M8

Like I said before, Algeria's reserve dropped from about $194billion (January 2014) to about $97billion in December 2017; a reduction of almost $100billion to ensure the economy wasn't strangled by the kind of forex crisis which Nigeria faced. Here's a little chart of the foreign reserves for Algeria.
https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/algeria-foreign-exchange-reserves.png?s=algeriaforexcres&v=201804091419x&d1=20080101&d2=20181231&type=column

[s]Thats on record. Nigeria had sufficient internal elements to prevent it from slipping into recession only if the govt did the right things when the oil crisis hit. It is well known that countries have economic crisis, even the united states of recent times, but they hardly slip into recession. So blaming Nigeria's recession of the previous government that passed out several months before recession hit is dumb. Cos those months after the oil crisis were more than enough to put solid policies that will revive the economy of any nation talkless of a large economy such as ours[/s]

If you are interested and if you're ready to pay me for more of my time, I can show you a breakdown of how Saudi Arabia spent about $200billion within the same period to stabilize their economy and prevent the economic crisis/recession. Every single country that's dependent on purely oil for their forex went through some form of crisis; only countries with substantial reserves survived it. Even Nigeria attempted to fight it between 2014 August and March 2015 with almost $10 billion take from the reserves; but with our reserves dropping to a dangerously low level (below $30billion for an import thirsty nation of 180million mouths) and with no hope of oil prices climbing any time soon, we couldn't plough further into reserves, and therefore forex hoarding hit the streets and destroyed everything. The previous govt was just lucky to bailout when things were about to get really nasty.

Education is key, and it doesn't end in the classroom. With the internet data you have, you really don't have an excuse for being unable to conduct a little research before coming online to label people liars whilst exposing yourself.

LordAdam:
@obailala, you see your life?

See the korofo wen mk u no 1 let me hear word. Resigned for forging NYSC certificate. This is the thing that's better than NOI. It's her mate that is the current UN DSG. Continue supporting incompetent wannabes, your cup go full...

-Lord

I never said Kemi is better than NOI; the latter is obviously more experienced. But the criticism and blasting Kemi has received over performance is nonsense. It makes no sense comparing the performances of 2 finance ministers when one oversaw plenty whilst the other reigned during a time of drought; it's an unfair and imbalanced comparison and such can only be done by inconsiderate trolls.

Another factor you have to also look at is the boss of the minister. The same NOI who performed wonderfully well under OBJ returned under GEJ and ruined her profile; of course many are too myopic to have noted that.

2 days ago a thread was opened making one of those thoughtless comparisons bothering on how NOI cleared Nigeria's debts down to $3bn and how Kemi came in and pushed our debts to over $70bn. Of course majority of those commenting on the thread were too myopic (or should I say too dumb) to just ask the vital questions. The question that should have been asked was, the NOI who was hailed for her debt reduction feat under OBJ, to what level did she grow Nigeria's debt profile between 2010 and 2015, a time when Nigeria earned unprecedented income?... The narrative on that thread made it seem like Kemi grew the debt from 0 to over $70bn.

There is nothing unusual about people borrowing to survive during times of income drought. Between 2010 and 2015, Nigeria earned almost ~$400bn from oil sales but between 2015 to early 2018, Nigeria earned less than $100bn; in both periods, Nigeria borrowed massively. Does much need to be said about this?

This dude was a real dumbass. After winning his case in court, was it even necessary coming out in public to spew trash?... Especially to the point of lying against and calling out the names of people who knew the truth? .. what sort of pathological stupidity makes one to do that?

Now the idiot has just give the authorities of CU the right to invade the privacy of real innocent students.

This one weak me I swear... This aboki is just irredeemable

Just 10 million?

wirinet:
Don't mind wailers (pdp and it's allies), if Okonjo-Iweala and Jonathan were still in charge of the economy when crude crashed to $30, the recession we faced under Buhari would have been child's play. We would have been worse than Venezuela.

Wailers should tell us, which oil exporting country that was not adversely affected by the oil crash.

Its really sad that people still come up with the senseless argument suggesting that the immediate past government was any good in terms of financial responsibility.

Under the last five years of PDP, Nigeria made almost $400bn from oil sales but still ended up borrowing massively and even running down the country's reserves from about $45bn to $28.6bn. Under the present government, Nigeria has made less than $100bn from oil sales but reserves have been built up marginally to about $47.

It's acknowledged that the debt stock is pretty high and disturbing, but given the above scenarios, only a capital buffoon would think the last govt was better than the current in terms of debts accrued.

I wouldn't even want to talk of the ignoramuses who keep coming up with the silly argument that Nigeria was economically robust prior to handover. With Nigeria's GDP growth rate nosediving from over 6% to 2% in the periods prior to handover (due to oil price drop), only illiterates would argue that the current govt ALONE was responsible for the rate hitting the zero mark even when it was obvious that the uncontrollable economic factor which led to the crash (i.e. oil price drop) kept getting worse.

modik:
So three[3] years after, where are we now?

Those who rescued Nigeria from PDP's perceived "Mismanagement and looting " can we safely conclud they are now more skilled in mismanagement and looting, hence impoverishing Nigeria the more?

Sad!

Mr A borrows during a period of plenty. Mr B borrows during a period of drought. Only an unwise person attempts to compare both scenarios.

Under the last five years of PDP, Nigeria made almost $400bn from oil sales but still ended up borrowing massively and even running down the country's reserves from over $40bn to $28.6bn at the time of handover. Currently under the present government, Nigeria has made less than $100bn from oil sales but reserves have been built up marginally to about $47.

Any sympathiser of the last government who sees this $400bn vs $100 comparison but still thinks it makes sense to mock the current govt and then praise the last govt over debt issues must really need help.

Shayetet13:
Your earlier statistic is crap and unfounded. Show me a link to such unfounded statistics. However, it was true that the oil price was going down and then i ask, and so what? Was Nigeria the only country that its oil price was going down? Why didnt Angola go into recession? Why didnt algeria go into recession? Since they too were dependent on oil

Unfounded?... Can you kindly point out the exact sentences you want me to provide reference for?... I'll be glad to provide references for every single word I typed above cos I didnt type rubbish.

By the way, your references to Algeria and Angola not falling into recession are very watery and pointless comparisons. Different countries have different buffer measures against economic shocks such as the loss of value of their main trade commodity. A country like Saudi Arabia for instance with 1-sixth of Nigeria's population had 25 times more forex ($750bn) stored in their reserves for eventualities like a drop in oil prices. Similarly, Algeria with just over 1-fifth of Nigeria's population had about $195bn in forex reserves prior to the oil price drop. As at 2016 ending, Algeria's reserves had dropped to less than $100bn; that is to say it cost the Algerian central bank about $100bn in reserves to prevent a recession.
https://tradingeconomics.com/algeria/foreign-exchange-reserves

Your country has over 180 million mouths which are fed only by oil. By mid 2014 when oil prices crashed, how much did your expert leaders have in reserves to counter the impending recession?.... Oh sorry I forgot, Buhari should have manufactured forex to prevent recession...

By the way, your comparison with Angola as one of the countries not affected by oil price plunge is obviously out of ignorance, my apologies.

Shayetet13:
What was her performance under GEJ? Did she lead Nigeria to recession? Oh, i remember, Nigeria became the largest African economy during GEJ

Yes she did; Nigeria was already on the pathway to recession by the time she and GeJ bailed out of the sinking ship in 2015, only for the new captain to come in and was punished with 100% of the blame.

As at May 2015, Nigeria's GDP growth rate had already dropped to 2% (from its average 6-7%); at the rate it was dropping, getting to zero (recession) was inevitable especially given that the primary factor causing the drop (low oil price and meagre reserves) was getting much worse. Also, Nigeria's forex reserve was dropping rapidly (it dropped from ~$40bn to $29bn within 7 months), exchange rate had also dropped from N160/$ to N220 just in early 2015, virtually nothing was allocated for capital expenditure in the 2015 budget (e.g. the Works ministry got less than N20bn for the whole country in 2015), the government was so badly short of cash that over $2bn had to be borrowed in Feb 2015 for things like salaries, fuel importers were owed subsidies running over $2bn in the last 8 months prior to handover, etc etc.

All of the above happened when oil even still sold for over $60. But we all know how oil prices plunged further to less than $30 and how production volumes dropped by over 60% after the new govt took over. But still we have people who think and argue that all was rosy when NOI and GEJ handed over... Wouldn't even know whether to call this ignorance or just.

I see a lot of wailers foaming in the mouth over this report.

NOI/OBJ reduced Nigeria's external debt to $3bn and even saved over $60bn for Nigeria in forex; that was very commendable.

But a simple question for the the numerous clowns blasting Kemi on this thread; during the 5 year period between 2010 and 2015 when Nigeria made unprecedented high income from oil to the tune of almost $400bn, how much debt did NOI/GEJ incur for Nigeria?... What was Nigeria's total debt stock as at May 29th 2015?.....

No need to even talk of the forex reserve that was depleted to less than $30bn even during the years of plenty, or the fact that Nigeria under GEJ/NOI borrowed over $2bn in February 2015 to offset recurrent bills including salaries. Someone also forgot the over $2.5bn (over N500bn) in subsidies owed to fuel importers which had to be offset by the new govt.

HigherEd:
Dr Oludayo isn't just any lecturer, he is the Registrar.
Women likes him and he also likes women... As long as he isn't forcing anyone, i don't think it's much of a deal.

As I understand, the only reason this chat was released or why this is even news is because this very school actually expels students when they find such harmless adult to adult chats in the private facebook or whatsapp messages of their students.

I hear a student who is suspected could be asked to surrender the user details and passwords of their private social media accounts for the school authority to interrogate if they've engaged in 'inappropriate' communications or acts. Once caught, the student faces disciplinary actions and can be expelled. It's even more intetesting when you know that this very man has expelled several persons for the very act he's involved in.

Can Ambooo really be removed?... Too many jokers around.

Everyday politicians just pull out these massive crowds from their homes, even in the middle of the week?

There's really a severe unemployment crisis in Akwa Ibom state.

marvinsync:
first of all u have no proof that the miscreants are directly related to ipob , this is igboland , some youths make take it upon themselves to enforce the order that they strongly believe in . nothing to do with ipob. cause like u said they existed b4 ipob


secondly I just gave u paragraphs where the he police said they would put on a "show of force" to warn ipob members and that they'll "stop"(?) the order

they are clearly attacking and targeting ipob and their members and yes I know they aren't gonna arrest people in their homes ( of course)

When I say they existed b4 ipob, do you need special tutoring to understand that I referred to Massob?... or arent you aware that massob existed b4 ipob?

Why do I even bother responding to these kind of directionless emotional arguments?.... Abeg sorry! My bad!... The youths and street urchins who rampage about to enforce IPOB orders are OPC members, not ipob. Also, the police is intemding to go and arrest individuals who chose to sit peacefully in their houses. We will not take it!!!!

Okay Bye!

marvinsync:
guy u just said those miscreants were there b4 ipob . miscreants are miscreants

they cause trouble for reasons best known to them . ipob are not in any provable way related to them


and the Nigerian police said they were gonna arrest people breaking the law??

wtf? of course ur gonna arrest people breaking the law , it's ur job for Christ's sake why'd they need to announce that unless they weren't just announcing that.

and did u miss the part in the third paragraph where it said
" Galadanchi urged the residents to disregard the order and added that police would not allow such order to stand in the state."

or the part where they also said

"The Police commissioner said security agencies would begin “a show of force” in the state on Tuesday to send a warning signal to the IPOB members.
“We are ready to STOP the IPOB order; WE WILL NOT TOLERATE IT and I urged members of the public to go about their normal business."

Reading some of the responses in these ipob threads makes one begin to wonder if English language is so complex. Whenever ipob or massob gives these sit-at-home orders, overzealous miscreants among their ranks usually take laws into their hands to foment trouble by harassing innocent citizens who do not comply with the order. Like I said several times here, this has been happening from as far back as the massob days.

@marvinsync, I understand your desperation to dissociate IPOB from the activities of these urchins, but unfortunately, the fact remains that the perpetrators of these acts are IPOB members, IPOB adherents and IPOB foot soldiers; that is not to say however that they were sent on the errand by the IPOB high command.. Except you mean to tell me these guys who try to forcefully enforce the IPOB orders are OPC or bokoharam or ND Avengers or Ombatse cult members or some other unknown groups, then you're making no point.

Regarding the police order, the message by the police is clearly directed at these miscreants who intend to, and who usually harass innocent citizens in the guise of enforcing the IPOB order. By asking people to 'DISREGARD' the sit-at-home order, the police is simply asking people not to be afraid of going about their normal businesses if they so wish. If innocent people have never been harassed in the past, then the message by the police would have been unnecessary and meaningless.

And just to sum it up, there is no way the police would go after you or anyone who decides to sit peacefully in their homes.

enoconcernme:
Bros when it comes to the issue of prayer you are exaggerating

We had shops at Ogbete and New market and I have witnessed when Catholics call for their 12 noon devotion non-Catholics don't even get involved they just go about their normal businesses. No one has been labeled "ekwensu" or chased out of the market because of that. Please do not generalize ejoo.

To be honest we never had shops in Aba or Onitsha and I have never been in any of these market places (Aba and Onitsha) when they call for prayers so I can't say what exactly happen there. As for that of Enugu I am sure of what I am saying.

Let's assume you said that this was an inter-domination prayer by the market execos then if the rules says no one should open their store then that is the rule. In which case the issue will be is the rule acceptable in this age and time and if not why hasn't it changed? I have lived in the North as well and I know that during Friday prayers some highways are closed off by praying Muslims, Muslims and non-Muslims alike have to wait for the prayer to be over before they continue their journey.

I am not saying that in this age and time that such practices should be condone. But trying to paint the issue you claimed above as if it is peculiar to a section of the country knowing the "place" of religion in the lives of present day Nigeria is just an attempt to give a dog a bad name so as to hang it.

It all has to do with conforming to the culture/traditions/desires of your environment. In the north, when they do the final call for prayers on Fridays, everyone pauses for those minutes in solidarity and even roads are blocked. Similarly in some markets down south, when they call for prayers, everyone pauses in solidarity and joins the prayers. It's all about solidarity, it's all about unity, it's all about conforming to the desires of your immediate environment.

But the point in all these which I tried to impress on the dude who brought up the prayer example is that even though everyone joins in those prayers, it doesn't necessarily mean everyone is personally 'interested' in the prayers; no one just wants to be seen as a dissident. I really thought this was common knowledge, so I'm a bit confused at why it should be a matter of debate.

enoconcernme:
I asked for source you said all you have was testimonies and that I should take that as fact. I am of the opinion that your opinion or my opinion does not constitute as fact. That is the point bro!

What I told you is FACT, it wasn't assumed and it wasnt just a personal opinion. But then, it makes absolutely no difference if you choose to believe it or not; your belief or disbelief doesnt benefit me in any way, neither does it change a fact.

erico2k2:
I dnt agree with that.therr is a passion . We as individuals should recognise . I'm frm the ND if you tell people of my extract ie in PH or warri to sit at home trust me you will get reactions already online ie even on NL things like Nah U dey feed me.who you epp amongst other replies . .Can Jagaban tell anyone in Lagos to sit at home ? Without paying them?don't we know what will happen ?
As for the prayer bit . U r wrong again . They do This out of thier own heart not fear or favour . No one is going to call U names.I schooled in the East so learnt a lot from this unity .

Unity?.. Passion? Are you for real?.. You actually believe that when they call for prayers in market places, everyone who complies does so because the are devoted Christians who are united and passionate about the prayer?... Okay, I have no more words for you.

erico2k2:
Nah I dnt think so.who enforces the no trade during the prayer times then?
I'm saying this is one point these traders unite . .its not out of fear . I wish the rest of is can be this passionate about our own idealogy . Ie the Niger Dweltans . We could hold the FG of the day to account

Prayer is a different ball game bro; but even at that, you don't need to be told that it is not everyone who closes their shops to pray that actually wants to close their shop to pray. People do things just to conform to the desires of their environment; nobody wants to be labeled 'ekwensu' for not adhering to prayer times, same way nobody wants to be labeled 'Sabo' for disobeying sit at home orders. You should know this!

gidgiddy:
Very strange story. That millions of people decided to stay at home, shut their businesses, withdraw their Children from school and they did all this because of a few unarmed "miscreants" that the same millions of people can easily over power. Only a crazy person will actually believe this story.

Nobody want to be seen o perceived as 'Sabo'..... Okay you know what? You WIN! I'm really not about to spend my morning engaging in Ipob debates. Nice day ahead!

enoconcernme:
Okay chill bro!

First and foremost I have friends and families living in the east; among them are friends and families that are originally from the East as well as friends and families that are not Igbos but that are working, schooling and living in the East as well. In addition I spent the greater part of my living in Nigeria in the East followed by Northern Nigeria and SW/SS the least.

Yes at least once a week I do speak with a friend or family members that are residing in the East. I think telling someone that I can give them numbers to call does not suffice as evidence for me to make such a wide claim as you did.

Don't you think it is better to post a link or rather not make a wide claim about issues based on what you said are testimonies by people you know? Testimonies which we can't by any means verify, testimonies that might be something you concocted. In the absence of concrete evidence I think the safest thing to do is not pander one's opinion as fact.

I understand that no government would want to break up a country under their regime but that does not mean we as citizen should sit back and watch our government overstep the line of decency in an effort to keep our country together. This raises the questions at what point do we say, here is the line that can't be crossed ? From all indication it seems that that line as become blurred that our government could do whatever they want to achieve their aim. While those at the other side of the table will cheer and support eventually when the table turns those at the 'giving' side keeps pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable action to the detriment of those at the receiving end. And so does culture of oppression and counter-oppression being kept alive.

Okay what exactly is your point?... Can we please define what this argument is about?

"I said there's been established cases of traders being harassed by overzealous miscreant for daring to open their shops on supposed 'sit-at-home' days. This happened a far back as the days of MASSOB and it still happens currently."

If I'm getting you right, are you saying my above statement is FALSE?.. Is that your position?

enoconcernme:
For the sake of prosperity please can you send us links of the so called miscreants harassing people in the past? At this age and time documentation is necessary.

Secondly you shouldn't blame people that were 'boiling' over the report, for one the report was not explicit in terms of why the police is putting out the warning and that in itself opens it to different interpretation by all parties.

In addition, most Nigerian have apathy towards the police and that comes into play when judging the intentions of any police officer in Nigeria.

Please don't forget the source I asked for, thanks in advance.

What links or evidence do you want?... My source is directly from friends and relatives residing at Aba; do you want me to give you phone numbers?.... You can also call those you know to verify whether or not massob of old or the current ipob harrasses anyone. Do you really need special education or evidence to know that whenever things like this happen in Nigeria, miscreants always take advantage of the opportunity to harrass and even rob people? This isnt even restricted to ipob or the SE.

Meanwhile does it make any sense to you that the police would go about arresting people sitting in their houses?... Of course the warning is meant strictly for those who take laws into their hands to intimidate members of the public who choose to open their shops on such days.

gidgiddy:
This is the Lagos/Ibadan expressway media narrative of why people comply with IPOB sit at home. Unfortunately, this narrative falls flat on its face when one asks a simple question. Why would a majority be scared of a minority? Why would millions of people in several states be afraid of a few unarmed "miscreants"?
How can 75% of the people be afraid of the other 25%?

It makes no sense whatsoever that millions of people can be scared of a few unarmed people.

The truth is that most of the people are standing behind IPOB

Sensible people do things for the sake of peace; not every situation deserves a confrontation or a fight. If I hear or know some miscreants will take advantage of a 'sit at home order' to forment trouble on the streets, as a sensible person, I will sit at home and also ensure I keep even my kids out of school since it's just for a day. That's what sensible people do, it has nothing to do with a measure of strength. So your 75% vs 25% analogy is flat on the ground and pointless.

If for instance you hear that 2 raving lunatics with knives and bottles are on rampage at a nearby junction, that info is enough to keep thousands of people away from that spot. So does it necessarily mean that 2 people are greater than a thousand?... #CommonSense