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PrecisionFx:
which continuous trash is this one blabbing about?

We IGBOS don't care about presidency. It is Yoruba n Hausa that keeps doing anything humanly possible to become president n VP.

The average Igbo man sitting in his palor is only thinking about how nigeria will get a president that will create an enabling environment for him to make enough money. these are things u can never understand because u dont reason like us.


if we see marginalization as a problem, we would hav long started the ass licking process so that we can become president.

The Igbo man's pride is something u will never understand.

So the SE is no longer marginalised in Nigeria's politics any more? Wonderful!... or probably you mean that the the Igbo man never cared about these things?... In Nigeria's history, there is no ethnic group that has wailed as much as the Igbos in Nigeria over marginalisation or being sidelined in the political scheme of things but you have now changed the narrative because you want to win some flimsy argument?... Tell me one reason why anyone should take you seriously with these things you're typing here? Goodnight!

resurgent4oodua:
I still don't understand why igbo leaders can make such statements and Fashola cannot. Is it that igbo leaders are not as educated as Fashola or what? I need you to explain to me please. I am very confused here.

#istandwithbuharitill2023

Okay sorry.. I must have overestimated Fsshola's intelligence then.

PrecisionFx:
"" they now turn around to wail and wail and wail about being left out in the political scheme of things in the country ""

Blatant falsehood. IGBOS don't care about this presidency like u guys from other regions do.

IGBOS are special, We don't asslick. Unlike yorubas, We can't continue to support a president who has failed badly just to become president later, we will never sell our future n the future of our children for nothing. We will always stand by what is right

Oga dont you even have any iota of shame coming online to lie about something that's known to even infants?

Which tribe or ethnic group in Nigeria doesnt want a better share of the national cake or equitable representation at the helm of affairs?... While every tribe comes up with some form of complaint or the other about being marginalised politically or otherwise, which ethnic nationality has cried about this more than the Igbos since Nigeria's history?... Tell me one single tribe or ethnic group that has or is currently lamenting about not being given a chance to rule Nigeria other than the Igbos?... Did you just stretch out your hands to type that bold statement above? And you expect to be taken seriously?.. How old are you by the way?

0monnak0da:
You are ridiculous

If you werent worse than ridiculous, you could have been able to point out what's wrong in my statement.

deomelo:
The above quote and highlights was you arguing against the same sentiments you are ranting about in this thread.

You are a victim of your own contradictions..

Oga, I was explaining 2 different things in that single post. Too bad you couldn't comprehend it because you obviously have a singular mind that only sees everything from one angle.

PrecisionFx:
we don't need to ass lick anyone to become president.

Most importantly, Yoruba votes in 2019 won't be able to get buhari a second tenure. in 2015 Yoruba gave Buhari 2.3 million votes n if u subtract that from Buharis winning margin standing at 2.6 million votes, The SW votes only helped Buhari to get 25% votes in 2/3 of states.

Yoruba votes will be useless this time.

Bro, politics is a game of numbers, and it typically involves a game of "scratch my back I scratch yours". The SW formed an alliance with the north so as to gain political relevance; the alliance seems to be working and would likely produce fruits for them in 2023. The only people who really call that alliance 'ass licking' are the people from the SE who after insulting the SW of being slaves, they now turn around to wail and wail and wail about being left out in the political scheme of things in the country. 2023, is around the corner, if apc wins in 2019, power will likely shift to the SW and this wailing about being left out politically will likely continue in the SE.

By the way, if you call it ass licking or slavery when the SW political block supports the fulani Buhari and the north, what exactly would you call the support the SE gave to GEJ (in exchange for zero tangible projects) and the support the SE is currently giving a fulani Atiku?

0monnak0da:

Except I read it wrong, Fashola made a statement that Yorubas should vote for APC so that a Yoruba man can be president in 2023.

So this is the issue

Well if you came out to criticise the way Nigerian politicians conduct their politics I would say that you have a point and some sense.[color=#990000][/color]
To single out Fashola suggests either hypocrisy or insanity or both
Is Fashola a saint or a clergyman? What has he said that is new or that other politicians have not said?
Why single him out?

That is 2018 Nigerian politics
If you can show me a quote where you have criticised Okorocha for saying exactly the same thing SEVERAL TIMES then I will take you seriously

Why focus on Fashola?

I thought I was talking to someone with sense. I thought Fashola said something no one has ever said Why are you waking up now?

GOOD MORNING

Go back and read what I wrote again and kindly point out where I absolved anyone of the blame; I clearly called it a Nigerian phenomenon and mentioned that even if everyone does it, it doesnt still make it civil. If you had half the sense or sanity you brag about, you should have noted that before insulting me.

But then, that even takes me to my next point. Even of every silly illiterate Nigerian politician out there does it, you are right about what I said, I expected more from a person in the mould of Fashola.

0monnak0da:
Quotation

What statements EXACTLY?
I see nothing wrong with what I read so maybe you read something different QUOTATION?

When the basis of a political campaign deviates from an advertisement of competence and achievement, and moves into the realm of ethnic, tribal and/or religious sentiments (e.g. if you are Muslim, vote for only Muslims, if you are Yoruba, vote for only Yorubas etc.), you don't need to be told that that shouldn't be the case in sane civil societies. Even though it's the norm in Nigeria, it doesn't necessarily make it okay for electoral choices and campaigns to be based on tribes of the candidate

Except I read it wrong, Fashola made a statement that the SW (Yorubas) should vote for APC so that a Yoruba man can be president in 2023. I'm not surprised you see nothing wrong with such an ethnic/tribal statement; after all, you're just another citizen of a country where ethnic, tribal and religious sentiments reign supreme.

0monnak0da:
Nothing tasteless about what he said
Provide a quotation of what EXACTLY was tasteless.
I will provide quotes from other Igbo leaders that are similar
He said that Yoruba should vote for theirs using a well known Yoruba proverb
To call that proverb tasteless is an insult to our heritage

There are certain statements that should never come from a person who should be an educated and enlightened statesman; there's something called political correctness in speech.

Don't you think it's rather ridiculous that your justification for such poor choice of words is that "some Igbo leaders also made similar statements"?... How exactly does that make it right?... Anyway, I forget too quickly that we have a shithole for a country where even the most lettered don't think there's anything wrong with publicly making tribal or racial remarks.

The SE has a very good political case why it has to support PDP. Supporting Atiku/Obi might just be able to assure an Igbo presidency in 2027.

Likewise, the SW has a very good political case why it has to support APC irrespective of PMB's performance. Supporting APC would providr a 95% assurance of power returning to the SW in 2023.

What I do not understand is why anyone has to insult the other group for their political choices.

Regarding power shifting to the SE, I still can't understand why anyone would sit in their house doing nothing and expect the crown to be given to him on a platter. Political powers in the SW like Tinubu and co have been licking the balls of the Fulanis for the past 4 years for a particular reason. It's even more amusing that some folks from the SE then fling insults at Tinubu and the entire SW for being Fulani slaves, and then these same set of people expect the north to handover to the SE?.... How can the north by-pass the SW that has given it all the support and then handover to it's greatest antagonists and mockers?

Afonja007:
While you people are buying tokunbo assembled China plane from Pakistan I took my daughter out yesterday to see cobra helicopter

I dont know why I find this your post funny.

EVarn:
The comments so far shows how ignorant many Nigerians are. Some are talking trash about buying weapons from "ordinary islamic" Pakistan, while others are blabbing about bombing Israel. Religious bigotry and hate is now so common that it pervades every national issue. One would expect sane people to be more concerned about the efficiency of the JF-17 (which is a 70% Chinese plane by the way) instead of the country of origin.


Whether the jets are from Muslim Pakistan or Buddhist China or Christian Russia or Jewish Israel, what matters most is the technical capabilities.

The JF-17 is a good warplane, far better in terms of aerial superiority than the fan-nose crop dusters we purchased for an over bloated price from the US.

It's really painful reading the sort of comments that litter this forum these days. You could open a thread and even on page 4, you're yet to count up to 3 meaningful posts; the comments are just a reflection Nigeria's pathetic educational system.

All hail Biafra

Meanwhile na person papa dey do this thing oo..

buhariguy:
also 69 projects in SE alone.
But Pdp received $1.1tr in 16yrs and borrowed 11tr naira without a single project.

In Nigeria, number of projects awarded truly means nothing. What matters is the number of projects executed.

Nbote:
I jus showed u a link to d website of d contractor showing dis same bridge U claim was jus completed and commissioned. Dat link was as at 2012. U can kip fooling urselves and shifting goal posts wen presented with facts

Interesting arguments going on on this thread; if only we can keep insults away... You know there's no single major road in Nigeria whose contract has not been awarded in the past; Onitsha Enugu, PH Enugu, East West road, Benin Lagos, Lokoja Abuja, Abuja Kaduna, Kaduna Kano etc etc. Contracts to fix these roads have been awarded by every single administration since IBB till date.

So with that in mind, any Nigerian already knows that just awarding a contract means absolutely nothing. Can you provide any evidence whatsoever to prove that any actual work of significance was done on these roads under those 2006 and 2012 contract awards?

Pearlyakin:
How can over 100 million people under 40 be looking to a 72-year-old to rescue us from an 82-year-old? Isn't that just non-compos mentis? They chant Atikulated! Atikulated! Isn't that how they all chanted Sai Buhari! Sai Buhari! almost 4years ago? Look where all that chants and foolishness has brought all of us, yet Nigerians still haven't learnt from their mistakes or read the handwriting on the wall.

How can a person who writes in such good English not be able to read the English title of a thread before proceeding to post his comment?

How's this comment relevant to the topic?

Kanu is a british citizen, the British authorities will always grant him his travel documents (for free) whenever he reaches out.

Funny how some ipobites actually think it would take israel to force britian to grant their own citizen his papers. Kaii! ipob brains though, we're in for another long episode of ignorance dancing on steroids. Time to go subscribe to radio biafra facebook page again, the comments from the people there cures high BP

I need to go get my glasses...

Why is it almost impossible for roads to be completed and 'marked' in Nigeria?

Kahujadekadura:
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Tell me, one Nigeria politicians u are defending then I will shoe that Nnamdi is far better than him. For Atiku, that one is d worse case. Even self, him and Buhari should be competing who is most incompetent and embezzler's .

Who said anything about defending anybody?.... You're the one struggling to defend someone here.

But on a serious note, measures should be taken (and enforced) to prevent indiscriminate movement of cattle through sensitive locations. As a protective measure also, I see no reason why a responsible leadership cannot place fences around airport runways and train tracks to prevent potential catastrophe.

Some 10 years ago, an aircraft slammed into a herd of cattle which invaded the runway at PHC International; luckily it was a very large plane so the effect wasn't catastrophic on the plane. We keep getting cases of herd of cattle invading roads, schools, stadiums etc. and posing serious safety concerns. Of course it's until the family members of some paramount ruler is killed in one of these avoidable traps, that's when the authorities would take action.

Kaii... Some Nigerians can really be painfully dumb.

Kahujadekadura:
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Not even up to 50 names died in kaduna are too much for buhari to mention
Not up to 100 names killed by Fulani are too much for Buhari to accept tagy they were killed by Fulani talk less of calling their names.
Not up to 2 human right personnel killed by Boko Haram are too much for buhari to make an open peace in their memory.
You are a big fool for not knowing d fault of ur master but went to higher extent far as isreal to find another person fault

The same buhari who is being derided as a dullard everyday is now the same person you now desperately hang on to as your yardstick to measure your Kanu's intelligence? Wonderful!

Ah ah! Was Jack the dog actually a dog?...

When I originally read that, I assumed Jack was somone like a personal bodyguard.

purem:
Are you Father intelligence

Lol...

omolorlarh:
God bless you

Thanks...

Lexusgs430:
He mentioned closing eyes and connection, inducing the falls ......

Yeah the keypoint of what I said was that the person has to be deeply focused on the prayer itself. Eyes being open or closed isnt of much significance.

Lexusgs430:
What about those praying, with eyes open ....... Why do they also fall ?

Connecting or focusing in prayer isnt applicable to only closing your eyes.

Orevastar5:
But with demons in some one
He/she must bow to our lord

Shikina
Don't let God get annoyed with you

The madman with several demons in the bible knelt before he christ

I didnt say those with demons wouldnt or cannot fall; rather I said for those who fall, it dont necessarily mean they have demons.

bettercreature:
Wonders, as they say, shall never end in Nigeria. I am so ashamed of myself. So much so that I feel like disappearing from the surface of the earth upon watching the video of the “almighty Nnamdi Kanu” of the Indigenous People of Biafra (IPOB) praying in Jerusalem for misleading our people and absconding with his ill-gotten wealth. These are indeed lessons to be learned when we wipe up unnecessary sentiments in the polity. And also a reminder to us as a people that we should take our time to study the motives and actions of individuals masquerading themselves as religious and ethnic champions.

The Nnamdi Kanu’s case was quite an unfortunate episode when one realized how he deceived many people into believing he is the messiah they have been waiting for. He became a nuisance, and he is still one, and he gave out himself, not only as an ethnic champion, but he also arrogated himself a spiritual role in the lives of some members of the unsuspecting public.

In truth, I was one of those that fell for his gimmick. I recall that I rose stoutly in his defense when it was speculated that he had either been killed or whisked away by the Nigeria Army when it launched Operation Python Dance to curtail the excesses of armed groups and other vices in South East Nigeria. But little did I know that the so-called progenitor of the now proscribed Indigenous People of Biafra (IPOB) had perfected plans and indeed fled the country. So many questions are begging for answers in my head. And one of them is why he choose the dishonorable path of running away and leaving the people he was leading to their fate?

I am also hurt that his cowardly act left our people in sorrow and pains. He used them to enrich himself and family, and when the time came for him to stand for his people, he fled. What a shame. At this point, it would suffice to state that I indeed owe the Chief of Army Staff, and by extension the Nigeria Army an unreserved apology for my unwarranted and unverified vent of ignorance when it was speculated that Nnamdi Kanu had been whisked away. I also believe that other social commentators that also fell victim of Nnamdi Kanu gimmick and labeled the Nigeria Army in derogatory terms should also tender their unreserved apologies. Why this is necessary, you might want to ask.

It is essential because once upon a time, a certain man named Nnamdi Kanu instigated a national crisis that threatened the continued existence of Nigeria. He allegedly sought and received financial gratification from individuals, groups, and even countries that were against the progress of Nigeria. And only for him to flee. And that in itself caused a national crisis when various groups started a campaign of defamation against the Nigerian Army.I recall that the President General of Afaraukwu, his autonomous community, Chief Ikechukwu Nwabueze, revealed the community’s resolve to sue the Federal Government if they fail to produce their son, Nnamdi Kanu. If this is not the height of deceit and mischief, I do not know what to call it. I do hope he is ready to pay any sum that will be required by the Federal Government as compensation for blackmail.
It didn’t end there, a team of IPOB lawyers, led by Mr. Ifeanyi Ejiofor, filed a suit before the Federal High Court in Abuja praying for an order directing the Chief of Army Staff, Lt.-Gen. Tukur Buratai, to produce Kanu in court. Because, Kanu was last seen after soldiers invaded the IPOB leaders house in Afara-ukwu Ibeku, Umuahia Abia State, “on a murderous raid, where life and mortar bullets were fired on an unarmed and defenseless populace, leaving 28 persons dead and abducting many”. If this is not the height of deceit, then what else is it?

Also worrisome was the fact that the hypocrisy of IPOB was taken too far and it came with consequences, such that would affect the sincerity of purpose on the people of the South East in the marginalization debate in the future.I say this because even with the knowledge of the promoters of IPOB that their leader had fled, they still went ahead to issue a statement indicating that the federal government may have killed Nnamdi Kanu. The statement at the time read that “IPOB and its leadership worldwide under the command and leadership of Mazi Nnamdi Kanu wish to bring to the notice of the whole world that the whereabouts of our leader Mazi Nnamdi Kanu and parents are still unknown to humanity since the attack in his compound last week. IPOB have been searching for our leader Mazi Nnamdi Kanu and parents nowhere to be found since last week; we are challenging the Nigerian army and police to produce our leader Mazi Nnamdi since it is a prerogative right for him to make statement inform his confidants and teeming members all over the world about his condition.” This was the height of hypocrisy

I now wonder what the next line of action would be for IPOB and its promoters since their leader had resurfaced in Jerusalem instead of one of the detention camps of the Nigeria Army. Would they bury their heads in shame? Would they issue an unreserved apology to their unsuspecting followers whom they had deceived into believing in a cause that had turned out to be a scam? All of these are questions that must be answered if we are sincere with our selves.

Those that also stood as surety for him also lied under oath that the Nigerian Army had Nnamdi Kanu in its custody. They have committed perjury, and the law must take its cause in my opinion. There is also a new dimension to the whole saga with the fact that he was sighted in Israel after committing crimes against the state in Nigeria. What does that tell us? Does it explain the claims by regional neighbors that Israel trains, arms, and backs terrorists? This is a topic for another day.

With the unfolding drama, it is now evident that the agitation by IPOB was just a smokescreen to exploit his people. There was no iota of truth in all of his public posturing other than the fact that he saw an avenue to enrich himself and he took advantage of it. I am sure those South East leaders and elders under the umbrella of Ohaneze Ndigbo, that fell victim for his gimmick would be hiding their faces as it stands. But even as they do that, I think they should apologize to the Nigerian government, the Chief of Army Staff, and the Nigeria Army for the ignorant campaign of calumny it launched.

Mbani is a public affairs commentator and President of the South East Renewal Group [SERG]
https://leadership.ng/2018/10/20/nnamdi-kanus-appearance-and-my-apology-to-the-nigerian-army/

It's actually possible that he was captured by the Army, taken to the borders, released and asked to never come back to the country (else he would be shot at next time). Time would tell the real story.

Orevastar5:
Some people are just stupid
You're saying the pastors are stage managing the falls because you've never fallen under the annointing
While you're so daft to know that these people that fall under the anointing have one spiritual problem or the other
You're not falling only mean two things
It's either you're not having any demon in you
Or
God don't want to deliver you yet because you're always on threads like this doubting his works

Falling has nothing to do with 'having demons' like you claim.