₦airaland Forum

Jolar101:
Well, I will let you be, but, don't forget that president Buhari is also a looter and a pretender.

So that's the message you've been desperate to pass all along?.. Okay I've heard you, but that doesnt change the fact that he's far less of a looter than all his recent predecessors.

The kind of embarrassing lies and propaganda churned out by the media wings of IPOB is an embarrassment to humanity. I just read about the NUCLEAR ROCKET purportedly built by an IPOB engineer who returned from Russia. The story happily being spread by IgbereTV and Radio Biafra. These are the sort of foolish propaganda they use to encourage and incite hungry illiterates to go confront armed trigger-happy policemen and soldiers, the poor brainwahsed victims believing that Kanu will unleash nuclear missiles on Nigeria. I never believed imagined this sort of stupidity could exist close to me...

BREAKING! Rusia Based Biafran That Came Back Home Last Yr Has Build a Nuclear Missile (Biafra Satan 404) – Radio Biafra

Biafra is flexing its military muscle as tensions rises with the Nigeria over 1st october quit notice by Arewa youths.

The RS-28 Sarmat missile—better known as the Satan 404 nuclear missile—has finally been revealed after years of being hyped by the Biafran Unknown government.

According to the Report, “the super-nuke has a payload capable of destroying 10 northern state at ones .”

The new weapon can deploy warheads of 40 megatons, or about 2,000 times as powerful as the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagaski in 1945.

the maker of this missle has named it the atomic bombs Satan 404, it is capable of wiping out 10 states.
https://igberetvnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/radio-biafra-snap.jpg
https://igberetvnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/biafra-satan-404.jpg

Uteghe:
I just confirmed from an anambra indigene that no one was shot yesterday. Teargas canister only hit an IPOB member in the head. The photo of ''corpses'' posted on social media was staged.

@Op you are most likely right. The policemen definitely attacked IPOB members with teargas, but the only casualty seems to be the guy who was allegedly injured by the teargas canister in the picture below.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5823371_ipobarmyekwuloabia_jpega36e73ba6e839ec6495e397c4da16b09

The picture of the other dude lying on the floor which was circulated yesterday is an old pix from the archives.

http://www.ikibase.com/2017/01/20/donald-trump-solidarity-rally-turns-bloody-in-nigeria-as-security-operatives-kills-11-ipob-members/

Abudu2000:
bro no light in my area so i cant waste my battery power on dead brain cells as yours.so be gone already

Lol... Bros abeg go find food chop and stop quoting me... SErious minded people know that man shouldn't live by for food alone

Jolar101:
What makes you believing that this government is a poorest government in the history of Nigeria?

Mr Man, the only reason I am still responding to you is because I am assuming you are just trolling and trying to be funny. We were comparing the last admin and the current admin and you asked what makes me think the current admin is poorer. Once again, I do not have an answer to that your question so please take the question elsewhere, maybe you can take the question to a primary 2 class, I'm sure you would get an answer there...

Jolar101:
Truths are hard to speaks.

You should have told me earlier that you were only a comic troll. Then I would have properly understood the motive behind that your question.

Abudu2000:
singing 2pac*** they have money for war but they cant feed the poor***

$mh for you coz you are the one whose reasoning is way below nigerian standard here

You know what?.. I just recalled that food is the only thing a typical black man knows, so you can be excused.

MosakuAW:
Stop deluding yourself. None of the board member presently @Arsenal will sell Arsenal fc to Dangote.

Football business is not same as manufacturing of Sugar or salt.

Let him buy smaller club first and manage it before making empty promises.

What is this one talking about?... The most important thing in such transactions is the cash...

From $78?... What kind of report is this?... Is it 78 or 28?

Abudu2000:
Wasting tax payers money on stuffs that would literally add nothing to the ppls standard of living. thing look easy on the eyes but if only the public have an idea how much was wasted on this, not to mention the embezzlement percentage. Off course there's always that percentage when anything is being done in africa.

Spending on defense is never a waste, and locally producing something that would typically have been imported is a very commendable move. Gosh! One just has to wonder what is wrong with the reasoning of some Nigerians who just feel evrything must be criticised.

bahaushe1:
It isnt ASUU debt. It is meant for Universities revitalisation. 220b NGN was to be paid into the account every year. GEJ paid 200b NGN in 2013, failed to pay anything in 2014. PMB failed to pay anything in 2015, 2016, and 2017. SO, PMB's government is responsible for 660b NGN out of that 850b NGN.

Thanks for the clarification; but let's not forget that GEJ drafted the budget in 2015.

omohayek:
By the way, the following quote from the article really stuck out to me:

The sheer scale of the negligence at work here is almost unbelievable! This sort of idiocy is exactly what worries me about the FG's involvement in these projects: even if the rail lines are concessioned to private operators like GE to run, what is to stop crooked, stupid or vote-seeking politicians from undermining the operators through measures like refusing to allow them to raise prices after drastically devaluing the Naira, or suddenly banning the importation of vital machine parts in the name of "Buy Nigerian", even when no Nigerian equivalents exist?

My concern is that Nigerians who are used to low-quality but "awuf" services won't be willing to pay the prices required to make running these lines sustainable in the long term, and there will always be cynical or economically ignorant politicians ready to pull a Hugo Chavez by making promises that ruin the railways profitability, so that in 30 years we're back wondering how all those shiny new rail lines ended up simply gathering rust ...

30 years?.. Your fears are already playing out at the Abuja to Kaduna rail where Amaechi arbitrarily increases/reduces ticket prices purely based on politics and zero business consideration. Imagine fixing the fare at a subsidised rate of N900 (probably cheaper than catching a bus), and then coming on air to celebrate making N30million monthly while the operating cost was put at N56million/month?... That rail system is already on the road to perdition, 30 years is wild optimism...

Dollyak:
How can you have an efficient railway system without electricity from power grid?
For comparison, Lagos airport is one of the most expensive in Africa and one of the most underwhelming airports.
Logically, you need power above rail way system.

I didnt downplay the importance of power, I only pointed out that everything else doesnt have to wait till power is completely sorted; there's nothing wrong in working on them all simultaneously.

majekdom2:
Thaats not my point. It's a good development. My point is, infrastructure development is not same as diversification though related and could translate into each other. The headline is misleading. Dependence on oil is not the reason why railway or power hasn't been efficient the way they ought to.

Yeah I get your point, railways and oil cannot be compared like for like. But I think the message from the title was clear enough to me

Alitair:
To whom much is given, same is expected. He wants to start another rail project but this time on a federal level_ be here and be advocating_

There is nothing wrong with building rail systems. The only thing wrong is when a successor abandons a project because he wants to complete only fresh project in his name.

Government is a continuum; Duke started the Calabar monorail, Imoke continued the project and Ayade completed and commissioned it. Similarly, GEJ started the Abuja to Kaduna rail project, PMB/Amaechi completed and commisioned it. Today Amaechi is starying the Lagos to Kano and Lagos to Calabar rails. The projects will definitely not be completed in 4 or even 8 years and it is the responsibility of who ever takes over as the successors of PMB/Amaechi to continue and complete the project from wherever Amaechi stops.

FYI, Amaechi isnt the one who abandoned Rivers monorail, Wike is.

majekdom2:
correct but railway is not directly diversification. Of what use is an efficient railway system when there is no power. Point still remains they are not same. Enough of the government doing the right thing then claim is diversification!

A robust railway system is a vital tool for diversification; power also is. Are suggesting every activity on railways should be put on hold while we work only on power?

Alitair:
And that way abandoned projects will start becoming monumental in the town.?

I'm not sure I understand your point. Who is abandoning a project?... You were calling on an ex-governor to come complete a project he started when he was governor; this is despite the fact that there is currently a governor in the state. Or are you suggesting Wike should step down as governor for Amaechi to take over?

majekdom2:
I wonder why make this kind of comparison. Rail is a, infrastructure, oil is a natural resource. One reason for diversification is forex.. This is possible via sales of goods and services outside Nigeria. where are the incentives to strengthen the value of Naira??

A robust transport infrastructure and availability of power supply are the two most important ingredients for industrialisation. An industrialised Nigeria is a diversified Nigeria.

Alitair:
Amaechi please come and finish your mono-rail you started in PH first.
_God I must be a politician_

Is there no current governor in Rivers state?... Or is the governor of Rivers in coma that you want an ex-governor to come continue a state project he started?... Clowns everywhere!

chie8:
Are you kidding me?Church suspend human rights lawyer Barrister Inibehe Effiong and others for leading protest against Governor Emmanuel Udom's decision to build another Governor's lodge in Lagos even though there was a functioning lodge in the city.

cc; Lalasticlala, mynd44

Source: http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/08/church-suspend-barrister-inibehe.html?m=1

A joke right?

yaki84:
bros r u saying oil contributes almost the entire of nigeria economy?

No I am saying oil accounts for almost the entire Togolese economy.

Of course your teachers who told you that oil is the mainstay of Nigeria's economy weren't dull. That statement still holds true even till the next 10-20 years. Remove oil suddenly and Nigeria dies instantly...

yaki84:
r u aware oil earnings contributes just 15percent of the nation's budget?

Haha... The more they look, the less they see... Uncle, 15% of Nigeria's earnings might have been quoted to come from oil, so where do you think the remaining 85% comes from?... Yam exports?

15% might be from direct oil sales while almost 80% comes from tax receipts. Now which industry do you think contributes 90% of those company tax figures?

Keballl:
Look ! you can only deceive the gullible folks !This thread is about the nonchallant speech of the Presidential spokesman talking authoritatively over an issue neither the Acting President nor the Minister of education have expressed.

What did you come here to do ? Offcourse try to snidely justify the unnecessary speech by insisting on why the past who "earned 5 times more couldn't upset the cost"

I have asked you to provide verifiable data to the bold above and you have gone mute on that.

Once again, my post on this thread was in response to a clown who labelled PMB a curse for being unable to meet ASUU's demand, but in the same post, the clown claimed GEJ was a saint whom he missed. I simply drew his attention to the fact that even GEJ who earned more actually failed to offset the same ASUU debt.

Mr Keballl, except you are trying to tell me you do not have the basic comprehension skills expected of an adult, I do not understand why you still cannot understand my simple point that my comments on this thread were in direct response to the clown I originally quoted. Even the person I responded to is aware he was only trolling, hence he didn't bother with an argument. What exactly is your own problem?.. Do I need to break your head and pour knowledge into it before you understand simple English?... Please stop spewing nonsense in my mentions...

I have asked you to provide verifiable data to the bold above and you have gone mute on that.

I might not have exact figures regarding how much was made from oil, but my conclusions are based on average oil prices and oil production levels between both administrations which makes it clear that the current admin has earned far far less than what the last admin earned (a very simple logic for anyone who cares to know). Meanwhile you can make your estimates with these 2 reports below which give you an insight into 'possible' figures:
http://sunnewsonline.com/buhari-earns-58bn-in-27-months-to-jonathans-454bn-in-6-years/
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/08/jonathan-nigeria-earned-n51trillion-crude-oil/
I know you may claim the reported figures are fake, but they were never disputed by anyone. You can kindly give us you own figures too if you think these ones are fake.

Blue3k:
I can believe this. Look at this discovery all they needed was a shovel and few magnets probably.

Is Iron-Oxide magnetic?

ahaika23:
You can't be asking such dumb question naaaaaaa

I said what lives did he impact in 2015?.... There's nothing dumb about the question.

The year 2015 is a very level playing ground to compare gej and his successor because at least oil price was low in that year and that was the year the whole economic crisis started.

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Nigeria has about the worst set of unprofessional trigger-happy military and policemen that could end innocent lives for as little as N20 bribe, that is an already established fact. But do we really have to dig up old fake pictures from the archives to promote out campaign?

@Op, you know the picture you posted above is an old pix right?

Keballl:
You don't need to explicitly mention it. Your undertone gave you away. You can only deceive newbies who don't understand how you operate.

Stop pretending to be objective.

Aha.. instead of respecting himself by being quiet, he has resorted to another baseless rhetoric to justify his lack of focus. You claim I only 'pretend' to be objective, that's fine. But at least I'm far better than a person like yourself who cant even 'act' being objective.

My first comment on this thread and infact, all my comments on this thread were directed at the clown who decided to politicise ASUU matter betwrrn GEJ vs PMB... I made that clear to you severally, but since in your wisdom, you have chosen to insist you made no mistake earlier by castigating me, kindly prove this your wisdom by pointing out where I inferred (even if it's on another thread) that govt shouldnt pay ASUU. I dey wait!

ahaika23:
Attached is 2015 budget table. As we can see, recurrent exp stands at 1.8trn for personnel cost. Also clearly shown is Government's income standing at 3.6trn based on projected expectations. Even with the huge 1.8trn wage bill a recurrent expenditure of 3.9trn, and an expected income of 3.6trn, GEJ manage to impact lives hugely positively. My question to you is this, basing your assertions of 1.9 trn on wage bill, are you trying to say Buhari's budget was not properly funded? I need you to show proof that Buhari did not borrow to complement for the deficit in funds which you and I know each successive government have been borrowing massively. We all remember Buhari's China loan etc. Now you can't say Buhari Stuck to 2.8trn and did not borrow to cover up the remaining needed funds. So what did Buhari do with the 6 trillion budget? Remember also GEJ administration left ALMOST an empty treasury running into billions of dollars.

Abeg what lives did GEJ impact in 2015 with a budget of less than N20bn for Works ministry which saw hundreds of contractors abandoning sites amd sacking workers?

ahaika23:
Kemi, was it not magical that when Professor Buhari came into power that naira came tumbling? Is it not because CBN is now allowed to pump dollar into the market that makes the effect relaxing a bit now? Abi you think if Buhari had not gone on maternity leave that dollar wont be 500 naira now? Go and be doing your exchange rate bla bla bla somewhere in the corner of your room. Wake up from that impass where you have decided to believe that the dullard who flew the entire planet his first 6 months without working was a step in the right direction. Let me tell you, or why don't you enter a bus and start travelling round your zone for six months for I assure you, there will be prosperity in your home when you return.

Even a child knows that you cant give what you dont have... You cant pump forex into the market if you dont have enough forex; reason why the CBN had to build up reserves which had fallen badly to $23bn as at September last year up to $30bn earlier this year before it resumed pumping forex into the economy.

If you are also observant, as at late 2014 when oil prices began dropping, Nigeria had almost $40bn in reserves. This money was pumped constantly into the economy to stabilise the Naira until mid 2015 when Jonathan left and only a measly $29bn was left in the reserves. Meanwhile despite pumping up to $10bn in a space of 6-7months, the Naira still fell nevertheless from N160 to N220 (and note that oil still sold above $60 at this time).

Of course with reserves down at $29bn when PMB took over, every educated/sensible person (except Jonathainaians) knew why the govt had to bring up the forex restrictions to prevent the reserves from wiping out completely since the oil price kept dropping. Forex restrictions of course led to scarcity in the market and scarcity damaged the value of the Naira further.

Like I said above, even infants know that you cant disburse what you dont have. But educated adults here seem to disprove this logic.

ahaika23:


Like the one that said Nigeria was the fastest economy in 2014/2015 against 4.56 million jobs lost in 2016?

Focus on the topic boy... How much forex did Nigeria make from oil from 2010-2015 vs 2015-2017?... You can use that as the foundation of your argument. Oh I forgot, you even started this thread claiming it doesnt matter how much forex Nigeria made. You also claimed only 15% of GDP is related to oil, hence it doesnt matter if 93% of the country's earnings actually come from oil. I doubt you have the intellectual capacity to discern fact and figures, so I give up. You win. Bye!

Jolar101:
Why not?

Brcause it is a pointless question not worthy of a response.

Keballl:
You simply said nothing. Just go ahead and tell us the ASUU staff deserve not to earn what is due to them while the cabals feeds fat in Abuja.

Some of you lack simple conscious.

Mr Man, I hate it when people just ramble nonsense without paying attention. Can you point out where I remotely mentioned that ASUU guys dont deserve their money or that the FG shouldnt pay?... Kindly point out where I remotely or directly inferred that from any of my comments on this thread?

I made my point very clear in my last post, I was responding to a clown who claimed GEJ was a saint despite owing ASUU but PMB who inherited the debt but hasnt been able to clear it is the villain. Learn to understand the basis of comments before you proceed to castigate people.