₦airaland Forum

ofai:
APGA Should stop their fearmongering and go on with their APGA campaign. IPOB election boycott cannot in any way affect those will vote. IPOB is not their opponent. UPP, PPA, PDP, APC should be their worries.

MASSOB s census boycott has absolutely nothing to do with the rights and privileges of anambra state. It didn't even affect the census because at the end, projections were made by de facto, not necessarily de jure census.

Whether the massob census boycott order worked or not isn't what I'm talking about here, my point is simply that it was a pointless ill-thought idea which could only have left the SE at a disadvantage; a pure case of shooting yourself on the foot to spite your neighbours.

ofai:
It's a shame some Nigerians can be this low. You still haven't​ countered my position intelligibly. Your own matter is about minorities surpassing the igbos. In what? Population? Resources? Are you this insecure?

There are more minorities in the north than in the south so check your ego brother.

Lol, there is absolutely nothing wrong with my ego mate. Jeez!... You obviously dont have a clue what I've been talking about. Now let me make my point as clear as possible, 'massob asking Igbos not to make themselves available to be counted in a census, that was a dumb idea which could only backfire against the SE; there was no iota of wisdom in that order.'

My point is clearly stated above.. Now what is your own point?... cos maybe I missed it earlier?

ogawisdom:
Joe u r one of the idiots n pigs answering Biafra name but fighting Biafra

Nnamdi Kanu is nt ur level he wants to engage intellectuals not idiots n pigs

And of course according to una ipob brains, INTELLECTUAL = Someone who supports biafran secession?

Angeleena:
is that all?

Kindly tell me what it is since you know better... Because the public hatred for the man obviously originated from his affiliations with ACN/APC and of course his refusal to politically align with GEJ against the will of majority of Igbos.

The hatred/contempt for the man then reached the peak when as an APC man still rejoicing over the victory of his party over PDP, he obviously publicly opposed the recent secessionist agitations which of course are just nothing but a pseudo political opposition against APC/Buhari.

HMZi:
Stupid old Joe....
I aint ibo but the way the dude dey sell out him bro's just makes me wanna puke...

Sellout his brother because he refused to join the culture of madness?... The culture brought down upon youths today whixh preaches hatred of other big tribes as the biggest virtue anyonne must possess to be a 'proper' Igbo man?

Angeleena:
nonsense,butt licker...Joe Esau igbokwe,selling ur birthright for amala and red oil soup...soo silly...ur kids,eat amala,so we should stupidly clap and hail them? this is total nonsense.. telling us how,u became a wanderer, makes no point at all..

Because he did not join to lick GEJ's ass and because he refused to be involved in inter-tribal hatred like millions of deranged youths are encouraged to do today. That is what makes him useless in your own wonderland.

ofai:
So what does difference it make when you know that either by hook or crook, the census will still favour the north?

If I know the whole thing will be lopesided then what is essence of engaging into it at the first place? Do you now get my point? I believe that was the thought of MASSOB

You know something will not favour you, yet you go ahead and engage in acts that will further get you disadvantaged. What exactly is the sense in that?

The fact of the matter is that there was absolutely no wisdom in that act. Very soon the population of even hitherto minority tribes would surpass that of Igbos in the books, and we will jump out and blame Hausas for that too because everything must always be about a rivalry with the north....

By the way, what do you even mean by saying a census will always favour the north?.. Taking away all manipulations or irregularities, dont you think the north would still be more populated?... Remember you are juggling 3 massive zones together...

ofai:
You don't bring a matter and then judge it all by yourself.

Census since the 50s has always favoured the North because the colonial masters wanted it that way in order to make the north relevant in the Nigerian project.

The so-called understanding of the north on politics is simple- the power of unity in sheer numbers, not because any political dexterity​ of any sort.

The south east has never been united like the north.

Uwazurikes Massob should not be blamed because the census has been structured in a way to favour the north from the onset. The excuse APGA is giving is mere propaganda.

The point I made was, if we all know the north already gains more advantage in things like population census (either through hook or crook), the sensible thing to do would have been to smartly develop ideas which will help to capture not just the full south eastern population, but also inflate it if possible. But instead what did we get?.... Uwazuruike's massob asked and intimidated people to boycott elections because south easterners shouldn't be regarded/counted as Nigerians, but Biafrans. That's an act of shooting yourself on the forehead and you think massob got that one right?

ofai:
APGA AND PROPAGANDA. Was it today that northerners had been cheating the east on numbers? It has been there since the 50s.

How did northerners cheat the east?.... Just like in every other national issue, the so called illiterate northerners have a better understanding of the dynamics of Nigerian politics, they understand the importance of numbers and unity, hence they scheme together and manipulate things to increase their numbers.

But what do we get in the highly educated south east?... Firstly, half of the south eastern population is counted outside the zone and the numbers added to other zones.

Then to make matters worse, some group of cretins in massob come up with a campaign that people in the SE shouldn't allow themselves to be counted because it is a 'Nigerian' census. Result is that the south east's population is severely underestimated, and that consequently results in reduced allocations for the zone. And then we run around shouting 'marginalisation'. Right now Ipob is following the exact same path... And we keep on wailing about how the north is cheating...

smartty68:
So its only strategic areas in Naija that requires 24hours uninterrupted power supply...! Na wa o for these our kind of mentality. No wonder Nigeria is a dumping ground for all kinds of generators and polluted atmosphere

What a rocket science indeed

It's called prioritisation my friend, stop acting like you don't know what that means and stop nagging.

When there isnt enough resources (power) to go round, you prioritise and allocate more resources to key industrial locations. Shouldnt that be common sense?

Interesting!... Majority of the great men in the world today started being great from a very young age.

dumodust:
please leave igbo nation out of this and face those made people that wear winter wear in the tropics... the maniacal ipob

A drop of ink a bucket pollutes the entire water in the bucket. You will agree with me that considering the number of people who have pledged their entire lives to ipob, they certainly represent more than just a drop of ink; and it keeps getting worse because smart people have refused to speak up.

Warship:
[s]Why run away


You don't have any point to challenge mine[/s].

Which sane person challenges a robot/computer virus?

Warship:
Since Fulani herdsmen terrorists are on rampage, any Igbo man or woman shouting One Nigeria is worst than a pig.

I didnt know I was conversing with a brainless robot which keeps repeating the same sentence like a corrupt harddisk. Bye!

Warship:
Only those Igbos worse than pigs will keep shouting One Nigeria while Fulani herdsmen terrorists breath down the necks of Biafran farmers.

Like I said before, mad men aren't only those with tattered clothes walking aimlessly on the streets. A lot of them also exist online and in social rallies. Biafra isn't the solution to any problem of Igbos; if there is anything it can achieve, it will only open the eyes of the brainwashed majority that the real problems have since been ignored.

Biafra is only a coward's escape route for his failings to do what his mates are doing. While leaders of other tribes scheme for their people, it's been obvious that Igbo leaders only scheme for their personal pockets. There is bad leadership all across Nigeria including in Igboland, the marginalisation talked about is suffered by everyone and the problem is purely from our leaders and not the 'other big tribes' like millions of the masses have been brainwashed by Kanu and co. to believe. Biafra will solve nothing, but will rather drag the Igbo nation another 50 years backwards. Obviously the loudest chanters of Biafra Biafra dont give a damn about all these anyway because they are mainly the ones who dont have a pin to their names.

Leonbonapart:
no matter how we argue and quote ourselves, don't forget tattoo remain unholy and unrighteous, that makes it a "sin"

No, I refuse to be a blind Christian; the only verse which prohibits having ink on your body falls within the abolished Mosaic laws in the book of Leviticus. Meanwhile that same chapter also prohibits the wearing of dual fabric on your body, shaving your side hair and it commands the use of animal blood sacrifices. I keep asking, why do you disregard those other laws in v19 and v27, but hold on tightly to the law in v28 to judge people with tatoos?.... You obviously cannot answer my question hence you abruptly end the argument with unsubstantiated conclusions.

Like I said earlier, Christianity isn't as complex as many modern day Christians are forcing it to be. If a man loves God with all his heart and loves his neighbours as himself, if the same man also lives righteously in every area of his life, there is absolutely no way a simple piece of ink on his body will prevent him from being favoured or redeemed by God (except of course the ink is used to depict unholy/blasphemous arts or literature). Christ has already made it clear in Mark 7 that nothing on the outside can defile a man, but rather what defiles a man is originates from his heart. Except you are trying to tell me the Mosaic laws of the old covenant supersedes the teachings of Christ, then I do not know what you are all about.

Cooldude68:
Revelation 21:27 NIV: Nothing impure will
ever enter it...
In my own understanding, tatoos fall in that category.
Get something straight, God will never lower his standards no matter hw u twist it.

Going by your understanding and interpretation, then no one is going to enter Heaven... Because there are many laws in that same book of Leviticus and Deuteronomy which we all disregard because they are old Mosaic laws which have passed away.

But since you claim those laws are still valid, kindly explain to me why you hold on tightly to Leviticus 19:28, but you blatantly disregard v19 and v27?... Kindly tell us why you don't practice animal sacrifices and sprinkling of ram blood on your head every now and then as instructed in that same chapter 19 in Leviticus?... Or according to your own understanding, were those other laws not also from God?... I would love to hear your response.

It seems a lot of us just read without making any effort to understand, but rather just wait for one man-of-God to pour down his own understanding to us. Christ came and made things easy and straightforward, but we seem to prefer keeping ourselves in bondage by making Christianity look complex.

Warship:
tsdarkside
obailala

Any Igbo man shouting One Nigeria is a pig

Reason

How can you be shouting One Nigeria while Hausa Fulani herdsmen terrorists roam round Biafran land.

All I can say is that mad men aren't only those with tattered clothes walking aimlessly on the streets.

DONSMITH123:

funny

Funny and sad

According to Kanu and his millions of followers, Igbos are humans but all other Nigerians are animals grazing in a zoo.

Now a new twist, Igbos who don't buy into his imbecilic ideology and methods are not humans too, they are pigs to be precise. Lol!

While the above may sound very amusing, it's extremely disheartening when one considers the millions upon millions of people who actually revere this raving lunatic. There's certainly severe poverty in the land, both physical and mental poverty.

Leonbonapart:
leveticus 19v27 was the law strictly meant for Nazarites(Samson for example) they are always separated and consecrated unto God at all time. Last time I check the ten commandment came from the ancestous law...
Bible is not about read and understand, but read and wait on the HolyGhost for understanding. That's why is deifferent from every other book

Bro, the laws in Leviticus chapter 19 were directed at the entire Israelites and not Nazarites; the word Nazarite was never mentioned anywhere in that whole chapter. If you say I'm wrong, then kindly point to the verse which says the laws were for Nazarites?.... And then again, if you claim verse 27 was for Nazarites (of which it is clearly not), how come you don't think the next verse (v28) was also for Nazarites?

The 10 commandments were Mosaic laws, but Jesus Christ re-affirmed them. Can you point out anywhere in the bible where Jesus reaffirmed Mosaic laws of shaving hair, tatoos, animal sacrifices, dual fabrics etc?....

By the way, you didn't mention anything about Lev19:19?.... Oh now I get it, even though the verse is clear in white and black, you claim you got a different interpretation from the Holy Spirit?

Bro, you sound like one of the religious ministers who would also condemn women for wearing trousers, earrings, hair extensions etc?.... What about men who braid their hair?... You sound like one who would label that a sin too?...

In summary, my own understanding of the scripture tells me Christ came to fulfil the laws and the prophecies and also to make things straightforward and less complex (i.e. to clear out a lot of grey areas). Christ places emphasis on the contents of a man's heart, and not on what he wears or paints on his body. Let's stop trying to make Christianity look complex...

Leonbonapart:
people like you will marry their cousins becos new covenant and Grace, abuse themselves with mankind, steal and confess becos we in errar of Grace. Let him that thinks that he stands, let him take heed less he falls. Note: Christ only tighten the laws and fulfill them, he never abolish them. Then again ye are saved by Faith through grace.

Nope, Christ understood the complexity of those Mosaic laws and he simplified them.

But then I ask again, since you have chosen to follow the complicated path of the Mosaic laws, why do you chose to observe Leviticus 19:28 but totally disregard Leviticus 19:19 and 19:27?.... I would love hear your answer.

By the way, the bible clearly forbids incestous relationships in both the old and new testament...

PrettyGaby:
Brother, you go go heaven. The concept of the new covenant just confounds some people. They would rather just live in bondage.

Amen oo... I think what we see in the world today is that people are bored with the straightforwardness of Christianity, hence they want something a bit more complex to brag about. There are churches today which even claim that a woman wearing earrings or hair extensions or trousers is a sin; those are just cases of bored Christians who now create new laws to distinguish and keep their members busy.

ebenholer:
What a new law of the spirit in christ Jesus does is to stop the death penalty placed on sin committed, it does not in any way abolished or wiped out the mosaic laws. To be noted too.

kindly go back to my previous post, I just modified it.

Since you think those laws arent already abolished, why do you stick with only Leviticus 19:28?.... Why dont you observe Lev 19:19 which prohibits you from wearing dual fabrics?... why dont you also stick to the same Mosaic law in verse 19:19 which prohibits you from planting mango and orange in the same field?

Why dont you practice the slaughtering of rams and smearing of their blood on your head?.... Why do you also shave your side beards?... I thought Leviticus 19:27 (the verse just before the tatoo verse) prohibits us from shaving our side burns?

In reality, how possible is it for you to observe all the Mosaic laws from Leviticus to Deutronomy etc?... Christ already made all these very easy but we seem to still prefer the complex impracticalities.

Leonbonapart:
your madness has gone acenstory that's fine but blasphemous words against the word of God will bring you to a quick end.... promise

He was only pointing out that those levitical laws have been abolished.

Leonbonapart:
Dude trying to keep his hustling alive so he can eat!

What about leveticus 19v28part: make no cuttings on your body for the dead, nor print any mark on your flesh, I am the Lord

Very amusing how people still churn out Mosaic laws in Leviticus as justification for anything in this day and age; it just shows that people simply dont read, but rather prefer others to read and interpret everything for them.

Out of the hundreds of laws in that same Levitucus, how come you only pick one or two convenient ones and dwell on them?...

What about Leviticus 19:19 which prohibits you from wearing 2 different kinds of fabrics?... In that same verse, you are also prohibited from planting 2 different seed in a particular field. In essence, if you wear a denim jean trouser and a cotton shirt, or if you plant a mango and an orange tree in your farm, you are already a condemned sinner.

What about Leviticus 19:27 (the verse just before the tatoo verse)? Are you guys aware it is also a sin according to that same Leviticus chapter 19 for you to shave off your side hair a.k.a sideburns?... Only Jewish Rabbis today seem to obey that.

What about all the requirements for slaughtering rams and pouring their blood on our heads as sacrifice to the Lord, and eating the meat after 3 days?... What about the Mosaic law banning pork, how come Christians diregard that law and eat bacon and sausages freely today?... How come we disregard all those other Mosaic laws and chose to stick with Leviticus 19:28?... Probably because one pastor told us to and we are personally too lazy to just read even the preceding verse.

A lot of people claim to be Christians but sadly have no idea what it means to be Christians living under the new covenant. Jesus who represents the new covenant already made it clear that what is outside cannot defile a man, but we seem to prefer the Mosaic laws from the old covenant. Maybe you guys should all just practice Judaism because you seem to fancy it more.

But then again, maybe I'm wrong, you guys are all right.

cc: WRAKE, Leonbonapart, Favour155, snowblaq, gift4nature, Rorachy, Cooldude68

...I take a deep breath and bluntly tell him to go and anoint someone else with his mouth odour.I remind him that it's only about 7am and my lungs deserve better....

This was evil

BroZuma:
Eyah..but is the author a former man or a woman as the picture there is kinda confusing.

I swear, I totally can't place the gender of that person in the picture; top looks like a girl, bottom looks like a man. What kind of man (who knows he already facially looks girly) paints lipstick, plaits his hair and wears that massive feminine earring?... Due is probably transitioning or maybe the picture is photoshopped.

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Manbryto:
We need more of debate in this country, enough of noise making. Nnamdi kanu that I know will take this Igbokwe to the cleaners. I wish our leaders/politicians will start to engage in intellectual debate.

Kanu just chickened out; called Igbokwe a slave and refused the debate.

DerideGull:
If this jackass called Igbokwe knows his stuff and has a tinny honesty in his empty skull, he would have stated to debate Nnamdi Kanu anywhere on earth. This dumbass donkey has already exhibited the sign of weakness on a debate that has no chance of taking place on earth. What a drunken nincompoop.

clarocuzioo:
Why will an igbo man choose to debate against Nnamdi Kanu outside igboland I challenge Joe Igbokwe let the debate be held in his father's compound let's test his relevance in Igbo land from there, rubbish.

So that the mob of hungry angry brainwashed NK worshippers would tear his head off abii?... Why dont you ask NK to go to the streets of Kano to hold the debate?

Governor demolishes market because the market people welcomed Kanu?

What kind of imbecilic story is this?... The worst part of all these nonsense propaganda is how the people swallow it all up and begin to jump in jubilation. How exactly did the Igbo nation allow this thing called IPOB to completely destroy its psyche?

planetx:
In a country with good medical facilities that injury shouldn't result in a fatality.

Even in a country with bad health care services like Nigeria, that injury seems too minor to be fatal. Only God knows how badly they messed it all up.

The Nigerian health care system, only God can help us. Taking a look at that injury, there's just no way something like that should kill a person. But only God knows the kind of treatment and care she received.