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EducationRe: ‘Expel Students With Less Than 0.5 CGPA’ – Anthony Onwuka, Minister Of State by obailala(m): 10:30am On Mar 27, 2017
The statement is coming from the minister of state for education, Prof Anthony Anwuka, a professor of education and a former vice chancellor of a university. Interesting how the media spins these reports around making it sound like this is coming from the president himself.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 10:22am On Mar 27, 2017
felixomor:
Just look at someone who just spun conspiracy theories and even admitted it calling someone who is talking based on facts "gullible"....


Is is that people like u nowadays dont check the meaning of words before using them?

And please keep quiet on demi god blah blah
Nobody said Nobody is infallible, in short that us not the topic here....

Someone told a lie, her father came out to deny he wasnt part of it, yet u hanged on and keptbon hoping as if u were waiting for "rapture"..

Now the mother and sister came out, u r still blabbing conspiracy theories.....


And u call urself a Christian for depending on conspiracy theories....

Gerrarahia my friend...
Did you just say you are talking based on facts?... What facts?... How are you sure what you saying are sacred facts?.. Because you are also an omniscient and omnipresent demi-god who knows it all and who is everywhere right?

Maybe you don't know the meaning of the word 'theories' so I would replace that with the word 'possibilities' for your easy comprehension. In this situation, there are plenty possibilities and I know this because I am a smart and sensible person. There is a possibility that BOTH parties are lying or hiding something and once again, because I'm a smart person, I will not rush into believing any one side of the story until I can confirm I have heard it all.

Then again, you think it is unchristian-like for me to think there are different possibilities?... You claim I am believing in conspiracy theories and that is unchristian-like?.. What sort of shallow reasoning is this?.... I'm sorry boy, I believe that in every such case, there are plenty possibilities (or possible 'theories' if you like).

If you had half of the wisdom you claim to have, then you will understand the point being made that even the father denying or the mother and sister denying are not enough proof that the girl may completely be lying. I am not saying I believe the girl 100% but telling me that the mother coming out to deny her is a holy grail evidence of her lying about every single thing she said, then that's just ridiculous myopia and gullibility. I don't think it would be wise for me to continue this argument with your type whose imagination and judgement is entrapped in a tiny bubble. Good day!
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 8:58am On Mar 27, 2017
felixomor:
All your arguments are dried up obviously...
You dont have points again that is whyvu resort to ad hominem .....

Your criticism and hatred of nigerian pastors is what dragged you to this story....
Having seen that u people have been disgraced u start holding on to straws to save you from drowning....

Its a sorry sight.

All the points u have stated above has no single fact point to back it up.
All are assumptions.

Yet u call me "brainwashed"

For your notice, The girl was arrested while trying to blackmail.....you are so ignorant u couldnt read that...
Yet u call us "brainwashed"

Besides if she was arrested unlawfully by now,
Her lawyer, keyamo would have been talking about suing for unlawful detention..

Oh, so now u also claim its no longer police that went to sapele, its overzealous members that went there.....
I am sure they must have also gone to her sister and father.....

On this thread alone, your tongue has wagged almost a minimum of 3 different conspiracy theories......

You r a disgrace. Honestly
I dont hate pastors, not at all, I am a Christian myself. I have also not said or accused the pastor of doing anything (if you can read and discern, I'm sure you should have noticed that). I'm glad you noticed that I've been spinning different possible and opposing theories on this thread, supporting the girl at some point and supporting the pastor at other points. That is because there are several possibilities and until the full story truly comes out, my mind is always open to entertain different possibilities (I am not a gullible person or a person who jumps into conclusions).

What I hate and what I've been speaking about on this thread is blind followership and the kind of ridiculous gullibility people like yourself have been exhibiting on this thread. I guess my crime to you is not believing that pastors are infallible demi-gods who can do no harm. Sorry bro, I'm not like you, I am not a gullible sheep, I know pastors are humans too with blood flowing through their veins but that doesnt mean I hate pastors as you claim.

I repeat that the case in question has many possibilities and I cant make any conclusions based on the information available to the public so far.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 8:36am On Mar 27, 2017
LeSaint:
You may be right there, to some extent. Are you a lawyer, to say the evidence hold no weight?
Be sure of one thing; if Keyamo is still defending this girl, then you may be surprised at the turn it will take.
Don't forget again that Pastor's camp started maligning the powers that be with his anti-Fulani campaign. So don't expect any high level intervention for him
The girl may be getting subtle support from some political quarters, but no notable person so far is supporting her except of course her lawyer from Keyamo chambers which she HIRED. The day she doesnt pay that lawyer is the day Keyamo chambers will pull out of the case (that's why I got confused when the pastor kept blasting Keyamo at first instead of directing the vitupetations to his accuser).

Again regarding Keyamo defending the girl, there are hundreds of other Keyamos in Nigeria and the pastor can afford to bring 50 of such to the court room if need be. Keyamo has served as EFCC lawyer for a while but still hasnt been able to win any reasonable convictions and that is because he's always faced with defendants who bring 100 keyamos to court.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 8:27am On Mar 27, 2017
slimshady1983:
Some people talk with so much confidence as if they were there while the pastor is making love to the girl. Well, people should learn to say what they know and desist from what they don't know. A suspect remains innocent until proven guilty. Nobody saw them having sex, there's no video, photo, etc to attest to that. For thos blaming the woman for coming out openly to apologise to the pastor should get their facts right. She's the mother of the little called stephanie. If stephanie was a good girl, th mother will surely defend her, but the mother knows that she's wayward and cannot be trusted, that's why she took that bold step. One thing I know for sure is; the truth will always prevail. Do not judge so u will not be judged. What goes around comes around. #justmycandidopinion
There are several reasons why the mother might have done what she did, and what you has said above (bolded) could be one of them. But then again, have you imagined that the poor mother may have taken that bold step just in a bid to protect her little girl from potential danger?... With the mighty influence of the pastor and with his thousands and even millions of followers praying against and some even threatening the girl publicly, everyone knows the girl is playing with fire and could certainly be burned. So you do not think the mother may just be taking that bold step to protect her stubborn daughter?
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 8:20am On Mar 27, 2017
felixomor:
I have carefully bolded all your assumptions from your "snow white heart" for you to read well.

1. She was visited in a market place .
A market that has hundreds if not thousands of people with camera phones and yet none of such altercation video made its way to the popular social media.
Yet your "snow white heart" believes lipsrsealed

And what of the girl's sister(who is carrying a baby) that also followed the mother to the Church?
Your "snow white" heart also thinks that one was also arrested and intimidated, and maybe her husband too... undecided

Furthermore, in real life, lets even assume he is guilty!
Will any body with common sense send people to go and arrest the relative of the person who is accusing him, in broad daylight at a market place?
Will that not be an automatic give away ?
So your "snow white" heart reasons that the "guilty" apostle would be that foolish?

So much for "snow white" lipsrsealed


2. The pastor has followers all around the globe who of course accompany him everytime even in airports and hotels, yet your "snow white heart" reasoned that he left these beautiful followers who surround him 247 probably disguised as a lunatic and went to a prostitute joint to look for this girl......
The girl even claimed she was the one preparing his messages and your "snow white heart" thinks its probably true.... lipsrsealed


3. Your "snow white heart" also reasons that u could tell a lie to protect your daughter even if it means betraying your kinsmen who were reported to have supported the marriage introduction of the supposed suitor called apostle Suleiman......hmmmmm grin


4. Your "snow white heart" even says "common sense" may show the mother is doing these out of pretence yet your snow white heart refused to apply the common sense to know that the girl claimed she was pregnant yet has refused to show any third party health related evidence such as hospital receipt or doctors statement that helped her to take care of the pregnancy she claim she had........
Or u think pregnancy in such countries where she resides in just goes away like that?

Hmmmm "your snow white heart"is really working...... grin
Men come to a market to talk to a woman and you expect people to suddenly bring out smart phones to start recording conversations of the people?... Did the story say she was arrested or whisked away by force?... okay let's assume she was force taken by force and that a scene was made when, for a market probably filled with old mamas in Sapele, you expect the old women in that locality to all have smart phones and you expect them to damn the consequences to start videoing a scuffle that doesn't concern them to show felixomor proof that some people visited the girl's mum right?

Are you aware the girl in question was arrested by the police on the orders of the pastor?... but you think it is not possible for the same police (or whoever) to visit the girl's mum?....

With the hundreds of thousands of diehard followers the man has, it's not even far fetched for some overzealous supporters to go all the way to sapele (without being sent) to threaten the woman that her daughter is playing with fire and may be burned. If you don't have the common sense to understand that under such a situation, the woman in a bid to just save and protect her daughter might deny everything she knows and apologise on her daughters behalf just to save her daughter from the mighty forces she's meddling with, then I'm sorry, your case of naivety is legendary.

Then you think it is impossible for a man to leave beautiful associates and follow a not beautiful razz and sexy lady?... Are you even a man to say this and are you potent?... Your own understanding of 'men' is that a man must 'follow' only his beautiful associates around him if he must 'follow' any woman?.... I'm not sure I understand the sense in this your assumption.

And then again, you claim the girl was pregnant and so therefore she must have paper evidence that she was pregnant becaise she lives in Canada?.... Abeg am I even talking to an adult here? undecided

Anyway, all I can say is that you are just another ridiculously naive, gullible and probably brainwashed Nigerian 'religious' person.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 11:15pm On Mar 26, 2017
brotherly:
Bros forget story .

The day apostle enters that witness box . matter don spoil be that . except someone like keyamo decides to back down . he is not an easy meat to chew so all this big man trend in Nigerian courts may not hold then . besides never underestimate the kind of sympathy Stephanie can get from unexpected quarters as more facts are dished out.

I have said it and still repeat that an out of court settlement is the best option for apostle . he has to do it fast .

Ogboju has limits
Bros, ogboju nor fit fight money... how much the girl get?... Funny how people forget the kind of country they come from. First of all, the pastor will not even go close to any court, let alone witness box. This isnt the first time a pastor is having a case in Nigeria and this wouldn't be the last time a case against a pastor will die a natural death because pastors in Nigeria are infallible demi-gods.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 10:50pm On Mar 26, 2017
LeSaint:
So, since 2015, she could have been travelling from Canada to the man's different crusades with intent to have their passports get coincident immigration stamps, so that she could use it to blackmail him in 2017? Remember we agreed to reason objectively here, me & you.

On the amount of evidence she has, as distinct from that we have been shown so far, remember the girl said she lost her laptop mysteriously on arrival in Lagos sometime ago. But, I believe that what she has put out already is quite damning enough. This is because all she needs to establish in court is that there existed an amorous relationship between them. Don't forget that Suleman must have used his real names to book some of the hotels the girl claims they've been to, both here and outside the country, and court could subpoena for those.
Once that relationship is established, any other claim of the girl can't be questioned. Especially the pregnancy, the poisoned juice, and the miscarriage in a Canadian hospital.

In fact the last person I'd like to be in their shoes right now is pastor Suleman.
It beats me hollow how he allowed this to get to this point.
Seems like you totally underestimate the power, influence and cult followership the man wields compared to the girl. Seems like you also forget the kind of country you come from where the 'big men, never lose court cases. Have you ever asked yourself why our rich looters never get convicted?...

I still state it again, the things the girl has submitted as evidence so far hold no weight.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 10:19pm On Mar 26, 2017
iswallker:
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Can't stop laughing..... grin

The girl jus started following Suleiman all over... grin...so she can use it against him..she also transfered money to herself from sulemans account... huh

The photo was shopped... grin grin...is it that its not suleman or they put his head on another's body...how did the Photoshop happen.. grin

Am not understanding again ooo... grin
In a legal case, those things cannot be used as substantive evidence. That's my simple point.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 9:12pm On Mar 26, 2017
LeSaint:
Okay, let's start with marriage intro issue. It was Keyamo's lawyers who put that out initially, following the arrest and detention of the girl by the pastor. It was an embellishment of the probably hurried brief they got at first. When Stephanie was released from jail, she was asked to confirm that, and she said the pastor had met only her mother when she took her to the pastor for introduction, and the pastor gave her mom money. Some armed men went to intimidate the mom yesterday and recorded her saying she never met pastor Suleman, but later when a lawyer for her daughter called her later and asked her again, she told the lawyer that yes, she and her daughter had been to see Suleman in his church, even tho she wasn't a member of that church. You can access that audio post on this forum, posted this morning. She said it wasn't a marriage intro visit, because that's not tradition. So, it wasn't Stephanie that claimed marriage introduction, but her lawyers who misunderstood her brief.

Regarding the visa entry stamp, you called it "watery", because she could have been stalking the pastor. Seriously?
Stalking him while he transfers money directly thru banks (pastor admitted this), and thru informal, but traceable, transfers?
On the contrary, the coincident port entry stamping of their passports is a major evidence, and stalking theory is the watery one!

Now, taking a look at the video conferences, I don't see any acting on her part, rather I saw a girl initially overwhelmed and scared, following the harrowing experiences she had in jail.
Then she became more confident - thanks to her lawyers. But thru it all her accounts were fluent, cogent, and and unrehearsed, and from the heart. I can't fault any part of her testimony. If you can, let's hear it.
She is someone without inhibitions, which may come thru as offensive, but majority of this generation of youths are like that.
But that doesn't mean she is out to deceive, or "blackmail" as most people claim who are on the other side. That she or some people behind her would sit down to photoshop stuff to post on social media is absurd. To what end?
Don't forget that she didn't start this show - pastor did. And, he only knows why. Maybe he thought the micky finn juice would kill the girl outright so that her chapter would be closed for good. Because, if it was meant for abortion only, then he should have been prepared to settle the girl good thereafter. No woman would just keep quiet and walk away from that.

Anyhow, the case is in court, and we'll all see more clearly as it unfolds.
Like I said earlier, I just have a feeling her stories are not completely true. So in that case, I would have expected some real damning evidences from her camp. That is not me saying she is lying with the evidence she's produced so far, but I believe what she's produced isnt convincing enough if tendered in a legal scenario. Pastor's camp can easily claim the pictures are photoshopped, also the immigration stamps can also easily be dismissed; the pastor travels with an entourage and everyone knows where he's travelling to. So she could have easily just travelled along to the man's different crusades.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 7:09pm On Mar 26, 2017
felixomor:
If u cant answer even from the contents of this thread whether she lied or not at least concerning her family?

Then Sorry to say, your heart is not clean... undecided
When I say I don't believe a story 100%, it simply means that while some parts of the story may be true, others aren't. I would suppose this should be common sense. My heart is as clean as snow but obviously, you must be as gullible as a toddler or just simply myopic to think that what we have on this thread is convincing evidence enough to conclude she is lying 100% and that the pastor is saying the truth 100%.

The pastor in question is a very powerful and influential man with a multitude of die-hard followers all around the globe. He has the influence, he has the money, he has the power, he has the followership, he has it all. Judging from the vicious attacks originating from some of his die-hard followers even online on anyone who dares to speak against the man, I don't need much more than common sense to know that the poor parents of the girl could have been threatened by some overzealous followers of the man. It's been reported recently that the poor mother of the girl was even visited by some strangers (some of them armed and possibly policemen) in her market place in Sapele sometime last week before she made her video denying her daughter's story. Now common sense tells me the mother may be making this appearance (in the church) under duress (threats) or she may just be doing so just to kill the case and protect her daughter seeing that the case actually puts the life of her daughter at risk (I could do same if she was my daughter too).

Once again, my heart is as clear as snow, but I am a rational and wise person who wouldn't just jump-into quick conclusions based on some public stunts I see in the video above. Thanks
PoliticsRe: Senate Crisis Gets Messier by obailala(m): 6:46pm On Mar 26, 2017
These rogues should just get down to business and pass the bloody 2017 budget before they continue with their nonsense dance of shame.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 6:44pm On Mar 26, 2017
felixomor:
She lied?
Yes or No...?
When I say a story doesn't add up, it means I dont believe the story 100%. So yeah, I don't believe her story 100% and I also don't believe the other party's story 100%.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 6:10pm On Mar 26, 2017
felixomor:
Call a spade by its name,
When u mean "holes in her story"....
Do u mean "she lied"?

What do u mean by "holes"?
Her story doesnt add up... unfortunately, some of the pastor's story doesnt seem to add up too.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 6:08pm On Mar 26, 2017
LeSaint:
Good, Bro. I like objectivity.
But let's reason this out objectively.
What are those "holes" you see in Stephanie story?
The girl's story sounds very inconsistent and cant hold water. For starters, I dont believe it's possible for the pastor to go to her parents for any introductions as she claims; no popular pastor would be that silly. Then just taking a look at her so called press conferences, she's been a very bad actress. In this case, I would have expected her to have gathered some 'proper' evidence before even going public with her claims. Claiming that her passport has similar stamps as the pastor's, that's very watery evidence; she could have as well just stalked the pastor by travelling to wherever he went to. Also the screenshots of her video calls with the pastor, while I must confess they totally looked real (trust me when I say I have a good eye for these things), there's always still that 5% chance that the pictures were photoshopped very professionally.

At the end of the day, I can almost conclude she's trying to blackmail the man to scratch some cash, but what I cant vouch for is the pastor's total innocence in this case. While I believe it is possible for there to be smoke without fire, the truth is that more often than not, when there is smoke, there is usually fire. And yeah, the allegation of the pastor being the 'registered owner' of the SUV of that Daniella actress was real, I and several others personally confirmed the name from the website then before it was removed. So yeah, the case get as e be...
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 5:35pm On Mar 26, 2017
felixomor:
Yes, what u r seeing on this page is evidence she lied...
That is enough for any law coirt to nail her already
...
Now bring your evidence....or accept that u guys are fools...
Not so fast man... I am not making any conclusions on this case because I am way way smarter than passing judgement without getting the full gist; I am not taking any sides on this matter so kindly count me out of this your needless juvenile 'you guys are fools' game.

Regarding the issue, these are my thoughts: While I believe the girl has a lot of holes in her story, I also think the pastor's defence is not too convincing. And then again, the girl's mum or dad coming to speak against the girl doesnt necessarily stand as convincing evidence to any discerning mind; the pastor in question is a very powerful man with hundreds of thousands of die hard followers. Since the matter has even been polarised to pdp vs apc matter, the man's followers are even much more.

Now there's a possibility the mother could have been coerced to do what she's currently doing. With the vocal viciousness of some of the man's followers around the world (and even here on Nairaland), I wouldnt be surprised if one or 2 overzealous followers may have threatened the mum to warrant her current public outcry/denial of her daughter for the sake of peace. In fact I saw a thread on Nairaland today where it was said that the woman was visited by several strangers (some armed) in her market place in sapele a few days back prior to her making the video denying her daughter.

So yeah, while I wouldnt say I believe the girl, the fact is, I dont also think I can also vouch for the pastor 100% irrespective of all these things you might think is evidence.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephanie Otobo’s Mother At Omega Fire Ministry To Beg Apostle Suleman (Pics) by obailala(m): 4:44pm On Mar 26, 2017
felixomor:
Please u have any evidence the man slept with her?
If u dont have evidence, i will know u r a fool...

Sorry to say
Before you call someone a fool because they don't have evidence, do you yourself have any evidence to the contrary?

Cant you see you are also equally guilty of the exact same crime of 'hasty conclusions' for whixh yoi called the other giy a FOOL?
PoliticsRe: Name The Worst Three Performing Governors In Nigeria by obailala(m): 2:50pm On Mar 26, 2017
Considering the massive allocation they receive, I can say the worst governors are:
1. Dickson of Bayelsa
2. Okowa of Delta

And thwn by popular vote:
3. Ortom of Benue
PoliticsRe: Name The Worst Three Performing Governors In Nigeria by obailala(m): 2:46pm On Mar 26, 2017
TARABA911:
SOMEONE SHOULD COME TO TARABA AND SEE THE LIZARD WE HAVE AS GORVERNOR
grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Name The Worst Three Performing Governors In Nigeria by obailala(m): 2:36pm On Mar 26, 2017
Ashleydolls:
I think Imo state governor will top the list
On what basis?... because he is APC I guess?
CrimeRe: 16-Year-Old Boy Shot Dead By Policeman In Imo. Graphic Photos by obailala(m): 3:23pm On Mar 25, 2017
Sometimes one doesnt even know whether disarming the Nigerian police completely can be a solution to these excesses. undecided
PoliticsRe: Dino Melaye Reportedly Assassinated A Witness- U.S Government & Sahara Reporters by obailala(m): 1:57pm On Mar 25, 2017
Lol... and the fight gets dirtier... dem don open Dino yansh finish... Only God knows what's coming next. grin
TV/MoviesRe: Photos Of Tboss' Lookalike Sister Wendy, Her Daughter & Boyfriend Of 10 Years by obailala(m): 12:13pm On Mar 25, 2017
Holatunde007:
If those pictures are real
I see no reason she would be contesting for 25M
What's in the pictures that makes you think she must be wealthy?
PoliticsRe: Ndigbo Must Focus On Local And Regional Politics - Soludo by obailala(m): 11:32am On Mar 25, 2017
O bu onye awusa n'achi n'alaigbo?

Words of wisdom from the prof. If only the multitude of brothers brainwashed by the ipob ideology can ask themselves this all too important question, then maybe the energy concencentrated on fighting and blaming 'others' could be focused on more productive causes.
BusinessRe: Dollar Drops Below N400/$ For First Time In Seven Months by obailala(m): 11:12am On Mar 25, 2017
tuniski:
Good u know it is higher. That means in the economics and finance of the year's activities the price is not a negative variance!
I ask again, since u are stuck on oil price what then was the value of naira when oil price was 12$ in 1999?
U are being clever by half!
Lol... bros, now I can conclude that u no sabi book! grin

So after all my explanations on how the demand for the dollar at a particular time is the primary driving force for the value of the Naira, after all my explanations that the demand for the dollar today is over 10 times more than what it was in 1999, you still do not get it do you?

You still cannot figure out why the Naira was more valuable in 1999 compared to present day?....

Kindly go back to SS1 and this time, pay more attention in economics class when the topic of demand and supply is taught. I doubt I can help you.
PoliticsRe: Billionaire Ifeanyi Uba celebrates wife, shares throwback photo of their wedding by obailala(m): 10:45am On Mar 25, 2017
This man na fine man... but seems the money bloated him so much.. lipsrsealed
FamilyRe: They Leave Me The Moment I Tell Them My Story. Should I Hide The Truth? by obailala(m): 10:04am On Mar 25, 2017
chiomababy22:
I had a child 8 years ago. Ever since then, having a long lasting relationship is a big problem because they leave me with the excuse of my child been an issue. My last relationship has left me shattered and the last thing i want to do is deny my baby. Am confused pls friends what do you advise i do? Am not getting any younger. Thanks as i await you comments.
I would borrow and modify the words of Tyrion Lannister, "whatever you think is your weakness (existence of your child in this case), wear it like an armour wherever you go, and it will never be used to hurt you."

In essence, never hide the existence of your child, the men would find out anyway, and would be very disappointed that you lied, and would not act like the child dont exist. So wherever you go, your child should be your first mention, a lot of Nigerian men aren't comfortable getting married to single mums; sometimes even when the men dont mind, their family becomes a stumbling block. A friend of mine just called this morning telling me his dad has bluntly refused him marrying a girl he loves all because she has a child.

But then, there are a few men who wouldnt mind (minority), so in order to save yourself the heartbreak and heart ache, wear your child like an armour and you will more easily attract the right kind of men that don't mind.

BusinessRe: Dollar Drops Below N400/$ For First Time In Seven Months by obailala(m):
tuniski:
Just tell me something; was the budgeted benchmark crude price below or above under the prevailing govt of GEJ and Buhari? Therein lies your answer! Long epistle and quotations only help to confuse those who lack capacity for discern.
Budgeted benchmark is $42, oil price today is $52, but the oil price 3 years ago was over $100.

Now I'm sure you went through elementary school?.... SO please tell us, $100 and $52, which is bigger?... Does it matter whether $52 is greater than $42?.... Is it greater than $100?... In the answer to these simple logical questions lies your intelligent answer.
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Calls For The Release Of Kanu by obailala(m): 6:56pm On Mar 24, 2017
Calling for the release of Kanu is now the latest political gimmick by every politician and political aspirant. From Orji Kalu to Soludo to Utomi to Peter Obi this morning and now Rochas grin cheesy

Abeg make dem release that guy, he's now used to the prison and comfortable in it. The longer he stays, it makes no difference anymore.
BusinessRe: Dollar Drops Below N400/$ For First Time In Seven Months by obailala(m): 6:02pm On Mar 24, 2017
tuniski:
At no time were we refining the crude products we need since 1999 even beyond.
In purchasing power parity, this current govt has depreciated and eroded purchasing power like never before in our history.

Let us just take it from May 2015 sef, tell me what has significantly changed on the demand and supply sides. Mind u, don't dwell on crude price cos budgeted benchmark have been exceeded.therefore we should be having net savings. Similarly, we are in a saintly govt where corruption is banished. Therefore, let us for the purpose of this discourse admit that 70% of revenue weree stolen under tthe thieving govt of GEJ alone.
We still have the exchange rate @197 official and 216 parallel market.

Remember, the reserve was used to defend the naira and 30bn$ was still left for buhari. So with just 30% of the level of revenue under GEJ, we should have at least price stability,fx stability, job stability and growing economy. Sadly, we have everything upside down, why?
Lol... Quit trying broo... you keep sounding funny the more you try.

You say a lot of forex was used to defend the value of the Naira under GEJ (this isn't news). But what I find weird and amusing is how you then expected the Naira value to remain the same after the nation ran out of forex to keep defending the Naira; you put the entire blame on Buhari even when you know he inherited next to nothing in the reserves to keep defending the naira.

You then go ahead to talk of oil price being above benchmark?... Bro abeg save us this embarrassment, this is commonsensical. Oil was $100 before and today it is roaming between $50 - $55. It doesnt matter if the budget benchmark is $20, bottom line is that the inflow of forex into the country Nigeria is now roughly less than half of what it was previously.

Regarding the exchange rate again, it dropped from N160 to roughly N220 when oil price began to crash under GEJ. It would certainly have been worse but the CBN like you said was still constantly spending huge sums to defend the Naira, hence it didnt get worse than N220.

Chart below shows how the reserves dropped rapidly because the CBN/GEJ kept struggling to defend the Naira with funds from the reserves hoping that the oil price drop will reverse soon. Meanwhile oi price during this nosediving period was still averagely above $65/barrel.
https://cdn.tradingeconomics.com/charts/nigeria-foreign-exchange-reserves.png?s=nigeriaforexcres&v=201701311227t&d1=20140724&d2=20150624
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/foreign-exchange-reserves

I don't dwell on empty rhetorics which is the typical mainstay of most Nigerian overnight politico-economic analysts, I prefer showing facts and verifiable figures. Of course since the oil prices refused to pick-up and with reserves dropping so low, it would have been foolish for the CBN to continue with the weekly defence of the Naira and risking a Venezuelan situation, hence the forex restrictions started which eventually tumbled the Naira to record low levels. I don't need to remind you that oil prices kept crashing after Buhari came in till it got to a bottom resistance at $28.

So Yes! you can keep blaming Buhari for the major Naira crash because he unfortunately was the president at the time when the INEVITABLE worst (which NOI even warned of) eventually occurred. But then, discerning minds who give a damn about the underlying reasons behind the Naira crash (and who don't rely on half-baked politico-economic beer parlour analysis) know much better. Thanks
BusinessRe: Dollar Drops Below N400/$ For First Time In Seven Months by obailala(m): 5:01pm On Mar 24, 2017
tuniski:
I was expecting in your insistent on demand and supply, u will at least acknowledge that our population wasn't 20m in 1999 and now 200m. Again that, the demand by purchasing power of citizens was actually an achievement not a burden.
Yes, we have increased demand but so we have increased supply from diaspora remittances and FDI even export too.
Again, we have had far higher volume sale of crude now than 1999.
So when u try to skew the facts do understand that others will call u out.
Lol... Just give up already! You keep shooting yourself on the foot even more with your arguments. So you actually know our population has increased seriously?... You also know the wage bill (both minimum wage and number of people under govt employ) has increased monumentally since 1999? Yet you want to compare notes between 1999 and 2017?

Stage 1: A man earns N20k monthly, he buys a plate of food for N30, but luckily he doesn't need to buy fuel because he refines them in his backyard. He struggles to survive.

Stage 2: The man suddenly begins to earn N100k, wow! but then, a plate of food rises to N100 and he also stops refining his fuel but now 'buys' it. He still struggles to survive, But at least the world sees him wearing nice clothes and eating better food.

Stage 3: The man still buys food for N100 and he still buys fuel cos he can't refine anymore, and then his income drops to less than 50k. He still wants the world to see him wearing nice clothes and eat good food.

If the man struggled in Stage 2, do you think he would struggle in Stage 3 or not?... Enough of this your desperation to just give this a political explanation. This is common sense economics that even a JSS1 student should be able to discern. There is no basis to compare 1999 to 2017.

...and finally, even though I don't think this is relevant, Nigeria isn't selling more oil now than in 1999; average oil production in 1999 wasn't less than 2million bpd.
CrimeRe: Soldiers Kill Pupil, Injure Others While Rescuing Herdsmen by obailala(m): 4:33pm On Mar 24, 2017
otitokoroleti:
av made my point from post except dat u gat glaucoma!
Otito, gbafuo gaa ñuo ogwu gi! I am done with you.

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