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God help us! hopefully some disgruntled elements who want to perpetuate our sufferings don't go blow up the place or the pipelines delivering raw material. If the refineries can work at just 50% efficiency, then a lot of foreign exchange expended importing fuel would be saved and the Naira will be on a rebound.

Lol,, what kind of dirty story is this?

EternalTruths:
You mean Buhari is happy repairing a one lane express road

Tell your ancient grandfather to expand that highway to 6 lanes if he means business

Tufiakwa for your grade of reasoning. This road has been a nightmare for ages and now there is a plan to fix it by a buhari govt which is supposed to hate the SS and SE but yet you still think it isnt worth smiling about?... but you actually smile and eulogize a jonathan who despite earning the highest revenue of any Nigerian leader didnt do a thing about these roads. God help you!

Interesting!.. Hopefully it works out as planned, it would drive other sleeping state governments to wake up from their slumber.

Whynotthetruth:
Sincerely, you are irritating me ...For the benefit of any innocent soul that may be reading this...

1)2nd Niger bridge is PPP project but with a provision according to advice of consultant to FG to provide 30billion SPEED UP or Cataclysmic fund which is to be REFUNDABLE...This is to ensure FAST completion and delivery of project within timeframe stipulated(48months)...

2) Jonathan according to available records has paid OVER 18.7billion of this speed up refundable fund...which is over 60-70% ...Part of payment was sourced from Sure-p though project is under management of SWF which has over $2billion as invested by Jonathan administration too...

3)The company has to design, build, finance, manage this project for 25years before handing over to FG...to recoup their investment. Meaning cost of construction is 100% their headache...and they will recover their money by putting tollgates on the road for 25years...before handing it back to government.

4) Finally, Enugu Onitsha expressway runs from Niger bridge to Enugu metropolis. Onitsha end has been fully reconstructed till around Nkwelle Ezunaka under Jonathan administration...Also, Awka axis has been reconstructed too under Jonathan administration... Obiano who's Anambra state Governor is seeking for FG approval to use PPP to finish up the remaining portions(Awkuzu axis, Amansea to 9th mile corner axis)...So far, Buhari is yet to grant approval...why? I don't know...

If we are to go back to the fons et origo of our back and forth argument, you claimed GEJ had fully paid off the FG's N30bn share / counterpart fund for the 2nd Niger bridge. I simply pointed out your error, but instead of you to honourably accept correction and move on (or even just ignore me), out of your desperation to paint Uncle Jo as a saint, you converted a simple correction to a needless back and forth debate. And you actually feel I don't feel irritated by these your needless rants and epistles?... Who cares if the private investors will pay back the FG it's counterpart fund after 25 years?... The facts of the matter is simple and straightforward, the agreement is for the FG to provide N30bn while private investors provide the remainder for the project to be executed.

Whynotthetruth:
It seems you love the sound of your voice even when you are not making sense...

For you to say that Enugu Onitsha expressway isn't done to some extent already under Jonathan administration shows that it is either that you are mentally challenged or you re schizophrenic....What a celebration of ignorance and arrogance

Goodnight!!!

Lol... Wonderful kind of characters one gets to meet online everyday. What exactly is the meaning of that text you quoted there and how was that supposed to support your argument?.... You claimed the project was paid for fully by GEJ, then I proved you wrong with evidence and you then agreed reluctantly that GEJ had actually paid only 60%. And then after a while, just like the Gambian president (Yammeh), you made a U-turn claiming that the project is 100% private financed. And when I pointed out your confusion, you pasted a quote which stated that the project is a PPP, but you obviously aren't able to still explain how it being a PPP exempts the FG and makes it 100% private. Confusion galore!

Meanwhile why dont you go to the middle of one of the numerous gullies that have laced the onitsha enugu road and tell commuters that GEJ has done the road to some extent?... Okay sorry I forgot, after GEJ built half of the road (as part of the 25,000km of roads deluded folks claim his administration built), Pa Buhari came in and used shovels to destrot the roads again.

Very embarrassing

Whynotthetruth:
1)Don't allow obailala meet you criticizing Buhari

2) Correct your No 3 point...it is the fault of executive viz Buhari not lawmakers plz...

3)7.7trillion budget which APC and Buhari mischievously claims is highest budget is BIG LIE... because in terms of value; 2016 budget which wasn't implemented Upto 10% is around $30billion while 2017 is around $24billion. so where's the increase? we rather had reduction. FEAR APC

4)Other points are germane

I am in 100% agreement with the article by Henry Boyo and many other of his statements. I am not like some mumu wailing zombies I know who believe that their fallen hero is an omnipotent and infallible saint even against proven evidence staring them in the face which proves contrary.

Whynotthetruth:
1)See thread here where fellow zombies are wishing for YOUWIN against Buhari's scam copy cat program https://www.nairaland.com/3527064/boi-yes-programme-big-deceit

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2)If intelligent commenters like Soludo, Kperogi, BBC said Buhari is the genesis of recession in Nigeria, who am I to listen to fanatic obailala?

Point out where Soluudo categorically stated that buhari is the genesis of Nigeria's recession or forever sharrap and gerrarrahia!

3) Payment for SPEED UP of program is OPTIONAL. just a caveat From a leader who wants the job done and done fast... something others rejected!!! Project financing is 100% private...borrow a brain boy

I even doubt a borrowed brain would work for you where yours has failed cos the background peripheral wiring appears to also be faulty. Project financing is 100% private so what is the essence of the FG's counterpart fund?.... From saying GEJ had paid 100% for the funding to now saying the project is 100% private, can't you see the effect of your poor wiring?

4) Southeast has to wait hopefully before budget year ends...why other regions don't need such patience? bigots everywhere

Life na turn by turn, when the time has been completed and nothing at all is done, that's when I would confirm there's a problem. Meanwhile if I'm a bigot for being patient, what do we tag you yourself who still worships GEJ as a saint?... A man who spent 5 years and earned the highest income by any Nigerian leader but didn't do zilch for the entire SS and SE and SW and even the north (except some measly unoccupied almajiri schools which no one attends); of course his only achievement is creating billionaires out of numerous rogues, increasing the number of private jets in the country and conceding defeat after a shameful loss, that's the kind of character you endorse and worship and you blame me for joining a movement that kicked out the canker-worms.

5)I challenge you to name any leader in Nigeria that cancelled a project at a colossal financial loss to Nigeria as Buhari did? Drop name, project and cost to Nigeria

Do you know how many governments have abandoned the multibillion dollar Ajaokuta steel plant to rotten?... From power projects to road to rail projects across the nation, you only think the biggest abandoned project that has cost the nation money is the lagos rail because it was abandoned by Buhari?... You must love Buhari so much, clap for yourself!

6) Which portion of Enugu Onitsha expressway as stated by me that was repaired or reconstructed under Jonathan administration is false? I challenge you to prove me wrong .

Even with glaring evidence to the contrary, you still insisted that half of the onitsha-enugu road was fixed by GEJ; na only God go fit judge your matter.

7) Hahahahaha...Lying is an attribute of Buhari snd supporters so I am not surprised at you. Kindly scroll through page one of this thread and see litany of vomits from your likes which made me to drop in to refute your lies. My comment wasn't even in 1st page...so how did I bring Jonathan and Southeast into the discussion or thread? Are you mentally well adjusted at all?

You shamelessly still insist that GEJ fixed half of onitsha enugu road yet you have the effrontery to accuse others of lying or of fanaticism?... Wonderful!... Obviously your case isn't even a case of normal lying because it seems you actually believe the opata that you've been spewing. That your question of mental balance should rightly be directed to you.

What's your state and tribe again? kindly tell...check my signature for mine

See ya next time

Tribalism ruins your mentality and makes one reason like a piece of trash.... I don't need to know your tribe and you don't need to know mine.

osuofia2:
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i pity you boy, so many kids on NairaLand and you are one of such kids that is making Nairaland uninteresting,because of your childish comments, if you don't have any thing to type you should shot your rotten mouth up. How do you Know that the police are not speaking the Truth? were you there? Before you quote me again you should go and learn how to compose simple sentence and how to spell ''Stupid''. for the death issue , you are already dead if you don't know.

The person you quoted only said he 'hoped the person arrested was really the culprit' and then you attacked him. I couldn't find where he said categorically that the police was lying as you accuse him of. To be honest, between you and the person you were arguing with, you are the one acting immature and extremely naive. Except you are not a Nigerian who has lived and understands Nigeria, then you should know that it is not everything you hear the police tell you that you believe 100%. I have seen with my very eyes where the police set innocent people up laying fictitious allegations on their heads and even forcing them to sign false written statements under duress after days of dehumanizing torture.

Whynotthetruth:
Nnaa, good morning... I wish you Buhari Nah joke O

1)I called your attention to Prof Kperogi article who was a more informed Buhari supporter than you; but who sincerely accepted that the recession you use daily was excuse here including in your reply of me,was caused by Buhari and is being worsened by him too... Meaning were do you get your motivation & facts from if all renowned economists from Prof Soludo etc have attributed this wahala to Buhari except obailala Who does that if not a fanatic without common sense.

I asked you pertinent questions but out of emotions you jumped into 'other issues' by shouting Prof Kperogi. That was typical a sign of emotions taking the front seat instead of objectiveness. For the recession, there are acts of Buhari that 'worsened the recession, but saying Buhari singlehandedly caused the recession is another emotional bullcrap. Nigeria was accelerating downwards into recession as at the time Buhari took over, there are FACTS and FIGURES to prove that and I can give you clear breakdowns if you need them. Only hardcore jonathanian fanatics (without common sense) still find this fact impossible to comprehend or agree that Nigeria was already in a mess when it was handed over to the new govt. The intelligent commentators (e.g. Soludo) who blamed buhari only did so because Buhari as the president is expected to get Nigeria out of the mess but he is failing to do so even as the nation keeps sinking further. Go and re-read the analysis of Soludo, and this time read beyond just the title.

2) The company building this project is to pay for it 100% and recoup their investment over 25year period. Nigeria government according to agreement or advice from consultant was to provide ONLY REFUNDABLE 30billion of which Jonathan paid over 18billion (over 60%) to catalyse or speed up the project...

Hallelluia!.... he has now agreed that Jonathan didn't paid 100%, CASE CLOSED!!! This was the only point I wanted to correct in your earlier comments but you chose to drag this argument into needless long epistles.

3) Buhari has NOT made any financial commitment to any project in southeast... including 2nd Niger bridge that involves Southeast and South-South. The bridge connects two regions equally but folks mischievously refer to only Southeast to mock her...

Out of N1.8trillion meant for capital projects, only just about N700bn has been realised and released so far in 2016 due to revenue shortfall. Hopefully some more would be released before the 'budget year' runs out.

Secondly, nobody tries to mock the SE by saying the 2nd NB belongs to the SE, that is another needless and pointless paranoid assumption. The last time I checked, it is not a hidden fact that the 2nd N-bridge is more beneficial to S-Easterners who suffer major traffic crisis especially during festive seasons and it is mainly south-easterners that have laid claim to the Niger bridge. It is the SE that has clamoured and lobbied for this bridge for ages. So how come you now interpret it as an insult or mockery if someone classifies the bridge as a SE project?... This is just a divisive opinion created and peddled by person's who are desperate to create further disaffection by inciting unbothered south-easterners into a needless conflict with other Nigerians; only shallow minds will fall for this absolutely meaningless bait.

4)I get your point... Buhari can abandon the project just like he did in Lagos in 1983/4 for metro rail at a huge cost that would seen completion of project. He loves to repeat history just like he's given us recession now same fit he achieved in 1983/4. Let him go on!!!

Oh yes, your anti-buhari genes are very dominant here. But may I remind you that Buhari isn't the first Nigerian leader that has abandoned a project leading to a waste of the already invested resources. Every single Nigerian leader is guilty of that.

5)Amen...but I don't peddle lies like most of you...and worst of all, you guys rarely leave your enclave. I stated even portions that have been done under Jonathan administration on that road. Travel and See bro Obiano has asked for PPP for remaining portion but the bigots refused to approve so far . What a bunch!!!

You don't peddle lies but you just recently claimed that Goodluck Jonathan has fixed half of the Onitsha-Enugu road. And with this sort of wonderful personality, you dare to call someone else a fanatic?

6) What's title of this thread again? Who and what brought Jonathan in? Is he president? The obsession of SW with Jonathan and Igbo cum their hatred for the duo won't allow them think straight. What did OBJ achieve for SW in 8years? Do they despise him as much as they despise the man who had highest volume of visible projects? What prompted same bunch to protest against subsidy removal under Jonathan and support it under Buhari if not hate and bigotry? Who lost at the end? is it in Southeast that pots of soup are being stolen? and states converted to IDP camps? Btw how much was crude under OBJ vis a vis Buhari? What's volume of naira available to them since we run naira economy? OBJ NEVER had half the amount available to Buhari. It is for this reason I referred you to Prof Kperogi article just as I referred you to some BBC published articles and Soludo article in the past yet you still spit trash What has Buhari achieved in 2,years of ruling Nigeria aside the helipad in daura and frustration of Nigerians?

Firstly, you were the one who brought Jonathan into this thread by blatantly lying that Jonathan had paid off 100% of the FG's counterpart fund for the project. Of course you did it to deceive your fellow Jonathanian fanatics and you received your due reward in the form of several lousy 'likes'. One annoying thing about you Jonathanians is that you always bring up stories of the past (about how GEJ was a god and saint) but when you get a commensurate response deflating your lies, you begin to wail about how apc or buhari supporters are obsessed with talking about the past (GEJ). Wake up bro! you brought it upon yourself.

I was about to wonder now why you've suddenly shifted this discussion to talk about the SW and tribe etc. But then I remembered how pathetically shallow the mentality of most Nigerian youths have degenerated, thanks to tribalism. This shallowness in mentality is the only reason why a normal human would automatically assume that anybody who doesn't lick Jonathan's balls must be from the SW. Grow up boy!

Story doesnt add up...

fuckfuckman:
Wike is not Satan APC so we the hardcore Biafrans must vote for him anytime any day.

Accroding to Ipob, if a man leaves apc today and joins pdp, he becomes a new creation and a saintly one too. Now this is the reason ipobians deserve no respect and cannot be taken seriously. There are some hardcore honorable Biafran agitators who have been steadfast for ages, but out of the present crop of noisy ipob sect members, 98% are just disgruntled jonathanian wailers who pledged allegiance to the Biafran cause only after uncle Jo lost the election. These are the same group of people who just believe pdp is God and Apc is the devil. You know yourselves

Sometimes one just wonders the difference between IPOB and PDP.

Lol... these clowns don come with their confusion again...

Whynotthetruth:
1)Engaging you sometimes is irritating because your fanaticism is nauseating most times...and makes discussion of facts boring ...
I hope you read Prof Kperogi yesterday here in this forum? Search for it if you missed it .

2)2nd Niger bridge just like Airport remodelling contracts, Abuja-Kaduna speed rail project etc all have similar if not same financial or financing model which would ensure continuation to completion of project irrespective of government in power thanks to Jonathan /NOI ingenuity.

3) Buhari irrespective of his sentiments towards southeast Nigeria can NEVER stop the project without incurring HEAVY financial sanctions for FG...hence has limited or no option At all here...It is a PPP project...Show proof of any payment by Buhari with regard to this project...Am waiting for evidence plzzzz...

Firstly by mentioning Prof Kperogi's comments on this unrelated issue, this is typically what happens when emotions take over objectivity. FYI, your own distortion of facts is equally nauseating because I only pointed out a consistent error which you made by your insistence that the last government had paid off the FULL counterpart funds for the bridge. I am waiting for you to tell me I am wrong by also providing proof that the last administration paid 100% counterpart funding for the bridge. Here's a little report proving that the counterpart fund hasn't been completed even as at August 2015, so I'm wondering what you've been blabbing about and insulting me of being irritating.
http://guardian.ng/news/nigeria/fg-disburses-n18-3b-counterpart-funds-for-second-niger-bridge/

Regarding whether the current government has made any payment for this project, I have no proof that any money has been paid but it is a known fact that somewhere around N17 was budgeted for the project in the 2016 budget. Whether the budgeted funds have been released is unknown, but funds wouldn't have been budgeted if GEJ had paid it off as you keep insisting.
http://punchng.com/n350bn-package-lagos-ibadan-expressway-2nd-niger-bridge-to-benefit/

The point I made is simple and I still insist on it, if the current government chooses to abandon those projects, they will abandon them. This isn't the first time in Nigeria's history we've seen administrations abandoning major projects started by predecessors even with huge losses to resources. Wake up and smell the coffee, we are in Nigeria not some developed or ideal society, stop thinking naively.

4) APC government promised Southeast Nigeria to build 2nd Niger bridge that is not tolled against what Jonathan has to offer them(PPP)...Did they fulfill the promise? ALL past Nigeria presidents campaigned and promised 2nd Niger bridge(OBJ did in both 1st $ 2nd term); but ONLY Jonathan did something tangible and visible there. Why won't they love him?

5) Southeast has so many FG roads in sorry state...if Buhari is responsible as you wish us to believe, why hasn't any been finished? Even Enugu Onitsha expressway was half done under Jonathan administration(Onitsha, Awka axis etc). Two(2) solid years into Buhari administration and absolutely NOTHING has been done in remaining portion. Even Obiano plea for PPP on the road wasn't approved by Buhari after Obiano got financiers. What a heartless government supported by heartless fanatics

Did you just say that Onitsha-Enugu road has been half-done by GEJ??... May God just forgive you! I challenge you to go make this statement on before commuters and drivers who ply that route regularly.

The point being made is that Jonathan spent 5 years and earned the highest revenue/income than any other Nigerian leader, but his only achievements for the SE are promises and 'ground breaking' ceremonies for projects which little or zero funds were released for. But you think Jonathan is a saint and Buhari who just started 18months ago (and who is leading at a time of depression with greatly reduced income) is a devil?.... And with this sort of mentality you actually think someone else is a fanatic?...

2dugged:
for mentioning my dad,you are a buffoon, and i guess you are also one of those zombies of the federal Republic of Nigeria, keep asking stupid question there, ozuo, let the president keep diversifying oil instead of economy,see this goat asking me to go and get an education, thunder fire you there, since you don't know how to talk, ode, be there and calling it conspiracy theories,nonsense and ingredients

I gave you a simple indirect example highlighting what people need money for; I need money to cater for my daily needs, likewise, my father needs money for same reason and every other person out there (including the government) needs some form of income to survive. For you to have the slightest imagination that the example I gave using your dad's income is an insult, you have just proven you are either a growing child or an immature adult who I shouldn't be conversing with anyway. Peace out!

Chai.. very embarrassing... Why always us?!

basilo102:
God bless GEJ. Buhari should award and construct Enugu Onitsha expressway and stop trying to claim GEJ's projects. Both Enugu airport and NIger bridge were awarded in such a way that it will continue no matter who is ruling, igbos are not fo.ols. Enugu airport is from Chinese loan, Niger bridge is BoT model by Julius Berger who provide the bulk of the finance, FG has since paid its own commitment. Buhari should go do the remaining sections Enugu onitsha expressway if he want to be taken seriously

Whynotthetruth:
OBJ and most past Nigeria leaders promised same bridge but did NOTHING but Jonathan came and started something there no matter how negligible...but he ensured funding won't hinder the work...just like Enugu Airport...So Buhari can not stop the project without incurring heavy fines and sanctions to FG...and Jonathan paid the FG counterpart funding for the project...

Whynotthetruth:
Buhari can NEVER abandon it because it is PPP and Jonathan paid FG counterpart fund to the project...but if Buhari decides to stop it then he would only incur HEAVY sanctions and penalty for FG...

You guys seem to be swimming in falsehood. How much is the FG's counterpart fund and how much exactly did GEJ pay?... Also if GEJ paid 100% of the counterpart funding for the bridge as you both claim, how come up to N15bn was included as counterpart funding for the same bridge by Buhari in the 2016 budget?... Is there something I am missing here?

@Whynotthetruth, stop deluding yourself and your readers that GEJ has performed a miracle that makes it impossible for the bridge to be abandoned by a successor administration. Just like every other project which was started but abandoned in Nigeria, PMB's government can still abandon the 2NB but thank God, Fashola has continually reiterated that completion of the bridge is a priority of his ministry. Hopefully they keep to their words.

KevinDein:
dude, this isn't fair. You just kept destroying their not so smart arguments with logic and reason.

Nairaland isn't the place for logic so away with you

Lol.. sometimes I just wonder what the age of some of the people on this forum is. The emotions that arise from the needless pmb vs gej sentiments also doesn't help as it distorts the ability of most people to reason rationally.

2dugged:
you should be asking your president that question or what other people reason would qualify the desperation for the he search of oil in the north even with our scarce resources? Or do they intend to divide the country after they find the oil instead?

On the contrary, you should go and get yourself an education before you start dropping disjointed conspiracy theories online. As for what the north wants oil for, that is a commonsensical issue; what does the South South need 13% derivation or resource control for?.... what does your dad need his salary for?... and finally, what does a country in recession need more revenue for?... These are fairly commonsensical questions.

Ayam not understanding this move!... If it is unsafe to transport fuel by road at night, then is it safer during the day when it is clear that casualties may be far higher in the event of a crash?... I would have expected the FRSC to encourage night only travels for fuel tankers and other heavy haulage vehicles.

2dugged:
we are watching now, or you think buhari is spending scarce resources to look for oil in the north for nothing?

The question I should have asked is, are you sure you have a clue how the 13% derivation principle works?... If no oil is found there and none is sold, 13% of what exactly would they be getting?....

Sarcasm at its best...

2dugged:
it's all a ploy to get their hands on 13% derivation, every one knows there is nothing like crude oil in commercial quantity anywhere in the north, even though the president is spending scarce resources to look for it by hook or crook

How exactly will they get 13% if they dont sell any oil?.... 13% of what will they be collecting?

Corruption always fights back; the only reason why xorruption remains a culture in Nigeria is cos there are millions of hungry and greedy people who are always willing to excitedly offer themselves as tools to defend and glorify corruption.

zendy:
The North will never allow true federalism, not in a million years.

But you think the north, SW, SS would allow a secession?... You really think outright secession is more achievable and more beneficial than true federalism?

JoeBlocks:
Canvass for the family of those who lost their lives not to get neglected? Now if this government knows what its doing in the first place, why would any sane person need to canvass for support for the families of those who lost their lives in the first place.

There is a commonsensical statement that when an important appliance is broken, the wise thing to do is to fix it and not throw it away completely. As opposed to looking for a way to solve the problem of the welfare of the families of those who lost their lives, you have proposed we completely quit oil and gas even though it is obvious that we have no other ready alternative income source at the moment. I just pointed out to you how a simple crash in price of oil has totally wrecked the nation. But you really think and insist that a sensible thing to do is for the country to abandon oil in its entirety?... I'm sorry to say this, but you just sound exactly like an emotional young kid who is being spoon fed by parents and who has no idea where the food he eats comes from.

Just a simple question, how much does it take to completely diversify the nigerian economy?

I cannot tell you the exact amount but I know it would definitely take a lot given that the critical infrastructure needed to diversify the economy is all broken or non-existent. For instance, in order to boost agriculture we would need to fix the roads in the country, build new access roads and even develop a robust rail system to connect rural farmers and farms to the market for their goods. Likewise in order to boost industry/manufacturing (which in my opinion is the biggest money spinner as opposed to even agriculture), power supply across the nation has to be fixed. So I would rephrase your question, "How much would it cost to fix Nigerian roads, build modern rails and fix power?"....

JoeBlocks:
The bolded is non sequitor!. The drop of oil prices crashed the nigerian economy, so why is the government seeking oil again in the first place? When oil price has crashed? This doesn't make sense. A sensible government would have looked for an alternate means of income, not looking for crude oil.

Talking of common sense, it doesn't require more than common sense to figure out the answer to your question above. Oil prices crashed and led to REDUCED income for the country; the keyword here is 'REDUCED' and reduced income isn't the same as zero income. Even with the reduced income, oil is still responsible for over 90% of the nation's income. Once again I would reiterate it for your comprehension, diversification does not mean throwing away your ONLY source of income, rather it entails 'adding' to your current income source. Furthermore, diversification cannot be achieved in a split second and a bird in had is worth more than 10 in the bush; this again I say is common sense.

Isnt this the cracked one?

Beautiful picture.

His bible, his life!

Good thing Christians don go berserk over what someone chooses to do in his bedroom with a book he bought with his own money from the market. What matters isn't the physical book itself.

dvee2:
Don't mind these LAPTOP DOGS. They are being paid N10,000 from the looted money stolen under the "ineffectual Buffon". That's there job. Don't mistake them to general opinion. most youths aren't as dull not to remember the actual cause of Nigeria problem.

I can assure you that those guys aren't paid a dime by anyone, that's what makes the situation more pathetic. The widespread dullness is a sad reality.