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Digitallegendzx:
is Friday okay for you let's host it here in Nairaland... Let's create a thread ..
No abuse to any of the scriptures coz as a Muslim is a must for me to respect the Bible. But again dyor on rev14vs6-7

Friday is ok, create the thread on religious section then if I see it we debate.

Digitallegendzx:
the you must be reading the Bible upside down tell about the comforter ...ask your pastor about the king of abysinia that give Muslims refuge in the days of prophet Muhammad S.A.W

Muhammad can’t be a comforter promised by Jesus in the Bible, the comforter is a holy spirit that descended on the apostles on the Pentecost day.

Muhammad is far from been a holy spirit, a prophet that have sex rampantly by keeping kidnapped sex slaves after killing their husbands in a war and having more than 13 wives and claim to be given sex power of 30 men from god to go round all his wives and sex slaves in day can’t be comforter. Promising you 72 virgins from god in Muslims heaven.

Digitallegendzx:
can I challenge you for a debate ... Qur'an and bible in the light of science and history

Yes if you can stand the debate, then create the link and invite me, let me expose your Quran as a copied work from Bible filled with errors both scientific and written errors.

RealTalkNoBull:
Dude you’re extremely ignorant. At first, I thought you made a mistake but you keep repeating the same thing so I had to register to state my piece.. ON WHAT PLANET IS THE QURAN SIMILAR TO THE NEW TESTAMENT. You do know that’s the MAIN section they reject out of the entire Bible because it was written by a person [Paul] that’s never met or studied under Jesus, but hijacked the movement and even went as far as denigrating his chosen disciples, so much so that he even came to blows and fisticuffs in public with at least two of them because they knew he was an usurper!

One of the most irritating qualities I’ve noticed about y’all Nigerians is the ability to confidently state rubbish without facts and being bold about it. I think it’s a Super-Power to be honest. Because a lot of y’all are so lost and blind and you don’t even know it. And that’s why I think your country is as decrepit as it is.

Mohammed copied the Bible and change some verses to make it unique. Paul is not the one that said that Jesus Christ died on the cross and resurrected on the third day.

The writers of Quran clearly denied the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ in the Bible to give uniqueness to new religion Islam they form through manipulation of Bible and Jewish Torah. It was clear that Quran have no chronological uniqueness and it is filled with numerous errors. God word cannot have clear errors.

mu2sa2:
Quran: one version unrevised over 1400 years and forever. One author- Almighty God. Accurate, consistent, protected from adulteration. The most read book ever.

You know that Uthman burnt other versions of Koran manuscript when he finished compiling the present Koran. There are deferent versions of Koran with different Suras, some Sura is 120, 116 or 124. It was Uthman that burn other versions. How are you sure that the ones he burnt is not the original Koran.

You are lying by saying that Quran have only one version unrevised in over 1400 years. Uthman revised various versions of Quran, compiled it into one book and burnt other versions.

tamdun:
See as this one quickly change the thread to muslim vs Christian, wetin concern muslim for this thread?

How is it turning the thread to Muslim vs Christian, probably you didn’t see where I stated that some verses and story in the Torah (Old Testament of the Bible) was copied from Epic of Gilgamesh the Sumerian world oldest religion unearthed by archeologists in present day Iraq which is areas of ancient Babylon.

Surayj123:
Bring evidence that they are 29 different quran, u are pained because u know it is the only book that has nt been change since it was revealed. Dont bring false claim without evidence

The one chosen to be the standard Qira'at was Hafs, in 1924. Hafs was a student/transmitter who died in 796 AD. He lived in Kufa.

Futhermore, Hafs was not even one of the 'Readers', nor did he live alongside the prophet Muhammad, nor during the time of King Uthman.

Muhammand Al-Hussaini al-Hadad an Egyptian teacher at the University in Cairo, was asked by the Bureau of Education there, to choose ‘one’ of the Qira'ats as the authoritative one.

He chose Hafs.

His credentials are not known, and no one seems to know why he chose Hafs. This took place in 1924.

The “1400 year old Uthman argument” has only been around for 100 years. It is a recent argument which is currently falling to pieces, since it is utterly failing the test of ‘Historical Criticism’.

The list above, alone, proves this matter, and unfortunately the number of different Qira'ats/Qurans continues to rise as they are being discovered and reported.

In 2016, 26 different Qurans were discovered by Professor Hatun Tash, whom later presented them at the 'Speakers Corner' in London England with the help of Dr. Jay Smith.

They faced heavy opposition despite the clear evidence they had in their hands.

These 2 professionals have devoted many years studying the history of Islam and the authenticity of the Quran. Dr. Jay Smith began his scholarly research in this area during his time in India, and officially began taking on this issue in a public setting since 1995, starting with a debate in Cambridge.

Their findings are a phenomenal breakthrough.

No Muslim has confronted the ‘textual historical analysis’ of the Quran. The 6 manuscripts, each located in their respected places, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Paris, London, Egypt, and Yemen, were never challenged in the field of Academia until 2002–2007, by two Muslim scholars.

Surayj123:
Bring evidence that they are 29 different quran, u are pained because u know it is the only book that has nt been change since it was revealed. Dont bring false claim without evidence

There are currently 30+ different versions/readings/Qira'ats/ Qurans that exist in the world today.

A Qira'at, in regards to the Quran, is an iteration of the text done by a group of scholars; there were 30 popular ones in Islam.

10 were ‘official readers’ and another 20 were students who worked underneath the readers, known as ‘transmitters’.

They were responsible for looking closely into the 'rasm' (The skeletal structure of the text) and then determined where to put dots and vowels into different places.

Surayj123:
See talk, point of correct the quran was revealed, the torah, the bible and the quran were all revealed by the same God, that why there is similarities in these books, so no one copy from each other

If you read quran without been biased, you will notice that it was a copied work from the Bible( Torah and New Testament) because it is not chronological rather a hasty copy and paste work with a lot of errors.

Digitallegendzx:
But Qur'an can never,will and forever continue to exist the way it is... As a matter of fact and proof to avoid unnecessary agurement and being qoute by religion bigots there is only one version of Qur'an forever Allahu Akbar...i believe in Bible as it was mentioned in the Qur'an also apostles Jesus peace be upon him.

There are different versions of Koran, the one you are using was compiled by Abubakar and he burnt the other versions. The Yazidis in Iraq still have the burnt versions. Presently 29 versions of Koran is in circulation.

Qur'an was copied from the Bible with few changes like denial of death and resurrection of Jesus Christ to make it unique.

If you believe in Bible and Jesus then you should believe that Jesus died on the cross and resurrected on the third day.

NwekeUG:
Kanye West Creates Own Bible, Replaces Every Mention Of God With 'Kayne' (Photos)

US rapper, Kanye West has reportedly created a new Bible which has every mention of God replaced with the rapper's name 'Kayne', IgbereTV reports.

The new book called 'Book of Yeezus' was described by the rapper as the 'Book of Modern Day'.

That is plagiarism , that is how the writers of Koran copied from the New Testament of Bible and Jewish Torah while Jewish Torah copied some verses from Sumerian religion in Mesopotamia in the Epic of Gilgamesh which is oldest religious tablet unearthed in ancient Babylon.

People fall for fake something, that account is fake. The yellow curvy girl in that picture doesn’t answer Oghogho Ibieme. I know that girl.

LILTJAY:
Igbos should be wiped of by the NAF

The heart of a man

Islam the Religion of blood shed and dying to inherit 72 virgins in Muslim heaven, a paradise of sex Orgies.

Nawaa, monkey dey work baboon dey shop.

nedekid:
Then let SW keep its vat, SS, SE and north also.
All regions should progress at their own pace and not drag others down.

SW will be the first to run away if anyone call for resource control or restructuring. They drive joy in fake chest beating.

South West keep on deceiving theirselves with fake VAT statistics. Have your own country you Will run away, support Biafra you call for IPOB head.

Keep on regurgitating fake statistics that cannot change Ibadan rusty brown roofs.

blackpanda:
Brazilians speak some Yoruba too, that doesn't make then Yoruba. Asaba is not Igbo, make una rest.

And Kaduna Nzeogwu 1966 Coup from the same place you said are not Igbos where termed Igbo Coup.

Pastafari:
All Christians will go to hell because they have refused to acknowledge the only true god, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Remember that the Flying Spaghetti Monster so loved the world that he sent his only begotten noodles, for whosoever eats it shall have everlasting life.

There is God almighty, the earth is not in vain because everything in it was perfected by supernatural being.

Pastorjohn2:
Let this be known Catholicism is not recognized by God nor christ, Mary is nothing else but the mother of jesus, A pathway for him into this world apart from that she is nobody and nothing but a vessel.
Worshiping her is satanic and no different from idol worshipping.

Pls forward this to fp to educate the people that have being misled towards this wayward practice.

Catholics don’t worship Mary, stop been ignorance.

You are not sure of your own salvation and you are busy calling other people faith satanic, don’t you think that you have a wicked heart that need change. This is how Boko haram use to state by thinking your own belief ideology is the best why others deserve to die.

I hope you don’t tell your mother to her face that she is nobody and nothing else but only a path way to bring you into the world. You should be mindful of your utterances and repent for God is love.

If you don’t have respect for your mother,others have respect for their own mother.

iruocious:
A very big lie. For you to even say this, it's obvious you've never been there.

Nembe people speak Igbo dialects like Ikwere, Ubani and Opobo people in Rivers State.

iruocious:
Stop spreading falsehood. You see those war canoes on display, in the olden days, they were normally filled to the brim with slaves (mostly ibos) for one to earn a chieftaincy title.

Everywhere na una get am. Claim relationship.

They are Igbos , Nembe people speaks Igbo dialects and bear mostly Igbo names.

Igbos are never slaves in waterline area’s of Niger Delta rather the reverse is the case.

Our oil gang them

Robbstark is an Afonja guy claiming Opobo man, all Opobo people agree that they are Igbos.
Ibani and Opobo are typical Igbo villages. Their Igbo names and language gives them out as Igbos.

Taye4j:
Nobody is holding you, you should rather blame your forefathers who sold you into slavery by removing the secession clause in the Constitution due to greed.

You have started crying already. , hypocritical statement and laughable. Na human being remove am, so you can put it back and kick the parasite out. Who like living with parasite, the joke is on you guys. Keep on deceiving yourself.

plaindealer:
Kano is at number 7, on top of all the SE states..

I don’t know why poor people are always the first to rubbish other people..

For your mind the person you quote is from SE. Na so una dey mumu unaself. You are attacking your fellow Afonja.

Taye4j:
Where are the Ndi billionaires from the East? Can you imagine, the biggest and most resourceful state in the East couldn't even beat Osun state not to talk of Oyo and Ogun .

Jealousy and hatred will kill Igbos very soon.

Yet they want to go and you are holding onto them and crying like babies. Who is the real parasite!!!

You think is all this fake IGR paperwork South that you SW media is dishing out.

If the IGR is true, you Yorubas will crying the loudest at the mention of Biafra.

OVB123:
When it comes to igr developers of other regions are parasite. Mtcheeew!

Yet they want to go and you are holding onto them and crying like babies. Who is the real parasite!!!

Geeman2006:
They are leakages definately.. I don't understand how Kaduna keeps dusting Kano in IGR performance since El-rufai came on board. Something is definitely not right with those running Kano. Kano has the population , commercial activity and more industries than any state in the North. Just tells you Ganduje & cronies are not doing something right.

Nothing is wrong, you believe in those figures yet the states with highest IGR cannot pay workers salary or show the outcome of higher IGR in their state.

coolcare:
How come l Kano is that bad to extent that Kaduna did almost double of Kano.

That to tell you the kind of leadership in Kano. Kaduna has proved they have good leader.

Another state I have issues with is Ogun State. With number of factories in Ogun State, it sad with that number.

We should ask what drive Abuja above Rivers and Delta state. These are questions we should ask.

Governor in Rivers and Delta should be question

All this figures na scam.