₦airaland Forum

Markfemi2:
There's no fight
I think Yoruba has given niger Delta more freedom in Yoruba land than any other tribe

If they want us out of oil companies
They should return all the lucrative lands they own in lagos
Last I checked apapa that's worth more than $35bn is largely owned by niger deltans

Guy, be guided in your utterances lest you sound like iporks who are fond of making wild claims. Dangote and Flour Mills of Nigeria are the two largest stakeholders at Apapa hence their willingness to voluntarily fix the dilapidated road the fg has long abandoned in that axis.

It seems India is the latest development headquarters of the iPob World Development Program.

It seems deomelo's handle has been banned by the anti-spam bot. In that case, Mr. laudate, shey you fit help us with something on John Tanimola Obaro, the Founder and CEO/MD of SystemSpecs (Remita)? Abi we don already cover am?

Very unfortunate delay. But the project is still on track. The important thing is that it's not an abandoned project and will definitely be delivered in due time.

Kai. See as Nnamdi kanu just demystified himself. Smh.

@deomelo: Chief, have you guys done anything on John Tanimola Obaro, Founder and CEO of SystemSpecs Nigeria Limited (REMITA)?

@laudate: Chief, have you done anything on Olajide Adeniran, owner of Core Media, the parent company of CoreTV News?

RIP to the dead. Way too many young and promising lives have been prematurely cut short and lost to this NYSC of a scheme.

hilroy:
I think this excerpt from Baba Awo should be a common knowledge for all Omo karo ojire. It was obvious that the Northerners and the Easterners deliberately conspired against Yorubas during the first republic because of our development and success. As God will have it, both of them got at each other starting with trigger happy Igbos young soldiers killing Hausa/Fulani leaders, and Northerners soldiers retaliating during the 2nd coup. Mind you, Yoruba leaders and soldiers were not spared during the 1st coup by the Igbos and 2nd coup by the Northerners. That's why I'm surprised when I see any Omoluabi begging for unity with these 2 tribes that hate us so much.

Kpom! I hope that boy will begin to receive sense sooner than later else their kind won't hesitate to support another declaration of a state of emergency in yorubaland again today as an excuse to promote their jaundiced narrative, as if we have had anything close to the bloodletting going on in Boko haram ravaged Borno that isn't under a state of emergency, or Kaduna and kano with their recurring ethno-religious crises.

pazienza:
Claiming Ife origin means nothing. Oral history in this part of the world are usually tainted to reflect present political realities.

Many communities in Akoko SE claim Ife origin, yet they all speak Edoid languages, from Isua to Ipe, Epinmi, Ipesi, Ifira, Sosan, they all speak Edoid languages as first languages and Yoruba as a second language.

From my encounter with these people , I believe they are Edo people who are suffering from inferiority complex and are striving too hard to become Yorubas when it's obvious they are Edo. They all claim to have migrated from Ife and that the current Edoid languages they speak was as a result of their interactions with Edo people during their journey From Ife to their current location.
Their identity crisis is reminiscent of those of Ika and other Bini origin claiming, but Igboid speaking Igbo communities.

The entire Akoko SE is Edoid, and have no reason being part of Ondo.
But the people are currently Yorubaphilic and Edophobic, and are currently striving hard to kill off their indigenous Edoid languages and replace them with Yoruba languages.
They had already done this with their names, as most of them now bear Yoruba surnames and first names, Edoid names are becoming a rarity amongst these Edoid speaking people.
It's truly amazing.

Guy, why are you like this?? Pesin talk say his ancestors originate from Ile-Ife, and you are arguing with the person that you know better, abeg what is your own? The Ga-Adangbe tribe (aboriginal people of Accra, Ghana) and Ewe folks of Volta-Region of Ghana also claim to have originated from Ile-Ife, and yet do not speak Yoruba as first or second language today, so will you also call them liars or tell us that their claims are due to 'present political realities'? Abeg omo yigbo wetin consign you for this matter? Na wah for you o.

ModsWillKillNL:
Agreed, but why was it the west of the 4 regions we had at the time, that got embroiled in such political turmoil as to get a state of emergence from an ordinary abokkki

My late grandfather almost lost his life in the crisis. He had already been daubed with petrol before...

I'll say it again that you're arguing from a position of ignorance. I'll allow Awo himself to respond to your 'why the West of the 4 Regions' question coz even he didn't feel the state of emergency was justified, considering that other regions also had their own fair share of crises yet the central government didn't deem it fit to declare a state of emergency in any of those hotspots. Read it slowly and hopefully your ignorance would be cured once and for all.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/07/awos-reply-state-emergency-1962/

Awo's Reply to the State of Emergency in 1962:

(Excerpts)

“The first question which any reasonable person ought to ask himself is this. Is there a state of emergency in the Western Region? That is the most important question which the Prime Minister and the Cabinet must ask themselves. I submit with greater respect that a state of emergency does not exist in Western Nigeria. “Not long ago after independence, there was rioting of a most severe nature in the Tiv Division of Northern Nigeria.

Several lives were lost, several properties were destroyed, there was arson and a host other crimes were committed. At that time, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa was the Prime Minister as he is the Prime Minister,today. He did not think it fit to call this Parliament to declare a state of emergency in the Northern Region.

Also in Okrika- there was widespread rioting in Okrika; again, several lives and properties were lost. I understand that this widespread rioting in Okrika occurred twice in the Eastern Region. The Prime Minister and the Cabinet did not think it fit on that occasion to declare a state of public emergency in the Eastern Region.

“But, because the Action Group is pursuing the normal democratic processes as laid down in our Constitution to oust someone who happens to be very close friend of the Prime Minister, and also because the Action Group is looked upon as a moral foe to the N.P.C., this very far-reaching provision of our Constitution is now being invoked, only in respect of what might be described as squabbles inside the Chamber of the Western House of Assembly. It is doing violence to our Constitution and doing violence to the construction of words to suggest that what happened in the Western House of Assembly amounts to a state of public emergency.

ModsWillKillNL:
We jointly own this country with the northerners.

They dare not!

Can you just hear yourself?! They dare not, you say?? You sound like a frigging kid. They have already set the precedent with the Igbos. I guess in such an event, you will grovel at their feet like a slave and beg them not to send Yoruba people out of the North coz you need them to validate your existence. Smh. Anyway, if providence grants us the opportunity of leaving this damned contraption, you're very free to stay behind and eternally serve your masters. No one will deprive you of that privilege, that I'm sure of.

ModsWillKillNL:
Awwww

You are mixing things up.

The west was so enveloped in political crisis that Tafa Balewa had to declare a state of emergency in the SW.

That was before Nzeogwu struck.

Dude, with all due respect, you're in no position to lecture me about the politics of that era. You're the one confusing issues. Tafawa Balewa DID NOT tamper with the Regional/Parliamentary system that he was a part of at the time, the 'Khaki boys' did that by truncating the parliamentary system and introducing the unitary one we still have till today. The state of emergency (which was declared by Tafawa Balewa in May of 1962) only lasted for less than a year. Akintola was Premier till he was murdered in January 1966, long after the state of Emergency had been lifted. You're the confused one, guy. If the Western Region had been allowed to resolve its own internal problems (as it was already on the path of doing), perhaps this country wouldn't be in this shyt of a mess it is currently in. Yoruba people had already isolated SLA and by then he was already amenable to a political solution to his problems with the Awo camp.

Buhari's supporters went on a rampage killing folks in parts of the North some years back just coz he lost an election to GEJ, yet no state of emergency was declared in the affected states (more lives were lost during those riots than happened during the Awo/Akintola crisis), neither did anyone overthrow GEJ's government as a result.

Quit trying to justify the unjustifiable (the Nzeogwu coup) just coz you're trying to make a stupid point that is meant to suggest that Yorubas are incapable of ruling themselves owing to some internal political issues they had in the past. I guess your type are one of those that would rather be in servitude to other ethnicities owing to your inferiority complex that makes you feel you must be ruled over by others, else you won't be suggesting that such a great race as the Yorubas are incapable of ruling themselves. You're arguing from a position of abysmal ignorance.

kn23h:
Were Yorubas the only ones warring amongst themselves back then when the number of educated individual in each village could be counted with ones fingers/toes?

I'm simply asking if you and your villagers plan to set off an intra-tribal war when Nigeria separates.

That chap is living in a fool's paradise. I guess his kind won't wake-up until the Northerners give Yoruba people an ultimatum as well. Maybe then he will receive sense.

ModsWillKillNL:
Unity begging?

Come on, stop sounding like the flatiyeasterners.

Nigeria belongs to us.

Nobody is holding us down.

We once had Western Region. You know how it ended.

Awolowo and Akintola tore the West apart.

Guy, you are on your own with this your unity begging. Gbabeski. FYI, Western Region wouldn't have 'ended' (as you put it) if Nzeogwu and his boys didn't execute their coup! Yorubas didn't end the Western Region, the murderous and ill-advised coupists did that. Who's to say that the Yoruba folks would not have found an internal solution to their own problems back then if the coup hadn't taken place? They had already expressed their rejection of Akintola in very clear terms. Go back and read the history of that era. Right before the January '66 coup, Akintola was already isolated by the majority of the Westerners, and was as a matter of fact open to a political solution that was to involve the release of Awo from prison in order to douse the political upheaval that his tenure had generated. Akintola was already prepared to make concessions to the Awo camp before the coupists cut short his life and that of other victims of that putsch. You are obviously ignorant else you won't even bring up such a lame and jaundiced p.o.v.

kn23h:
Do you expect someone like him to know that having a Yoruba country doesn't necessarily mean that we can't have diplomatic relationship with other countries? Many of the Yoruba businesses on this thread have companies located in other countries.

No country stands alone. Having a Yoruba country simply means that we have all rights to govern and develop ourselves at our own pace. i.e Yorubas can emphasis on tourism, cultural exploration, natural resource exploration etc.

Hate is a strong word, it's a feeling I don't like entertaining. But....If na say I hate pesin, na unity begging Yorubas who are so ignorant of Yoruba success and commonwealth. Everything falls back on Nigeria's dilapidated education system.

Nigga is even quoting kiriji war...... o ma se. Are y'all still living in stoneages?

My sis, the truth is that Nigeria is only living on borrowed time, either way we want to look at it. It's like asking why the need for this particular thread afterall, if we can't live without one another? This thread is a reinforcement of our SEPARATE IDENTITY compared to the Igbos. History and the Nigerian experiment has shown that we can't live together in the same country with them -- not that we haven't tried anyway, but their domineering tendencies will never allow us be at peace with one another. We will definitely make better neighbours as separate countries coz then there'll be no need to chest-beat or heat up the polity over who rules over whom, and we'll respect each other's boundaries, something that WILL NEVER happen within 'One Nigeria', no matter the 'restructuring' -- as it stands, if all igbos decide to relocate to the SW, we Yorubas can't do shyt about it all in the name of 'One Nigeria'.

But as separate countries we'll both respect ourselves and our boundaries and will be free to deport any troublemaker in our midst without having to apologize for sending their destitutes littering our region back to Anambra or wherever they may come from.

The 'Big Three' tribes will always be at each other's throat trying to dominate one another. Nigeria has proved since independence that we all can't live as a nation. #Fact. This parasitic relationship that currently exists is not sustainable, and will only continue to breed hatred and animousity.

Yorubas are an homogeneous group of people with contiguous borders and a common origin (ile-ife). No such commonality exists amongst the 'Nigerians', which is why Nigeria has been finding it extremely difficult to truly unite as there are no real ties that bind us. All Yorubas share culture, food, dressing, language, etc in common. Again, I emphasize that such commonality and homogeneity doesn't exist amongst Nigerians in general and that's why there can't be any real unity.

This unity begging from some of our folks is just too embarrassing please. Let's even pretend, for the sake of pride, that we too can stand on our own if need be abeg. Or must the rest of Nigeria kick us out before we grow some pride as a people??

ModsWillKillNL:
There are so many factors to consider.

Do you think an independent Yorubaland will be politically stable enough to attain it's full potential?

Gosh, did you just ask this?? Is Nigeria after all these years politically stable? This is unity begging at its worst form. It's like saying Yorubas can't live without Igbo's or Hausas. It's this sort of embarassing unity begging that makes us butt of jokes. There are many Yoruba enterpreneurs that are doing great in Ghana as well as other neighboring countries without qualms, so who says we can't be good neighbours with the others while doing business with one another?

The entire population of Kenya (East Africa's largest economy) is barely 40-million and yet it's doing great, even though their economy is only barely the size of Lagos (that doesn't even include the rest of the SW).

Even the Northerners have said they are not afraid to stand alone so why this unity begging for goodness sakes??

ModsWillKillNL:
We still need one Nigeria though.

Our companies, organisations and interests are doing well all over the country except maybe in iboland.

Restructuring is only a worst case scenario option for us in my opinion. Ideally we ought to be an independent/sovereign country. Yoruba's are too big not to have their own country. In fact it's tantamount to an insult to suggest that a people numbering as much as over 40-million can't stand alone.

We can have good neighbourly relationships with other neighbouring countries and ethnicities. As a matter of fact we would fare better that way coz then we will be able to control our own borders and resources too. One Nigeria is holding us back from attaining our full potentials as a people. We shouldn't have to depend on permission from Abuja or some other place to get things done as is currently obtainable.

It's pretty clear from the awesome job that the likes of hilroy, deomelo, laudate and the rest of our prolific posters are doing on this thread that Yorubas run well organized & structured companies that operate in line with international best practices. So much so that you can quite easily access, compile or put together their company profiles as well as the profiles of the individuals behind them by doing a simple online search about them.

Our lousy neighbours on the other hand have run out of REAL entrepreneurs . Therefore they have resorted to making up fictitious 'companies', putting up igbo employees as owners of non-igbo owned companies, including Okoro & son 2x2 shops, or infinitely repeating innoson, teragro, Linda Ikeji and the likes to keep their thread going. Odikwa egwu o.

Okoyiboz3:
You're a lying twerp from a long lineage of criminals and the only place you're eligible to serve is in prison. Weren't you the Anambra bushman claiming to be a Fulani man? Now, you're claiming that you served in the CID.

You're no different from the numerous Pigs here on Nairaland who have disowned their entire lineages because they couldn't bear the moral burden which being a Biafran piglet brings.

Lol. You wicked sha. See as you just exposed that punk.

ModsWillKillNL:
Exactly!

To them, it's all about overtaking this thread in terms of number of pages. The content doesnt matter anymore.

Bundle of looonatics!!

Guy, the difference between us and them is as clear as light and darkness. Na we help their thread reach 100-pages sef coz we were busting their lies on their thread for the world to see, else that thread for never even reach up to 50-pages. We can keep terminating their lies, but on here, and the world will still get to witness it.

ModsWillKillNL:
Who are these nobodies you are posting as established businessmen?

Keep dreaming!

That guy is a joker. He obviously can't vouch for those businesses that's why he can't give even a brief info or profile about them. This smacks of desperation on their part coz he probably just went to Olx or Vconnect and started copying and pasting any business that has an Igbo name attached to it (it doesn't matter if it's the secretary's name or the p.a to the oga). They want to catchup with this thread by force by fire, and in the typical yiboo fashion they are resorting to fraudulent tactics.

See serious smackdown. Aye le o... ibosi o.

ModsWillKillNL:
Nonsense!

Nobody knows her.

It is no match for Tara Fela Durotoye's fashion house.

I gbadun dis your innovation of rebutting them via this our own thread, coz it seems their latest strategy is to increase their page count by deliberately posting trash in the hopes that we'll go over there to counter them.

laudate:
No, no, no...you don't mean it! Abeg, dis people go kill person with laugh for here...!

Nna eh, I just weak. Lol.

ModsWillKillNL:
For real

hahahahahahahah

I didn't make that up bro. That post in the screenshot is right above the post you mentioned. Those loudmouths have been exposed in full glare for the empty chest thumping nonentities that they are. Soon they will start including Mama Nkechi pepper soup and Nkwobi road side mamaputs.

ModsWillKillNL:
Looonatic flatiyeasterners have started profiling startups of fresh graduates.

Can that measure up to Yoruba industry

Lol. Looks like they have run out of steam already. Sotay they have started profiling local barbershops, like in the attached screenshot.

OritaIbadan:
Erosion is a natural disaster it has nothing to do with tribe or state. I have visited south East and I saw some gully erosion sites there but is not as terrible as some people talk about it here. We in south west here have experienced a couple of these natural disturbance like flood though this issue of erosion is new particularly in Ibadan here. Lets stop being tribal with everything even the very act of nature.

Omo yiibo, you are fooling no one with this moniker of yours. Your ipob piglet behind didn't have to open this deceptive moniker to express yourself.

Kingsley Igbo whyyyyy.

laudate:
Every sensible person on NL, knows that Laudate is not from the Southwest. But your deluded, untutored mind believes that anyone who disagrees with your point of view, is automatically a Yoruba person.Anuofia! You added 2 plus 2, and got 390 as usual. Everyone knows how dumb you are. May you die on top my matter! It is your own people that are confused. Today, you are Jews, tomorrow you are from Nri.

How can anyone be envious of a set of people that are so confused about where they actually hailed from? What is there to be envious about? Is it your clamour for freedom, that shows you are in bondage? Or what?? See who is calling someone a slave. Isn't it you and your people that have been begging the rest of Nigeria, to free you from your chains?

Guy, dem don't turn you to superstar o. Lol. Dis one wey dem dey research your background and ethnicity like say na gulder ultimate search.

Mac2016:
Foolish union...Christians should start discouraging their daughters from marrying muslim men...it is a ploy to islamize. From many examples have seen, they (groom's family) will eventually coax the babe to accept islam or they term it as disrespect to her husband while Muslim frown at muslim women marrying christian men..Wise up!!!

Shut your trap. Spoken like the true MFM fanatic that you are. Wetin consign you? Tinubu and Fashola are married to practising Christians and never forced their wives to convert up till today. That's how we Yorubas roll. We no dey carry religion for head like you MFM fanatics.

idealogical:
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Odu’a Chairman Visits Ace Estate

This Odu'a investment conglomerate is an enduring testament and legacy of what made the defunct Western region stand out amongst her peers back then. All its investment holdings (including this Ace Estate located at Jericho, Ibadan) are sure to stand the test of time.