omoharry:
professor of English ,Weldon.Since you are a bigot and have decided to wear it like a batch of honor for all to see, then congratulations to you. However you have no reason to dislike other ethnic group openly and still be shouting for one Nigeria..maybe u should start convassing for oduduwa republic since u are intolerant of other ethnic group Mr bigot .You desire to be called an educated person but ur comments shows u are grossly ignorant & immature. As I focus to work on my English ,maybe you should work on your mind that is clouded with hate & ethnocentrism .I am sure it will make a better person.yeye..

chuckdelis:


See how you succeeded in sounding very very foolish.

omoharry:
You are a tribal bigot..the once wey marry yoruba wives how many cultural development have been brought to the Yoruba race?.You nor even read and comprehend the article before talking..na just to follow the back-wagon of calling her names.

dewiseacre:
Nigerians are frustrated and that's why they get edgy every time. A lot are also follow-follow, they think in just the direction of the crowd and cannot think outside the box.

I can bet everyone blaming this woman failed English literature...going berserk over a 'marketing pitch' that wasn't meant to be taken literally!

It's people like these that will call one a murderer if you simply wrote "..he killed the game"

Kai!!

Abimbola Sowumi (rtd)
Mallam Salau Ahmed Akorede

Kennitrust:
I don't know but I think the reason for this arrest is because, we are not one. Our reasoning is differences as a nation. It could be a certain ethnic majority is working out to suppress the minority.


My open thu.

darlingtonNYIG:
Fulani slave trade occurred more with the Arabs. The Tuaregs trafficked slaves way back before the trans-atlantic slaves trade. So Fulanis where victims and dealers in slavery.

proxillin:


SOme people are getting history wrong. Islam came to Nigeria through Fulanis before Christians.

You can see the way they are arguing here. They don't even know the history of Africa or Nigeria. They are ranting about how I am biased.

Vulcanheph:

You are so on point, You answered the question perfectly and literally spoke my mind ........if not For the fact say today na sunday i For buy You Beer.

EzeIgboNwaChukwu:
As a true citizen of the country I first see myself as a Nigerian before I think of myself as an Anambra man before I even accept to be referred to as Igbo.
if we all can have this mentality then peace, unity and progress will be established in the nation.

Look, if you go far back in history, most Nigerian tribes migrated from somewhere and came to where they are now...as did many other African tribes.

The Lingala of the DR Congo came originally from what is now Nigeria for example.

I know the Fulani herdsmen have commited lots of crimes, and yes, they are wrong. So also have other tribes against the FUlanis. It does not make taking the laws into the hands by anyone right.

So, stop the bigotry. For all I know, your tribe migrated from somewhere else and came here. I know of one Southern Kaduna tribe that claims to have come from Egypt centuries ago. Does that make them foreigners.

Put pressure on your legislator to pass bills to strenghten the police. We all benefit from a peaceful country. Not from a replay of Nazi-like tactics.

Know that the Rwanda genocide started when some Hutu were calling Tutusi Ethiopians....

leokid866:
Truth be told, the way I see it we dot need to unite as Yoruba, Igbos, or Hausa. As long as we can unite as Nigerians with a clear directive of moving forward progressively. If we can just shelve our secondary labels and go back to the base label of been human with basic needs we will be able to move forward. America has more ethnic communities within its borders than Nigeria will ever have, but they keep things moving because they realize they are all humans with basic needs to be met. But we Nigerians are still struggling with who is Igbo, who is Yoruba and who is Hausa or fulani.

MetaPhysical:


Azikiwe did whattt..

joyousmother2016:


B.A History, MSc International Relations, PhD (History and International Studies). The department is now History and International Studies not just History. Hope you understand now.

joyousmother2016:


Unijos then had only History department, with electives from Political science (International Relations). Few years back they introduced International studies to the dept. Making it dept of history and international studies. So with MSC in either Strategic Studies, Peace Studies or International Relations you will be admitted to PhD History in any university since they are related.

joyousmother2016:


That Zoology question wasn't for me but asked for someone. Not everything that you see refers to a specific person. I am a history (BA International Relations (MSc) and now specialising in cultural history (PhD)

joyousmother2016:


YES, I am a history student.

TAO11:


You need to understand, as a matter of urgency, that ancient cults (e.g. the Cults of Mithras and Horus) and even religions (e.g. Christianity) do not have ALL their stories and episodes -- as we know them today -- determined and frozen in one specific point in time of their respective histories.

Rather, these stories and episodes evolve over the centuries with more other stories even being adopted from other outside stories, cultures, etc. as the centuries pass.

Thus, the fact that the Cults of Mithras and the Cult of Horus predate Christianity does NOT imply that NONE of their stories and episodes will ever be influenced by a later ideology (in this case Christianity).

In fact, you shouldn't have been mad at me at all, for I was simply regurgitating your so-called evidence. Your "evidence" for your claim that the Noah Flood and Ark Story was borrowed from mythologies was to the effect that:

The RESEMBLANCE (of the Flood Story) between Christianity and the Cult of Mithras IS BECAUSE "the Persian mystic INVADED Italy DURING the first century AFTER CHRISTIANITY".

The "First Century after Christianity" corresponds to some time between 1 CE and 100 CE. In other words, it was the contact which happened sometime between these two dates (1 CE and 100 CE) that led to the Flood Story being common to these two faiths (i.e. Christianity and the Cult of Mithras).

To know which specifically influenced the other (on this specific story) during this contact period, it suffices that I mention to you that the Biblical account of the Noah's Flood story appears in the Bible for the first time in the text of the OT, i.e., centuries before Christianity. The first Christians thus came to accept this Bible story as truth as a matter of faith.

However, the Biblical account of the Flood story has the Priestly text of the Old Testament (aka the Sacerdotal Text) and the Yahvist text of the Old Testament as its source documents, and these source documents have been dated by experts in historical criticism to circa 6th century BC and circa 9th century BC respectively.

In summary, since your "evidence" states clearly that the commonality (of this Flood story) between Christianity and the Cult of Mithras was BECAUSE OF THE CONTACT which occurred sometimes in between 1 CE and 100 CE; and since it is also known that the Bible writers had documented this Bible story as early as circa 9th century BC (i.e. some nine-hundred years before the contact), it then becomes pretty obvious who the influencer was and who the 'influencee' was (as regards this story) between Christianity and the Cult of Mithras during the period of the contact.

Furthermore, regarding your question to me about a particular statement, which you've attributed to your author, along the following lines:

"Christianity and Mithra share similarities BECAUSE Persian army invaded Italy - the seat of Roman Catholicism and as such, the alegories/stories of Mithra DIFFUSED INTO CHRISTIANITY"

Please highlight to me where this specific statement (or something to the same effect) was mentioned in the screenshot (just as you highlighted the word "flood" in the earlier attachments) so we can then continue our discussion afterwards from there because I, personally, am yet to find it. Lol!

And regarding your last set of attachments, please be aware that I am not here to defend Christianity (or any religion for that matter), I am simply defending one thing and one thing only (at least for now) which is the FACT of the Noah's Flood Story. An argument I am willing to substantiate as soon as you indicate interest.

So, stop the straw-man fallacy of trying to portray me as defending the idea that there is no evolution and borrowing in Christianity at all. I have never made any such claim anywhere. Stick to discussing our respective contrary claims which relate simply to the Story of the Flood of Noah -- Fact or Fiction?

And so far, you've not been able to substantiate your claim that it never occurred with any shred of evidence, proof, or reason -- not one.

In conclusion, [b]my position that you're simply indoctrinated into the idea (that the Noah Flood Story never occurred) by pseudo-intellectual social pressure still stands tall, at least so far.

TAO11:


First, I like to apologize for the impropriety of the manner in which my reply to your first comment on my submission about Ikedu (as well as my replies that follow on the same issue) was put. I have gone back to check the comment you had originally made in that regard, and I have seen that it is actually fair and not rude. My assumption was that it was coming from an Ubinu troll, and I wasn't having it at that time.

However, the position I maintain is that to dismiss Ikedu as non-existent in writing, you require more than a simple and lax allusion to the general muteness on it among academics and natives as well as more than a mere allusion to the secrecy in which it has generally been shrouded; especially when there are prominent scholars who have acknowledged it independent of each other (e.g Akinjogbin as well as C. O. Adepegba as I have mentioned).

Moreover, it is not anything surprising if no one at all in Ife today (or very few people if anyone at all) knows about Ikedu. And my reference to Bukola Oyeniyi, a faculty member in the Department of History at Missouri State University, was NOT ONLY to buttress the fact that he had met and worked with people who know it; but also to highlight the specific area of the Nigeria region occupied by those people.

In other words, the fact the North-East Yoruba border is the specific Yoruba region whose present occupants he identifies with some knowledge of Ikedu is actually quite mutually exclusive to the text been known by the present occupants of Ile-Ife, Osun State.

In fact, in the course of his discussion, I recall that he explained why his observation (on whom the present day custodians of ancient Ikedu tradition are) is what it is.

He identifies WHY these modern custodians are those of our kins in the North-Eastern Yoruba borders -- some of whom he noted to have worked with before. He identifies the REASON with the thesis that Ile-Ife, Osun State is not the first Ife settlement of the early "Yoruba" people.

He noted that there is ample persuasive evidence for the thesis that the earliest Ife was closer to the Niger-Benue confluence than it is to Ile-Ife, Osun State, a position which A. F. C. Ryder et al. also maintain.

A. F. C. Ryder in "The Ife-Benin Relationship" cites a certain "early Yoruba historian, J. O. George" who had noted that:

" 'The present town of Ile-Ife should not be taken as the original Ile-Ife ... the old Ile-Ife was much farther in the interior.' "

Ryder continues in reference to T. J. Bowen's "Adventures and Missionary Labours in Several Countries in the Interior of Africa (Charleston, 1857), pp.265" that:

"Forty years earlier the missionary Bowen was told of an Ife standing upon 'the sea'."

* "The sea" here as shown in the footnote of Ryder's work is a misnomer by the ancient inland people for the "great" Niger and Benue rivers of the interior

In fact, the submission of Professor Wande Abimbola that there are references in odu ifa to seven different Ife, the present one being the last also appear to corroborate this thesis.

[see: W, Abimbola: "The Literature of the Ifa Cult", in Sources of Yoruba History, pp. 55]

More than that is the fact that there is an "Ife" in Idah whose head chief bears the title "Onu" which quickly calls to mind the "Ooni" title of Ile-Ife, Osun State.

In addition is also the fact that one of the most important deities in Idah is called "Olojo" which also quickly calls to mind another deity bearing the same name in Ile-Ife, Osun state; among other important commonalities.

[see: The Present State of Art Historical Research in Nigeria: Problems and Possibilities by Babatunde Lawal in The Journal of African History, Vol. 18, No. 2 (1977), pp. 210-211]

The foregoing goes to show that you were quite mistaken on the fact that you could not see the logic of how our people in the North-Eastern Yoruba borders could have had anything to do with the compiled historical tradition on Ife, called Ikedu.

Lastly, you could follow up with the Professor as I have suggested, to confirm from him whether or not he ever made the statements I attributed to him here.

I like to keep it short for now until I hear from you again.

Peace!

Cc:
Ollaxworld