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Politics / Re: Minorities Testimonies At Willinks Commission On Life In Western Region (1957) by OgboAto: 7:48am On May 15, 2020
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Culture / Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by OgboAto: 11:33pm On May 14, 2020
gregyboy:



Go sleep my yoruba friend

Thank God for Mr. Roupell's papers.
Y'all should stop claiming us, by the way. You'll do well to claim Italians as your kinfolks.

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Culture / Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by OgboAto: 11:28pm On May 14, 2020
gregyboy:


Lol, pained.....


I quoted you on my samuel johnson thread you ignored only qn igboman stood to reply me


Oromiyan that never existed


No Benin-ife connections untill proven otherwise

Mr. Roupell wrote in his documents that you claimed Eweka came from Ife. You claim us, we have never claimed you.

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Culture / Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by OgboAto: 11:26pm On May 14, 2020
gregyboy:




Stop attaching population when debating benin when your ancestors carried guns to kill themselves from benins they didn't reason if we are minorites
When we sacrifice ijebu to our gods we didnt consider them majourity


So Bleep you and your population we took care of you alk in the past we will do it again

LMAO.
Just one Yoruba shook your 2by2 village to the core. Now imagine how many Ogedengbe are in Yorubaland waiting to be unleashes on you? Your 2by2 village has always been a conquered extension of Yorubaland. Ever wonder why you were added to Western region? Yep, you have always been our appendage. Every wonder why you have Yoruba names while we don'r use your names? Yep, you're our bxtch. We fxked y'all extensively & passed you on the Ibo & now the Ijaw are currently about to overrun your 2by2 space. cheesy.

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Culture / Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by OgboAto: 11:05pm On May 14, 2020
gregyboy:



This does not prove shit




Since the introduction of Christianity all our names in various tribe to carry god in our local dialect attached to the original names

Ebo-wonyi is now osa-wonyi

Likewise after the adoption of the word oba by the yorubas from benin many of it original names changed to reflect oba probably this words was called something else in Yoruba

Maybe olu-tanla now oba-tanla

If we are to start naming every prefix with oba from the benin benin people too would that convince you

Obagodo
Obaseki
Obayagbon
Obayuwana
And co,

My guy, I know you are an illiterate Bini cultist whose sisters are whoring in Italy but real quick, grab a book written by foreigners and you'll see those kings I listed existed before the Ooni that gave birth to the Oranmiyan that gave birth to your Eweka. Yoruba & your 2by2 kingdom nor be mate abeg.

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Culture / Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by OgboAto: 11:03pm On May 14, 2020
gregyboy:



2by2 town you think we are igbos who are silent
Nairaland go spoil, please don't even dream of it
Would be an eyesore i know my people dont try it,

It wont be a benin - yoruba bashing anymore
It will now be Edo-yoruba bashing and may escalate to a full niger delta-yoruba bashing

Think before you talk,

Only benin people will shake the entire yoruba people in tribal bashing.....

Try come benin you go know why itsekiri called us ile binu



Again dont ever wish for benin-yoruba bashing dont it wont be funny nairaland go spoil nor be joke ooh

Ordinary Ijaw shook your 2by2 kingdom to the core, don't be too noisy.

Yoruba towns in Edo state alone is enough not to mention the entire Yorubaland.

Dude spoke huge of 2by2 kingdom that Ogedengbe & his war boys ravaged that your coral wearing Sisi of a king had to appease him with Bini heaux & beads. cheesy.

Speaking of ND like there are no Yoruba towns there in ND or there are no Yoruba in Republic of Benin, Togo, Ghana, Cuba & Brazil. Your 2by2 kingdom will be overrun with historical facts & propaganda simultaneously, fxking weak set of bxtches.

No wonder it took an Ibo man to lead your midwestern region agitation, an Ibo man! All ye Bini were pussies and could not do a thing till an Ibo stepped in. No wonder the Ibo claim you as part of Biafra, Bini the conquered peoples.

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Culture / Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by OgboAto: 9:05pm On May 14, 2020
gregyboy:



Nigga you just have to prove.....


Go do your research i want to be wrong, i want to be disproved


The rfo is a reformed type of ogboni i package and reimported to benin but it does not ascertain its originality

Nigeria have introduced different churches to uk, but does that change the fact Christianity was introduced by the British to Nigeria


Smh,

You all went to screenshot J D Y Peel's paper where he gathered all the fables in Ilesa.

The paper speaks of the origin of Ogboni in Ilesa [one town out of several Yoruba towns] being from a Bini person who became a chieftain in Ilesa.

You lot are stack dishonest illiterates.

The word Ogboni is Yoruba. The origin of history of Ogboni is Yoruba & in Ifa the origin of Ogboni is Yoruba.
If you were a member, you would know all of the chants, rituals and symbolism are Yoruba. I'm a member of ROF and a traditional Ogboni in my hometown, you lot should stop with the nonsense.

You guys are overreaching and you know your population is far less than that of Yoruba online & offline. You can make the Yoruba go on a propaganda rampage against you online and your largely illiterate population would not be able to withstand the heat. If attention is taken off Ibo & put on your 2 by 2 town, it will be disastrous for you.

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Culture / Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by OgboAto: 8:16pm On May 14, 2020
gregyboy:



Lol, but a Yoruba article claims otherwise

Ogboni had always been edo people the reformed society was introduced not the worship


The RFO which is the reformed worship was introduced but the worship has always been edo


The delusion is grand

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Politics / Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by OgboAto: 7:46pm On May 14, 2020
Amujale:


The Chadic language system is older than Arabic.

Furthermore, it was through the Chadic language system that a Chadic person began a language that was later stolen and modified to form the Arabic language in itself.

The Arab fundamentalist invaded Africa murdered millions of innocent people cause a huge amount of misery and pain and stole one of our languages whilst they was here.

There was no such thing as the current stock of Arabs 50,000 years ago, yet the people of Nigeria have been around more than 500,000 years ago


I have seen a number of your posts pushing this narrative.

Now, if a crazy Arab came to W Africa & stole a language to create another one, Arabic according to you then does it mean this same person caused the creation of Aramaic, Akkadian, Phoenician, Aramaic & Hebrew since they are all similar?
Culture / Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by OgboAto: 6:44pm On May 14, 2020
davidnazee:


Yoruba word for king..

How about the Obatala, Obalufon, Obalaayna, Obajio, Obalufe, Obarese, Obalase, Obalejugbe, Obanurin, Obalurin, Obasao, Obariyun, Obakire, Obawinrin, Obawinni & Obadio that preceded Ooni?

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Culture / Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by OgboAto: 6:41pm On May 14, 2020
Na wa o, this Bini people seem to have a serious complex problem.

How is Ogboni of Bini origin when it was just introduced to Bini in the 1950s & this same Ogboni caused serious problems among the Bini between 1959-1963 leading them to want to break off from the West because they thought the West was influencing them badly?

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Politics / Re: Minorities Testimonies At Willinks Commission On Life In Western Region (1957) by OgboAto: 9:30am On May 14, 2020
Biafrarep:


They are still telling lies so shamelessly even when caught. Who did you give independence? Was it not NCNC through Zik that collaborated with with Ahmadu Bello's NPN that forced referendum on the Western region?

Even this report stated that Awolowo's AG formed a shadowy group to frustrate the referendum and even made the ridiculous claim that Igbos will dominate the Benis if they should go ahead with the referendum. Lol, I can even draw some parallels with those blackmails of Awolowo's AG to what is happening in recent times between Igbos and the minorities. They are now telling the minorities how Igbos are after their oil and would subjugate them should they align with us.

The evil that is currently going on in Nigeria did not start today. SMH!


Thief.

Nationalist struggle for independence was started & led by Yoruba men who founded & populated NCNC.

Read a book.

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Politics / Re: Yorubas And Igbos For A Reunion Party by OgboAto: 11:05am On May 13, 2020
helinues:
The truth is average Yoruba or Igbo offline are not even aware of all this online banters.

In order to sheat the online swords, we ( Yoruba) have some demands .

You must have been reading about the notorious Mr canceller on NL. He is confirmed from East and his job on NL is to troll, provoke and cancel majority of Yoruba's comments with different opinions from his. Some have been forced to abandon their monikers while some are on lenghty ban due to his provocation.. Advise him to Stop before moving further to other demands.

You are deluded, average Yoruba across economic, political & social classes are VERY aware & awake. The young and in fact, the old are now more vocal and keeping an eye on the Potors in the West. The recent political encounters & derisive comments of Lagos 'being a no man's land' has woken a lot of Yoruba on SM up & those not on SM are enlightened via radio. Stop saying nonsense.

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Politics / Re: How Eastern Region Sacked Eyo Ita The Original Winner Of Election by OgboAto: 10:42am On May 13, 2020
”Igbo domination of Nigeria is only a matter of time”- Charles Onyeama, a prominent igbo lawyer and member of the Central Legislative Council, 1945. (Page 204 ”Ethnic Politics In Kenya and Nigeria” by Godfrey

”It would appear that the God of Africa has created the Igbo nation to lead the children of Africa from the bondage of ages ….” – Dr Azikiwe, President of the Pan-Igbo Federal Union. (The West African Pilot of July 8, 1949)

The first statement from Charles Onyeama, which was made in 1945, was the first overtly tribal and divisive comment that was made and recorded in the politics of southern Nigeria in our history. That is where and when tribalism in the south actually started. After that comment, and as a direct reaction to it, the Yoruba established the ”Egbe Omo Oduduwa” to further and protect Yoruba interests and after that came the formation of the Action Group in 1948.

The second statement from Zik, which was made in 1949 (and which clearly shows that the great Zik of Africa had forgotten that the NCNC was not an Igbo party at the beginning and that it had in fact been established by an upper class and very well educated Yoruba man by the name of Sir Herbert Macaulay, one of the famous ”Black Victorians” from the Lagos Colony, and who, at his death bed, was gracious enough to hand over the leadership of the party to him even though he was Igbo) confirmed that tribalism was here to stay in the south and that ever since that time the Igbo had an agenda to dominate others. This sentiment and this unfortunate Igbocentric attitude is what cost Zik the premiership of the Western Region in 1953 when the NCNC narrowly lost to the Action Group.

It is clear from this that if you want to know who started tribalism in southern politics and the politics of the southern protectorate of Nigeria, it was not the Yoruba or the southern minorities but the Igbo. The excesses of the Igbo State Union and their treatment of the southern minorities and the Yoruba from 1943 till 1967 was completely unacceptable. The rest of the south were prepared to accept the Igbo as equals with open arms but they were not prepared to be politically dominated or conquered by them

Worst still, the first coup in the history of Nigeria, which was the Jan 15th 1966 coup d’etat, led by Major Ifejuana and Major Kaduna Nzeogwu, was essentially an Igbo coup and an Igbo grab for power. I say this because 95 per cent of those that took part in it were Igbo and 99 per cent of the political and military leaders that were brutally murdered during its execution were non-Igbo. It was this coup and its sheer brutality that led to the even more brutal northern officers counter-coup of July 1966 (in which 300 Igbo officers were killed in one night including the Igbo Head of State, Gen. Aguiyi-Ironsi, and his Yoruba host, the Military Governor of the Western Region, Adekunle Fajuyi who sought to protect him), the pogrom of Igbos in the north (in which over 100,000 Igbo civilians were killed in a few weeks) and the Nigerian civil war (in which 2 million Nigerians and Biafrans died).

These are the facts of our history. Live and learn. If you want to know who introduced tribalism into southern politics, it was the Igbo. If you want to know who carried out the first coup in our country, it was the Igbo. Having done the painstaking research over a number of years these are my findings and this is my conclusion

I will open my Facebook wall for a robust discussion and debate on this issue and I will accommodate contributions from even those that are not my Facebook friends just for this debate. I will accommodate all shades of opinion and contributions from anyone that cares to join in the fray and I want to encourage those that disagree with my findings to state their case. We are all still learning but please take note that any rude or insulting comments will be deleted. This is a historical debate and I would encourage all those that seek to quote anyone or make any assertions to mention their sources so that we can cross check the facts.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/105036-how-the-igbo-introduced-tribalism-to-nigerian-politics-by-femi-fani-kayode.html

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Politics / Re: How Eastern Region Sacked Eyo Ita The Original Winner Of Election by OgboAto: 10:31am On May 13, 2020
Dikebuka:


Recall that prior to Awolowo forming AG, he was in the same NCNC with Azikiwe.
What prompted him to form AG...

I will like you to read this little piece from your brethren

https://businessday.ng/columnist/article/the-1951-elections-how-awolowo-forced-azikiwe-out-of-western-nigeria/


Azikiwe collapse Igbo Union to NCNC thereby making the party a tribal party of the Ibo.

Go read books with sources discussing all of these. Begin with the Groundwork of Nigeria History by Obaro Ikime.

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Politics / Re: How Eastern Region Sacked Eyo Ita The Original Winner Of Election by OgboAto: 9:24am On May 13, 2020
Dikebuka:
Azikiwe messed up as man and as a leader..he was desperate and we agree.

But we cannot rule out the tribal role that Awolowo played that lead to this...the way he was kicked out..

Back to OP..
Why are you try to paint a a funny picture...

Azikiwe's style of politics was a lot too soon for Nigeria den..he made it seem as Igbos planned on domination.. Even me will be abit angry if someone from Tiv come to Imo to vie for position.

But we can't rule out the tribal game that Awolowo and his AG introduced into our political sphere.


What stupid tribal game did Awo introduce?

Azikiwe formed Igbo Union

He got the NCNC leadership after a Yoruba man's death.

He's from the east but chose to lead the west - why?

Awolowo formed Egbe Omo Oduduwa [ just like Igbo Union & Ibibio Union were formed]

Then all of a sudden Azikiwe got mad that Obafemi Awolowo formed a cultural group. Why?

Election was not so far away & Azikiwe collapse Igbo union into NCNC therefore making the Igbo the largest population of a party formed by a Yoruba man!

Awolowo did the same, Egbe Omo Oduduwa morphed into AG. Again, Azikiwe got mad.

Dude where is the tribal politics here? It seems to me, Azikiwe started the nonsense & what is with not staying in your region & coveting other people's region especially Lagos. What the fu.k was that about?

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Politics / Re: FLASHBACK: When Yakassai, Brigadier Abba Kyari Tackled Ekwueme Over Abacha’s Sel by OgboAto: 10:35am On May 12, 2020
What exactly is the point of the reportage?

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Politics / Re: Yoruba, Biafra Can Hoist Their Flag In Nigeria Now by OgboAto: 8:51pm On May 11, 2020
hammerP:
SO YORUBA CANNOT STAY WITH HAUSAFULANI AND TAKE TURNS ON PRESIDENCY WITH THEM.



WE IGBOS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN FORMING A NATION WITH YORUBA.



THAT CAN NEVER BE.


IF THAT IS THE ONLY OPTION, WE PREFER TO REMAIN WITH HAUSA AND FULANI, BECAUSE ALL THE PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY IS CAUSED BY YORUBA.


Who wants to form a country with an uncultured group with no history and no sense of history?
Our kith and kin are in Republic of Benin & Togo, if we have to extend we'll form a country with them. Not even the ND people will form a country with a barbaric group that just began wearing clothes in the 1920s

GTFOH!

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Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole's New Look: Hit Or Miss? by OgboAto: 6:20pm On May 11, 2020
First of all this is a foolish post.
There are several issues that are more important affecting you & several people directly which requires brainstorming & chatting over not what pattern of facial hair someone chooses to keep.

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Music/Radio / Re: & by OgboAto: 3:00pm On May 11, 2020
macof:
Thank you brother. @isalegan2

This is a scary period indeed, but we are trying to keep safe
Hopefully you are doing your best as well

Y'all should check this place out: https://discord./udTvCAg
Phones / Re: Iphone12 The Long Awaited Mobile Computing Machine by OgboAto: 9:05am On May 11, 2020
festwiz:


If they start at similar price points as the iPhone 11, they're looking at another Q4 success like they got last year with the base iPhone 11 topping the sales chart followed by the Pro model.

Rumours suggest that Apple will unveil 5 devices, so I'm quite hyped for the event.

Why are you hyped?

Do you have a stake in the Apple company or are the 5 devices to be unveiled going to bring you returns of some kind from your investment in Apple?

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Travel / Re: 17 FG Airports Not Viable, May Shut Down Over Losses by OgboAto: 8:45am On May 11, 2020
The millionaire Ibos scattered across SE don't use their own airports? grin
Health / Re: Oke Umurhohwo: Kano Is In Trouble But They Are Not Alone by OgboAto: 5:04pm On May 10, 2020
ImmaculateJOE:
Olright..

Our southern brothers need to learn how to mind their business. Busy body Oke Umurhohwo
All these imaginary deaths been reported in Jigawa, Bauchi & Kano are northern plot to draw sympathy from FG so the monies made in Lagos and Niger Delta will be given to them..
Same way they created Boko is haram to siphon some money from the better south.

I'm with you on this one.
The psuedo-sophisticated southerners out there always acting like there isn't enough problems in the south or their villages or in their neighboring states requiring attention.

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Politics / Re: Awolowo Came Out From Prison Without Meeting His Conspirators Alive. by OgboAto: 4:46pm On May 10, 2020
Gandollar:
See my siggy..

Actually, there are some of us who read widely & that informs opinions on SM.
Spend more time consuming book contents & you would not have to keep such a siggy.
Politics / Re: Awolowo Came Out From Prison Without Meeting His Conspirators Alive. by OgboAto: 11:19am On May 10, 2020
lukui:
Nice comments above by Baba Awo. North always believing power is their birth right, east always believing in restructuring or a fragment of them going to "you already know". South west always trying to bridge the gap but filled with backstabbers and betrayers. South south always bombing pipelines and relying only on crude oil.

What an old man saw whilst sitting, a child cannot see it even if he climbs and iroko!!!


Nah, throughout the constitutional conferences till 1967, the Ibo have always wanted a unitary government with all of the power being in the center.

1. Azikwe argued and pursued this vigorously at the constitutional conferences but he failed when Tafawa Balewa joined the West in wanting a regional system with a weak center.

2. After Ibo coupists killed everyone except fellow, Ironsi an Ibo man did not only refuse to prosecute Ibo coupists but also enacted unitary government with his decree 33. A unitary government that Azikiwe spent all of his life campaigning for.

3. The Ibo conspiracy had been to dominate if Nigeria had a unitary government. Remember the god of ibo speech given by Azikiwe? This was what revealed the Ibo plan to all other regions. After Ironsi's unitar delcaration, Ibo flocked all regions to take up civil service jobs and all kinds of appointments while protecting their own region from others in the same unitary system.

4. After the Hausa countercoup of July 1966, the Ibo tune changed from wanting a unitary government to wanting their own space of Biafra.

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Culture / Re: Benins Were The First Educated Nigerians. Dr Okafor by OgboAto: 5:40pm On May 06, 2020
TAO12:


Very soon the English dictionary will be uploade to accomodate new words in relation to the term inferiority complex.

We'll soon see something like:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
inferiority complex

Definition: ...

Related terms: Bini people of southern Nigeria.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------


cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Culture / Re: Benins Were The First Educated Nigerians. Dr Okafor by OgboAto: 5:18pm On May 06, 2020
TAO11:


No problem:

And their face-saving joke of Ibadan Publishers actually beats Bovi and Basketmouth at their professions. grin

Egharevba's mention of the practice of sending Benin Obas heads to Ife was published by The PortHarcourt Press.


These cats are a stupid set of Bini people.
They have an inferior argument with a mind wired shut to be anti-Yoruba. I'm not interested in their monarch having Yoruba origins but all of the literature before the 20th century indicate they themselves informed the writers they had connections with Ife. They have so much to put up against and they're handling it so badly that they're speaking ill of a man that spearheaded the writing of their history.

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Culture / Re: Benins Were The First Educated Nigerians. Dr Okafor by OgboAto: 4:59pm On May 06, 2020
TAO11:




cc: lawani


My G.

I was just looking through my system to find this exact joint.

Wa gbayi.

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Culture / Re: Benins Were The First Educated Nigerians. Dr Okafor by OgboAto: 4:52pm On May 06, 2020
gregyboy:




Should i show you from this article you screenshot were they said egharevba works was not accurate that he had to correct them with later versions



See when you're posting articles dont think we are dumb you cam just post articles to fool us....


That same article you made a screenshot of criticize egharevba works to be incorrect.....

Then you went there to pick a point.... As screenshot


What of subsequent books that egharevba wrote favouring the benins why didnt you reference it wss is not taken from the palace.......


Benins distorted thier history fine but we know why we did so dont use it as a point to lay favourism to your ife


No Benin-ife connections period

Roupell stated Ife-Benin connection according to your people in 1897, period!

Should I also show you were it said he went back to correct it because he was working with the King? And yet while working with the King and editing his work he still retained that the monarch origin was Ife. Do you want to see it?

And no, I am not projecting Ife favouritism I've only put out a bit of the records I have for you to reprocess your own history. And yes, I think you are all dumb.

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Culture / Re: Benins Were The First Educated Nigerians. Dr Okafor by OgboAto: 4:50pm On May 06, 2020
gregyboy:



His father was benin.......

His mother was ondo unless proven otherwise by you which you haven't done


If he got his info from the palace then why his the oba refuting most of his writeups...... Even from the very pareoba he got it from


Again i guess it was only one book you read about egharevba, for the record egharevba wrote 36 books and he rivesed his earlier works.......


Go and read up egharevba article on jstor if you need link tell me

His mum was Benin. He stated his genealogy in the second page following the coverpage of the book. Man, you're lucky I don't have it here with me, I would have put up a picture where he described his background. It was as if the man knew y'all would deny him at some point. His work was sanctioned & approved by your Oba of that period.

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Culture / Re: Benins Were The First Educated Nigerians. Dr Okafor by OgboAto: 4:38pm On May 06, 2020
RamessesIV:
Early Christians were jews and started in galilee,Christianity was originally a Jewish sect,it broke out and spread throughout the Mediterranean down to africa,oldest church is in syria,first christian countries where armenia and ethiopia before Rome,the roman empire was the power house of the mediterrean and controlled almost all of it after it went christian,early christianity centered there and got it organization there,and later divided into roman catholic(christianity of the western roman empire) and Eastern orthodox Christianity(christianity of the eastern roman empire)

You should read the Roman History or you read the History of Christianity in Roman Empire.

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