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i tot God used to be called ilah in arabic before d muslims called theirs Allah.

trully, i got confused reading this, but i'll try say something.

That we all would die is no excuse to take anybodies life.....

Yes!! God knows when everybody would die and how we all would die.

There are two types of death, the physical death and the spiritual death. The physical death is when the spirit seperates from the body. (know this, that the body is only a carrier of the soul and and spirit). This can come through old age,illness,accidents or by forcefull death.etc
thats why they also pay with their own.

In cases of forcefull death, the killer also pays with his own life according to the law.for forcefully seperating the soul from the body. It can be done by putting the body in an unworkable condition permanently(beheading,gun short, etc.) or for a particular period of time.(suffoction,drowning, etc)


the second death,
i learnt you don't believe in God, so you are free to intentional choose not to believe this.
This death is what we all should be most concerned about.(It is the one God is concerned about)

i hope this govt has prepared exact same amount or more for christmas.... If not whahala go dey oohh...

lol !!

Romans 3:4: 4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Men would forever be men, nomatter who they represent. And God will always be God.

i hope this govt has prepared exact same amount or more for christmas.... If not whahala go dey oohh.

hrhobi1: AHHH IBADAN DAT YEAR IBADAN GRAMMAR SCHOOL, GCI, IBADAN BOYS HIGH SCHOOL, EYINI GRAMMAR SCHOOL, METHODIST , ETC NA SWEET HISTORY

man no be small tins den oohh. I remember these sch's u mentioned, they were bully schools. Beating one of them is like beating all. They go come find you for house ni.
Another then was ANWARU ISLAM at ELEYELE, man dat school na devil sch. Always fighting day in day out.

what about used toothbrush, and braizilian hair? Heard they from dead people.

frosbel: Jesus Christ did not pre-exist as a being, he was begotten by God who overshadowed Mary with his Spirit.

through Jesus you hope to get eternal life, and you clam Jesus had a begining.

Does it mean,Jesus is giving you what he doesn't have ? Or your self and Jesus are mate now, since u both haven't tasted eternal life and both have a begining.

Ihedinobi: Well, with your deteriorating intellect, I can see why you wouldn't understand that some things can be too simple for great professors like you to understand.

Damnnn.......soooooo on point!!

tobechi20: ;-(;-( . My frend logic boy haz disqualified himself from heven. HE JUST INSULTED THE HAND THAT CREATED AND FED HIM.

I was hoping we would meet one day in heaven. ;-(;-( am cryin 4 u

Chill... GOD is still in the business of forgiving.

Thank you Jesus.

frosbel: "Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 1 Corinthians 11:3"
-PAUL

"The Father is greater than I am." (John 14:28)
-JESUS

"Jesus went on to say to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing." (John 5:19)
-JESUS

"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you - Matthew 6: 33"
-JESUS

"Wherefore God also hath [has] highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:- Philippians 2: 9 –"
-PAUL

"And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.- Luke 18: 18, 19"
-JESUS

all the quotes you've quoted did not mention jesus not being God.

We have said it manytimes that Jesus did not compare himself with the father. He hunbled himself even unto death. The bible states this clearly.

Philippians 2:6–8: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.


Jesus is not the father, Jesus refeered to the father most of the time. That he never ascribed glory to himself doesn't mean he wasn't or was different from God. They are all one.

The father also spoke "This is my beloved son in whom i am well pleased hear him" All members of God are all humble.

At his baptism with john the baptist, all three were present.

thank you.
Stay blessed.

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^^^You seem to have eliminated all the churches finish, abi na which one remain? With some names appearing more than once, i suppose slap that winch commoth for your brain!

make it multiple slapps. His winsh level has gone haywire !!!

ijawkid: But its a 2 way thing....

God does not accept all kinds of worship,that's why there are laid down precepts and principles.....

And how do u think we will gain salvation when we arbitrarily do what we like all in the name of trying to please God...

It would be like a runner who is set to run on a track dictating to the umpire on how he should run the race that is set b4 Him,thinking that it will @ the end of the day please the umpire.....


My bro I'm not forcing any1 to stop celebrating xmas but as Christians we need to test every single thing to see if it measures up with bible commands and principles....

ofcouse God does not accept any kind of worship, not even physical worship.
The sacrifice of God are a broken spirit and .....

Psalms 51:7,16–17: 16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give [it]: thou delightest not in burnt offering. 17 The sacrifices of God [are] a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. [...] 7 Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

You and I weren't there, soo we don't know how it was done. As long as they were broken, he done finish.

ijawkid: How can u sieze days and the exact tradition of the worshippers of the sun God and use it to praise God thinking God would accept such worship??

Is God that foolish so as not to be choosy on how we shoulÐ serve Him or not??

You talked about a shrine been destroyed and a church built on that §ame land right??

Ask yourself::::

What if the shrine wasn't destroyed @ all but rather the church was built right inside and alongside the shrine and also shrine activities been carried out right in the church??
What if the rites of that juju house is exactly what is been carried out right there in the church??
the making of sacrifices which is been practiced by an ifa priest,but professing to worshipping God with such juju practices....

How does that amount to doing Gods will??

Would Jesus do that??


Would that be right in Gods eyes??

what matters most to God is salvation, don't decide for him.

ijawkid: Now you are quietly asking the right question...

I'm nt really here to convince anybody that he or she must stop celebrating xmas...

But like u rightly asked::what is Gods command concerning xmas...

The truth is precepts and principles penned down in d bible is what should help an individual who claims to follow Christ make right decisions on what to do ,act and say....

Its just like when u try to convince a ciggerate smoker or one who is on marijuana that engaging in such acts aint compatible with d scriptures...

Meanwhile in the real sense the bible gives no clear cut command that smoking or the taking in of cocaine is bad...

But principles guide us....

The same goes for xmas or other practices that conflicts with principles in the scriptures...

If a custom that is purported to glorify Jesus doesn't have its origin from Jesus himself,then how does it apply or concern Jesus...??

To make it worse this custom had its origin on and from paganism not even from the person that is said to be the center of the whole custom......

The early christians who existed the same time of Jesus never got involved in celebrations or rites that had any dealings with pagans..

The truth is everythin about xmas has nothing to do with Jesus...

Now kindly tell me how xmas is related to Jesus??

I wanna hear from you...I wanna hear what bible precept or principle would give rise to the celebration of xmas.....

And what exactly has xmas accomplished??

Thank you

you still haven't answered ma kwesion.
What did the bible say about xmas?
That the early christians didn't celebrate xmas dosen't mean we can't. Its even possible they did but it wasn't recorded.
you spoke about the addict, it has been proven that the best way of of helping an addict is to replace his addiction with something else. I would believe thats what the catholic church did. Replace the worship of the sun God with christmas. The heavens most be soo proud of such wisdom.

ijawkid: You are most welcome....thanks.....

Now can you tell me one thing christmas has accomplished since its inception from paganism...

Let's analyze it....

*when the US landed in the moon, the put their flag as a sign of.
*When shrines in local villages a destroyed, right on the spot of the shrine a church is planted. As a sign of a new begining.
*Why should d sun god be speared. And him and his days we sieze for our God.

plappville: Oh, that's how you see it!.
But don't you think the lack of knowledge refers to those lacking knowledge as in Twisting the word of God to suit thier aims?
Does this liberty you are talking about annul Gods commands?

and what is Gods command concerning chrismas ?

plappville: Because we show you what Jesus warning on paganism feast and false doctrines, does not give you the room to call others who do not celebrate/partake in them USELESS and MISERABLE.

Is this how you can prove the bible validate Xmas? Mind you, not everyone here is a Jehovah Withness, the church we attend does not matter, it is the true word of God that matters, so be it Jehovah withness or celestian church, we do not care, Let the truth be revealed.

John 8:32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

If you are neither hot nor cold i will spit u out. That is the word of our God to those who are neither christians nor unbelievers

Revelation 3:16: 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Thats in the same class as miserable and useless. The class of the jehovah withness. But who am i to judge.

As for those who are not jehovah withness, the Bible says my people perish for lack of knowledge. Try Understand the liberty you have.

plappville: And the verse you qouted authorised you to add to the word of God?

To the bolded, it should be like this: C'est fini! ( it's all over!)

tanks for the correction. How i wish you could also learn when you need to.

truthislight: he is an MOG, that ^^^ is what they feed the sheeple.

Workers of lawlessness.

Good for you and them.

ijawkid: Do u hear yourself??

Do u give a damn about even what Christ thinks??


Because of self gratification you guys have adopted everything into christianity....

SMH!!!!!...

Then what is the essence of christianity when @ the end of the day we are so submerged into the world??

What seperates one who follows christ and from one who doesn't??

truthislight: he is an MOG, that ^^^ is what they feed the sheeple.

Workers of lawlessness.

Good for you and them.

It is you and your Jehovah withness founder that are the workers of lawlessness.

Our father keeps a remembrance of that day, when the world celebrates the birth of his son. And christ is happy. Yes! like many celebrations people use it to miss behave, but thats what comes with uncontrollable merriment and not only synonimous to christmas.

Santacluss the gift, the trees etc all add beauty to our joyous celebration. Soo keep to urselves andleave us alone. As i said earlier, the sun god did not create that day, our father did and he maketh the sun to shine on all, both christian and non christians so also the rain. So why shouldn't we celebrate him on any day we dim fit.....

Boomark: Please does this in any way prove that they should fast to him or prove trinity. We are now answering strong questions not this type na.

I will like you to go and research who gave him the disciples, bridegroom and bride, why we fast and who we pray to. It will help you to start proper.

Stick around, you will learn a lot from us.
Cheers.

i've been around all dis while ,read ur posts and they are all trash.
Where is the presence of the Holysprit in all ur discuss ?
Who is the Holyspirit?
What is the essence of the Holyspirit ?
And who sent the Holyspirit?

If you soo relly on the Bible like the muslims in the quran, what then is the essence of the holyspirit.

I still would like u interpret what Jesus meant with that statement.

tidytim: So who will you agree with based on sound bible exposition :

1. Catholic church that started the Trinity
2. JW that expose it for the fraud that it is

btw, I am not a JW and do not agree with them on all issues.

the catholic church did not start the trinity, it started in the bible, the catholic church been one of the first churches only brought it to the light.
Their is no lie about the trinity, their is only one God, and their are three that make this one. The father, the son(the word) and the holyspirit.

In the passage below
Mark 2:18–20: 18 And the disciples of John and of the Pharisees used to fast: and they come and say unto him, Why do the disciples of John and of the Pharisees fast, but thy disciples fast not? 19 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast. 20 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.

Tell me who had the power and authority to tell the disciples to observe a fast or not.
"Who should they fast to"? when he was with them. If he wasn't God, then would he make such a statement.

truthislight: not following the law of christ and the examples thereof is lawlessness.

ijawkid: We aint forcing nobody not to celebrate xmas....


You can do what you like....

You can adopt sango,oduduwa and egbesu festivals and add Christ to it and celebrate.....

Na ona sabi......

truthislight: not following the law of christ and the examples thereof is lawlessness.

and soo what ??
We are the decision makers for ourselves through the holyspirit.
What so ever we decree on earth is decreed in heaven, what we loose on earth is loosed in heaven. This is power given to us by our father and God.

And we choose to celebrate the birth of the giver of that right on the 25th of dec. We can still adopt more days for more christian celebrations, be it oduduwa day or sango day.
Na my papa make/get the day.

Ces fini.

i have always known jehovah witnesses are worse than unbeliever,
i never new it was this bad.

Twisting and turning d bible to fit their useless religion.

i have said it before, these brt stuff would continue to happen.
That road was not designed to be partitioned for brt use. It was a road specially constucted for nigerians to use freely.

Since fashola chooses to partiion the road for brt which is good, the army,police (on duty) should be allowed to use it, it is empty most of the time.

Top govt officials should also be allowed to use it, they are already on emergency. what other katakata does fashola wants for Nigerians to have permitted them to use it only in emergency periods. Na earth quake,floods or what? Abi na plane crash?

I don talk my own.

useless jehovah withness people !!

If you don't want to celebrate christmas good for you, miserable set of people. Soo when ever you hear christmas its the sun god dat comes to ur mind? Let it be to u as u want it. People who lack the spirit of God, the teacher of all things.
No different from the pagans themselves.

We have the liberty as christians to choose,convert,use any day for the celebration of our God. Its part of our right as christians to choose freely, so don't go muddling tins up with your lack of biblical cohorence and understanding.

@ frosbel and d anti trinity team, i need some explatn to these questions.

1. Who is the Holyspirit?
2. What is the function and necessity of the HolySpirit?
3. Who sent the Holyspirit, did He come of his own will?

who doesn't believe inevolution?

funny.....