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Justin288: I rather do DIY than buy some of these fancy lithium packages. I first learnt about lithium on this group 10months ago and started researching and getting all the devices I needed gradually. Last week able to setup my 15s120p. 230Ah tested. With plans for 5 rows of 15s expansion. At least I know what am dealing with. Covid 19 Lockdown helped sha.
Wow! I am still trying to understand why doing they many pieces of lithium is preferred over getting the bigger prismatic cells of LFP? I see you are running MPP, that's cool apparently we have many MPP users here
on4a: What's going on with meristem sending a link for client update form over the weekend? https://forms.meristemng.com/client-update-form/? Is this legit? Too much details being requested and I just wonder why I can't update this directly on my meritrade online account.
I didn't receive this
Edit: I have now seen it, strange they are asking for such huge information and putting 48hrs deadline. Something must be wrong somewhere
spartacus11: Yeah the guy on the YouTube link talk about balancing, and he said onece in 4-6 months
But i was thinking if i stay within the allowed charging and discharging capacity will that be fine without BMS?
Also it seems like Smart Chargers for lead acid battery will also do better in charging of Lifepo4, the highest Volts on my smart charger is 14.8V the amp the highest amp is 8.6A for 12v and about 4A for 24v
Most of the voltage i have seen for lifepo4 is 14.4V my question is will the 8.6A be enough to charge a 12.8v 105Ah bank of Lifepo4
8.6A will charge an LFP it's just a matter of how long it will take to charge. You should get a more powerful charger, i think @Juo said he has a 40A. Fyi I have a 50A 24v
Depending on charging source, at 3.45v can get the battery full.....you were probably already at over 90% when you stopped. The charging current would have tapered down if you allowed it a few more minutes. Just curious why did you stop? Were you doing the charging without BMS?
JUO: first test. I think is better to stop at 3.1v. Let me observe the voltage after 3.1v
Yeah since it's still new you will get a little above capacity (say 110AH) just for a few cycle. Trust me it was almost full by the time you started the test
spartacus11: Ok thanks my initial plan was to go 24V but lead acid, since i am going lifepo4 i had to settle for the 12V
The inverter does not have inbuilt charger it is a stand alone inverter
Ok the makeskyblue 40A or 60 which will be better as i don't want to use more than 4 panels 250-360w panel because of space, make landlord nor go vex for the roof mata
I will search for the 12V LFP charger
Get the 60A makeskyblue or powermr both are of similar spec.
I will work on adding solar to the set up later, how many Watts panel do you think i need to plan for since i am going for the 12V lifepo4 bank
But i think i will start with Nepa changing first, bcus of Budget limitation, so what type of charger will you recommend?
This is the inverter i will be buying the 12V 4000W which is actually 1800-2000W in reality, its budget friendly and the review online seems to show it sine wave is actually clean
Nominal voltage is 3.2, resting voltage is the voltage when the battery is not charging and not on load. That can be anything, but the figure when it's full should be around 3.35.
If you are doing 12v, you can get the makesky CC or any other MPPT controller. The inverter you are buying is okay, but if it has inbuilt charger, don't use to charge via utility as it not meant for LFP. I currently only have 24v LFP chargers may have a few more 12v in future but you can check jiji for those (if you are lucky)
Conductor261: How can you compare the w202 to the w203?
Am not comparing am basically talking about your once hit porthole declaration. A c230 that enter porthole and breakdown down is a scenario that can happen to any other Benz as well.
sabcurr: Received my 2013 LEXUS GX460 TODAY that was on board Hoegh Singapore. Total duty paid to customs N2.208m... Excluding other running/clearing expenses.
adrusa: I have no regret investing in these "cheap" Lithium. I can not pay the price people are asking for pylontech, BYD or Battleborn. I'm a poor civil servant.
Right, you don't even need to be poor to go the efficient and reasonable route; If I can get double capacity of pylontech at same cost, why not. Nevertheless I commend those that use the fancy plyontech as well as they have their reasons... It's just a case of one man's food(breakfast) is another man's food (dinner) but not another man's poison. All na food/LFP eventually
spartacus11: There is also one Specification sheet i saw of Lifepo4
It agrees with you submission
End of discharge voltage 2.5V
The 3.6V you talk about is it the Full charge limit
Am i correct
Lifepo4 for a 12V Bank
Normal Voltage 3.2V x4=12.8V
Full charge voltage 3.6Vx4=14.4V
Discharge limits voltage 2.5vx4=10V
You are correct except that it's not a full charge voltage but rather a charge voltage (bulk voltage or in lithium terms Constant voltage CV). This is typically charging the cells at voltage higher than the resting voltage in other to get enough amps in as the CC set-up permits. So you can charge a Lifepo4 up to 3.65v but the eventual resting voltage when it's full is about 3.35v..I personally don't charge up to 3.65 as it's not necessary, anything from 3.45 bulk will get your cells charged to at least 90% capacity. I use the following at the moment for my 24v (due to solar CC float bug issues that puts my system into early float)
Bulk - 28.2 Float - 27.2 (note that you really don't need a float for LFP but I can't disable it unfortunately) Battery cutoff - 24v
If you are only charging from utility your bulk would be fine at 27.6v.
Note for a 12v system you don't want to discharge to 10v, I suggest you stick with 12v as the minimum. If your system permits, 12.5v low disconnect is better. By the time you are at 3v per cell, you've already taken over 90% out of the battery
Just imagine the level of inefficiency in lead acid. Apart from the fact that recommended discharge level of lead acid is 50% to get reasonable cycle out of it, you loose additional 10 to 15% due to Peukert effect. So when we say that a 100AH Lifepo4 is equal to or more than a 200AH lead acid[b] in practice[/b] I don't think we will be exaggerating
LifePo4 battery can deep discharge till 100% DOD. Even the voltage goes down to nearly 0 volt shortly, it can still recharged to rated voltage
While you can discharge a Lifepo4 to 100% capacity without major issues, it's not applicable to the voltage. If the voltage gets below 2.5v then the battery is toast. It's certainly doesn't look correct to me that you can discharge a Lifepo4 to bear 0 volts but you can discharge to hear zero capacity so long as you are still within the 3.6 to 2.5 band
spartacus11: Lifepo4 seems to look easy to put together just like lead acid battery
Lifepo4 is one of the most interesting to put together, just like the lead acid indeed. Just don't mix up the series/parallel arrangement of the cells.