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Politics / Re: America Takes Over Nigeria (my Dream) by olabowale(m): 10:30pm On Jan 09, 2010
davidylan and co want to become houseboys for Americans.
Politics / Re: America Takes Over Nigeria (my Dream) by olabowale(m): 10:28pm On Jan 09, 2010
David needs to get out often. Rochester is a village, the very reason he does not know that no next door settlement to Las Vegas belongs to Native Americans, even the Old west outpost "Carson city" of the wild wild west era. Maybe he is thinking about New Mexico, Arizona, and other place, but not Las Vegas, Nevada.

To say Native Americans have a stake in the gambling business in Las Vegas, is to say that they still own lower Manhattan, or owning the Atlantic City boardwalk! Is that possible, in the matters of Economy?
Politics / Re: America Takes Over Nigeria (my Dream) by olabowale(m): 10:18pm On Jan 09, 2010
@Davidylan: You need to be called abd-america. I am not holding up in the Big Apple. Soon, inshaAllah, I will return permanently to my roots. I am asking myself, after all the benfits you got from Nigeria, you hated this this much, still? I wo yi o nse ara wa. There is no yoruba in you. I doubt if you are a nigerian, at all! You should return the Ijebu names, and her blood, and keep the other one. Maybe they will ask for it. Maybe not, but we the Yorubas know that your thoughts about Nigeria is unyoruba. Even the children born here love Nigeria, yet here you are abandoning your post before the train has a chance to head towards its destination.

I tell you, with or withour you, Nigeria shall suceed. Amin. You are just one person and those wo think like you are just that!

David, which of the casinos in Las vegas is owned by Native Americans? You can tell me because I know enough about Nevada to know that there is no Indian gambling outfit, in DownTown area (Freemont Street experience area) or the New Strip/MGM Grand, but mostly woned by the boys from New York, Cucuran, Winns, and Ensigns! Please go sedon! The real estate condition has replaced the Sin city, and its now Sober city!
Islam for Muslims / Re: A Muslim Nairalander Responds To Farouk's Problems: What Do You Think? by olabowale(m): 9:34pm On Jan 09, 2010
@Davidylan: « #57 on: Today at 08:32:37 PM »
Its too early to be on alcohol.
The very reason I have been telling you to not sniff the fumes from the experiment, too much!

Yes Abd is the term for blacks in the middle east. Blacks like you muttallab.
Every Muslim, Adam the first man, his wife, Enoch, Noah, Ibrahim, Lut, etc, etc, Jesus son of Mary, Muhammad (AS), etc, Abu Bakr, etc, Yusuf Hamzah of Zatuna Institute in Hayward California, the US Congressman from Minnesota (Elis), me and others are! And we are not all blacks and not all from the middle east! You have terrible way of arguing.

Err what has this to do with the question of Sudan?
watch Larry King live, monday, you will finally understand!

Try and be original. Pointless.
Why? If people give you garbage, then respond with the same type garbage. Aburo, as I love you, the same way I dislike your evil ways! Your originality, in a direct way is what I responded to in kind!
Politics / Re: America Takes Over Nigeria (my Dream) by olabowale(m): 9:14pm On Jan 09, 2010
David, did you say you are from Ijebu Ode? Today, we the Ijebu people, indeed the yorubas divorce you until you change your mindset! If you have another blood from Nigeria, maybe they can keep you, or maybe not! Aa ji se bi yoruba lanri, yoruba oo nji se bi enikon kon! Any invader of Nigeria will meet greatest resistance from all her bloodlines! Except the hypocrites and we know who they are, always ready to capitulate, and no honors.

A man who wishes another people to invade his home and definitely disstabilise it, as he overthrows his home, can expect that he is less than a full man. How do you wish to be a servant and be enslaved by humans just because you like their lifestyle, yet you can be a slave of your Creator, is actually a proof of how his heart is a lying heart! What shall america and american have that any people would wish that america invade them? Dont you have any shame, human dignity, the spirit of must do for yourself and must struggle to do the best to rise higher?

When america invades you, his men will rape your women, that will include, mothers, grandmothers, aunts, sisters, nieces and cousins and next door neighbors!

The yorubas say ediye bere ko to woo ago e, alara gbe ara e ga. Bi ete osun won, elenu a ponla. Alagbara lomo olokele loju iya e. David, why would you want america to take over the other place that you still have its blood, because the yorubas do not wish it for their worst enemy? We will not want anybody to abuse us and definitely our women are not available for anyone by force!

And those who use the owo osi juwe ile baba e, are those who want others to capture them and enslave them! 1000 years ago, there was no USA. so Nigeria shall rise, InshaAllah and become a country of world eminence! Those of our children born outside Nigeria will not even want their forebearers country to be invaded. Only your type of nigerian americans will, the reason I think the new citizens are always the worst type of citizens! Iwo David, kilo le mue fe nkon buruku be fun ilu awon obie, ibi ti won bie si, to je wipe omi e lo koko mu?
Islam for Muslims / Re: A Muslim Nairalander Responds To Farouk's Problems: What Do You Think? by olabowale(m): 8:29pm On Jan 09, 2010
@Davidylan: « #55 on: Today at 07:05:35 PM »
lol does this person know that slavery is STILL a problem ONLY in islamic nations?
you often display the Ostrich syndrome that I just have to remind myself if you even leave that Lab of yyours for anything else, like going to Lake Seneca to know that at Sunsat, the surface of that water is Murky? Stavery is happening right here in the USA. The sweat shops in the garment industry, 7th avenue of NYC, the restaurant business; chinese fast food joints, sex shops, the owrld over, including your master's country of Israel, and others, including Nigerians using their "people" from Nigeria as slaves, each and all are acts of slavery!

Is he aware of the term "abd" and what it means?
Abd is slave or servant. While am Abd of God, you are abd of dollar or popularity, whatever people agree is good, even though its Yawwwk is okay by you. Stop being so dishonest!

Does he know the genesis of the problem in Sudan?
How about the genesis of the what is even happening in America's racist quarters? The white people in their elite positions are still calling President Obama, Hussaine not because they are being honest, but because of their "slurring"! You are not making any sense!

Muslims can make you laugh. Such outstanding muttallabism.
Christians can make me laugh. Such outstanding Paulinism.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Can You Perform Umrah For The Faithful Departed? by olabowale(m): 7:43pm On Jan 09, 2010
and there is nohing called foundamentalist Muhammadan. Duh! Maybe foundamentalist Pauline; thats even corect. Or foundamentalist Jesusian? (lol).

Those satanic dealing Christians are beside thenselves in Ignorance, calling a mere Jilbab wearing, long bearded, a muslim look alike, a son of Adam (AS), God! Does God die, making Him mortal, like every one else. Whats the difference between Christianity and Hinduism? Nothing, except that the Christian substitutes Jesus in place of COW! The others are like the father and ghost.

Boys, I have been telling you, particularly Emeka to get away from certain peril, you begin to throw around nigerian pride. How will that benefit you in the day of Judgement before the Only God Who has no partner? You are in for a terrible time. We the muslims of Nairaland are now free of your evil. To you your way and to us, ours.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Can You Perform Umrah For The Faithful Departed? by olabowale(m): 7:14pm On Jan 09, 2010
@the_truth, and Aloy~Emeka:I pray for him, even now. That is Islam, full of kindness, mercy, etc. I blame his father for not taking a greater control of the young man he is old enough to be his grandfather. I also blame those people who did not connect the dots, since here in New York, the motto; if you see something, say something is the order of the day, just imagine the people in the US government whose father told about what he suspects his son of, and they all ignore it, allowing him near an airport right away?

Look, how many fathers in christendom could report his son's potential evil intent to his "enemy" who will be too happy to have him killed or destroyed, yet the enemies drop the ball and you do not accept that there is enough blame to go around; the boy and his father and mother and those in authority who did not not act accordingly to prevent the disaster? Can you report your christian son to any muslim nations, his emenies who may have him killed, yet no one pays any attention from the muslim nation and you do not blame your yourself and those whom you reported him to, but he alone? What are your roles as a father and the role of the people in authority to make sure no harms come to the citizens?

Now as to your question, yes, if he dies or does not have the opportunity to ever be free to make Hajj and or Umrah, somebody who loves him to have a good end can make them for him. His social crimes, a collection of crimes that must not be underestimated must not be a reason that one wshes him well to have a good end. He will pay his debt to the society, yet Allah can forgive him. Am sure unlike your Jehovah or Yahweh who may never forgive, even after a person is punished for crimes against humanity. Heck, Jesus did not forgive the thief on his left. He didnt forgive Judas, either, though thats how his prediction came about. Ugly religion full of hates, subtle and overt you people practice!
Religion / Re: The Evidence Of The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by olabowale(m): 6:46pm On Jan 09, 2010
@Olaadegbu: I am asking myself if you knew that the whole of the Gospel is a collection of statements, some true ascribed to God, Angels, Prophets based on hearsay, yet other parts are completely false based on personal desires of the writers. We see that Jesus did not pen part of it, and no disciples of his penned any part, while Jesus was "preaching", so that accuracy of his speech could be safegauarded!

Grown people should know that as times go on, memories are lost to even a point where the truth is actually now blurred with lies. This is the case we find in the Bible. If you have used your Dr. F. to represent the truth because the he argued that the writers were honest enough to show their own weaknesses, infalliabilities, etc, I think he forgot but you and others with your type of mndset of calling human being god and God a three personality being need to be reminded that no true "disciple" wrote any of the canonized "Gospels", except that their names were borrowed! Thats the first proof against the Gospel writers that they could not be trusted. Further, when Jesus himself by Matthew 4 verses 1-11, Mark 12 verse 29, the Lord's prayers, other beggings, cryings, weepings, supplicatings, of Jesus, including the Gashimane many prayers including 'take the cup off my head', etc, and the crying on the cross "my God, my God, forsaken me?!" versus Jesus being the son of God, God Himself, and even his existence before Abraham, failing to mention Adam, the first man, and even to say before creations. Now how do you reconcile these two completely opposite views, except that one of them or both are lies, but they cant be true, not possible!

I could easily discuss the alleged death, but i will leave that alone, since we all know that blood was still flowing and no time did rigormortis was reached, and no one can assume that a cave is now a grave, when a grave by the Children of Israel custom calles for digging of the earth, putting the dead in it and cover the body by piling the soil on it. Do the Children of Israel go about keeping their dead for 3 days with every intent of robbing concortion of spices and oil on the body, while they do not do the tahara wash and shrouding? Olaadegbu, please wake up from your slumber, man!

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Imam Abu Hanifah And The Atheist (beautiful Story). by olabowale(m): 3:14am On Jan 09, 2010
Tudor, do you know if Oxygen exists and what is the vastness of its existence? Give me dimensions, etc, weight. Then have you seen it before? If you have not seen it, why do you take it that it is in existence except the effect of it that you feel? Give me emperical evidence that Oxygen exists?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Can You Perform Umrah For The Faithful Departed? by olabowale(m): 2:17pm On Jan 08, 2010
Allah reserves 99 portions of Mercy for the day of Judgement, while only a single portion is used on the earth, for all things creations need to sustain their lives. Yes, Allah's Mercy, Forgivenesss is stronger than His Anger, Wrath.

You dont wanna learn, Emeka. You are a darn hypocrite. Read your posts as undeniable proofs; the woman whose picture you posted as a person who adopted 3 gods religion.

By the way, to show you some irregularities; the orthodox christian just celebrated Christmas this past few days. I bet December 25, is not the day of birth to them!
Religion / Re: Which Biblical Person Would You Like To Chat With, And Why? by olabowale(m): 2:00pm On Jan 08, 2010
@kunleOshob: a person who committed suicide will go to hell, for sure. Hence, he or she can never be a role model or a savior. so your statement in response to abu zola is actually off the mark. if what you are saying is correct, then you have just sanction suicidal killing, which will actually mean that you are an evil person!

you are rather a follower of paul who glorified all bad things, making them seemingly good, instead of what they really are! he didnt get that from Jesus for sure. and jesus couldnt have said that his suicide was to save anyone.
Religion / Re: Testify By Yourself: Christianity & Islam by olabowale(m): 1:35pm On Jan 08, 2010
@Nezan; « #137 on: Today at 11:10:07 AM »
Quote from: olabowale on Yesterday at 11:49:25 PM
Arrogant statement, especially when you consider Nezan as a good man. He is rotten like a bad egg.
. . . and you are rotten as an ostrich egg abi?
why ostrich egg, unless you are obsessed with it?

an egg on which the flat carpet of the earth can be spread?
when you look at the earth in Abuja where you live, what do you see with your own eyes, a flat earth or a spherical earth? If Allah said the earth is simply "flat" and stop, for those who have eye to observe, that will be correct, because what you will see is relatively flat, compared to the massive earth that you know exist, since Calabar is very far away from Abuja!It is similar to when it is expressed that the sun rises. we know that the sun does not rise, except that what you visually observe is that the sun is rising based on the earth movement relative to its own movement! So there is no place that Allah says the earth is flat, or the earth is a carpet! What were used were qualifiers (like, as, etc) to give comparisons. I am sure you fail to connect the dots!
An egg as big as the earth must be relatively flat enough that you are able to stand on it, without shifting your center of gravity position so that you can attain your body balance or equilibrum, the very reason you are not as if you are descending or ascending a mountain/slopy surface everytime you move! You can read more about the shape and the changes thereof of the earth from the following; From www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm:

Let me tell you olabowale or whatever you call yourself,
But you know that Olabowale is my name. Thats an authentic Nigerian name. Is Nezan a nigerian name? Am just asking, because I dont know!

islam has done nobody any good,
You must be naive, if you truly believe what you have said. I think you and the pope are of the same clothe. but shame on liars will continue to pour on their heads, the very reason the pope at 80 plus years was thrown on the floor for the whole world to see, even in all the ceremonial garbs and the swiss security surrounding him, he was still made to fall. Is that what you want your condition to be man, some young person robbing your face on the floor even when you that old?

rather than turning innocent children into suicidal terrorists.
I was a young man once. Many muslim adults were youths, once upon a time. I know plenty of youth who are law abiding citizens of the world. All of them muslims. You do not make any sense, if your idea is that a million people out of 1.5 Billions is enough to label the whole. Shall we then use that process to say that all nigerians, are 419ers, which will qualify you as an authentic 419er?

I believe you will presently be facing tough screening in the US wherever you go now,
dont worry about me, man i can handle my condition.

because islam turned Farouk into a suicidal terrorist and the whole bad image is enveloping us Nigerians who are not muslims . . .
You have bad image before Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, so do something about the image. Let Nigeria begin house cleaning.

to hell with islam and its terrorist manual!
To hell with you, Christianity and its terrorist manual!!!
Islam for Muslims / Re: Imam Abu Hanifah And The Atheist (beautiful Story). by olabowale(m): 12:58pm On Jan 08, 2010
@tudor: « #21 on: Today at 07:16:34 AM »
Quote from: olabowale on Today at 03:28:13 AM
let me ask you lady Tudor, who created the roacks, stones, etc, if its not Allah? You are stuck with only Zuma, ignoring all the other rocks, and stones on earth? Chai!

This is getting embarrassing.
And YOUR EVIDENCE allah created it IS WHAT?
of the bolded, enough of your ignortance, mister. if the people are making fool of you, lying to you by calling you a woman, am not ashamed to call you what you are, man! you dont even know which brain you are using to think, big or the other, or you buried the big one in the sand.

do you think you have came out of nothing? are you nothing, or the people whose bloods flow in your veins you are going to tell us came out and therefore nothing? they will be happy to hear thatr from you, so that they can quickly turn you out, divorce you from the family and demand that you return their names to them. then as a lonely man, you will become an illegitimate man (i hope you know that it is your stupidity that am attacking here, and nothing else, hopefully your brain can take the meaning; you came out of nothingness?!), with no lineage, whatsoever! even the monkeys you claim that you came from have defined lineage, and specie identity!

whatever you think you came out of, do you think it is not created? What is creation but make? everything made has a maker? Who is your Maker, Tudor? The earth you reside on, did you think it just happen to occur without its Master Producer? You will be hungry soon; what you will eat, the plants and animals of that meal, do you think they have no Master Producer?
Religion / Re: Between Jesus And Mohammed! by olabowale(m): 3:43am On Jan 08, 2010
@Toba: read this about earth in the Quran:

From www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm:

Scientists have proven that the earth have gone through several stages and shapes. Allah Almighty, by His Divine Wisdom and Mercy, chose to speak in the language of notions so that the right interpretation would slowly and surely be discovered by man as man keeps developing in knowledge and technology. Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said:

Narrated Abu Huraira: "I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "I have been sent with Jawami al-Kalim (i.e., the shortest expression carrying the widest meanings), and I was made victorious with awe (caste into the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the earth were brought to me and were put in my hand." Muhammad said, Jawami'-al-Kalim means that Allah expresses in one or two statements or thereabouts the numerous matters that used to be written in the books revealed before (the coming of) the Prophet. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Interpretation of Dreams, Volume 9, Book 87, Number 141)"

As we clearly see, the Prophet said that he was sent to reveal pithy words, which are short in quantity and rich in meanings and interpretations.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Imam Abu Hanifah And The Atheist (beautiful Story). by olabowale(m): 3:28am On Jan 08, 2010
let me ask you lady Tudor, who created the roacks, stones, etc, if its not Allah? You are stuck with only Zuma, ignoring all the other rocks, and stones on earth? Chai!
Religion / Re: Testify By Yourself: Christianity & Islam by olabowale(m): 11:49pm On Jan 07, 2010
@e-mail: « #134 on: Today at 10:36:19 PM »
Olabowale you make me feel sick and pity because of you. Reason! When did the of the calender came out? Was it not after Jesus's death? People began to count a.d. How do you expect that to reflect in the BIBLE? Baseless and lame arguement.
There was a BC. You are a bore!

Leap year, 28 days, 3 years nonsense. I have answered the question above if you can figure it out. And science, it came 100s of years after the Prophets, Christ have gone and the BIBLE has been written, so you cant find leap year in it.
Did the speed with which the earth revolved and the loop (orbital path) that the earth moved changed, since Jesus is all that matters to you, docking the obvious that you and Harold etc proof nothing, since the 24 period is a complete revolution of the earth, etc!?

Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand.
Jesus said this a long time ago, and the kingdom of God is not yet at hand, since Jesus said just after then that he does not know the time of the hour.

If after all these proves, your heart is still hardened, I would not be held responsible on the day of judgement.
Obviously, you are not a proponent of "Rapture!" That makes 2 of us as disbelievers in Rapture!

God knows that I and good people like Nezan and the rest have tried and brought out proves for you to see and believe.
Arrogant statement, especially when you consider Nezan as a good man. He is rotten like a bad egg.

Your blood will not be required from my hand on the day of judgement.
Alhamdulillah. Allahu Akbar. This is what we have been saying to you for a long tme. Your blood will not be required from Jesus's hand on the day of Judgement, in the same way mine will not be asked from your hand!

If you believe this with me say after me; Lord Jesus, I now know the light and truth. I am sorry for acting the way I acted against you. Forgive me, come into my heart. I believe you died for me. I now accept you as my Lord and Saviour. I know now I am saved because I have confessed with my mouth that you are Lord. Thank you for saving me. In Jesus' name. Amen.
human god worshipper! You and hindu or buhdist are idol worshippers. I will not join your gang of disbelievers.

If you said this prayer, post it on this thread and we will be glad to know you better and help you. God bless you all. Amen.
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@Realtol: « #135 on: Today at 11:05:14 PM »
Olabowale how far? Happy new year to u dude! Igba wo lo jade?
Iwo shi wa latimole ntie lo fi mo pe won timi mole nigba kon kon! Elewon ara e, bi baba mi [ra] she ma npe Awolowo ni elewon!
Islam for Muslims / Re: Imam Abu Hanifah And The Atheist (beautiful Story). by olabowale(m): 11:24pm On Jan 07, 2010
lady tudor [lol], who created you, or at least how did the female egg and the male sperm get to form you in mommy's tommy, when she and dad were once upon a time, just children, even they did not exist, because grandparents where just babies themselves, and they did not even exist, before?
Religion / Re: Testify By Yourself: Christianity & Islam by olabowale(m): 10:27pm On Jan 07, 2010
e-mail is forgetting that Jesus was a jew by blood, and not God! Jesus calculated and did everything his cultural people did; their foods, everything and their laws and prophets. if jesus did all of these as an ethnic Jew, then his calculation of a day must follow the same jewish ruling, sundown to sundown!
Religion / Re: Testify By Yourself: Christianity & Islam by olabowale(m): 10:18pm On Jan 07, 2010
@e-mail: « #131 on: Today at 09:59:26 PM »
You see where it has come to? Olabowale what is wrong with that mind of yours and the ones of those people that dont want to accept that they've lost. Regarding the issue of Joshua, it is very clear enough that I didnt do the calculation, Mr. Harold did, a prove you always wanted. They did the calculations and deduced that those books of the BIBLE were absolutly correct, or did you see that I calculated it? Did they discovery not make any sense at all to you? Use your brains and stop being brain-washed.
I asked a very simple question, since the good harold calculated 24 hours, as a day; what happened to the earth swimming away still, while the sun stood still? Ask your big engineer for the answer, because without the earth and the sun standing still, for starter, darkness will fall upon Joshua. Darkness after a long daylight is nighttime or darkness of the night! I asked for leap year's February 29, you are avoiding the issue. Typical Christian gimmick. It will not work with me. Go ask harold for explanation. and while you are at it, know that we need you to locate Trinity in the Bible, because it is not there!


About Jesus timing, you dont have a point. I have said it times without number that you read the BIBLE to find arguement. For God sake, is your eyes so blind that when you were reading it said it was midday that the sun became darkened? Open your eyes and read well. Mark 15 vs 33. He died at 3 0' clock. The difference between Jesus and Prophet Isaiah's timing was that Prophet said the sun should go back 10 degrees as a sign which God honoured. Jesus never have timing of hours, He only said 3 days. From Friday to Sunday is how many days? Has that answered that lame question?
Dumb luck answer will not work with me. 3 0'clock friday to 3 0'clock Monday will be 3 days! Sunday, at best is 2 days, and its short for 3 days, still. Use some common sense.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Can You Perform Umrah For The Faithful Departed? by olabowale(m): 9:51pm On Jan 07, 2010
Emeka dont play silly, please. I can tolerate your hatred of Islam, but you are obviously not paying attention to the fact that I said you can do it, after you have done it for yourself, first, say a year before!
Religion / Re: Testify By Yourself: Christianity & Islam by olabowale(m): 9:46pm On Jan 07, 2010
@e-mail:
Noah's ark, the one my good brother broke down to you, do you know it has been found? That was bearly a millenium years after the earth was created.

www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm

Do you want more prove?
In the Quran, there is a chapter titled "Noah", and the reason the people of Noah were perished was given. What is it in the Bible?

The Quran gave you the reason and process that led to their destruction. I do hope the Bible has a good explanation.
Religion / Re: Testify By Yourself: Christianity & Islam by olabowale(m): 9:09pm On Jan 07, 2010
by the way e-mail, did the earth also stood still, if the sun did, as you said? I know from your opinion that the earth did not stand still, hence, the night will come upon Joshua, anyhow and your statement will fall flat on its face.

Allah says that the celestral bodies; earth, sun, moon, etc are going along in their arbits, according to the Will/Command of Allah. This alone is enough to explain anything, unlike your sun standing still, while the earth is not, which will result in the same condition; night will fall on Joshua! The Biblical god must have misjudged the consequence of earth still swimming along, while the sun foated, still, without any movement!
Religion / Re: Testify By Yourself: Christianity & Islam by olabowale(m): 8:10pm On Jan 07, 2010
@e-mail:
Mr. Harold Hill, President of the Curtis Engine Company in Baltimore, a scientist, has a prove.
www.snopes.com/religion/lostday.asp
If a mere prophet Isiah was so correct about 10 degrees being 40 minutes, compensating for the part of the missing day that that was lost in the ancient time, how is it that a god, human Jesus was so incorrect about calculating the three days he was to spend in the belly (grave) of the earth? You had calculated a whole day to be 24 hours, please reconcile that with just before sundown on friday to just before sunrise the following sunday to come out with 24 times 3 hours, which should not be less than 72 hours! If you cant calculate it I am hereby declaring to you that Jesus must not know enough how many hours that make a whole day! This goes to the heart of the question if Jesus actually died, and its even more of an indictment that Jesus did not know "all", just like he did not know the time of the hour, the very reason he must not even be called "God" by those who have "wisdom."

Did anyone notice that they are using old testament of the jews to justify their Christianity, when the Jews dont have any regard for Jesus, and the christians accept the Torah only to "proof" and all other times reject it; including God being One, never been Seen, etc?

mr. e-mail, can you explain from the Bible the differences between Leap year aving 29 days in February, against the consecutive 3 years that have 28 days in February.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Can You Perform Umrah For The Faithful Departed? by olabowale(m): 3:22pm On Jan 07, 2010
No one knows the balance measures between the good on one side and the evil on the other in the Scale, all of them good and evil and scale are unseen. Muslims are always in the mood to do good, seeking the Mercy of Allah. The Hajj and Umrah for departed souls should be done, after you have performed for your own soul!

Doing good by persons alive so that the benefit may reach the departed is in itself good, a thing of hope and mercy. The doer of good will receive a full measure of what the good is worth, inshaAllah. The departed if Allah Wills will receive the benefit, wiping out the evil from the record, and adding the good on the record. This may be from the "Sadaqah Jahria; good received from what is left behind". If its not from it, imagine the kind heatedness of the person doing good to benefit a departed soul?

Islam is full of hope, even after death! That is head and shoulders above, better than others!
Islam for Muslims / Re: Imam Abu Hanifah And The Atheist (beautiful Story). by olabowale(m): 2:54pm On Jan 07, 2010
@Tudor, of course am irrelevant, pretty woman. lol; thank God there are other women different from you who think am relevant!

And my proof that Allah created them are many; neither you nor I created them! What is nature? Can it creates, carves without ability to create, or carve? No! The Master of nature (the collage of things in existence, including seen and unseen things) is Allah the UNSEEN. Can pure water errodes a rock? no.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Imam Abu Hanifah And The Atheist (beautiful Story). by olabowale(m): 2:29pm On Jan 07, 2010
@Tudor: « #5 on: Today at 02:01:06 PM »
You and your abu- douchebag are indeed daft.
if you are trying to pass for a woman, this very line betrays your shallow effort.


Haven't you seen logs of wood/rocks shaped like boats or human faces by different forces of nature?
the shaped like boats rocks, i hope you dont try to travel in it? Allah says in the Quran; Allahu Qallaqa kum, Allahu taa maalun (Allah is your Creator and the Creator of that you create). The logs of wood, the rocks, or the human faces by all the different forces of nature, according to you, in my own understanding, when you think hard and get to "Who, What" is making it happens, you will finally find its Maker (Allah the AlmightyWho has no comparison).


Who created those, your father?
The Creator is Allah!
Islam for Muslims / Re: Imam Abu Hanifah And The Atheist (beautiful Story). by olabowale(m): 2:18pm On Jan 07, 2010
@Tudor: « #1 on: Yesterday at 06:43:53 PM »  
Abu-whatever  was indeed an iliiterate. . .
yet his argument is still relevant. was he an illiterate in his time? since you are a yoruba man, sorry woman, those who have phd [linguists] in yoruba language must be illiterates, too, beause they are not engineers, medcal doctors, lawyers, etc? what do you say?


well his ignorance is excused, back then science wasn't at its best.
how ignorance is a phd holder of yoruba language? we should not forget that aworerin was simply a yoruba language magazine, almost made compulsory in my time for high school students. i am then sure by tudor's argument that high school students studying materials borne out of illiterate hands or language are illiterates, too.
finally, is scence at its best now? could there be an advancement in science tomorrow, that can render the science of today so "illiterate", definitely the science of say 100 years ago must be so old, now?

you are not being taking seriously by the muslims because your argument is not always sound. is a boat just a boat without a boat maker, even now; did the boat come into an existence without a maker who had the concept and made it happen?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Where Is Mohammed's Tomb . . . by olabowale(m): 12:22am On Jan 06, 2010
Oh, what happened to NO2ATHEISM? Whats happening to him; his body, his heart, his soul? Is there any guidance for him? Is he alive in body and dead in the spirit, a soul lost, devoid of any good? What will happen to him when he is dying? hat will the angel do to him as his soul is being removed? In the day of Judgement, will there be a mercy for those who disobey Allah and his messenger, mocking them?

As a muslim, I now asked Allah to guide his heart aright. Amin. I pity a disbelieving soul.


When I have sometime, I will answer your set of ignorant questions.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Truth Behind Muslims Facing The Kaaba For Prayers Every Day! by olabowale(m): 11:46pm On Jan 05, 2010
the christian video material shot itself in the foot by not paying attention to the fact that synagogues of the jews and churches of the christians, but by name and structural values and functions are innovations. the same manners their religion names and religiosity processes are innovations. the video talks about graven image, and it fails to point out that the cross with or without a hung figure is a graven image, clearly condemning christianity to paganic idol image worshipping.

while it acknowledges that there is no idol in the kaaba, if fails that it is only a structure that carries no star, moon crescent, or anything. this clearly shows that moon, star gods mean nothing to us in Islam, since in many parts of the Quran idolatry is shunned, and moon, star are only signs and means of measurements, and navigations, just like day, and night, or month or year. but what is so amazing is that as the video uses the Quran to proof Jesus, it forgot to realise that jesus was one of the prophets to help or assist by following and carrying out the commands of Muhammad (AS) and that helping is not leading and Quran curses Jews and Christians and others.

in america i have seen many masajid (masjids) which were night clubs prior to purchase ( Masjid al Iman in Corona Queen Ny, and masjid Taqwa in Bedford-Stuyvesant Brooklyn are two examples), others have been Jewish Synagogue in Brooklyn, or apartments house in Manhattan, so the fact that Kaaba was the central structure of Makkans, and the preIslamic people circumbulate it while they housed 360 idols in there means nothing, since when Islam of Muhammad took it over, it destroyed all the 360 idols, all the daughters and their parents (lol) as you claimed were all destroyed, and only the name of Allah, not allah is proclaimed in Salah, and full Hajj, and a full month fast in a specific month of Ramadhan, a specific charity (Zakat) are instituted!

The Christians and their cohorts should be ashamed since when they argue against Islam, they often shoot themselves dead as bullseye in the foot! is there a church that carries no cross on it? Hardly. There are masajid that carries no star and crescent! I have prayed in many of them! Is there a Christian sect that does not believe that Jesus is God? if there is, then it does not remain a christian, Is there a muslim sect that believes that God is more than One? If there is, it is not a muslim community! We muslims say that the Bible (Torah, Sabur and Injil combo) is corrupt in many ways; the words of Allah, His creations; prophets and messengers are already tampered with, and of course the books of Acts, epistles and revelations are additional, yet the gullible calls it part of words of God! Could this book, the Bible qualify as word of God, alone without considering these obvious erroneous means?

The other side is the Quran, exclusively WORDS of Allah. If you say by the video that Allah tells Muhammad that the Prophets before him will help him, did you forget that they were told that if only they were alive preaching when he Muhammad is messengering, and their support of him, does not in any inkling saying that they will lead him. Can the interpretations of the christians and or that of the jews be accepted, when either or both are obviously wrong, or even disagreeing with each other? ITISTRUE, tell me what is the need for an interpretation about such verses like Mark 12 verse 29, Matthew 4 verse1 to 11? Should there be a need for something that simple, unambiguous, direct like Jesus whom you sent, and other verses?
Religion / Re: Between Jesus And Mohammed! by olabowale(m): 1:29pm On Jan 05, 2010
@Nizoral: Arent you the one wallowing in ignorance, calling human son God, when there is no clear reason there is a need for God to have a son? A mere common man who said he could do nothing of his own power, God? A soul who ate Immortal? Finally, is it not the greatest of ignorance to say God is multi personalities, unable to know that one plus one plus one is never going to be One, but three, unless each is an incomplete entity? Continue to deny this reality, woman.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Do Muslim Men Wear Short Trousers by olabowale(m): 5:30am On Jan 05, 2010
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