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@Besteric: You alone. At the same time, living in Germany and Italy? Thats a miracle.

All of a sudden, I felt a draft. Oh, its the wind blowing from Upstate New York. Lake Erie or something.
I will shut the window. Some funk may be coming behind it.

Adam was a Muslim. And he died as a Muslim. He was the first of mankind to sin and he was the
first to ask for forgiveness. All Muslims follow the tradition of seeking forgiveness, with hope that
God is Merciful and will accept repentance and therefore forgives His Slave Servants who is not
too proud to seek His Mercy. And not too timid that he sets up intercessor between himself and
the Creator. That quality in Adam, is a quality of a prophet, a Muslim.

Only, a one who is not part of the creation of God, will say that the 'Hatman decree,' of the passing over
Hell, does not apply to him/her! It applies to Muhammad, Jesus son of Mary, Moses, Ibrahim, Noah, Adam.
Name it, it applies to him, amongst mankind. Crossing it is the real test: You have been tested before, but
never like this!

No Christian and no Jew, since the beginning of the Prophethood of Muhammad until the end of Mankind will
succeed in this test! It is the hatman, an inevitable decree, a forgone conclusion, except the one who
became Muslim, in the tradition of Muhammad. God declares Muhammad (as), as His Messenger! End of
story.

Let the preacher gets on his/her pulpit and yell. It will not affect anything about the decision of the Most
Powerful, Supreme, The Irresistible God Allah the Almighty.

Those who call Jesus son of Mary Lord, will not have any helper against Jesus Creator. Jesus will never be
able to help. He will be concern about his own conditions, based on the lies they have said against him: calling
him, Son of God, God!

@Cgift: Aburo, I love you as best as one man can love another. But I dislike your
immaturity. You have no finesse. One can imagine your behaviour around your peers.
Am actually advicing you to grow up. The question is very direct. If you have a good
sense, choose a prophet and argue for him or not being a prophet, based on his
attitude on the commandments of God. Can you do that?

To say, Olorun, Olodumare, Oluwa, Eleda are different is simply disingenuous and will
not deserve my attention. Se bi gende. Oya di de.

@Skyone: Oro Orun wo lo njade lati enu ani ranu e yi?

If only the Nigerians will be truthful in their belief system. The Overnight explosion
of Money making Churches. The unfortunate lack of understanding of the religion of
Islam by the Muslims! What they professed to , both Muslims and Christians, are not necessarily
what they practice.

My statement stands.

Is it not exactly what it is, Cgift?

@Switpeas: I pity the Nigerian men who have only the selection of your type
to choose a wife from. Its better not to be married that to have a gutter girl
like you for a bride. How I lament for my beloved country!

At 24, you have decayed to the core. there is nothing ladylike about you. Shameful
I can excuse the full Greyhound Fox, maybe he lacks a fatherly influence and now that
he thinks he has made a pretty penny/tidy sum, he can even realise that there are still
people out there who can turn his money into just pennies and still would not have felt
the impact. Chiken feeds.

@Greyfox: Great achievement. That you employ 52 people. That has no discounted
your foolishness about you statement. I guess in your own mind, your achievement
is unparalleled.

Whereever you are look around you, there is somebody better. Some people will
do better than you. HIV/AIDS is more amongst the Christians than the Muslims, even
in African. And it almost non existing in the US within the Muslim community. I wonder
which group should be careful; the 1 wife man with 1000 girlfriends, or the 4 wives
man with Zero girlfriends.

Why am I even responding to a Thug of a little minded fellow?

I feel for u!

Only a person who is Muslim by name and not in his heart, can join any secret
society. On the other hand, the Christian hierarchy are the founders of masonic
societies. Study your History, Mr. Focused. No not focus us away from the topic.

Yeah. I thought so. The disappearing Fox. Can you read, Mr. Fox? Go get yourself
the Biography of This Noble Muhammad. Educate yourself before you make a BIG
fool of yourself, like the rest of your STRAW BRAINED allies! People who thinking
is a very strange phenomenon to.

See how weak you sound to yourself? Is as if you said, Ikorodu is not a
proper Ijebu. Show by demonstrating the quality of the Prophet, that they are
not Muslims, duh!

Even the Christian Arabs, call your Jehovah, Allah in their Bible. You are not
sounding reasonable enough. I may just let you continue in your game of
languages.

As stated, your prayer is deiff: Weak and unaccepted. Laa ilaha illallah,
Muhammadanr Rasulullah, wa Isa bin Mariam rasulullah. (Aleyhi Salaam)

@Focused: Let m e guess, post Nigerian Civil birth, right? That figures.
If you want to talk about Nigerian Muslims, then you are right. But
before you talk about Islam, read its Books, with clear mind,
devoid of hangovers and prejudices.

I can appreciate how you lament about the Country that you live in.
I lament about it, too. Thats where I come from. I smell it and taste it.
However, there are some things you always leave alone. there are
sometimes I have written much, but I simply erased it before I have
the temptation to click the submit botton.

Will I say there are Muslims in the Northern Nigeria? You bet. Do I  say
they are excellent in their practices? No. No  one in any part of the
world is an excellent Muslim. Do Nigerians too emotional? Is that a
good thing? Not in all cases. If you love One Nigeria, try your darnest
to be a good Nigerian. Your religion can cloud your thinking that you do
not see the good of a person, even if you hate that person. It should
stop you from the evil of your beloved as well.

If you hang around enough, InshaAllah, I will rob off on you. Let the whole of
Christianity pray on me. Let see, go wake Paul/Saul up, the founder of your
religion, and gather yourselves together. All of you, the best of you and the
least of you, your men and women, your old and your young. If you pray from,
now until the day that I die, your prayer will never rise above your heads!

You know why? The Almighty have declared you as His enemies! You associate
partnership with Him. You lie against his prophets; one which you exaggerate
his status even so that you rival him with his Creator. The other, you deny him.

You see why you will never succeed with me? Never. You will continue to struggle
but the biggest failure is yet to come. God reserves Hell for the doers of Evil.

Confederate is the title. Did you get it. Read and learn. Afterall, I did not tell you
its in the Book of Mormon or your Bible. lol!

Bravo Black man, from Corona Queens. The last time I checked, your
bloodline and that of the Sudanese Babooons is exactly the same thing!
Same tube, same thing. You must just be as Babooned as the Sudanese.

The source of your blackness is whacked.

@Cgift: You never even attempted to do a tight rope walk, even on the
edge of the topic!! Proof to me that there is a prophet who was not a
Muslim, because he did not Submit his Will/obedience to God Almighty?

This is simple enough. I see many tap dancing around the topic. But you
came out of the gate break dancing! Thats not good. First, there is no
doubt that Muhammad (as), was a Muslim.
Even as bad as Muslims are, today, each claims that they follow him, as
the last link in the chain of prophethood.

Aburo. Listen very carefully. Proof to me that there is a prophet before
Muhammad who did not have to obey God/ and did not obey God, hence
he was out of what Muslim in Islam is supposed to be.

I read your mind, by Allah, before you began. Remember when I told you that
you addressed me, while you inured your leaders in deceitfulness? You type I
deal with daily. First, just because you say something from your mouth does
not mean it is true. It is almost always going to be a lie, based on the way you
addressed your first response to me.

Muhammad (as), refuted the lies that your leadership from the time of his
prophethood, onward to this time and will continue till end of time, you got crazy
without any provocation. You are too emotional. Please calm down, because
your future husband may not be as understanding of human emotion as a
follower of Muhammad. At least they let you know where they stand. Unlike you
who clandestinely present fallacies and want us to accept it as truth.

@Cgift: Whatever. Have you read the tafsir of the confederates, in the Qur'an?

The idea of the topic is that an individual should pick a prophet of his chosen
and give us, in clear picture, how this prophet did not Submit totally and alone
to Almighty God. It is the descriptions of the non submissiveness that is needed
here. From my statement of the topic heading, it can be seen that I Olabowale
has declared that all prophets of God, starting from Adam and ending up with
Muhammad are all Muslims. Jesus is one of these illustrious people, creations.

@Cgift: Muhammad's position is different. Read Chapter 33, I believe. It is titled
'The Confederates.' in the Qur'an. Read Tafsir ibn Kathir. You are in Ikorodu. You
should not have any problem finding a learned Muslim, in your area.

Among the Prophets, some married close to a thousand wives, eg, Solomon the wise.
With so many women, he was still dubbed 'the wise,' Some married a lot less, eg, David.
Some married just a few, Ibrahim, the friend of Allah, Isiaq, Yakuub, and many others.
Some married only one, eg Zachariah. Some did not marry at all, eg, John and his cousin
Jesus. What is your point? You can not see wisdom in the marriages of Muhammad?

He married widowed women, he married young virgin, he married divorced women. All of
these types of women are permissable to Muslim men. Yet most Muslim men marry just
one wife.

You are right. But when people lie about your conviction, you should ask them to
proof their bonafides. Conveniently, when you spoke about insecurity, you directed
particularly to me. Then, I have the humanly right to ask you for your reasoning.

Look, i am not here to armstrung anyone to accept Islam or reject their own religion.
God is not doing it, for sure I do not have the power to change anyone. But I can not
sit idly and let them, your Church people on NL have a free ride in their lies about my
Allah, my Islam, my Qur'an, my Muhammad (as).

They could say anything they want about the bad behaviours of Muslims. But that does
mean it is Islam that caused them to behave badly. On the contrary. If these bad
Muslims do not have Islam in their lives, imagine how terrible they will be!

@Kokojunkie: Since you do not speak Yoruba, the proverb is beyond your scope.
It was directed to Cgift, before your put your two bits into it.

Now, remind of what you said, again that is germane to the thread?

@Kokojunkie: Whatever.
Tie gbo no. How do you think I will ever play Victim with you?
You are in Ohio. Am in NY. Igi imu jino so ju! Bon't you know that?

How so? Please explain how you come to your conclusion above?
Enquiring mind wanna know.

I went to school here. I grew up in USA. My thinking is more akin to it than
Pakistan's and those other countries you mentioned. Finally, I am a full
blooded Yoruba man. The last I check, that tribe is a Nigerian tribe. Okay,
my next place of residence, as a country will be Nigeria.

Okay Christian, why don't you pack up and live in Vatican or Jerusalem. Oh,
I should not mention Jerusalem. Its been occupied by force, by the Zionists.
You are arguing without proper thinking. America and the rest of the world,
altogether belong to the Creator. Definitely, the Creator is not Jesus (as).

Please if you have nothing to say, that should be considered to merit some
wisdom, don't say anything. You can not resort to personal attack on my
person. Is that the attitude of Jesus who you claim to be your God? No.

If you are 10% pretty as you had shamelessly suggest to a man in
another thread yesterday, which I am sure the jury is still out
upon, common sense will tell you that mixing of sexes distract from
the concentration that is needed to dialogue with God. Of course,
Christians claim that they are not slaves, but they can not dialogue
directly with God, because they are not clean enough. So the erected for
themselves a middle man/a broker/an intercessor. This shows that you
people are deluded and do not even know your own status as humans.

But wait a minute. The slaves who you poke fun at, are the ones who
are bold enough, in confidence talk directly to the God, who you are
scared to have direct dealing with. I will take my place with the slaves.

Some Nigerian Christians, do not know jack. Okay, thats why they are Christians.
Go figure.

If honesty is ever a free gift, most were fast asleep or in hiding,
when it was being distributed. If the Christians of today, indeed from
the time of Prophet Muhammad, think that God takes them as part
of the community which follow Prophet Jesus son of Mary, then they
need to wake up because they have been sleep walking through
life.

If they have been awake, the verse of the Qur'an, quoted above, should have
first told them that God and Jesus are two distinct and separate beings; One
is the Master and the other the servant/slave, regardless of his status.
Secondly, in all of Qur'an, there is no single verse where Allah through
Muhammad, another important slave, states that Jesus died on the cross
or crucified. Further, the speaker, which is Allah had allowed Muhammad
the Comforter, to speak in glorious way about Jesus.

So if you continue in your delusional state that Christianity is accepted by
Allah, just because you claim that you follow Jesus, it is in illusion, that you
that you will walk into Hellfire. It is a 'hatman decree,' you must pass over
the wariduha aleyha of Jahannam. But lo, you will not succeed.