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Christian God, according to the Christianity, has three godheads.
Where as Muslim God is One Supreme God, having sway over all His CREATIONs.

There is GOD the Creator and then there is His CREATIONS. Major difference.

Cna you proof with proper argument, for or against? back to the topic.

@dot2002: Right on, sister. The age of Bohemian is dead. They are now
given Bowery and Soho a facelift. You are many decades late.

Back to the topic, babe. Let me restrict myself. Good night, Alice.

After your dishonesty have been exposed, all of a sudden, your foolish mind
remembered the tripe. Dishonesty perishes. Very easily. Back to the topic.

Never will I play victim with you, or you or you. The Yorubas say;
Yiyo ekun, ki nse to jo ko. The topic is speaking in Tongues. You as
a Christian, have you posted anything remotely resembling anything
tangible to the topic?

My saying that I hardly speak Yoruba is simply to say that I am
not a master of the language. But it is my mother tongue. I speak it
fluently and most of my dreams are in that language. But lets leave
my poor English alone. I am only interested in thorough debate of
religion. As long as you are honest and do not hide the truth, I will
entertain your conversation. Otherwise, I have no patience for deceitful
tactics.

Again, have you ever spoken in tongue? Did the holy ghost left after
the episode or ir stays with you, even up till now?

@Kokojunkie: Fortunately, i am not in classroom setting. I know most of you will
have problems dealing with the asiatic business people, because of the way they
write. Mr., it is the idea that counts. Unless you think you can intimidate me, so that
i disappear and the Christians can have free range. It will not happen.

It seems to me that it is safe to say that all Prophets are Muslims, submitting their wills
to God Almighty Creator. That includes Jesus son of Mary. No one has argued against
this statement that I made here.

@Cgift:Owe ni mo pa, lede Geesi. See o ye e?

lol see a blind man arguing that the tail of an elephant is indeed a rope. (There is no minimum length to what can be defined as a rope.)

Sir and you assume that your write-up has anything to do with "matured argument"? We've seen it all before, its simply the tired old piffle that deluded muslims throw all the time. Besides your argument about 1 or 20 "gods" what else do muslims have to say? (Those who steal the properties of others, the instrument of implemetation, should be cleaved off from the whole body. It will be a sign for others to resist from stealing.)


For someone accusing others, your religion is built on the foundations of prejudice. . . . if in doubt check the amount of time allah spends busy cursing christians and jews for frivolous reasons like poverty and missing the sabath! (If the God Creator curses the doers of a deed, pure sense and wisdom and the fear of God should tell me not to do it. The Jews and Christians must have done terrible deeds. No wonder that I prayed and my prayer was accepted on my mother. God also cursed disbelieving arabs.)

But make no sense anyhow, so my rebuttal will fall on barren land which is your mind.

@Lakpene: Please leave people like that one alone. The hatred has made such a one as
blind as a Cobra, shedding its skin. A honest human being will read the whole story before
posting any part of it. But you know when Shaitan controls an individual, such an
individual even becomes worse than the already acursed Devil.

The same wet nurse was blessed by the Presence of Muhammad (as). The madness of
Nigerians mad people!

Only a full rejoices, too quickly, at the slightest hope of victory. Until a decisive victory
is achieved, the hope may just be a MIRAGE. Glory belongs to Allah, alone.

So when the fickle minds limited their sources to Goggle, a very young and yet immature
sources of Knowledge, God Almighty Allah defends His Religion. He excites the would be
inmate of doom to false victory until they are shamed.

Intelligence will prompt mindful people to further their research, even to dictionary sources.
That was what I did. I will only provide the definition of one, just to tease you of your
limited smart:

JACOBITE: (Origin of the Word), Jacobita, after Jacobus Baradaeus, bishop of Edessa (d. 578)

Definition of Jacobite: A member of the Syrian Monophysitic Church, which was founded in
the 6th century a. d. and was governed by the Patriarch of Antioch.

What about the Lord's prayer which Jesus himself taught his apostles and he himself
said as a prayer to his Lord? Any warped response to that? We now see that truth is
too expenses for many to say.

Your foolishness is showing through. You have not supported your statement with matured argument.
Just yapping like a Chihuahuas shows how really smart you are. There is something called education
beyond the classroom. No matter how you try to divert the attention of others from this topic, you will
be reminded in every which way. Your prejudice is already laid bare for others to see. Lets keep moving.

@Cgift: Thank you Cgift. If the Qur'an says that Jesus using your word, obeyed,' God, and totally
submitted to the Will of God, then he was a Muslim. So if Jesus was a Muslim, how come
you claimed that he is God? There is no Muslim who can claim that he is equal
in authority to God. No one can be a Muslim and be God at the same time.
The mere fact that you could not disagree with me that Jesus
was always in obedient, obey, submission to God's authority on him, simply nullifies
the claim of the Christians to be people who are obedient to God. Therefore, they
have fraudulently used the name of Jesus in vain, without sincerely obedient to God
as Jesus did in the Islamic creed of his days,under the process that God gave him.

If you are intelligent enough to open the Qur'an, you will not just pound blindly on the keyboard
and let garbage be recorded under your name. Even though you have used a fake name, but please
focus and say something tangible. If you have nothing to say, go away or at best watch how
intelligent people dialogue. We do not want to stray away, which is always your usual evil tactics.
In this case your strategy will fail. You wanna argue away that Jesus did not obey God, hence he was
not a Muslim, present your argument.

The 64 Trillion Dollar question that baffles everyone, the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims
and even the others which the three above consider to be disbelievers, as pagans or atheists, is this;
If the Supreme being, Who created and or put into action all creating forces, chose a way to be
harmonious with, as in reverence/worship of Him, what shall we call it? Mankind, in the past, did not, or
in the present have not and future will chose the same way to relate to the this Supreme being. Is there
a correct way, or are we all wrong? But surely all of us can not be correct because we have
so many ways, each almost completely, but in a greater part disagreeing with the others. If we
factor out the Atheists, for their lack of focus on an LIVING Creator, and also factor out the pagans
for their representation of this Creator by idols, which they themselves create with their own
abilities to create or fashion out. What we have remaining are the three which in various ways accept
that there is a Supreme Creator and Sustainer, which they call God. The differences are ways that they
worship and relate to this God in their belief, and in worship. Therefore Starting from Adam, to the
this present time, looking at all the prophets, did any one of them came with the totality in the
definition of Spirituality that complements  any of one these different religions? For example, irrespective
of the ethnicity of Moses and or Jesus, did each came and preached the religion as their separate
followers practice the religion today? Did either of these prophet bring the religion and practice along
side with their followers, exactly, as we see those who claim to be practicing it do today.

Please present your argument to support your claim. Also, when you argue for or against a point of
view, please try not to stray from the topic, because you may necessarily but unintentionally drag others along from
this very important matter, to a less important topic, and all over the place presentation. Please consider using all
the proper resources in your possession, as long as you are honest in your presentation. We want to
start from Adam through all the prophets in history of Mankind, including Noah, Ibrahim, Musa, Isa son
of Mariam and lastly Muhammad son of Abdullah (May God's peace be upon everyone of them. Amin).

@Focused:

Your Statement: Muslims are the greatest critics of christianity. They criticise Jesus openly and they say all sorts of things, but no body have ever charged them, or kill them for what they have said. In UK, which is a christian country, they have an opportunity which they don't even have in their country to practise their religion and say all sorts of things, and even segregate themselves, from other people because they think they are pure and others are infidels. Some of them (mostly of Pakistani extraction) are even advocating that they will turn UK into an Islamic country.

My response: I almost, agreed, reluctantly with you about the Muslims being the greatest critics of Christians, until
I remember the Jews, who just outrightly, without shyness to it label Christianity as paganism. And wait, they even
haul abuses on Jesus (May Allah abuse those who abuse Jesus, son of Mary, a prophet of God). Further, you shock
me by saying that Muslims critise Jesus. It is far from the real truth! Muslim critise the Christians about the exagerations
of the Christians, as concerning what the true nature of Jesus is. He was a Prophet, with great and wonderful Miracles.
He was the Messiah only to the Children of Israel. Though the may not accept him, even as a prophet. It is the same
thing that Muhammad is, and holding currently even to the end of time, to all mankind. Though majority of mankind will
not accept him. Eg all the Christians, the people who practice Jewish religion, the Atheists, Hindu, Buhddiss, etc.

I practiced Islam as a young boy in Nigeria and there was no time I was debarred from going the Mosque. Europe is
not the birth place of Christianity, so your statement may not hold about their tolerance of Muslims. You said it
yourself that most Europeans are Godless, Atheists. Again, I can not speak for the Saudi Kingdom. I even disagree
with the name Saudi. However I am in agreement about not allowing non Muslims to enter Makka and Madina. That is
Command of God and what His Messenger ruled by.

The irrational behaviour of people, whether it is in the noth of Nigeria, or somewhere else, does not necessarily means
that it is the correct ruling under the Islam. Any group of people can behave, irrationational under a given set of
conditions. If I were in the north, in one of those episodes of chaos that you talk about, maybe I would also lose my
life, regardless of my Islam.

Finally, God can never be three entities or subentities as you are trying to pass your 3 in 1 in your last entry above.
No prophet ever preached it before Jesus. Jesus never preached it, even though we do not have his 'Gospel that he
preached while alive,' to reference what he said. Yet, overwhelmingly, we see from what you call the NT that what
came out of his mouth is that God is One. Further that that God is his Lord/God and to all.

Muhammad came as part of the MASTER plan of GOd, regardless of all the deviations of mankind, prior to his arrival
as a prophet, to provide and lead man according to the will of God, using the final revelation, The Qur'an. It is very
clear and you have the right to scrutinise and critically but objectively investigate it. You have free will as a man.

A man who is without adequate knowledge of Spirituality, ask if Jesus was sent for the Muslims.
But because of his deficient knowledge, he forgot that the first thing that makes a person a
Muslim, is to first spiritually in firm declaration degates all form of ideas and association that is
contrary to the holding that God Almighty is One and deserves all worships and obedience.

Below in Suratul Al Imran, we see that the followers of Jesus son of Mary declared themselves,
while they say to Jesus that he was their Witness to that attestation. I ask anyone with any sense,
if the whole followership is Islamic of Jesus, and Jesus never commanded them to renounce this
declaration, is there any doubt, that Jesus himself was the leadership of that Muslim under him?

Has there ever been any Prophet who preached the spirituality that is different from Total Submission
to the Will of God? Did any prophet, including Jesus ever Preached that God is not Singularly One?

Did anyone ever see and read the 'Gospel,' Jesus preached about the places, which is different from
the story/history of Jesus, being passed up as The Gospels according to,' in the Bibles?

Jesus son of Mary was no more than a Messenger of his Lord. He preached only the Oneness and total submission to God.

(52. Then when `Isa came to know of their disbelief, he said: "Who will be my helpers in Allah's cause'' Al-Hawariyyun said: "We are the helpers of Allah; we believe in Allah, and bear witness that we are Muslims.'') (53. "Our Lord! We believe in what You have sent down, and we follow the Messenger [`Isa]; so write us down among those who bear witness.'') (54. And they (disbelievers) plotted and Allah planned too. And Allah is the Best of those who plot)

@Cgift: Karoo, sir! Lets hear words! I dont know what you are trying to
insinuate by your America nonestatement. So I go leave you. lol.

@dot2002: The reward of Muslim Paradise/heaven is not exclusively girls waiting
hands and feet on the Muslim men, alone. The Muslim women who go to Paradise/
heaven will have their own boys waiting hands and feet on them as well. God of
the Muslims is a Just God. He rewards as Only He can.

To all readers: The God that the Muslim worship is not the same as the God of the
others, Christian God, who is 3 godheads in 1 God!

The Disbelief of the Christians; `Isa Only called to Tawhid

Allah states that the Christians such sects as Monarchite, Jacobite and Nestorite are disbelievers, those among them who say that `Isa is Allah. Allah is far holier than what they attribute to Him. They made this claim in spite of the fact that `Isa made it known that he was the servant of Allah and His Messenger. The first words that `Isa uttered when he was still a baby in the cradle were, "I am `Abdullah (the servant of Allah).'' He did not say, "I am Allah,'' or, "I am the son of Allah.'' Rather, he said,

(Verily, I am a servant of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet.) until he said,
("And verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him (Alone). That is the straight path.'') He also proclaimed to them when he was a man, after he was sent as a Prophet, commanding them to worship his Lord and their Lord, alone without partners,

(But the Messiah said, "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.'' Verily, whosoever sets up partners with Allah, ) in worship
(. , then Allah has forbidden Paradise for him, and the Fire will be his abode.) as He will send him to the Fire and forbid Paradise for him. Allah also said
(Verily, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him (in worship), but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He wills.) and,

(And the dwellers of the Fire will call to the dwellers of Paradise; "Pour on us some water or anything that Allah has provide you with.'' They will say: "Allah has forbidden both to the disbelievers.'') It is recorded in the Sahih that the Prophet had someone proclaim to the people,
(Only a Muslim soul shall enter Paradise.) In another narration,

(Only a believing soul, ) This is why Allah said that `Isa said to the Children of Israel,
(Verily, whosoever sets up partners with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise for him, and the Fire will be his abode. And there are no helpers for the wrongdoers.) There is no help from Allah, nor anyone who will support or protect them from the state they will be in. Allah's statement,

(Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allah is the third of three." Mujahid and several others said that this Ayah was revealed about the Christians in particular. As-Suddi and others said that this Ayah was revealed about taking `Isa and his mother as gods besides Allah, thus making Allah the third in a trinity. As-Suddi said, "This is similar to Allah's statement towards the end of the Surah,

(And (remember) when Allah will say: "O `Isa, son of Maryam! Did you say unto men: `Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah' He will say, "Glory be to You!"[5:116]. Allah replied,
(But there is no god but One God.) meaning there are not many worthy of worship but there is only One God without partners, and He is the Lord of all creation and all that exists. Allah said next, while threatening and admonishing them,

(And if they cease not from what they say, ) their lies and false claims,
(verily, a painful torment will befall the disbelievers among them.) in the Hereafter, shackled and tormented. Allah said,
(Will they not repent to Allah and ask His Forgiveness For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.) This demonstrates Allah's generosity, kindness and mercy for His creatures, even though they committed this grave sin and invented such a lie and false allegation. Despite all of this, Allah calls them to repent so that He will forgive them, for Allah forgives those who sincerely repent to Him.

There is no Salvation Except through Faith in the Qur'an

Allah says: O Muhammad, say,

(O People of the Scripture! You have nothing, ) meaning no real religion until you adhere to and implement the Tawrah and the Injil. That is, until you believe in all the Books that you have that Allah revealed to the Prophets. These Books command following Muhammad and believing in his prophecy, all the while adhering to his Law. Before, we explained Allah's statement,

(Verily, the revelation that has come to you from your Lord makes many of them increase in rebellion and disbelief.)
(So do not grieve for the people who disbelieve), Do not be sad or taken aback by their disbelief. Allah said next,
(Surely, those who believe) referring to Muslims,
(those who are the Jews) who were entrusted with the Tawrah

(and the Sabians. , ) a sect from the Christians and Magians who did not follow any particular religion, as Mujahid stated. As for the Christians, they are known and were entrusted with the Injil. The meaning here is that if each of these groups believed in Allah and the Hereafter, which is the Day of Judgement and Reckoning, and performed good actions, which to be so, must conform to Muhammad's Law, after Muhammad was sent to all mankind and the Jinns. If any of these groups held these beliefs, then they shall have no fear of what will come or sadness regarding what they lost, nor will grief ever affect them. We discussed a similar Ayah before in Surat Al-Baqarah [2:62].

(70. Verily, We took the covenant of the Children of Israel and sent Messengers to them. Whenever there came to them a Messenger with what they themselves desired not, a group of them they called liars, and others among them they killed.) (71. They thought there will be no Fitnah (trial or punishment), so they became blind and deaf; after that Allah turned to them (with forgiveness); yet again many of them became blind and deaf. And Allah is the All-Seer of what they do.) Allah reminds that He took the covenant and pledges from the Children of Israel to hear and obey Him and His Messenger. They broke these pledges and covenants and followed their lusts and desires instead of the law, and whichever part of the law they agreed with, they took it. Otherwise, they abandoned it, if it did not conform to their desires. This is why Allah said,

(Whenever there came to them a Messenger with what they themselves desired not - a group of them they called liars, and others among them they killed. They thought there will be no Fitnah (trial or punishment) so they became blind and deaf.) thinking that they would suffer no repercussions for of the evil that they committed. Consequently, they were blinded from the truth and became deaf, incapable of hearing the truth. For these reasons they were unable to be guided by it. Allah forgave that, then,

(yet they became blind and deaf) again,
(many of them, and Allah is the All-Seer of what they do.) He has perfect knowledge of what they do and whomever among them deserves the guidance and whomever deserves misguidance.

(72. Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allah is the Messiah [`Isa], son of Maryam.'' But the Messiah said: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.'' Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise for him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the wrongdoers there are no helpers.) (73. Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allah is the third of three.'' And there is no god but One God (Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them.) (74. Will they not repent to Allah and ask His forgiveness For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.) (75. The Messiah [`Isa], son of Maryam, was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother [Maryam] was a Siddiqah. They both used to eat food. Look how We make the Ayat clear to them; yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth).)

The Anger of Allah on the disbelievers: There is no ambiquity to the chief groups, which
are described below: Allah shows His mercy on the people, as He describes their nature
and the punishment that they will suffer if they die without changing from such evil
nature. Yet only a few will listen and ponder, in reflection of their evil deeds and change
from it. No wonder it will be only fitting that those who deserve to be in Hell fire will be
left there forever. For they have been warned, but refused to heed the warning.

The People of the Scriptures Deserve the Worst Torment on the Day of Resurrection

Allah said next,
(Say: "Shall I inform you of something worse than that, regarding the recompense from Allah" The Ayah commands the Prophet to say: Shall I inform you about a worse people with Allah on the Day of Resurrection than what you think of us They are you, with these characteristics,

(those who incurred the curse of Allah) were expelled from His mercy
(and who incurred His wrath) and anger, after which He will never be pleased with them,
(those of whom He transformed into monkeys and swine,) as we mentioned in Surat Al-Baqarah (2) and as we will mention in Surat Al-A`raf (7). Sufyan Ath-Thawri narrated that Ibn Mas`ud said, "Allah's Messenger was asked if the current monkeys and swine were those whom Allah transformed. He said
(Allah never destroyed a people by transforming them and making offspring or descendants for them. The monkeys and swine existed before that.)'' This was also recorded by Muslim. Allah said,

(Those who worshipped Taghut, ) and served them, becoming their servants. The meaning of this Ayah is: you, O People of the Scriptures, who mock our religion, which consists of Allah's Tawhid, and singling Him out in worship without others, how can you mock us while these are your characteristics This is why Allah said,

(such are worse in rank, ) than what you -- People of the Scriptures -- think of us Muslims,
(and far more astray from the straight path.) `More' in the Ayah does not mean that the other party is `less' astray, but it means that the People of the Scriptures are far astray. In another Ayah, Allah said,
(The dwellers of Paradise will, on that Day, have the best abode, and have the fairest of places for repose.)

How can anyone, in complete honest discuss the Word of God, by just writing a
few lines? Except a one who is lacking in the light of guidance. So the arrogant
people are excited by Allah to wallow in their arrogance, being covered by layers
of darkness. Their hearts, eyes and ears are all laid wasted, dead and having no
spiritual essence!

Praising the Qur'an; the Command to Refer to the Qur'an for Judgment

Allah mentioned the Tawrah that He sent down to His Prophet Musa, the one whom He spoke directly to, praising it, commanding that it should be implemented, before it was abrogated. Allah then mentioned the Injil, praised it and commanded its people to adhere to it and follow it, as we stated. He next mentioned the Glorious Qur'an that He sent down to His honorable servant and Messenger. Allah said,


(And We have sent down to you the Book in truth, ) meaning, with the truth that, no doubt, is coming from Allah
(confirming the Scripture that came before it) meaning, the Divinely Revealed Books that praised the Qur'an and mentioned that it would be sent down from Allah to His servant and Messenger Muhammad . The Qur'an was revealed as was foretold in the previous Scriptures. This fact increased faith in the previous Scriptures for the sincere who have knowledge of these Scriptures, those who adhered to Allah's commands and Laws and believed in His Messengers. Allah said,


(Say: "Believe in it or do not believe (in it). Verily, those who were given knowledge before it, when it is recited to them, fall down on their faces in humble prostration.'' And they say: "Glory be to our Lord! Truly, the promise of our Lord must be fulfilled.'') meaning that they say, the promise of our Lord, concerning the coming of Muhammad by the words of His previous Messengers, will certainly be fulfilled. Allah's statement,

(and Muhayminan over it) means entrusted over it, according to Sufyan Ath-Thawri who narrated it from Abu Ishaq from At-Tamimi from Ibn `Abbas. `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas said, "Muhaymin is, `the Trustworthy'. Allah says that the Qur'an is trustworthy over every Divine Book that preceded it.'' This was reported from `Ikrimah, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Mujahid, Muhammad bin Ka`b, `Atiyyah, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, `Ata' Al-Khurasani, As-Suddi and Ibn Zayd. Ibn Jarir said, "The Qur'an is trustworthy over the Books that preceded it. Therefore, whatever in these previous Books conforms to the Qur'an is true, and whatever disagrees with the Qur'an is false.'' Al-Walibi said that Ibn `Abbas said that Muhayminan means, `Witness'. Mujahid, Qatadah and As-Suddi said the same. Al-`Awfi said that Ibn `Abbas said that Muhayminan means, `dominant over the previous Scriptures'. These meanings are similar, as the word Muhaymin includes them all. Consequently, the Qur'an is trustworthy, a witness, and dominant over every Scripture that preceded it. This Glorious Book, which Allah revealed as the Last and Final Book, is the most encompassing, glorious and perfect Book of all times. The Qur'an includes all the good aspects of previous Scriptures and even more, which no previous Scripture ever contained. This is why Allah made it trustworthy, a witness and dominant over all Scriptures. Allah promised that He will protect the Qur'an and swore by His Most Honorable Self,


(Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr and surely, We will guard it (from corruption).) Allah said,
(So judge between them by what Allah has revealed.) The Ayah commands: O Muhammad! Rule between the people, Arabs and non-Arabs, lettered and unlettered, by what Allah has revealed to you in this Glorious Book and what it approves of for you from the Law of the previous Prophets, as Ibn Jarir said. Ibn Abi Hatim reported that Ibn `Abbas said, "The Prophet had the choice to judge between them or to turn away from them and refer them to their own Law. Then this Ayah was revealed,


(So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires. , ) and he was commanded to judge between them by our Book.''. Allah's statement
(and follow not their vain desires, ) This means the ideas they promote, because of which they turned away from what Allah revealed to His Messengers. This is why Allah said,
(And follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you.) The Ayah commands: Do not diverge from the truth that Allah has ordained for you, to the vain desires of these miserable, ignorant people. Allah's statement,


(To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way.)
(To each among you, We have prescribed a law) Shir`at meaning, a clear path, as Ibn Abi Hatim recorded from Ibn `Abbas.
(If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation.) This is a general proclamation to all nations informing them of Allah's mighty ability. If Allah wills, He would make all mankind follow one religion and one Law, that would never be abrogated. Allah decided that every Prophet would have his own distinct law that is later abrogated partially or totally with the law of a latter Prophet. Later on, all previous laws were abrogated by the Law that Allah sent with Muhammad , His servant and Messenger, whom Allah sent to the people of earth as the Final Prophet. Allah said,


(If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you.) This Ayah means, Allah has instituted different laws to test His servants' obedience to what He legislates for them, thus, He rewards or punishes them according to their actions and what they intend. `Abdullah bin Kathir said that the Ayah,
(In what He has given you.) means, of the Book. Next, Allah encouraged rushing to perform good deeds,
(so strive as in a race in good deeds.) which are obedience to Allah, following His Law that abrogated the laws that came before it, and believing in His Book, the Qur'an, which is the Final Book that He revealed. Allah said next,


(The return of you (all) is to Allah Therefore, O people, your return and final destination is to Allah on the Day of Resurrection,
(then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ.) Allah will inform you about the truth in which you used to differ and will reward the sincere, as compensation for their sincerity, and will punish the disbelieving, rebellious people who rejected the truth and deviated from it to other paths, without proof or evidence to justify their actions. Rather, they have rejected the clear evidences, unequivocal proofs and established signs. Ad-Dahhak said that,
(So strive as in a race in good deeds.)is directed at the Ummah of Muhammad , but the first view is more apparent. Allah's statement,
(And so judge between them by what Allah has revealed and follow not their vain desires,) emphasizes this command and forbids ignoring it. Allah said next,

(but beware of them lest they turn you far away from some of that which Allah has sent down to you. ) meaning; beware of the Jews, your enemies, lest they distort the truth for you in what they convey to you. Therefore, do not be deceived by them, for they are liars, treacherous and disbelievers.
(And if they turn away,) from the judgement that you pass in their disputes, and they defy Allah's Law,
(then know that Allah's will is to punish them for some sins of theirs.) meaning, know that this will occur according to the decree of Allah, and because out of His wisdom they have deviated from the truth, and because of their previous sins.
(And truly, most men are rebellious.) Therefore, the majority of humans are disobedient to their Lord, defiant of the truth and deviate away from it. Allah said in other Ayat,


(And most people will not believe even if you desire it eagerly,) and,
(And if you obey most of those on the earth they will mislead you far away from Allah's path.) Muhammad bin Ishaq reported that Ibn `Abbas said, "Ka`b bin Asad, Ibn Saluba, `Abdullah bin Surya and Shas bin Qays said to each other, `Let us go to Muhammad to try and misguide him from his religion.' So they went to the Prophet and said, `O Muhammad! You know that we are the scholars, noblemen and chiefs of the Jews. If we follow you, the Jews will follow suit and will not contradict us. But, there is enmity between us and some of our people, so we will refer to you for judgement in this matter, and you should rule in our favor against them and we will believe in you.' The Messenger of Allah refused the offer and Allah sent down these Ayat about them,


(And so judge between them by what Allah has revealed and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they turn you far away from some of that which Allah has sent down to you.) until,
(for a people who have firm faith.)'' Ibn Jarir and Ibn Abi Hatim recorded this Hadith. Allah continues,
(Do they then seek the judgement of (the days of) ignorance And who is better in judgement than Allah for a people who have firm faith) Allah criticizes those who ignore Allah's commandments, which include every type of righteous good thing and prohibit every type of evil, but they refer instead to opinions, desires and customs that people themselves invented, all of which have no basis in Allah's religion. During the time of Jahiliyyah, the people used to abide by the misguidance and ignorance that they invented by sheer opinion and lusts. The Tatar (Mongols) abided by the law that they inherited from their king Genghis Khan who wrote Al-Yasiq, for them. This book contains some rulings that were derived from various religions, such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Many of these rulings were derived from his own opinion and desires. Later on, these rulings became the followed law among his children, preferring them to the Law of the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger . Therefore, whoever does this, he is a disbeliever who deserves to be fought against, until he reverts to Allah's and His Messenger's decisions, so that no law, minor or major, is referred to except by His Law. Allah said,


(Do they then seek the judgement of (the days of) ignorance) meaning, they desire and want this and ignore Allah's judgement

(And who is better in judgement than Allah for a people who have firm faith) Who is more just in decision than Allah for those who comprehend Allah's Law, believe in Him, who are certain that Allah is the best among those who give decisions and that He is more merciful with His creation than the mother with her own child Allah has perfect knowledge of everything, is able to do all things, and He is just in all matters. Al-Hafiz Abu Al-Qasim At-Tabarani recorded that Ibn `Abbas said that the Messenger of Allah said,

(The most hated person to Allah is the Muslim who seeks the ways of the days of ignorance and he who seeks to shed the blood of a person without justification.) Al-Bukhari recorded Abu Al-Yaman narrating a similar Hadith, with some addition.
(51. O you who believe! Do not take friends from the Jews and the Christians, as they are but friends of each other. And if any among you befriends them, then surely, he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the wrongdoers.) (52. And you see those in whose hearts there is a disease, they hurry to their friendship, saying: "We fear lest some misfortune of a disaster may befall us. '' Perhaps Allah may bring a victory or a decision according to His will. Then they will become regretful for what they have been keeping as a secret in themselves.) (53. And those who believe will say: "Are these the men who swore their strongest oaths by Allah that they were with you'' All that they did has been in vain, and they have become the loser

It is no surprise that the Christians will follow conjecture in the footstep of their patrons,
the Jews, who had adulterated their book, the Tawrah. In this wise, it is very easy for
the Christians to accept the notion that somebody will assume their burden, before God.
However it is the height of irresponsibility and failure to face reality, because there is no
bearer of burden, that will bear the burden of another. Everyone, without any exception,
will be judges according to the mercy of God, based on the meritious belief and good deeds
done by the individual.

Allah Mentions `Isa and Praises the Injil

Allah said,
(and We sent, ) meaning, We sent
(in their footsteps) meaning the Prophets of the Children of Israel,
(`Isa, son of Maryam, confirming the Tawrah that had come before him,) meaning, he believed in it and ruled by it.
(and We gave him the Injil, in which was guidance and light) a guidance that directs to the truth and a light that removes the doubts and solves dispute
(and confirmation of the Tawrah that had come before it,) meaning, he adhered to the Tawrah, except for the few instances that clarified the truth where the Children of Israel differed. Allah states in another Ayah that `Isa said to the Children of Israel,


(. , and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you.) So the scholars say that the Injil abrogated some of the rulings of the Tawrah. Allah's statement,
(a guidance and an admonition for those who have Taqwa.) means, We made the Injil guidance and an admonition that prohibits committing sins and errors, for those who have Taqwa of Allah and fear His warning and torment. Allah said next,
(Let the people of the Injil judge by what Allah has revealed therein.) meaning, so that He judges the people of the Injil by it in their time. Or, the Ayah means, so that they believe in all that is in it and adhere to all its commands, including the good news about the coming of Muhammad and the command to believe in and follow him when he is sent. Allah said in other Ayat,


(Say "O People of the Scripture! You have nothing (guidance) until you act according to the Tawrah, the Injil, and what has been sent down to you from your Lord.'') and,
(Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write whom they find written with them in the Tawrah, ) until,
(, successful.) Here, Allah said,
(And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the rebellious.) meaning, the rebellious and disobedient of Allah who prefer falsehood and abandon truth. We mentioned before that this Ayah was revealed about the Christians, and this is evident from the context of the Ayah.


(48. And We have sent down to you the Book (this Qur'an) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Muhayminan over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so compete in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ.) (49. And so judge between them by what Allah has revealed and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they turn you far away from some of that which Allah has sent down to you. And if they turn away, then know that Allah's will is to punish them for some sins of theirs. And truly, most men are rebellious. (50. Do they then seek the judgement of (the days of) ignorance And who is better in judgement than Allah for a people who have firm faith.)

@Pilgrim.1: Isn't it dishonesty that you are eager to bambooze me, to believing that
the protestant, division and its resulting many subsets, did not have their roots/foundations
from the Catholic division, a form of arthodoxy of the christian religion.

Which came first, the Catholic or protestant? Which group copy its own Bible from the other,
the catholic or the protestant? This is not a Rocket Science material. It is very clear that in
both cases, Catholic is first and it is its Bible, less 6 or 7 Books that the Protestant copy its
own Bible from. It is also very interesting to read from the Qur'an, the statement of Allah,
about Christianity as a whole, concerning their hatred between themselves, by sect divisions:

The Christians Also Broke their Covenant with Allah and the Repercussion of this Behavior

Allah said,
(And from those who call themselves Christians, We took their covenant,) Meaning: `From those who call themselves Christians and followers of `Isa, son of Maryam, while in fact they are not as they claim. We took from them the covenant and pledges that they would follow the Prophet , aid him, honor him and follow his footsteps.' And that they would believe in every Prophet whom Allah sends to the people of the earth. They imitated the Jews and broke the promises and the pledges. This is why Allah said,

(but they have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them. So We planted amongst them enmity and hatred till the Day of Resurrection Meaning: `We planted enmity and hatred between them, and they will remain like this until the Day of Resurrection.' Indeed, the numerous Christian sects have always been enemies and adversaries of each other, accusing each other of heresy and cursing each other. Each sect among them excommunicates the other sects and does not allow them entrance to their places of worship. The Monarchist sect accuses the Jacobite sect of heresy, and such is the case with the Nestorians and the Arians. Each sect among them will continue to accuse the other of disbelief and heresy in this life and on the Day when the Witnesses will come forth. Allah then said,

(and Allah will inform them of what they used to do.) warning and threatening the Christians because of their lies against Allah and His Messenger and their false claims about Allah, hallowed be He above what they say about Him. The Christians attribute a companion and a son to Allah, while He is the One and Only, the All-Sufficient, Who neither begets nor was He begotten, and there is none like unto Him.

(15. O People of the Scripture! Now has come to you Our Messenger explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light and a plain Book.) (16. Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His permission unto light and guides them to a straight path.)

This great divide in the Christian religion, itself and their ability to reconcile their differences,
lacking unity, is another surtle miracle from the Qur'an, which bolding declares that the
Christians will never be united in the matters of faith. Some worship, mother and son and God,
Others does not believe that son is important, like the Unitarians. Yet others believe that there
is no son, but then you wonder why they are in the same religion as those who have opposite
opinion. Others have ever more weird position.

@Pilgrim.1: When has the holy spirit guided and comforted people? In the past or still
available today? When you get the holy spirit, does it ever leave you, even for a moment
until you die off? Have you experienced it personally? If that is so, you must be devoid of
it sometimes when you get roused up which many of your entries have demonstrated.

Does it go away and then come back as you calm down? What has the holy spirit taught
you about human interactions, how much you should sleep and how to lay down for
maximum comfort? Share your experience with us please.

Then i want you to ask me what the COMFORTER, Muhammad (as), have taught me, which
Jesus never taught you and then what Muhammad reminded me of what Jesus did and Paul
and your so called unseen holy spirit that is always escaping your hearts, the Christians
of NL, never told any of you.

You finish your semester now, or whenever, so you have no excuse.

Aburo, I am worth more than whatever is stored up in this whole world. My God
gave a believing soul and mind and body to go along. You may be cheap, by me,
a slave of the Irresistable, am very expensive, priceless.

@Pilgrim.1: I responded to your fear of the Hatman decree, of the Wariduha aleyha
over Jahannam, your trying to pass up 3 gods as 1 God. This is enough for you, as
worthwhile responses. I meet you foot to foot, arm lenght by arm lenght. We will
lock in steps in dialogue. Except that you cheat by not being straight forward. Dubious
in religious matters.

Those who are guided aright and attend to their own affairs with wisdom and intelligence
will clearly know God is different from His slave Messenger Prophets. Be it Moses, who was
the Instrument of God, that God spoke with, one on One more than once. Musa turned a stick
which is lifeless to a snake, at three different occasions; first at the burning bush, second at his first
meeting with Pharaoh and third at the competition against the majicians of Egypt. At this third
occasion, the snake gubbled up, in hurried consumptions, the snakes of the magicians.

Yet, his miracle was not finished with the Egyptians, until they drowned in the sea and the Children
of Israel under Musa were saved. He did not use anything but this dead stick in his hand. Finally,
Moses was able just by his instruction, a dead man awoke, when part of a slaughtered cow merely
touched him, to reveal his killer. All of these is in the Chapter 2 of the Qur'an.

Be it Jesus son of Mary, who was born without the aid of a male, even so was Adam and greatter is the
process that brought forth his mate, Hawa, a woman, having diffrerent physiological internal construction.
Jesus shaped a clay and became bird, raised up to life a dead person, and others miracles.

I believe each of these miracles, simply because Qur'an mentions them. But in all of these cases, we can see
that todays technology has allowed cloning, the lamb known as Dolly is a good example. We already had
a test tube baby since the '70s. The scientists are even able to bring about, some identifiable DNA from
the remains of Dinosaur.

Yet, knowledge has not completed. Who know what can happen in the future? What I am saying is this: There
is no amount of miracles that will make any creation equal to the Creator! God says in the Qur'an that He is
your Creator and He is the Creator of all that you creat. You have no power of your own to do anything. If it
was so, when Jesus begged in his prayer at the Garden of Geshemine, he would have just removed the cup
off his own head. If he had power of his own, when the pain became unbearable, he would have just removed
himself, instaed of crying out 'My God, My God, why has thou forsaken me?'

Below. we realise that God the Almighty is very clear and separate from Jesus, yet He continues to use the Majestic plural for Himself, without including anybody, be it His Angels, His noble Prophets, or any from His creation.


(59. He was not more than a servant. We granted Our favor to him, and We made him an example for the Children of Israel.) (60. And if it were Our will, We would have made angels to replace you on the earth.) (61. And he shall be a known sign for (the coming of) the Hour. Therefore have no doubt concerning it. And follow Me! This is the straight path.) (62. And let not Shaytan hinder you. Verily, he (Shaytan) to you is a plain enemy.) (63. And when `Isa came with clear proofs, he said: "I have come to you with Al-Hikmah, and in order to make clear to you some of that in which you differ. Therefore have Taqwa of Allah and obey me.'') (64. "Verily, Allah! He is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him. This is the straight path.'') (65. But the sects from among themselves differed. So woe to those who do wrong from the torment of a painful Day!)