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FXKing2012:
Thank you very much for your input, but allow me to dissect your point of view.

First you talked about acts of terrorism commited in the Bible then u mentioned Samson. Let me ask you, was Samson a Christian? It's so amusing when non-Christians make reference to the Bible as if they understand the contents.
Samson was not a Christian

hmmmmmm, thanks,
NO VULGAR words were used.
and like this, people of different faiths can come to understand themselves.
NOW TO UR POST
ur intepretation of my post was not so very sound, considering ur above comments and ur original post
I ASK.
didnt u understand the first statement of ur original post?

FXKing2012:
Why is is that all suicide bombers are Muslims?

this was ur question
and my responsibility was to prove that not all suicide bombers were muslims
so i cited the example of Samson from the Bible.
as he was not a muslim.
maybe not a xtian,jew,buddhist either.
Samson was not a MUSLIM that was my concern.
where in my post did i ever say he was a xtian?

olasesi:
but not all muslims are suicide bombers,
and it is worth knowing that the first suicide act were not carried out by muslims
read below,


Judges 16: 28

28 Then Samson prayed to the LORD, "O Sovereign LORD, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes."

Judges 16:29-30

29 Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, 30 Samson said, "Let me DIE with the Philistines!" Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he KILLED many more when he died than while he lived.

and dont u dare say that it was taken out of context or that i need the holy spirit to understand this ENGLISH words.

to an open mind,it is evident that i was only trying to prove that Samson was not a muslim,
i didnt care what he was,
"my grandmother was not a muslim b4 she died"
it didnt mean she was a xtian either.

FXKing2012:
Samson was not a Christian, he was not even a man of God in the Bible.

evidently, i was only trying to prove he was not a muslim
Now i really want to know what he was.
First,

15 Then she said to him, “How can you say, ‘I love you,’ when you won’t confide in me? This is the third time you have made a fool of me and haven’t told me the secret of your great strength.” 16 With such nagging she prodded him day after day until he was sick to death of it.

17 So he told her everything. “No razor has ever been used on my head,” he said, “because I have been a Nazirite DEDICATED TO GOD from my mother’s womb. If my head were shaved, my strength would leave me, and I would become as weak as any other man.”
Judges 16 (New International Version)

DEDICATED TO GOD?
maybe he was only lying to her.

Judges 13:5
2 A certain man of Zorah, named Manoah, from the clan of the Danites, had a wife who was childless, unable to give birth. 3 The ANGEL of the LORD appeared to her and said, “You are barren and childless, but you are going to become pregnant and give birth to a son. 4 Now see to it that you drink no wine or other fermented drink and that you do not eat anything unclean
5"You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, DEDICATED TO GOD from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines." (NIV)

never mind,
it was the ANGEL of the LORD of the NAZIRITES
not the ANGEL of the LORD of the CHRISTIANS
Judges 15:14-15
As he approached Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the LORD came powerfully upon him. The ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands. Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men. (NIV)

maybe another LORD.

Judges 16
28 Then Samson prayed to the LORD, “Sovereign LORD, remember me. Please, God, strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes.” 29 Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, 30 Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived.

his prayer was answered by the LORD he prayed to,
and thus the prohesy came to pass "He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines."

did u expect Samson to be to be called a christian?

"Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch" (Acts 11:25-26 KJV)

so he didnt av to be a xtian, infact he could never have been a xtian,
unless he existed after the above disciples,

FXKing2012:
Samson was not a Christian, he was not even a man of God in the Bible.

ur above post sounds like u meant if samson was a (true) christian or a man of God he couldnt av done such things,
and as above,he couldnt av been a xtian at least.
maybe a man of God

it's like saying " if president OBAMA was a nigerian,our country would change"
president obama was not a nigerian,so dont bother about the change,

and as ur post implies"if samson was a (real) christian,he couldnt av done such things"
Samson could never av been a xtian so dont bother about the consequence,
and as to whether he was a man of God
that depends on ur analysis of the above verses, at least it was God's plan
i meant the God of the nazirites,if it is in anyway different from the God of the xtians.
AND IF HE WAS NOT A MAN OF GOD.
then damn Al qeida,taliban and Boko haram
THEY ARE NOT MEN OF GOD.
men of God won't commit suicide to kill people according to the following statements

FXKing2012:
he was not even a man of God in the Bible.

meaning if he was,he would not do such acts.

and for those who may demand that i read the whole passage from the beginning to understand,
i say"i av done that and it made no difference, "
or that perhaps i NEED the holyspirit to understand those verses.
i say "no i dont,these are just English words",

waiting for my points to be debunked
, and now to ur next statement

why are they converting?
are the verses of the talking bible not the usual ones they hear?


that God RESTED after 6 days of work
that he REGRETTED creating humans
that he had a SON
that he is just one of the THREE gods controlling the universe
that he was FOUGHTt with and WON OVER

or what made the talking bible any different?

the cloud ca n form shape of any object regular or irregular randomly
if u agree with me
would it then be impossible that coincidentally it forms the shape of a unicorn someday.

FXKing2012:
Why is is that all suicide bombers are Muslims?

but not all muslims are suicide bombers,
and it is worth knowing that the first suicide act were not carried out by muslims
read below,


Judges 16: 28

28 Then Samson prayed to the LORD, "O Sovereign LORD, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes."

Judges 16:29-30

29 Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, 30 Samson said, "Let me DIE with the Philistines!" Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he KILLED many more when he died than while he lived.

and dont u dare say that it was taken out of context or that i need the holy spirit to understand this ENGLISH words.


The first recorded suicide bombing came from Christian soldiers during the Crusades to free The Holy City of Jerusalem from the control of Muslim armies.During the Crusades, the Knights Templar destroyed one of their own ships with 140 Christians on board in order to kill 10 times as many Muslims in the opposing fleet.

try google to confirm,

so u see, not all suicide bombers are muslims,

FXKing2012:
Why is it that Muslims fight with members of other religions/faiths all over the world? Muslims have been fighting with Christians in Nigeria,

it is worth noting that clashes like these fall into two categories
**Riots,** where casualties are present on both parties, at least that's why it is called RIOT or CLASHES
e.g the jos monthly crisis some of which are even ethnic, and in cases like these, only the very unreasonable will say MUSLIMS always start the riots FIRST
then the second is the
**suicide bombings**
the bombers av been muslims and it only recently started in nigeria.
i know that doesnt prove anything,
but i hate the above statement of the OP that says " Muslims have been fighting with Christians in Nigeria,"
BOKO HARAM has been killing nigerians(muslims and non-muslims) b4 the madalla bombing and they av also continued after it.
so the only onslaught on xtians by muslim xtremists was the xmas day bombing, the rest were riots( I KILL U, U KILL YOUR OWN BACK)

FXKing2012:
, the Philippines, etc;

the cases av majorly been riots and clashes and once again only the shallow minded will say MUSLIMS start it FIRST.
it is also quite surprising to know that more than 90% of the 94 million population are Christians and 5%-10% are muslims
so do the maths and see if it can be said that MUSLIMS are always the OPPRESSORS  or TROUBLEMAKERS in philippines

FXKing2012:
Muslims have been fighting with Hindus in India;

below is an excerpt from wikipedia

Some of the most violent events in recent times took place during the Gujarat riots in 2002, where it is estimated one thousand people were killed, most allegedly Muslim. Some sources claim there were approximately 2,000 Muslim deaths.[94] There were also allegations made of state involvement.[95][96] The riots were in retaliation to the Godhra Train Burning in which 50 Hindus pilgrims returning from the disputed site of the Babri Mosque, were burnt alive in a train fire at the Godhra railway station. Gujarat police claimed that the incident was a planned act carried out by extremist Muslims in the region against the Hindu pilgrims. The Bannerjee commission appointed to investigate this finding declared that the fire was an accident.[97] In 2006 the High Court decided the constitution of such a committee was illegal as another inquiry headed by Justice Nanavati Shah was still investigating the matter.[98]

enter "islam in india" into wikipedia to read more
clashes like these are cant be non-existent in regions where we av considerable number of people with different faiths, so it only shows how most bias the OP was in accusing that non except muslims av always been involved.
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FXKing2012:
Muslims have been fighting with Buddhists in China, etc etc.

the first on that list was a war btw xtians and buddhists,

FXKing2012:
Why is killing one of the tenets of Islam?

it's not one of its tenets.
if it trully is,i bet u
not most of us will be left behind.
all other muslims will join in the fight.

FXKing2012:
Why is is that all suicide bombers are Muslims?

but not all muslims are suicide bombers,
and it is worth knowing that the first suicide act were not carried out by muslims
read below,


Judges 16: 28

28 Then Samson prayed to the LORD, "O Sovereign LORD, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes."

Judges 16:29-30

29 Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, 30 Samson said, "Let me DIE with the Philistines!" Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he KILLED many more when he died than while he lived.

and dont u dare say that it was taken out of context or that i need the holy spirit to understand this ENGLISH words.


The first recorded suicide bombing came from Christian soldiers during the Crusades to free The Holy City of Jerusalem from the control of Muslim armies.During the Crusades, the Knights Templar destroyed one of their own ships with 140 Christians on board in order to kill 10 times as many Muslims in the opposing fleet.

try google to confirm,

so u see, not all suicide bombers are muslims,

FXKing2012:
Why is it that Muslims fight with members of other religions/faiths all over the world? Muslims have been fighting with Christians in Nigeria,

it is worth noting that clashes like these fall into two categories
**Riots,** where casualties are present on both parties, at least that's why it is called RIOT or CLASHES
e.g the jos monthly crisis some of which are even ethnic, and in cases like these, only the very unreasonable will say MUSLIMS always start the riots FIRST
then the second is the
**suicide bombings**
the bombers av been muslims and it only recently started in nigeria.
i know that doesnt prove anything,
but i hate the above statement of the OP that says " Muslims have been fighting with Christians in Nigeria,"
BOKO HARAM has been killing nigerians(muslims and non-muslims) b4 the madalla bombing and they av also continued after it.
so the only onslaught on xtians by muslim xtremists was the xmas day bombing, the rest were riots( I KILL U, U KILL YOUR OWN BACK)

FXKing2012:
, the Philippines, etc;

the cases av majorly been riots and clashes and once again only the shallow minded will say MUSLIMS start it FIRST.
it is also quite surprising to know that more than 90% of the 94 million population are Christians and 5%-10% are muslims
so do the maths and see if it can be said that MUSLIMS are always the OPPRESSORS or TROUBLEMAKERS in philippines

FXKing2012:
Muslims have been fighting with Hindus in India;

below is an excerpt from wikipedia

Some of the most violent events in recent times took place during the Gujarat riots in 2002, where it is estimated one thousand people were killed, most allegedly Muslim. Some sources claim there were approximately 2,000 Muslim deaths.[94] There were also allegations made of state involvement.[95][96] The riots were in retaliation to the Godhra Train Burning in which 50 Hindus pilgrims returning from the disputed site of the Babri Mosque, were burnt alive in a train fire at the Godhra railway station. Gujarat police claimed that the incident was a planned act carried out by extremist Muslims in the region against the Hindu pilgrims. The Bannerjee commission appointed to investigate this finding declared that the fire was an accident.[97] In 2006 the High Court decided the constitution of such a committee was illegal as another inquiry headed by Justice Nanavati Shah was still investigating the matter.[98]

enter "islam in india" into wikipedia to read more
clashes like these are cant be non-existent in regions where we av considerable number of people with different faiths, so it only shows how most bias the OP was in accusing that non except muslims av always been involved.
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FXKing2012:
Muslims have been fighting with Buddhists in China, etc etc.

the first on that list was a war btw xtians and buddhists,

FXKing2012:
Why is killing one of the tenets of Islam?

it's not one of its tenets.
if it trully is,i bet u
not most of us will be left behind.
all other muslims will join in the fight.

Sorry,who was the director of this SEASON FILM,

Softee:
But one thing i just do not get is that if muslims are claiming Jesus prophesied islam, and the islam religion belive Jesus was a prophet, and God detest liars, why would Jesus say he is the son of God, then preach a religion that believe he is a prophet. Somehow this does not make sense to me.

the quran doesnt see jesus as the son of God.
He begets not nor is he beggoten
He is free from such mundane attribute

Softee:
He taught love to EVERYONE of every race, gender, religion but to help them know God in kindness.

why do xtians potray jesus as if he was such a great man of peace?

49 I am come to send fire on Earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. (Luke 12:49-53)


“If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.” (Luke 14:26)


“But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.” (Luke 22:36 NASB)



The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
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In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. “Truly I tell you, if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive them, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.”

Matthew 21:18-22[3]


Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered. When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. “How did the fig tree wither so quickly?” they asked. Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.”


plz explain the above, the context and everything, the most logical explanation
and plz dont try the usual escapist method; "you need the holy spirit to understand THE ENGLISH TRANSLATED BIBLE"

God now predicts football matches,
How bellitling, ?
why doesnt he predict what is going to be of importance to us instead of something this frivolous
E.g
where boko haram is going to stike next, everybody wants to now that.
he was careful not to mention Zambia should the ivorians win.
instead, he said, "this victory is for the country you are not expecting", how intelligent?
not EVERY nigerian was expecting the ivorians to win. Me included,
so if the ivorians won then he would be sure to say that's because u were expecting the zambians to win.
so if u were pastor T B Joshua and u were sure the Zambians were going to win wont u rather directly say "the zambians will be victorious"
so why didnt he directly say this ?
because he wasnt sure,
i heard he also predicted that the 3rd world war is likely to begin between iran and isreal.
by saying the above,, he was only stating the obvious,
only the gullible will easily fall for this,

it's a boko haram bank
it is funded by sanusi
it is intended to split this country
etc.
your opinions matter NOT anymore,
the islamic bank has come to STAY, so maligning will do no good
As it is too late.
why are people so hell bent opposing things that are progressive and pose no apparent threat.
now listen to this.
"The islamic bank should be stopped because i THINK or FEEL it sponsors boko haram/is indirectly funded by the CBN/may split the country."

well,u are not alone
and i hope u do not av very great expectations to get a virgin as a husband.
because u will become heart broken if u find out he is not.
as i was when i found out about a lady i really really love and she was much younger at that age.
all i wanted was the same treat.(i mean virgins for virgins)
but this will really hit u if u so much expect it and u dont get it.
it will make u fill empty and regretful 4 remaining as a virgin till that tyme.
and u will say "what's the big deal about virgins and virginity and all that.it doesnt matter anymore,we are in the 21st century.at least it doesnt mean he/she is promiscuous"
all this will only be said to console urself.
av expectation for it but not to be as great an expectation has mine was,

*keeps mute*

plappville:
he died in a womans lap, (his wife though) he matreated women that was why he was killed by a woman.

One stand to wonder how people think nowadays
HE WAS KILLED MY A WOMAN because HE MALTREATED WOMEN
please be reasonable
It doesn't hurt.

East:
Jesus died on the cross for my sins,

From the teachings of the bible,it is clear that it affirms that no soul shall be put to death for the redemption of another.
Jesus would not ask God to make the cup pass away if he truly knew that he was to die 4 mankind as said in his prayer
And according to the bible his prayers were answered.
“And being in an agony, he prayed more earnestly; and his sweat was, as it were, great drops of blood falling down to the ground” (HOLY BIBLE) Luke 22:44
“The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.”  (HOLY BIBLE) James 5:16
Why then did he shout" my God my God why av thou forsaken me" if he truly was to die for mankind.
Paul confirms that his supplications did not fall on deaf ears:
“Who, in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was HEARD in that he feared.”
There are few inconsistencies in the death of Jesus in the four gospels making it not very reliable.e.g who got to the tomb first.
Between Friday evening and Sunday morning,how is that equal to 3 days.
Science shows that a person who is crucified can last between 3 to 7 days b4 death.how come Jesus only spent few hours.
Pilate marveled that he was already dead
“Pilate marvelled if he were already dead, and to him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead.”  (HOLY BIBLE) Mark 15:44
Even the thieves on his flanks had to av their legs cut off.
“to the slaughter like a lamb, like a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth” – (Isaiah 53:7).
“Isaiah predicts about Jesus Christ:- “
He would not defend himself at his trial (Jesus did not): “He opened not his mouth”
How did the following utterances which are attributed to Jesus, escape his lips without him opening his mouth -
Before the Sanhedrin: “If I have spoken evil, bear witness of the evil, but if well, why smitest thou me?” — (John 18:23)
Before Pontius Pilate: “My kingdom is not of this world” — (John 18:36).
When he was stabbed on his side,blood and water gushed out.this means his heart was still pumping at that time.
“He keepeth all his bones, not one of them is broken.”  (HOLY BIBLE) Psalm 34:20
If the bones of a victim were to be protected from harm, then they could only be of benefit if the person was ALIVE! For a person, already dead, intact bones mean nothing. Whether they are sawed into pieces, or smashed into smithereens, it will not make any difference to the resurrected body, the spirit or the ghost. But for living persons on the cross (like the “crossmates” of Jesus), the breaking of the legs made all the difference between life and death.
The state of his bones should not be of this much paramount if he was to be raised back to life again.
Or can't God raise back to life someone whose bones av been smashed.of course not.since it was not planned that he will be put to death,his bones still av to be intact.
It was Sunday morning, the FIRST day of the week, according to Hebrew calculations, with Saturday the Sabbath as the seventh, when Mary Magdalene alone (Mark 16:9 and John 20:1) visited the tomb of Jesus.
Now the question arises,why did she alone had to go in the morning to anoint him?
“Do Jews massage dead bodies after 3 days?” The answer is “No!” “Do the Christians massage dead bodies after 3 days?” The answer is again, “No!” Do the Muslims (who are the nearest to the Jews in their ceremonial laws) massage dead bodies after 3 days? And the answer is again, “No!” Then why should a Jewess want to massage a dead, decaying body after 3 days? We know that within 3 hours rigor mortis sets in — the stiffening of the body after death. In 3 days time, the body would be fermenting from within — the body cells would be breaking up and decomposing. If anyone rubs such a decaying body, it will fall to pieces. Does the rubbing make sense? No!
It would, however, make sense if she was looking for a LIVE person. You see, she was about, the only person besides Joseph of Arimathe’a and Nicodemus who had given the final rites to the body of Jesus. If she had seen any sign of life in the limp body of Jesus when he was taken down from the cross, she was not going to shout, “HE IS ALIVE!” She returns after 2 nights and a day, when the Jewish Sabbath had passed, to take care of Jesus.
She was sorely amazed to find on arrival, that somebody had already removed the stone and, on peeping into the tomb, she finds that the winding sheets (shroud) were folded up inside. More questions arise? “Why Was the stone removed?” Because for a resurrected body, one which had conquered death, it was not necessary for the stone to be removed for it to get out, nor was it necessary for the winding sheets to- be unwound for it to move.
“She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him”. (Still John 20:15)
Now why should she suppose that he is a gardener? Do resurrected persons look like “gardeners”? Nol! Then why does she suppose him to be a gardener? Because he is disguised as a GARDENER! Why is he disguised as a gardener? Because he is afraid of the Jews! Why is he afraid of the Jews? Because he did not die and did not conquer death! If he had died, and if he had conquered death, then he would not be afraid anymore. Why not? Because a resurrected body cannot die twice! Who says so? The Bible says so. Where? In the Book of Hebrews 9:27. It says:
“. . . It is ordained unto all men ONCE to die, and after that the judgement.”
Mary supposing the disguised Jesus to be a gardener, says unto him:

“Sir, if you have taken HIM hence, tell me where have you laid HIM . . .” (HOLY BIBLE) John 20:15

She is not looking for a corpse, for “it”. She is looking for a LIVE person, for “HIM”. And further, she wants to know as to “where have you ‘LAID’ him?” (i.e. To rest, to relax, to recuperate!) NOT, “where have you BURIED him?”
Unless there was no equivalent for the word"it" in the original language of the bible so it had to be translated as HIM
“So that I might take HIM away.” (HOLY BIBLE) John 20:15
What could she possibly do with his body, can she carry it alone.
“Touch me not!” (HOLY BIBLE) John 20:17
Why not? Is he a bundle of electricity, a dynamo, that if she touches him, she might get electrocuted? No! “Touch me not!”, because it would hurt. Though he appears normal to all intents and purposes, he had, nevertheless, been through a violent, physical and emotional ordeal. It would be excruciatingly painful if he allowed her any enthusiastic contact. Jesus continues:
“For I am not yet ASCENDED unto my Father.” (HOLY BIBLE) John 20:17

She is not blind. She can see the man standing there before her. What does he mean by “not yet ascended” — GONE UP — when he was DOWN right there? He is, in fact, telling her that he is not RESURRECTED from the DEAD. In the language of the Jew, in the idiom of the Jew, he is saying: “I AM NOT DEAD YETl” — He is saying: “I AM ALIVE!”
“And it came to pass, as he sat EATING with them, he took bread and blessed it, and broke it, and gave it to them”

(HOLY BIBLE) Luke 24:30

By the manner in which he brake bread (meaning the way he blessed it), “their eyes were opened”. Did they walk from Jerusalem to Emmaus with closed eyes? No! We are being told that the disciples recognised him only at that juncture. Luke continues with his story, that when they recognised him, “he vanished out of sight”. Did he do the Indian “Rope Trick”? Please don’t be ridiculous! What it means is that he went away. He went out of their sight.
Full of excitement, the two disciples rushed up to that upper room, where the other disciples were:-

“And they went and told it unto the residue (of the disciples), NEITHER BELEIVED they them”  (HOLY BIBLE) Mark 16:13

What is wrong with these disciples of Jesus? Why are they reluctant to believe? What is their difficulty? The problem is that they are confronted with evidence that Jesus is ALIVE! Not resurrected (i.e. not spiritualised), but evidence that he is the same physical Jesus, flesh and bones as any one of them! — Eating food! In disguise — but not a spirit and not a ghost. This is what they could not believe. If they were told that Mary had seen the ghost of Jesus, they would have believed. If the above two had told the rest that they too had seen the ghost of Jesus, they would certainly have believed that. They were a people who had seen spirits going into pigs and stampeding two thousand of them to destruction — (Mark 5:13). They had seen spirits going into trees and drying them up from their very roots overnight — (Mark 77:20). They had seen “seven devils” coming out of Mary Magdalene — (Mark 76:9). All this was quite natural to their age. Spirits, ghosts and devils! They could accept that which was believable at that time and age. But a LIVE Jesus? A physical Jesus? One who had escaped the stings of death — (Acts 2:24)? This was too heavy for their “little faith” — (Matthew 6:30; 8:26; 74:37; 76:8; and Luke 72:28).

Bulldog:
Hehehehehe, Anyone reading that will still spot the irony unless he's a muslem or maybe a complete slowpoke. Worshippers of the devil see how he makes you contradict yourselves

This is very annoying
How better could he av explained 2 u
U don't av to be very intelligent to understand that post,u only av to be human and reasonable
Obviously,Frosbel meant that law in the bible was 5000bc years old
He was rebuking lagosshia for quoting such verse as if he lived in the stone age.
If u still don't understand,plz refer back to INTENSIVE ENGLISH 3
and note that u might av to read book 1 and 2 thoroughly to grasp book 3

Somethings don't just settle in my mind
Sport is an activity that man gets himself involved in for few of his mundane reasons e.g pleasure,money,health etc
How has this become God's problem
The problems in the Nigerian football and other sports are caused by the humans themselves.
It so funny to think that God now watches football.........BRAVO!!!!!!He predicted that Nigeria was not going to qualify for AFCON
This sounds very belittling.
What prayer can Botswana possibly pray in a football match against Brazil
The sun comes on when it should
The moon comes out when it should,
It still rains
We still av air to breath in
We all still av food to eat.
These are God's problems.
Not man-made activities that we get ourselves involved in expecting God to do something about. We created it.
If we had wished, we could av named "football" something else or we could av decided not to create it in the first place
I also wonder what the Nigerian football team always gather themselves to say just b4 the match,
Maybe they pray to God to help them win,or to help so that they don't have injuries.

habiolah:
The Bible is God's word revealed through the lives and writings of men. God inspires, they write.

Well, how did we know this?

habiolah:
most of the writers never knew eachother, and yet they wrote in perfect harmony - can you beat that?

HARMONY!!!
U and I know that there are more than few inconsistencies in the bible.
Some can be explained away.
And sorry,some just can't.
To start with,
The genealogy of Jesus Christ
and don't u dare tell me one was from his mother and the other from is father.
As there are no indications of this in the bible.
And I guess u know where the verses are.

habiolah:
who are inspired of God

Well,that's what we've been told.

habiolah:
or the Quran which fell down from heaven/was handed over to a prophet by an angel which no one saw (could have been a demon for all I care):

Let me help u rephrase that

or the Quran which[b]we xtians believe[/b] fell down from heaven/was handed over to a prophet by an angel which no one saw (could have been a demon for all [b]we[/b]care):

habiolah:
how would you believe tthat a book actually fell down from heaven. I ccan imagine God hurl out the book through space.

Seriously it's quite difficult to believe
As is difficult to be
God had a son
He had to sacrifice his only son to forgive us our sins
He regrets
He was fought with and won over by man called Israel
Composed of three beings though equal.

habiolah:
So which sounds more like a fairy tale:

The word "bible" was from a Latin word that means books.the word bible is not in the bible itself
Different authors of the books of the bible are known
Some of which are true and some of which can't be true. E.g Moses couldn't av written deutronomy
His obituary appears in the last portion of this book.
Some writers of the bible are unknown
E.g who wrote the the book of Esther?
So which sounds more like a fairy tale?

I am a Muslim who understands the basics of his religion.
I am also someone who thinks the laws of Islam should be from the Quran
But not until recently,I never heard of the word"Shia."
I hear they believe Aisha was a prostitute(a'uudhzu billah) and so was abu bakr
As said above, i am a Muslim who seeks to understand his religion better
I can't boast of having read the all the books of the Hadith,but the few parts that I av read point to nothing of such
An event that can be referred to by the shallow minded is the event when the jewelry of Aisha was found in the bag of one of the companion.
And she has already been cleared off this.
The Quran attests to that
And unless the Shias don't accuse Aisha of prostitution,I think u should explain
And also,is Hussien, the grandson of the prophet any degree higher than all other companions
because I notice that imam hussien is always mentioned among the Shia more often than prophet mohammed(the website from which u got the picture attests to that.i almost couldnt find the name of the prophet xcept ones or twice ) just like hazrat gulam Ahmad is very much revered among the ahmadis .
U hear words like "the hussien of our Karbala"

Truly Satiric
A clear mockery of xtianity

it still all doesnt make sense 2 me
why i will need the holy spirit to understand "an english translated bible"

mpmp:
I have one of you in my office. He wears a sofe trouser

this doesn't prove much as it is just superficial.
Micheal Jackson wore sofe trousers during his lifetime and most people copy him in that , he was never insulted.why? maybe because he was a star.
people do not worry about the trousers of women going above their ankles,
there are 3-quarter trousers around.
crazy jean is common around and most people do not have problem with it, why?it's fashion, imagine if Islam introduced it
remember when we look at the photographs of our parents and laugh at their style of fashion, afro, old skool etc if we existed during that time, we would most likely be in the same fashion
the above sums up to mean that we only choose to like what we choose to like, if everybody had been wearing sofe trousers,everything will look normal
The sofe trouser might look awkward relative to today's fashion but i just doesn't mean Islam is false.
and remember,that the word "modern" is every time,
for example,we claim to be in a modern world.the same will be claimed by those 5000  years afterward when fashion would av changed
everything is modern at its own time.
the same goes for the word "civilization".those during the time of moses are more civilized than the people of luts so there are no such things as "we are in a civilized world".
no time was never uncivilised
every time is civilized at its own time

mpmp:
He has a gotee beard, and I bet you do to.

the same argument applies to this as above.
some professors and Jews keep their beards and heaven falleth not.
we watch xtian movies showing prophets of God who are fully bearded and i guess the movie writer av researched into the practices of the people b4 showing them in the movies.

mpmp:
You know what the guy  said on the day the UN building was bombed. The guy said "it was very good the the BokoHaram boys bombed the US building". SOmeone asked him why? he said "everybody has a right to fight for his religion, and that the BH boys were fighting for theirs. According to him, they were fighting a Jihad". It was around 9am in the morning.

very evil and callous are these words of his.
they are very contrary to the teachings of Islam and people like this should not be made to lead as evil will become widespread in the land.

mpmp:
His statement moved me, I was so angry, I almost slapped him. Someone just pulled me back right in time as I wanted to rush the guy. I might have slammed him through the glass wall office divider. It would have been disastrous.

this only goes to show that we are all human
we(xtians or Muslims) can sometimes  become very angry and possibly turn violent
guess if u had been a Muslim with beards and sofe trousers,the people around would be sure to av said,those Muslims are too violent and cannot almost tolerate anything.

mpmp:
The useless guy showed no remorse that an innocent life has been lost. Even if you hear that an okada man had an accident and his passenger got hurt, are you not supposed to have some feeling? No. This my guy was very happy on the particular day.

this only goes further to show how evil he is.

mpmp:
In the afternoon, I tried to recall all the silly arguments, similar to many of what Ive read on your posts and your many lectures here on NL. All of them seemed to make sense.

this is what i think should be our basis for knowing the truth.
"if u think somethings made sense of what he claimed against the bible, what is stopping u from dropping those believes or ideas"
unless they don't make sense

mpmp:
Later in the afternoon, I saw him leading others to pray; and after the prayer, I called some of his members aside and told them to be very careful. I narrated what happened in the morning to them. Since that day, his name changed to BokoHaram.

Since that day, my attitude changed. I don't hate him, but I keep him at a hands length.

u av done a good thing, an act peculiar to a good Muslim/xtian

mpmp:
I remember when this guy was first employed, I was very happy to see him reading the Bible. At first, i thought he was a Christian. He told me he was muslim. Then I thought, perhaps he was trying to convert. I remember he would come early in the morning, take one passage of the Bible, muddle it up and ask me to explain. At first, I thought he was curious, later I concluded he was seriously confused. I realized he had his mind madeup in a totally confused state; and that his show of Bible reading was just to gain attention. Perhaps, he thought he could confuse me.

well,i really cant blame him as there are millions of  muslims who dont understand the bible and i am not also spared.
For example, i used to ask my xtian friends to explain the verses below but they would tell me that i needed the holy spirit to understand its meaning.
And i would wonder why i would need the holy spirit to understand an English translated bible.

IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD,THE WORD WAS WITH GOD AND THE WORD WAS GOD

so xtians should endeavor to explain things from the bible to those who truly want 2 know

mpmp:
My guy LagosShia, if you think you are on the right path with your beliefs, I am not here to start an argument, but you are wrong. There is only one truth, and that truth is in God through Jesus Christ. All other ground is sinking sand.

maybe u should just prove it(the truth) to him so that he can shut his mouth up

mpmp:
Some of us have tried our hands in Islam and a couple of religions. It hasnt been worth it.

please enter "what Muslim converts have to say about Christianity" into Google and u will be stunned at the number of results.
try any pertinent link if u av the time

mpmp:
My prayer for you is that one day, even if it takes God working in you as he did to Saul of Tarsus, He would have His way in your life; so that with the same zeal as you try to dishonor the person of Jesus, with the same zeal, you will exhault him someday.

these are one of the few difficulties we Muslims av understanding the bible
and i will not blame lagosshia if he doesn't believe the above.
the conversion of Paul was reported more than twice in the chapter of the bible called acts of apostles(i assume u know the verses) and we do not know why  he had to give different accounts of the same event.
his account to the king was even more elaborate
lagosshia and muslims alike think that such person should not be trusted.
unless u think we are right i think  u should explain 2 us.

mpmp:
so that with the same zeal as you try to dishonor the person of Jesus, with the same zeal, you will exhault him someday.
And I pray it will happen to you in 2012.

Amen.
Amen.

i don't think so.
unless perhaps u prove it to him.
because someone said the same 2 him last year.

Gerrard59:
I will do all those,thats if i hv even done 10% of them,if you stop ucin the INTERNET

It is no news that civilization started from the east as the Muslims are among the earliest to explore fields of mathematics,geography,chemistry,surgery and biology.
And u will also agree that branches of these sciences make up what u know today as technology
And that includes ur phone,iPad,blackberry,PC and ur Internet facility
So if some1 should stop using the Internet,I think it should be u
As I av warned u to stay clear of anything "Islamic origin" or "Islamic influence".

Gerrard59:
@topic=Xtianity,Judaism,Hindusim e.t.c have problems bt ISLAM?

Maybe u av not searched enough.
Enter( Christianity/Judaism /Hinduism  problems) into google and u will be shocked by the number of results

Gerrard59:
iSLAM ITSELF IS A PROBLEM.

U should not even be mentioning that word "ISLAM"

Gerrard59:
What about dailytrust,presstv,al-jazeera.

yes,u can read or listen to their news provided they don't have Muslims in their family.

Gerrard59:
A building collapsed in beruit,Al-jazeera blamed israel.

Al jazeera is just a news agency and could not av blamed isreal for that.
Its duty is just to convey the news,the people's opinion,views etc.
What u claim above might just be the opinion of some officials in Beirut
It couldn't av been al jazeerah's.

God can do everything
Including everything SATANIC and EVIL.
But he just WON'T do them.

How funny
THE QURAN IS FALSE because IT HAS LINKS WITH 666
and what is 666?
A NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH THE BEAST ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE
conclusively
THE QURAN IS FALSE BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS RIGHT

For me,I take surah 26,shu'ara (the poets)

For me ,surah 26 shu'ara(the poets)

It can really become tiring explaining Islam to Christians , so if I may ask,how better could the Muslims have explain to u all, "ISLAM IS PEACE" and couldn't have condone the killing of innocent people and Islam should not be judged according to the actions of some "OFFSIDE MUSLIMS" but if u still insist otherwise,then I say FINE

Disown all your Muslim friends including the ones u may have in ur family,as landlords, bosses and colleagues
Desist from eating indomie and gala as they both have Arabic inscriptions on them(pathetically, anything Arabic is considered Islamic)
Advise GEJ to sack the CBN governor and his own vice and if he refuses,resort to protesting.
Don't ply any street named after any Muslim.
Gather all naira notes with Arabic inscriptions for the Muslims especially the 1000 naira notes .
Stay away from places where Muslims make the call to prayer and please flee this country during any of their festivals  Algebra (a branch in mathematics)was developed by a muslim so don't take any math except maybe Statistics  and from  any technology developed from algebra, DESIST.that includes your wall clock and perhaps ur mobile phone.
Some drugs have Arabic written on them and I guess u know what to do
Stop seeking employments in Muslim own companies.
Please don't fly any Arik airline,a Muslim owns it.
Why should u do all this? because u should not be known with the bad people
One more thing.plz don't read this post because it was written by a Muslim