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Culture › Re: Comparing Slave Numbers from Bight of Benin and Bight of Biafra from 1400 - 1865 by Olu317(m): 7:58pm On Jan 26, 2017
Funjosh:
if i may get your point and question, something must have been the reason while Yoruba slaves were not been exported at the time other part of Africa are been shipped to the new world, does it mean the Yoruba were well organized and strong and could resist the slave masters huh

cc bigfrancis21
THE QUESTION YOU DIRECTED AT bigfrancis is basically waste of time. I can inform you that will try to give you a pseudo information as regards the true state of things. Factors for large concentration of Yoruba in Americas should be a pointer to the needed answer. After all Ibos claims Israelites identity yet, they had no kingly kingdoms. And very unorganized. They lived a republican lifestyle with no central authority. How can such people claim to have been the largest in Americas. They come on Nairaland breaking Yoruba into different groups and not under one ethnic group and you think you can get to the root of matter through him. It is practically impossible. A guy that said Agudas are the only set of people that came back to Yoruba land, especially to Lagos. Does he know king Kosoko asked many Yoruba to return and help build Lagos? Does even know King Akitoye did the same thing?, Does he know some of these Yoruba men that came back still had children and families in Americas in during this period? I thought the JEWS dominate anywhere they find themselves, how come Yoruba Ethnicity in Americas are the largest group? They are even so crazy about it to let the whole world know where their ancestral parents came from was from YORUBA LAND in West Africa, despite their Hispanic looks etc. Yoruba Remain the best and the most envied Ethnicity in the world. Do you know why? google the most researched ethnicity in the world. Be proud of who you are and not stoop low to bring down others because they are better and more organized. Yoruba Rules
Culture › Re: Comparing Slave Numbers from Bight of Benin and Bight of Biafra from 1400 - 1865 by Olu317(m): 7:37pm On Jan 26, 2017
bigfrancis21:
Once again, the image below confirms that Yoruba slave numbers were insignificant (2% - 10%) in the Bight of Benin slave trade, even dropping to as low as 2% in 1710, from 1640 to 1740, then we begin to see slight increases from 16% in the 1750s to 53% in 1820s, to as high as 85% in the 1830s (once again during the period of Oyo-Dahomean wars) and dropping to 79% between 1840s and 1860s.

Interesting! The Aja peoples overwhelmingly dominated the Bight of Benin slave trade from as high as 97% in the 1680s up until 1800s (49%) and were at par with Yoruba slaves at 36% in the 1810s.

Once again, the only period Yoruba slaves dominated the Bight of Benin slave trade is between 1820 to 1860 during the fall of the Oyo empire and the Oyo-Dahomean wars.

Realistic figure from SW Nigeria: 437,700, still within the initial estimate of 456,500.
AJA PEOPLE ARE FROM WHICH TRIBE OR MORE SPECIFICALLY WHICH ETHNICITY?
Culture › Re: Yoruba Cities, Towns And Villages- What Do Their Names Mean? by Olu317(m):
absoluteSuccess:
Most of the scholars are deluded on Yoruba history: they want to reverence Odua and also reverence an unknown history at the same time. They want to say Odua existed but did not exist, they are confused.

Ile Ife may be the capital of Yorba at inception, as Lokoja is to Nigeria, but it is not where Yoruba originated from. Yoruba created Ile Ife, they were not created at Ile Ife. In fact the hero of Ife is not Odua but Moremi.

Omode gbon agba gbon lafi dale Ife: ife is an expanse built into city, most of the ancient cities said to be of Odua sons existed as at the same time Ile Ife was founded.

The creation theory sprang from deliberately misunderstanding the phrase 'nibi oju rere gbeti nmo wa le aye' which says the place is in the east, 'where sunrise spread across the land'.

This is where I became submisive to the arguments of metaphysical, who claimed that ile ife is borrowed from Nineveh, even people of middle east of hebrew time refer to the place (Nineveh) as east too.

Yoruba adopted place names from their wellspring. Its either that Ile-Ife history reminisce the Genesis account or Yoruba scholars are plagiarising hebrew tradition of creation. One was first published.
There isn't any plagiarism of the Hebrew's scriptures from what I have been able to decipher. Take for instance,how was it possible for the Yoruba to have knowledge on ancient and still worship of SKULL as DIVINE SKULL of Yoruba kings which is the same with the ancient Israelites. There is no account of any tribes of Israelites worshipping such in any part of the world. At ILE IFE, there are thirteen (13) communities and the same with Israelites ancient Israelites. Nearly everything that was being practise by the Israelites for atonement of sins are also done in Yoruba tradition, how is it possible? description of Yoruba almighty God is closer to the same as Israelites; rub his head in white local powder and consulted korofo if he will die but Korofo said he ‘God' cannot die. This is unbelievable when I came across this IFA eulogy on Yoruba God written by professor Bolaji Idowu
Culture › Re: Yoruba Cities, Towns And Villages- What Do Their Names Mean? by Olu317(m): 11:26am On Jan 26, 2017
absoluteSuccess:
I won't to believe that metaphysical was just plucking names when he first shared the notion of nineveh, but when he came up with Ogori Magogo, I was completely stunned. He's was the notion that Ogori Magogo has to do with Gog and Magog.

Of course there are noisemakers here that has never made any impressive contributions save confrontation, but the wisdom is, no one can silence the quest for truth. Ile Ife history is part of Yoruba history, not the whole of Yoruba history.

Using ife to silence every other piece of history is folly, it is akin to internal imperialism. The notion that ife is the origin of the Yoruba did not trace to anywhere, its just a bail out for intellectual comatose of Yoruba scholars,

Yoruba enclave is built by leagues of kindred, every constituency has a valid account that trace back to source. That source has been lost to time, but we can upturn the roubles and find out where.

We are seekers after the truth of the story, not the deceit.
The true history haven't being lost. in fact I am tempted to doubt the name of Odua as his real name but where they came from. From oral account ,he said they were from the East, and from Adua which may naturally mean from Judua. I have seen record of Babylonians during the reign of the Assyrian king Asherplashur1. In one of the triumphant record over Israel, when they took all the lettered to Assyria and left behind all the illiterates in Israel in which it was inscribed instead of JUDUA as JADUA. This was similar to the original name of Odua which was ADUA before it was later changed to ODUDUWA because of the tonal pronunciation. The name ANASARA was the priest name of ancient Israelite while Yoruba own was ASARA. I am yet to know how this came to being. mashé is the Israelites word with the same meaning with Yoruba Ashé. How on earth do Yoruba the knowledge of Supreme being and imole (spirit being/angel like)? How do they have knowledge of Esu laalu ogiri oko? The same meaning with the Bible, the deceiver, liar, killer etc? haven't been able to be explained vividly by other internal Yoruba researchers yet it hurt me to find WHITE RESEARCHERS telling us about who we are. It is a shame on Yoruba men who are in the field of history and wouldn't do anything to unravel this mystery. I hope more light will be thrown to darken part of our real identity. We are too sophisticated and large to be indigenously aboriginal of West Africa. This has nothing to do being ethnocentric but the knowledge these people brought and showed in the expanse land of Yoruba land. We aren't cannibals as most Africans were, We had a organised system of government of monarchial system which had nothing to do with religion knowledge, we had belief in a supreme God and this God can't die. This is too much to behold of a people who does have existence of God's power of Calling to being or manifest (Power of word) . Even at the height of Egypt, Thebes , Ethiopia they had no knows knowledge of worshipping of Supreme God who couldn't die .
Culture › Re: Yoruba Cities, Towns And Villages- What Do Their Names Mean? by Olu317(m): 8:57pm On Jan 25, 2017
absoluteSuccess:
Most of the scholars are deluded on Yoruba history: they want to reverence Odua and also reverence an unknown history at the same time. They want to say Odua existed but did not exist, they are confused.

Ile Ife may be the capital of Yorba at inception, as Lokoja is to Nigeria, but it is not where Yoruba originated from. Yoruba created Ile Ife, they were not created at Ile Ife. In fact the hero of Ife is not Odua but Moremi.

Omode gbon agba gbon lafi dale Ife: ife is an expanse built into city, most of the ancient cities said to be of Odua sons existed as at the same time Ile Ife was founded.

The creation theory sprang from deliberately misunderstanding the phrase 'nibi oju rere gbeti nmo wa le aye' which says the place is in the east, 'where sunrise spread across the land'.

This is where I became submisive to the arguments of metaphysical, who claimed that ile ife is borrowed from Nineveh, even people of middle east of hebrew time refer to the place (Nineveh) as east too.

Yoruba adopted place names from their wellspring. Its either that Ile-Ife history reminisce the Genesis account or Yoruba scholars are plagiarising hebrew tradition of creation. One was first published.
PHARAOH WHO ORDERED THE JEWISH SETTLERS TO LEAVE BECAUSE OF USE OF RAM FOR SACRIFICE AROUND 650BC OR SO . THIS PLACE WAS CALLED ASWAN AND YEB IN ELEPHANTÉ IN EGYPT. THE TWO CITIES WERE HABITATION OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE AS A RESULT PACT SIGNED EARLIER WITH AN EGYPTIANS PHARAOH AROUND 3OOBC TO BE MERCENARIES AND THEY LIVED THERE TILL IT GREW WITH MANY JEWS MIGRATED DUE TO DESTRUCTION OF NORTHERN ISRAEL . THIS IS WHERE I DISCOVERED ONE OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IS THAT THE EGYPTIANS DIDNT HAVE A SUPREME GOD AS YORUBA DOES BUT WORSHIP RAM AND OTHER gods .THE ASSYRIANS THROUGH THEIR KING AROUND 620 BC ENTERED EGYPT AND DESTROYED IT BUT LEFT ISRAELITES TEMPLE UNTOUCHED WHICH WAS THE REASON THE EGYPTIANS DESTROYED THE ISRAELITES TEMPLE AFTER NEBUCHADNEZZAR INVADED EGYPT AND GONE .THIS WAS DONE AFTER A WHILE WHEN EGPTIANS REVOLTED AND DESTROYED THE TEMPLE WHERE THEY OFFERED RAM AS A SACRIFICE TO ELI TELL YHUDA (GOD) FOR CLEANSING. AND ELEPHANTE WAS WITHIN THE SAME DELTA REGION OF EGYPT. ANOTHER ASPECTS IS THAT YORUBA SUPREME GOD LIVES FOREVER. HE CANNOT DIE.... IF RAM AND OTHER DIFFERENCES ABOUND BETWEEN YORUBA AND EGYPT,NOR YORUBA BEING INDIGENOUS BECAUSE OF ADVANCED ANCIENT SOPHISTICATION, WHY DO WE NOT DO MORE RESEARCH ON IDENTITY IRRESPECTIVE OF CURRENT COLOUR. WHEN I SAW MANY YORUBA PEOPLE FROM AMERICAS DIASPORA. I WAS SO SHOCKED BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL CHANGED TO HISPANIC. EVEN SOME AS NEARLY WHITE AS EUROPEANS. THEN CAN IT BE SAID THAT, THESE COMPLEXION WAS PERHAPS THE ORIGINAL ANCIENT YORUBA. YORUBA IN DIASPORA ARE MORE THAN IN NIGERIA.
Culture › Re: Yoruba Cities, Towns And Villages- What Do Their Names Mean? by Olu317(m): 7:21pm On Jan 25, 2017
absoluteSuccess:
Most of the scholars are deluded on Yoruba history: they want to reverence Odua and also reverence an unknown history at the same time. They want to say Odua existed but did not exist, they are confused.

Ile Ife may be the capital of Yorba at inception, as Lokoja is to Nigeria, but it is not where Yoruba originated from. Yoruba created Ile Ife, they were not created at Ile Ife. In fact the hero of Ife is not Odua but Moremi.

Omode gbon agba gbon lafi dale Ife: ife is an expanse built into city, most of the ancient cities said to be of Odua sons existed as at the same time Ile Ife was founded.

The creation theory sprang from deliberately misunderstanding the phrase 'nibi oju rere gbeti nmo wa le aye' which says the place is in the east, 'where sunrise spread across the land'.

This is where I became submisive to the arguments of metaphysical, who claimed that ile ife is borrowed from Nineveh, even people of middle east of hebrew time refer to the place (Nineveh) as east too.

Yoruba adopted place names from their wellspring. Its either that Ile-Ife history reminisce the Genesis account or Yoruba scholars are plagiarising hebrew tradition of creation. One was first published.
I CAN SEE SENSE IN THE CORRUPT PRONUNCIATION OF NINEVEH AS ILE IFE. I HAVE SEEN DIFFERENT RESEARCHERS UNABLE TO IDENTIFY YORUBA WITH WITH AFRICAN ORIGIN. LUCAS IN HIS BOOK IDENTIFYING YORUBA HAVING ALMOST 50% SIMILARITY IN PRONUNCIATIONS IN YORUBA LANGUAGE FROM EGYPT(KEMITIC) YET THE CULTURE WAS WITH EGYPT ARE DIFFERENT. TAKE FOR INSTANCE THE USE OF RAM FOR RITUALS IN YORUBA RELIGION WAS PRACTICALLY AGAINST EGYPTIANS RELIGION. THIS EVEN LED TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAELITES HABITAT IN EGYPT DURING THE REIGN
Culture › Re: Yoruba Cities, Towns And Villages- What Do Their Names Mean? by Olu317(m): 7:28am On Jan 25, 2017
lawani:
IF YOU SAY CALENDAR MEANS NOTHING TO YOU, ALL WELL AND GOOD! IT MEANS A LOT TO ME. IT MAKES ME KNOW THAT THE PRESENT CULTURE I AM UNDER WAS ESTABLISHED 10060 YEARS AGO AFTER AN ADVANCED CIVILIZATION CALLED IFE OODAYE KNOWN AS WADAI WAS DESTROYED. THIS NEW ONE IS THE REMNANT OF THE FIRST EARTH HEADQUARTER AFTER THAT DESTRUCTION OF 10060 YEARS AGO. A NEW IFE MAY BE ESTABLISHED AS A YORUBA CAPITAL SAY IN TOGO OR BENIN (THEY ALL HAVE IFE SITES MAWUFE, AMADZOFE ETC) THIS YEAR AND NAMED IFE OLODUmARE OR WHATEVER. CAN YOU BASE THE AGE OF THE CIVILIZATION ON THE AGE OF THAT NEW IFE? CONSIDER IT WELL MY BROTHER.
WITH GREAT RESPECT DO I HAVE FOR MANY OF US TREMENDOUSLY STUDYING THE RELEVANCE OF MYTH AND HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVES OF YORUBA WORLD. HOWEVER, THERE ARE FLAWS IN SOME OF THEIR PRONOUNCEMENT ON THE FOUNDATION OF EARTH IN COMPARISON WITH ISRAEL CREATION MYTH AND WHICH SCIENTISTS CALLED EVOLUTION OF EARTH (THE BIG BANG THEORY) . SOME OF YORUBA PERSPECTIVE CAN REALLY BE SAID TO BE INACCURATE VIS A VIS OOYE-LA-AGBO MYTH,CREATION MYTH, CREATOR MYTH, DIVINITY MYTH. THOUGH THERE IS NO IOTA OF DOUBT ABOUT YORUBA ANCIENT ETHNICITY HAVING KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUPREME BEING BUT ILE IFE WAS NEVER THE FIRST SPOT LIGHT EMANATED FROM. WHAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEDUCED WAS THE YORUBA PEOPLE ELIMINATED THE ANCIENT NOK PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARRIVED AT THE LOCATION ADDUCED AS THE BEGINNING OF WORLD. THE FACTS ON GROUND TESTIFY TO IT. YORUBA'S ILE IFE WAS NEVER THE FIRST PLACE HUMAN'S OLDEST SKULL DISCOVERED AND IS NEVER THE OLDEST PART ON THE PLANET EARTH. I DENOUNCE THE CALENDAR BECAUSE OF ITS IN ACCURACY THOUGH IT LAY CLAIM TO ITS OWN CALCULATION WHICH COMMENCED IN JUNE 3rd 2016 to REPRESENT 10058th YORUBA YEAR AND ENDS IN JUNE 2nd 2017.BRO ,THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT YORUBA ETHNICITY IS A UNIQUE GROUP BEING THE MOST RESEARCHED IN THE WORLD . BUT WE AREN'T AN INDIGENOUS STOCKS NEITHER ARE WE EGYPTIANS BREEDS. I TOOK MY TO TRY TO BRING FEW AND POSSIBLE EXTENDED CRITICISM AND MORE RESEARCH ON IT. ONE PARTICULAR GUY USED A FOUL LANGUAGE ON ME AND I DIDN'T TAKE HIM UP ON IT BECAUSE HE IS A YORUBA STOCK. SO BRO, TRUTHFULLY, SOME THEORIES PROPOUNDED BY PEOPLE ON YORUBA PEOPLE AREN'T TRUE. ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTION IS; HOW WAS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE OBATALA ODUA AND THE REST TO HAD WORN LONG ROBE IN THEIR TIME? IF YOU HAVE CLUE TO IT, KINDLY LET ME KNOW.
Culture › Re: Yoruba Cities, Towns And Villages- What Do Their Names Mean? by Olu317(m): 6:28pm On Jan 24, 2017
lawani:
OWA MEAN JJC TO ME JOLLY JUST COME. OWA DENOTES A STRANGER THAT WAS MADE KING. AJIBOGUN AKA OBOKUN WAS A NEW PERSON THAT ESTABLISHED IJESA OVER THE LANDS OF DEFUNCT IFE STATES. IJESA IS LESS THAN 2000 YEARS OLD AND THIS IS YEAR 10060 OF YORUBA CALENDAR. IT IS YEAR 10060 OF IFE OOYELAGBO THE FIRST CITY ESTABLISHED AFTER AN APOCALYPSE. IFE STATES LIKE IRE, ARAMOKO, IJERO, IRELE ETC HAD EXISTED THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE THE NEW ONES OF IJESA, BENIN, IJEBU, OYO AND ETC WERE FORMED. THOSE NEW ONES WERE MAINLY ESTABLISHED BY THE CHILDREN OF A STRANGER THAT WAS CROWNED THE OLOFIN IN ILE IFE. ORANMIYAN WAS ONE, OBOKUN WAS ANOTHER. THERE WERE MANY OF THEM.
LEAVE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF KINGDOMS OUT OF IT. AND DONT QUOTE CALENDAR FOR ME BECAUSE THE YEAR OF OCCUPATION AT ILE IFE DATES BACK TO 3rd/4th/5th CENTURY. AND PROPER URBANISATION CAME UP AROUND 1000AD DURING THE IRON AGE. IF A PLACE ISN'T POPULAR, DOES IT MEAN, IT NEVER EXISTED?, WHERE DO YOU PUT OBA?,ALL THESE PLACES YOU MENTIONED WERE DEVELOPING WITH OTHERS. OBOKUN WAS NEVER A NAME BUT AN ALIAS. SO BRO GET YOUR FACT RIGHT.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Olu317(m): 11:03am On Jan 24, 2017
Boss13:
Apart from the Bible, what other book of truth have you read? There is this popular proverb in Nigeria - my mama soup na hin sweet pass, until you taste your neighbor mama soup, you will know the difference.

On the other hand, I was expecting you to pick each of the things I listed and address them. For me, this is not a conquest. I have read the Bible and other books and I know the difference. In short, those books aid me to understand the Bible. That is why when President01 was giving his false prediction I quickly called his attention.

I don't blame President01 for his false prediction, I'd rather blame him for his arrogance and now he is humbled. If the Bible had done a good job to address the kingdom of God, there would be no confusion.
I didn't read much books but am vast my dear. Scientifically, it has been proven that there was an alteration of the time which was done by JOSHUA of Hebrews/Jews/Isrealites or whatever name you want to address them with. Kindly refer a book of such magnitude. Even the Quaran that truly ranks behind the Bible have similarities with the Bible but some differences in some aspects, especially, war against infidels, marriage, fruits of Godliness, Jesus Christ as being saviour of mankind etc. In the court of law, where two testify on a thing, then it said to be real. Can't you see?, The world is blessed so much with gift of choice, I thank God because he guided me to have chosen my path and have you chosen yours?
Culture › Re: Oranmiyan As The First Oba In Bini Kingdom by Olu317(op): 10:52am On Jan 24, 2017
BornStunner1:
[[s]quote author=Olu317 post=53029745]YORUBA IS NOT A TRIBE BUT A “NAATTIIOONN". WHO SABI UNA? YORUBA NATION IS KNOWN ALL OVER THE WORLD. AGAIN, SANGO(SHANGO) IS KNOWN IN MORE THAN FORTY COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD .TELL ME HOW MANY COUNTRIES CAN IDENTIFY OGODOMIGO(EDO) VILLAGES ? DONT COUNT BINI OH BECAUSE BINI IS A YORUBA LAND. DID YOU HEAR WHAT THE OBA DID SOME FEW DAYS AGO? WHEN HE RIGHTFULLY REINSTATED IHAMA/ILAMA(THE ORIGINAL CHIEF PRIEST FAMILY THAT CAME WITH OTHERS FROM ILE IFE to BINI IN THE ENTOURAGE OF ORANMIYAN AND WHEN ORANMIYAN LEFT,THEY STAYED BACK WITH THE NEWLY BORN OWOKA) HOUSE BINI AS THE CHIEF PRIEST OF THE LAND. HEHEHE .You are a big time joker! Better locate your history, may be you are a Fulani blood claiming EDO. [/s]


YORUBALAND WOULD ALWAYS BE SUBJECTS TO THE GREAT BENIN EMPIRE!!

YOU ARE SUCH A WASTED SPACE I PITY UR DESTINY HEHEHEHE

YOU CANNOT EVEN TYPE PROPER ENGLISH HAHAHA

IHAMA WENT FROM BENIN TO IFE THAT WASTELAND YOU CALL HOME TO BRING BACK OUR BENIN PRINCE THAT TAUGHT U ALL OUR TRADITION N CULTURE!!

THE FACT STILL REMAINS U YORUBAS AND NOTHING........ NOTHING WITHOUT BENIN STOLEN CULTURE!!!!!

IF NOT FOR PRINCE EKELEREHAN IZODUWA THAT CIVILIZED U PPL WILL PPL WULD STILL BE NAKED IN THE BUSH EATING SAND!!


YORUBAS ARE SLAVES AND WULD FOREVER BE SO TO THE GREAT EDIOD NATION!!!


HECK!! WE EVEN REGARD THEM ISOKO PPL PASS UNA!! grin grin grin
..THE TRUTH UNDETERRED AS IT WAS IN THE BEGINNING, SO SHALL IT BE NOW AND FOREVER . WHERE DID YOU LEARN YOUR HISTORY FROM? IS YOUR IZODUWA WISE ENOUGH TO EVEN HAVE A CROWN ON HIS HEAD? YOU BETTER GO AND READ HISTORY VERY WELL IF YOU KNOW NOTHING OF IT. KINDLY CORRECT MY ENGLISH IF YOU ARE LETTERED TO THE APEX. IDENTITY SEEKING COMMONER.
Culture › Re: Yoruba Cities, Towns And Villages- What Do Their Names Mean? by Olu317(m): 9:43am On Jan 24, 2017
lawani:
Ijo just as used in church ijo irapada, ijo aguda, it means congregation. Esa means carefully selected. So Ijesa means congregation of elite. Let us just say Ekun means strong man, that is the real meaning before being applied to animal. In Egypt, it meant strong man just like Ijesas use it. Ijesas are called Omo Ekun which means children of the valiant.

Owa means newly arrived. Owa Obokun means the newly arrived king whose name is Obokun. Obokun is the alias of Oduduwa's son who got the brine to cure his blindness.

Atakunmosa, i think means Ati okun mo osa. He who got to the lagoon via the sea or knew the lagoon and the ocean. It is something to do with seafaring.
OWA means more than some one who arrived. Wa is Come, O WA is different from OWA. OWA(EXIST/HE LIVES) is a princely name turned Eulogy and title which is genealogically son of Odua. OBOKUN was the princely description of him as Salty water fetcher ( Sea) .No one or group bears that name except from Odua lineage. How do I know? It is because I AM FROM OWA LINEAGE.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Olu317(m): 6:48pm On Jan 23, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
most far eastern countries don't give a rat's ass behind about the Jewish folklore book
You know nothing about history and the role the Bible play in it all. Let me allow you enjoy your belief. Have a lovely adventure.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Olu317(m): 4:10pm On Jan 23, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
I'm curious, what concerns FAR EAST with the Bible?
I GUESS YOU JUMPED UNTO THIS WRITE UP .HOWEVER ,YOU CHECK TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE DIGRESSED TO MIDDLE EAST. STILL THE BIBLE ORIGINATED FROM THE MIDDLE EAST.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Olu317(m): 4:03pm On Jan 23, 2017
Boss13:
My Brother, I have read the Bible thrice and I still read it when I find the time. The Bible did a poor job in explaining the Kingdom of God or explaining the God concept. What I now know about the Kingdom of God or the Infinite Consciousness, I learnt from studying other books. On the other hand, the Bible did a good job is explaining how the Jewish nation came to being - their creation, their growth, their tribulations, their conquest, their happy moments and their ending.

Little was said about God, death, life after death, the Kingdom of God or heaven as we know it.
All the aforementioned of yours are explained in the Bible except you don't pay attention to them or you read the Bible like a Novel. The Bible can be ordinary in the hands of those who don't know the POWER in it. I have never seen any books being explicit about the resurrection more than the Bible. The truth is that we human beings tends to hold on to our different beliefs and I don't have any problem with it but where the problems manifest is when given other books preeminence over the Bible. From Aleppo to Saudi Arabia to Egypt. Biblical evidence coronate their findings yet no other books did that. Genesis, introduce God,Numbers,exodus ,Precisely Samuel mentioned God king and his abilities as the Supreme being, psalms talked about how he (God) want to be referred ,praise and honoured .Lamentation/songs of Solomon talked about consequence of sins, Ezekiel /Isaiah /Jeremiah/Daniel/ talked about death etc . I rest my case.
Politics › Re: Muslim Yoruba, Ambode, Marks Ladipo Market For Demolition by Olu317(m): 7:10am On Jan 23, 2017
BabaRamota1980:
Barely a week after a surprise visit by the Lagos state governor, Akinwumi Ambode, to the popular Ladipo auto spare market, the Lagos state government has given the traders in the market a two-week notice ahead of the demolition of the market.
The visit by the governor had earlier calmed the nerves of the traders who had been gripped with fear after the Lagos state government, in 2015, announced plans to demolish a number of markets, as well as rebuild some to make Lagos, the economic capital of Nigeria, organised and beautiful.
The popular Ladipo market is not only known in Nigeria, but also patronised by nationals from neighbouring West African states of Benin and Chad. It is by far one of the most popular auto markets. Nevertheless, as much as it is popular for its auto wares, it is as much popular among Lagosian for its terrible odour. The market was once closed in 2015 by the Lagos state government due to the poor hygiene of the traders, which had polluted the environment. The market was later reopened after well meaning Nigerians intervened to secure promises of improved hygiene from the traders upon reopening. However, it took just a couple of weeks for the traders to return to their old ways of dumping refuse on waterways.
The proposed demolition, which is not a move by the Lagos state government to punish the marketers for their poor hygiene, is not only welcome but had tarried for long. As a reason, the government said the demolition of a part of the market would create room for the construction of a car park which will further ease movement within the market. The construction of the car park, as well as the renovation of two major roads within the park, will decongest the ever-busy Mushin road. At the end of the reconstruction of the soon-to-be demolished part of the market, the Ladipo market will in every sense be international.
The proposed demolition of the market will be the second major market demolished in 2017 after the popular Oshodi cotton market was demolished earlier in the year as part of the development and urbanisation plan of the Lagos state government. This will also not be the first time the market will be facing demolition. About 70 shops were demolished by the Lagos state in 2013 after marketers reportedly contravened environmental laws. Also in 2015, about 100 shops were said to have been demolished on the order of the chairman of the Mushin Local council.
However, as much as the demolition will serve a good purpose on the long run, the two-week notice of eviction appears to be too short, especially for the traders that have little or no other option, in the absence of a makeshift structure by the Lagos state government. The government should at least give a month for traders to get themselves a play where they can continue fetching their means of, livelihood while the market is being rebuilt and retouched
I SEE THE SHORT NOTICE AS OVER DUE AND THE PROBLEM ASSOCIATED WITH TRADERS' EXECUTIVE ALWAYS BRIBING THE AUTHORITY TO POSTPONE THE DOOM'S DAY. IN THE INTEREST OF THE HARDWORKING TRADERS,A MAKE SHIFT STRUCTURE NEED BE PROVIDED TEMPORARILY BY THE LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT . AND I HOPE LESSONS HAVE BEEN LEARNT BY THESE TRADERS.
Politics › Re: Olubunu Of Bunu Refuses To Shake Yahaya Bello (Photo) by Olu317(m): 6:56am On Jan 23, 2017
IT SHOWED LACK OF RESPECT FOR TRADITIONAL RULERS. KOGI STATE GOVERNOR THAT CAME INTO POWER THROUGH THE BACK DOOR OF IGBIRA BLOOD DEFINITELY LEARNT HIS LESSON FROM THE OBA.
Politics › Re: The Death Of OPC And The Impending Problem (yorubas Only) by Olu317(m): 6:36am On Jan 23, 2017
Fyno:
do you have any evidence of GEJ giving dollars to any Oba?
Have any Oba come out openly to tell us the amount of dollars GEJ gave to him?
Yorubas are known for one thing and that is respect for our elders,here you have branded our Obas greedy just to support APC and portray PDP as bad.
I don't blame you because APC came like a tsunami and swept everyone with their propaganda but truth is that I have discovered that even if GEJ gave our Obas money, they deserved it more than our political leaders, if GEJ gave OPC money, they deserve it because they play a more important role in our day to day life than our political leaders whose interest comes first before that of the common man.
Finally learn how not to insult people in the course of airing your view because I'm entitled to mine!
The person you quoted is probably Ibo or another tribe. And he among others will see nothing ut to insult the intelligence purpose of this write up. Kindly pay less attention to him because he isn't worth the stress.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Olu317(m): 10:59pm On Jan 22, 2017
Boss13:
Brother, I beckon on you to travel to the Far East and obtain for yourself first hand knowledge. Christianity is very popular in the west and areas pre-occupied by European colonial masters. However, in the east, the mentioned religion are far more popular. In one of my recent travels to the Far East, you hardly find christians around except European tourists.

The Bible is not the only source of truth, you can start with the Koran and then proceed to other books like the kabalah. Only then would you begin to see similarities amongst these religion sects.
IF YOU KNOW MUCH ABOUT FAR EAST KNOWLEDGE AND HISTORY, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE INTRICACY OF HOW CHRISTIANITY WAS MADE MANIFEST. THE BIBLE ISN'T A CHRISTIAN BOOK ONLY BUT A HOLY BIBLE. BOOK TALKING ABOUT GOD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH. THE SPIRITUAL CONTROLLER OF ALL THINGS.
Culture › Re: Oranmiyan As The First Oba In Bini Kingdom by Olu317(op): 1:45pm On Jan 22, 2017
BornStunner1:
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TRASH!!

IS YORUBA A TRIBEhuh
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WHO SABI UNA?? grin grin

YORUBA A DEROGATORY WORD USED TO REFER TO AMALA TRADERS IN KANO HAHAHAHA OZOUR
YORUBA IS NOT A TRIBE BUT A “NAATTIIOONN". WHO SABI UNA? YORUBA NATION IS KNOWN ALL OVER THE WORLD. AGAIN, SANGO(SHANGO) IS KNOWN IN MORE THAN FORTY COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD .TELL ME HOW MANY COUNTRIES CAN IDENTIFY OGODOMIGO(EDO) VILLAGES ? DONT COUNT BINI OH BECAUSE BINI IS A YORUBA LAND. DID YOU HEAR WHAT THE OBA DID SOME FEW DAYS AGO? WHEN HE RIGHTFULLY REINSTATED IHAMA/ILAMA(THE ORIGINAL CHIEF PRIEST FAMILY THAT CAME WITH OTHERS FROM ILE IFE to BINI IN THE ENTOURAGE OF ORANMIYAN AND WHEN ORANMIYAN LEFT,THEY STAYED BACK WITH THE NEWLY BORN OWOKA) HOUSE BINI AS THE CHIEF PRIEST OF THE LAND. HEHEHE .You are a big time joker! Better locate your history, may be you are a Fulani blood claiming EDO.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Olu317(m): 11:41am On Jan 22, 2017
Boss13:
I honestly do not understand most of your sentences. However, the Bible is not the oldest book in the world. Buddhism and Hinduism are the oldest religion in the world and much older than Christianity and they both have manuscripts older than the Bible.

If Christians seek to gain more understanding about their religion, they must read wide, be tolerant to other books of truth. The Bible did not do sufficient justice in explaining the kingdom of God, but other books of truth were able to do that. When you have this knowledge and then read the Bible, you will understand the parables of Jesus and the confusion would be clear.

You can start with the Gospel of Thomas which was removed from the Bible. It still retains much of the four popular gospel texts but in it Jesus said something when his disciples asked when will the kingdom of God come and he replied, it will not come by waiting or by pointing it is here or there, but the kingdom of God is already within
My dear, if you don't follow what I had written earlier in sequence then you might find it hard to understand. However, Budhuism and Hinduism aren't older than the Bible. Specifically, did Buddhism had Biblical perspective of almighty God?, Did it recognised Pharaoh tenure on earth and the land of Egypt as the most civilized of ancient times? Did Buddhism recognised Amon/Thebes (city of hundred gates in her book ? ,Please let not be biased irrespective of religion differences. I haven't come across any researchers who had refer to Buddhist Book as a reference point to his or her work . Even Yoruba Ethnicity testify to the Bible. How? The belief of ONE SUPREME INDIVISIBLE GOD. I don't know where you came across your own but his I learnt from a professor when I was in the University days. And I have learned and done research on historians claim at par with the Holy Bible.
Politics › Re: The Death Of OPC And The Impending Problem (yorubas Only) by Olu317(m): 11:18am On Jan 22, 2017
aljharem:
@ Bolded. I think that is the only solution but for now they are handicapped and to make matters worse any stranger (Fulani/Boko haram and South-south militants) Are just raping, robbing and kidnapping our people anyhow. This is very painful !!!!
If Yoruba start, they will say, we are not hospitable but the atrocities these miscreants from south south guys and the rest commit are seen by the whole ethnic groups but blind and deaf hear do they adopt. The time is near for judgement to take it course. I just can't imagine the insult when an Oba Iba ( Awori Ojo local government) was kidnapped with ease. Although, there is/ are always insiders if such crime are committed in Yoruba land. There isn't a smoke without fire. I hope, Yoruba nation will sit and give a deep thought about our position for being in Nigeria. We have seen a little of probable havoc that can be wrecked if care is not taken . Eledua à gbè wa. Asé
Politics › Re: The Death Of OPC And The Impending Problem (yorubas Only) by Olu317(m): 8:05pm On Jan 21, 2017
aljharem:
What do you mean huh?? !!!!!!

How much have you donated to OPC ? Some of you are just kids, talk/type anyhow

Are these OPC people not humans ? Do they not have families to feed ?

So greed did not kill Tinubu with Oando deal ? Or Obasanjo with Babalakin deal

These are people that don't even care whether you live or die or kidnapped tomorrow.


Don't be a fool !!!!!

[size=18pt]OPC needs funds !!!!!QOD !!!!!!!![/size]
Every Yoruba person is a member of OPC directly or indirectly. The group truly need funds but the way its leadership handles fund is what I detest. This is the reason the group is loosing its focus. Chief Gani Adams started very well but lost it to greed. I wish people can truly learn from Jadua/Adua/Odua whom we all see as our progenitor. Despite the fact that the man didn't give birth genealogically to every citizens of Yoruba land. He led them all and protected them all selflessly. This is the reason, many use his name to swindle many Yoruba people. Emotionally, we are attached to the name and I hope the group will choose a new leader so as judiciously render her service to the Yoruba nation. The tenure should be terminal. The method of choosing should entail wide consultation. This indeed will resurrect the sleeping OPC.
Politics › Re: me by Olu317(m): 4:49pm On Jan 21, 2017
math2001:
Osibanjo will be considered, international crime.
This is why Buhari ran away to London

That why Mr Buhari ran to London because he want to make Osinbanjo, who is an illiterate to receive the blame
Did you just typed typed professor Osinbajo is an illiterate? Where did you go to secondary school? I didn't ask for your tertiary college because University degree is impossible for you!
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Olu317(m): 4:07pm On Jan 21, 2017
Boss13:
You just expanded what I said - Gentiles are people who are not Jews. The Jewish people have always felt they are the chosen ones. Gentiles specifically was used for Roman people living in Palestine.

On the other hand, you can call Africans Gentiles too and borrowing your words - rejected people, you can see how segregation perfectly play itself in the Bible. Then how ironically, Africans are practicing a religion not meant for them and quoting the Bible to justify their worship.
I only try to stuck to what we are juxtaposing knowledge on. However, as it stand in the past,present or the unforeseen future, the Bible remain the oldest book written on earth. And from it the greatest historians /researchers had used it and explore the world to the extreme. Having opined this, Africans in Africa are different people as Asia,Europeans are even if the world try to lump people together. Religion is complicated for those who sees and not understand the person of life. In Africa, even the Jews/Israelites still resides despite thousands of years inter marriage with Hamitic nationalities. Two things stand Israelites out and they are their homogeneous attitude and superiority believes of being divine human ethnic Race under one Supreme God. If you have understudy some African ethnicity, you will see these traits.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Olu317(m): 12:01pm On Jan 21, 2017
Boss13:
Jesus reveal himself to his disciples Mark 4:10-12
When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that,

"'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving,
and ever hearing but never understanding;
otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'"

Jesus came for Israel and disciples alone - Math 15:24
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Matt 10:5 - Jesus sent out the twelve apostles with these instructions: "Don't go to the Gentiles or the Samaritans

The second coming of Jesus was for his disciples. He was not talking about any future generation. In case you don't know who the gentiles are - these are people who are not Jewish and a derogatory term for roman people
which version of the Bible do you read? However, the gentiles included Romans and all outside state of Israel. Gentiles means unchosen ones/rejected people/unbelievers/pagan worshippers. All these mentioned covered all part of the world except CHILDREN OF ISRAEL .
Politics › Re: Biafrans Killing Hausa Men Photo by Olu317(m): 10:54am On Jan 21, 2017
AshawoGirl:
I don't care for this una Biafra struggle. But what I saw today I must talk. #eyewitness

In Stanbic Bank Oyigbo. In a bus. Saw some Ipob protesters. They stopped an Hausa man. Said they will search him if he has dagger. I thought that was all...

After the searching they dipped hand in his pocket took his 11thousand naira. One was David. He was shouting his name that he doesn't fear.

What kind of rubbish is this. If you are angry face who shot u not the innocent ones.

After they will only post pictures of how they shot dem...
I know you sympathise with this Hausa man but how many times have you felt bad about the killing other Nigerians?. If genuinely you felt bad about the attitude of these young men because of vengeance for their people being killed in PH or wherever . I think it is right to complain but don't blow it out of proportion because many Lagosians as well as other Nigerians do loose their money daily to robbery gangs and not judge a whole tribe because of these two men you saw who rubbed another man of his money. The first question you ought ask yourself was, why did people who were nearby not stop this molesters? If you cant get the answer, then you need under the average frustration of other Nigerians. I am original YORUBA blooded Prince genealogically.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Olu317(m): 8:31am On Jan 21, 2017
Boss13:
When many christians rely heavily on the Bible, it makes you wonder curiously. The Bible was written at a time and condition when man was not so enlightened. At a time when people thought the earth was flat and the time zones of the world were the same. At the time when people thought Heaven was above the cloud.

So when the confused President01 was making his claims and supporting it with bible verses, a similar trend carried out by confused people, I knew his prediction would not come to past. There is no rapture even the Bible says so - Mathew 16:28 I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.

Many christians are not privileged to know that some bible verses were changed to fit in the script and some gospel books were discarded because these books do not support their objectives.

People wake up, religion was created by man for control purpose. It is now outdated and no longer useful in this modern world. In fact, religion has created more disunity amongst men and it is responsible for a million death in this world
Though you are right about @ MrPresident1 's fake claim of Jesus coming on the 20th January 2017 which was practically impossible until the time of beast chaotic situation of the entire world and the whole world (all spoken language) to hear the message of Jesus and he being the Saviour of all mankind if he is accepted as personal lord and saviour. Jesus didn't heavily reveal himself to the disciples because he knew the heart of men with their unbelief and he gradually manifest himself to them. And the part you quote was been explained to them with figurative speech about those who were with him at that time but was referring to the generation of same people in the future who will be alive when return to earth. As it is known in the Bible that when he comes people will still be earth's residents. However, you erred on rapture because Jesus said himself in the Book of John 14 vs2 and 3( vs2: In my father's house are many mansions :If it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. vs3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there you may be also.
Politics › Re: The Death Of OPC And The Impending Problem (yorubas Only) by Olu317(m): 8:58pm On Jan 20, 2017
TRUE TALK
Politics › Re: Trump Solidarity Rally: Pro-Biafra Agitators, Soldiers Clash, Scores Wounded by Olu317(m): 6:02pm On Jan 20, 2017
Naija9090:
What is wrong with you yorubas for God and heaven sake? Tomorrow you will open a thread asking why Igbos hate yorubas. It's post like this that reeks of inhumanity and wickedness!
Not everyone who send messages online here pretending to be Yoruba are really Yoruba. Some are FAKE but to bring more hatred between Ibos and Yoruba. Though I have my many differences with Ibos but I won't support police killing peaceful demonstrators who only held on placards without any weapons. Naija is bleeped!
Health › Re: What You Should Know About Indigestion And How To Cure It by Olu317(m): 5:54pm On Jan 20, 2017
johncreek:
God bless you sir...
I gave my insight and am been attacked...
I have nothing to sale....
But I won't stoop low to reply their insults.
Amen!. Never mind. Just don't quit on what you have as a gift to make a difference in this life . God deposit different gift in different beings though some have more than the rest but whatever one has ought be used to make other ones smile. Keep up the good work because you have exposed me to some reasons I do have indigestion at times. Stay bless.
Christianity Etc › Re: Of Mrpresident1 And His Rapture Date by Olu317(m): 5:48pm On Jan 20, 2017
MrPresident1:
Just watch grin grin wink
Watch out for what?, Any way at least you have achieved one thing for sure.

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