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opal4real:
The Copies of Portuguese account is still in the archives of world libraries on their account when they came in contact with Bini. And it specifically stated that the Father of BINI is in the East of Bini, while the Oba Bini at that time in 14th century pointed to the direction of ILE IFE


These are your words? Do you have dementia due to alcohol intoxication that you easily forgets what you wrote previously?

I rather not waste my time with a brain dead. You stated that the Father of Benin is in the EAST of BENIN, is IFE in the EAST of BENIN? What a twerp!

OLD OYO EMPIRE WAS NORTH WEST, ONDO AXIS IS EAST OF YORUBA LAND. slowpoke. FROM THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION OF THE KING IN BINI, WHERE DOES THE DIRECTION POSIT AND RIVER NIGER? IDIOT, GO AND READ THE MAP. AFTER THIS,TELL YOUR ELDERLY ONES THAT KNOW MORE ABOUT MAP TO EXPLAIN TO YOU BETTER. HOWEVER, I WANT TO CLEARLY KNOW YOU BELONG TO THE GROUP OF ANIMALS THAT THEIR BRAIN WORK IN A RETROGRESSIVE WAY. I AM SURE YOU ARE NEW IN THE WORLD WEED SMOKING WHICH MUST BE THE REASON YOU ARE TECHNICALLY DOWN WITHOUT EXISTING THINKING FACULTY. A SMELLY PIG THAT CAN'T EVEN SPEAK HIS OWN LANGUAGE BUT INSTEAD YORUBA. I CAN'T IMAGINE THIS UNTRACEABLE PEOPLE WITH NONSENSICAL THEORIES OF KING OF THE SKY. I AM YET TO KNOW THE OGISO SKY KING' DESCENDANTS THAT HAS NO VILLAGE OF HIS OWN BUT A PERPETUAL YORUBA SLAVES TILL INFINITY. WHERE ARE THE POWERLESS OGISO DYNASTY? AFTERALL ILORIN STILL HAVE DESCENDANTS OF AFONJA BATTLING WITH THE GAMBARI FAMILY OVER THE RIGHTFUL OWNER OF THE THRONE IN ILORIN AND THEIR VOICES ARE BEING HEARD. ARE YOU AN OGISO? SEE THIS SON OF SHAME EXCHANGING BANTER WITH ME? YOU ARE DOOMED LIKE EVIL DEAD.

@Haoqi24........IRUNMOLE(HEREM-IN HEBREW) by SEPTUGENERIAN MODUPE ODUYEYE

An irunmọlẹ is a divine being, a spirit entity, who administers an aspect of creation on behalf of the Creator. In our solar system, Olodumare who is regarded as a higher class of irunmọlẹ or another being higher than irunmọlẹs has two hundred of them to his left, two hundred to his right, and four hundred and one that shuttle between Ọrun (the spiritual plane above) and Ile Aye (this planet). They all administer this solar system on behalf of Olodumare, and the four hundred and one are known to interact with humans and engage in superhuman feats.
However, there are also a set of humans known as Oriṣas that likewise accomplish superhuman feats, are very revered ancestors, and number four hundred and one. They are so similar to those four hundred and one irunmọlẹs that many regard them as same whilst others argue that they are different but fail to explain their equal numbers. An example has to do with the irunmọlẹ known as Ọranfẹ but whom the historians of Ọyọ prefer to call Ṣango. The nays of Ọyọ argue that the irunmọlẹ and the oriṣa who they identify with that name are totally distinct persons. My opinion is that such distinctions are false, illogical, the creation of some humans, and have served only to distort history.
The great flood covered the world marked the end of the third stage of creation and the beginning of the fourth. When this flood was over Olodumare personally created a woman, the first human of this fourth stage, and brought her from Ọrun to Ile Aye and gave her as wife to the irunmọlẹ popularly known as Oduduwa but also known as Oluiwa, Iwa and Ọlọfin Otete. Her name is Ẹni-bi-ẹni (or Ninibinini). Olodumare commanded them to populate Ile Aye and she bore eight sets of twins for her husband. In order to prevent incest, Olodumare ordered some irunmọlẹs to create more humans, and they created more, and more, and more. The irunmọlẹs were led by Ọbatala aka Oṣumare the irunmọlẹ of purity and light, and they worked in teams and adopted various groups of humans. For instance, Ọrunmila the irunmọlẹ of wisdom and prophet of Ifa sired children therefrom who became rulers in Ekiti and his lineage continues till date, just like Oduduwa’s. Thus, the Aku people commonly known as Ọmọ Oduduwa can be described as hybrids of irunmọlẹs and humans. Is it impossible for any of the sixteen children of Oduduwa to give birth to him? Is it impossible for any of the descendants of Ọrunmila to give birth to him?
Oluorogbo, an irunmọlẹ from Ọbatala’s team, along with some others then created without any order from Olodumare the last set of humans who are the oyinbo. These oyinbo were expelled for rejecting their makers and refusing to stop committing unnatural abominations, and they accepted to serve some rejected beings. Among these rejects included the likes of Zeus, Poseidon, etc, who took their women as wives and thus had offspring. This is well recorded in the history of the Indo-Europeans.
Now, the possibility of departed parents returning via birth as children of their offspring, a phenomenon called reincarnation, is a basic fact among various cultures all over the world. In the odu of Ifa called Ọyẹku Ọṣẹ, Ọrunmila teaches that:
Ire ni Amuniwaye fi iku ṣe
Omi ti ko ṣan siwaju, ti ko ṣan sẹhin
A a di omi ọgọdọ
Ọgọdọ omi i bajẹ, omi ẹ gbin
Omi n gbe wọn lọ rere
Omi n gbe wọn bọ rere
Olokunrun ka a re’le lo gbawo tuntun bọ wa’ye
Translation:
The creator uses death as a blessing
Water that does not flow forth, that does not flow back
Becomes stagnant
Stagnant water becomes bad, becomes impure
Water carries them away to a good place
Water brings them back in wellness
Let the invalid go home to get a new vessel (body) and come back to this world
Since reincarnation is possible, then parents who are irunmọlẹs can return via birth, and, since each of us has a unique destiny, such offspring would retain their irunmọlẹish destiny. Thus, as they come of age and fulfill their destinies, they would accomplish the same superhuman feats as when irunmọlẹs – however, since humans forget their destinies and lives as they cross from Ọrun to Ile Aye, I don’t yet know if they would also forget theirs. Thus, it is possible for the four hundred and one irunmọlẹs to live among humans as humans and they would be of the same number.
There are a set of humans who, according to the history of the Ọmọ Oduduwa, number four hundred and one and accomplish great feats. They are known as orisa. According to the odu called Iwori Odi,
There is no childbearing woman who cannot give birth to an Ifa priest
There is no childbearing woman who cannot give birth to Ọrunmila
Our father, if he gives birth to us in full, inevitably we shall in time give birth to him in turn
Our mother, if she gives birth to us in full, inevitably we shall in time give birth to her in turn
Here, Olodumare explicitly informs us that reincarnation via birth and rebirth is possible, and that irunmọlẹs can be reincarnated likewise. There was even no need for the previous paragraphs as this verse is self-explanatory. Ọrunmila is cited as an example implying that he has been born sometime in the past as an orisa and/or might be living with us now as same and/or might be born in the future as same. On this blog I have argued that the biblical Moses is the orisa
phase of Ọrunmila whose name in that age was probably Moṣebọlatan. Some others that I have tried to point out include:

Irunmọlẹ
Oṣumare/ Eṣumare/
Ọbatala/Ẹla
Ẹlẹgbara
Ogun
Ọṣọosi
Ibu Agana Eri
Aganju
Ọranfẹ/Aramfẹ
Oduduwa
Ọlọsa
Olokun
Oluorogbo
Ọbaluaye
Obarese

Orisa
Oṣumare/ Eṣumare
Eṣu Laalu
Ajaka/Ọkanbi
Ọranmiyan/Aku
Sungbọ
Daodu
Ọranfẹ/Aramfẹ
Oluiwa/Iwa
Ọsaara
Olokun
biblical Aaron
biblical Lazarus
Obalufon

O0ni:
Whoever takes these illiterate Bini king & his twatttt subjects serious is wasting away his energy.

Below are pages from a book published in 1957 by an independent researcher, an European who sourced his data in Bini from Bini people.

In the red marked paragraph, an European visited Bini in 1458 way before your last iliterate revisionist king & a whole lot of you poorly read online scholars & twatts were born.

Now read & thank me later.

I included the coverpage for you folks to get copies & enlighten your poop stained minds.

Your kings' heads were taken back to Ife, Ooni approved your kings, you kissed Ife's asssss and recognized Ife's supreriority. Your recent revisionism is just being butt hurt from the western region politics and been struggling to carve a separate identity away from Yoruba for yourself.

Olodo Kingdom that Ibadan would have ravaged

DO YOU MIND THOSE UNGRATEFUL ELEMENTS. IF NOT EKITIPARAPO THAT INCLUDED NEARLY ALL YORUBA STARTING WITH IJEBU OWORO KAABA,EGBA, EKITI, IGBOMNA, IFE, ILESHA, ILAJE, ITSEKIRI etc AGAINST IBADAN. THE UNGRATEFUL PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SEEN HELL ON EARTH.

O0ni:
Here's another attending to Bini's expansion towards Owo, Ekiti & Ondo.

See the paragraph marked in red.

Bini Italian dimwits

Even there is assumptions on the conquest which had no iota of truth but egocentric motive. I wish this EDO PEOPLE really Tasted death as YORUBA WARRIORS DID WHEN THEY FOUGHT AGAINST FULANI JIHADISTS. All these mouth running would have been halted. Even the so called claim of ASHIPA being from BINI is doubtful because Bini princes don't bear such name. They have claimed Oduduwa that knows not them. Perhaps the writing(TRIDENT) on ORANMIYAN OBELISK IS ALSO BINI LANGUAGE. LET them come and explain to us where OGISO DYNASTY ORIGINATE FROM? after all they claim they are from the sky.. What language do they speak in the sky? We know that it was less than 60 years they stopped speaking or using YORUBA as the BINI PALACE COURT LANGUAGE. I BOW for this people. Let this people be on there own joor.

O0ni:
Here's another attending to Bini's expansion towards Owo, Ekiti & Ondo.

See the paragraph marked in red.

Bini Italian dimwits

Even there is assumptions on the conquest which had no iota of truth but egocentric motive. I wish these really Tasted death as YORUBA FOUGHT AGAINST JIHADISTS. All these mouth running would have been halted. Even the so called claim of ASHIPA being from is doubtful because Bini princes don't bear such names. They have claimed Oduduwa that knows not them. Perhaps the writing on ORANMIYAN OBELISK IS ALSO BINI LANGUAGE. LET them come and explain to us where OGISO ORIGINATE FROM? after all they claim they are from the sky.. What language do they speak in the sky? We know that it was less than 60 years they stopped speaking or using YORUBA as the BINI PALACE COURT LANGUAGE. I BOW for this people. Let this people be on there own joor.

O0ni:
Baba, don't waste your energy on this twats.

It is a known fact they relied on Ife for how to run a kingdom, art and traditional religion.

The Arrow doesn't know there are 7 different ogun & the Ooni Ogun was not the same as the god of iron Ogun but someone who used the name as a congnomen - someone played the role of Sango in a movie and has forever been called Sango. Does this make him the actual Sango in the coming decades?

Very shitty brained people who are forever shitting on the work of their own son Egharevba who did a thorougj documentation of Bini history in the early to mind 20th century.

KAARE BA MI,I APPRECIATE. I HAVE SHIFTED MY ATTENTION AWAY FROM HIM. GOD BLESS YOU MY DEAR BRO.

opal4real:
Where is the East of Benin? Simple kindergarten geography would have taught you that Ife is located North West of Benin and not East. From Ife to Benin by leg does not take 3 moons(months). So what part of that story are you trying to distort? The ya'riba's has been re-writing history to suit and boost their dwindling ego. No wonder you have several version of the origin of Oduduwa the Prince from Igodomigodo but the Bini only have one and we stand by it till eternity. According to your history Ogun was once a king in yoruba land,abi nor be so una write am? Prince Ogun which we all know as Oba Ewaure 1 n'ogidigan was a warrior and we all know Ogun is associated with war and till date the Benin are war like unlike your coward brothers who cannot stand and face a battle even in their homestead.

...OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE NOT LETTERED. BINI FALL WITHIN THE GEOGRAPHICAL EASTERN PART OF YORUBA LAND. HENCE I EXCOMMUNICATE YOU! ...GO AND READ O.B OSADOLOR'S BOOK ON BINI HISTORY. I KNOW YOU ARE AN UNDERGRADUATE AND BECAUSE OF THIS, I WILL ADVISE YOU TO GO TO SCHOOL AND LEARN MORE ABOUT YOUR HISTORY AND MAP. IT IS A SHAME I AM EVEN EXCHANGING MESSAGES WITH A YOUNG MAN THAT CANNOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MOOD AND DOOM.....

EdoNation:
[[s]quote author=Olu317 post=53680084]NO WONDER OBA BINI CORRECTED YOU PEOPLE THAT ORANMIYAN WAS THE FIRST OBA BINI. THIS CLEARLY SHOWED THAT YORUBA COLONISED BINI. TELL US THOSE OF YORUBA STOCK THAT BEARS EDO NAMES BUT IT IS THE OTHER WAY ROUND, BINI, EDOS BEAR YORUBA NAMES. EVEN YOU MAY EVEN BE ONE OF THEM... LAUGHING SERIOUSLY AT YOU.... YOU PEOPLE WILL SUFFOCATE YOURSELVES WITH GRANDEUR LIES. I AM A PROUD YORUBA MAN TO THE CORE.[/s]




DID THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN NOT ALSO SAY ODUDUWA WAS FROM BENIN IN THE MIDST OF UR SMALL BOY OONI OF IFE.

JUST LOOK AT THIS CONFUSED TIN....WAT USELESS YORUBA NAMES HAHAHA IT IS YORUBAS WHO BEAR EDO NAMES ...NOW EVEN DAVIDO TOO NAMED HIS DAUGHTER IMADE

GO N HIDE UR FACE......... U LOOK SO LAME



ANOTHER TRASH !!!!

.....WHERE DID OBA BINI SAY SUCH THAT ODUDUWA CAME FROM OGODOMIGODO or whatever YOU CALL THAT VILLAGE?I NEED NOT ENGAGE LIAR LIKE YOU. I HAD THOUGHT YOU HAVE SOMETHING TANGIBLE TO WRITE BUT HERE YOU ARE DISTORTING HISTORY. OONI IS A WISE MAN AND WILL NEVER ENGAGE IN SUCH UNFOUNDED THEORIES. I'M MADE — I MADE — IMADE . Come up with someone with Ten popular people with EDO NAMES else park well and lemme see the FRONT.

EdoNation:
[[s]quote author=Olu317 post=53663898]Mr. Don't distort history please. I am Yoruba and not from IJEBU but love knowing Yoruba historical settlement wherever Ori direct their footsteps. The people who are traditionally inclined to the norm and practices of ancient Yoruba will definitely not agree with you nor present AWUJALE. If AWUJALE could single-handedly stop the use of IRUKERE from covering his mouth, so that people naturally won't see his face and mouth as been done in ancient Yoruba land because of his purported modernization then he could easily try to separate part of IJEBU from being UNDER ILE IFE suzerainty , yet IJEBUs men fought and died alongside every other Yoruba groups just to PREVENT IBADAN that had no proper nor recognised monarchial system to bully other kingdoms and subdued them. In fact, I thank God for that war to had taken place because, the AWUJALE,could properly had used it as an escape root to destroy Yoruba history as false. It is so disheartening for me to see us in disarray of this manner. ILE IFE owns OSUGBO,OGBONI,IFA etc that all people who left the place having these cults wherever the ancient YORUBA settled down. The word “IJEBU" , whose language is it derived from?. Though, there is iota of truth that Yoruba migrated to this part of West Africa but they were all of ONE STOCK. However, if AWUJALE, had posited that YORUBA was not the NAME we were called before, then, it would have made sense.


BINI PEOPLE trying to distort history With their NONSENSICAL CLAIM with no TRUTH in it.

God bless you on your effort to do more finding on YORUBA history....[/s]


BENIN MATTER NORGO KILL U OZOUR!!

INFERIORITY COMPLEX

NO WONDER OBA BINI CORRECTED YOU PEOPLE THAT ORANMIYAN WAS THE FIRST OBA BINI. THIS CLEARLY SHOWED THAT YORUBA COLONISED BINI. TELL US THOSE OF YORUBA STOCK THAT BEARS EDO NAMES BUT IT IS THE OTHER WAY ROUND, BINI, EDOS BEAR YORUBA NAMES. EVEN YOU MAY EVEN BE ONE OF THEM... LAUGHING SERIOUSLY AT YOU.... YOU PEOPLE WILL SUFFOCATE YOURSELVES WITH GRANDEUR LIES. I AM A PROUD YORUBA MAN TO THE CORE.

opal4real:
Benin's do not worship Obatala. Ogun and Olokun are Benin gods. Oba Ewuare 1 was known as Prince Ogun before he was crowned and he was a great warrior. It will help you a lot if you do a proper research on Ife, how could Ife be 100 Yrs old before benin and Oduduwa sent one of his son's (Oromiyan) to Benin? SMH!!!
The Benin's will never claim Yoruba cos the word Yoruba is derogatory. Do a proper research on how the word Ya'riba came into existence.
The very day Awolowo disrespected Oba Akenzua that was the day he signed his death warrant and later ended up committing suicide. The Benin's wanted to unite with the yoruba's but you guys destroyed that pact by insisting on speaking yoruba in western region council of Oba's. Oba of Benin walked out and since then the western region ended up in one crises or the other. The thief and tribalistic awolowo built cocoa house at Ibadan when the major producers of cocoa were Edo and former Ondo axis. He built T.V stations with our timber and palm oil from delta and you think the benin's will ever forgive you guys?

Yoruba's will remain our son and you better deal with it.

I can see another EDO chap looking for attention as well. So OGUN has become your king EWUARE? You are very new in the world of history study. I guess you should then go IRE-EKITI and tell them to shift the abode of OGUN-ONIRE shrine to EDO state....My Question is, where do YORUBA relocate OGUNShrine to in EDO or BINI?,Secondly, how big was BINI EMPIRE in the purported lies being spread around? The Copies of Portuguese account is still in the archives of world libraries on their account when they came in contact with Bini. And it specifically stated that the Father of BINI is in the East of Bini, while the Oba Bini at that time in 14th century pointed to the direction of ILE IFE. In fact, it will b a great thing for Bini to stay on her own. After all, Netherlands pulled out of Germany and both are doing well today despite Germany being the largest economy in the whole of Europe. Truth is bitter but swallow it.

LoveJesus87:
Must be in hell by now in unimaginable zorrow my brothers and sisters please repent for hell is real oh. Jesus is the only escape route

...IS THIS THE WAY TO WIN SOULS FOR CHRIST THE KING? YOU THINK YOU CAN WIN A SOUL WHEN YOU'VE HATRED ALREADY OCCUPIED YOUR HEART TO SUCH AN EXTEND TO HAD CONCLUSIVELY JUDGED A MAN YOU KNOW NOT. THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YORUBA CHRISTIANS AND YOU LIARS..

Vorpal:
I think on most of the questions you asked specially concerning cult practises and all that, indigenes who are well rounded in those practises are in best position to answer those questions.

Same goes for the Eredo. There are other things am yet to get answers to but in due time I will find out.

But until facts prove otherwise, I maintain the position of the Awujale.
But going by the Ijebu history,it would mean the Ijebus must have brought those cult to their present place before Ife and could have influence them.

Mr. Don't distort history please. I am Yoruba and not from IJEBU but love knowing Yoruba historical settlement wherever Ori direct their footsteps. The people who are traditionally inclined to the norm and practices of ancient Yoruba will definitely not agree with you nor present AWUJALE. If AWUJALE could single-handedly stop the use of IRUKERE from covering his mouth, so that people naturally won't see his face and mouth as been done in ancient Yoruba land because of his purported modernization then he could easily try to separate part of IJEBU from being UNDER ILE IFE suzerainty , yet IJEBUs men fought and died alongside every other Yoruba groups just to PREVENT IBADAN that had no proper nor recognised monarchial system to bully other kingdoms and subdued them. In fact, I thank God for that war to had taken place because, the AWUJALE,could properly had used it as an escape root to destroy Yoruba history as false. It is so disheartening for me to see us in disarray of this manner. ILE IFE owns OSUGBO,OGBONI,IFA etc that all people who left the place having these cults wherever the ancient YORUBA settled down. The word “IJEBU" , whose language is it derived from?. Though, there is iota of truth that Yoruba migrated to this part of West Africa but they were all of ONE STOCK. However, if AWUJALE, had posited that YORUBA was not the NAME we were called before, then, it would have made sense.


From my patrilineal lineage, I AM PRINCE, IN FACT, MY GREAT GRAND FATHER, a Prince that became a King FOUGHT AGAINST IBADAN and I am also a PRINCE FROM MY MATRILINEAL LINEAGE. This is my own reason I can go extra mile to do more research just to FINDING out ancient YORUBA HISTORY even beyond NIGERIA. Kindly do research more on the truth rather than imagination or assumption. And don't let us behave like BINI PEOPLE trying to distort history With their NONSENSICAL CLAIM with no TRUTH in it.

God bless you on your effort to do more finding on YORUBA history....

dainformant:
Photos of a Nigerian Islamic scholar identified as Sheihk Suleiman Shagamu Kumo, have been trending online following his assassination by unknown gunmen. According to multiple online reports, the cleric was a prominent man among the Muslims before his untimely demise. May his soul rest in peace.

Source; http://www.nationalhelm.net/2017/02/nigerian-islamic-scholar-gruesomely.html

RIP

Zico5:
North is still far behind

Unbelievable

Haoqi24:
All I see here is manipulation of our Yoruba heritage to fit in to your slave masters doctrine.

Well the Orisha is a primodial force that was there after Eledumare, we can say his direct manifestation. And you thinking they first existed has men is pure fallacy.

The reasons for personification is so the human mind can understand.

And from all your talk I can deduce you no be aborisha.

"Prayers and sacrifices are made to Orishas according to their kind. Obatala accept snail and white chalk. Ogun accept dog, blood and cola with cold water. Eleye accepts kidney and fresh meat. What is the sacrifice which Eledumare accept?

Every Ebo are made through Eshu. Ifa says Eshu ni gba ebo be ni ko mo IFA da. Eshu takes 5% of every Ebo and gives the rest to Orisha or eleye that owns it. There is no particular one sets for Eledumare. So tell us how every prayers and sacrifice ends with Eledumare when he does not partake in receiving any Ebo from anybody.

God is not just one in Yoruba religion. The Irunmole which Eledumare is one and part of are first and primodial forces. These Irunmoles are Gods. A 401 Gods is not monotheism because they are more than one. 401 Gods equals polytheism.

Apart from the Irunmoles, there are Egungun, Oro, Ebora, Ori and other divinites in their infinite numbers. Every natural entities have it Ori. They are just there in their countless number and are all Gods. I really dont understand how infinite number of Gods made up to what you call monotheism.

Also, Deity and God is very much the samething. There is no clear cut difference. Eledumare is Olorun and Olorun is not Orisha. We only have One Olorun and 200 Orisha. However, we need to note that Olorun is one of the Irunmole. The Irunmoles are Gods which is polytheism.

The 401 are the primodial forces. Eledumare is one of them. And they are all deity/god because some form of worship are attributed to them. This makes the case of Irunmole differ from Jehovah or Allah. ELEDUMARE care less about worship and do not ask for one unlike Jehovah/Allah. Eledumare do not accept sacrifice or have any form of sacrifice set for him unlike Jehovah/Allah. The other Irunmole, to the Ebora, to Ori are been worshipped unlike 24 elders and queen of heavens and jinns.

In monotheism, a god is belief and worshipped only. Orisha system encourage belief in many numbers of Gods and worshipping of them. Onifa or any babalawo has Ojubo Eshu, Ogun, Olokun and lot others in his "office". This is a symbol of polythesim and nothing more"

"Monotheism is the belief in a single all-powerful god, as opposed to religions that believe in multiple gods.

Orisha religion system does not recognise a single all-powerful god but 401 Irunmales who govern the earth and the ancestors realm. Eledumare is one and part of the Irunmoles. Despite the fact the he owns all the Ashe (Energy), his subordinates in 400 Irunmoles are also Gods that are been worshipped in Yoruba religion system.

Ogun lakaye Osinmole is the chief of Irunmoles. Ogun is the deity of strength, war and Iron/metalic elements. Lakaye means the one whose influcence spread around the world (both physical and spiritual realm) while Osinmole from collison of Osin awon Imole meaning the one Imole worship and sees as head.

Allah could made jinns, Jehovah could form trinity and elders numbering 24 in the councils of heaven where queens of heaven, gods (Psalm 82:1) and sons of God congregate but the fact you failed to see is that no muslim worship Jinn and also no christian worship any of the elders, angels or queen of heaven. No one pray to the angels or gods. No one bow in prayer for Jinns. The muslim world admits there is no other god except Allah just like christians no other God is worthy of worship except Jehovah. Allah and Jehovah are single all powerful God to muslim and christian respectively. This makes Islam and Christianity a monotheistic religion.

Yoruba religion system is different entirely in the cases of Abrahamic religion (Christianity and Islam). The 400 Irunmoles and Orishas are been worshipped. Ones Ori is a deity which have a dedicated shrine/altar, prayed to and scarifices made to appeals to it. Egungun (dead living ancestors) are been worshipped in a dedicated shrine among families. This does not end with worshipping but a belief that these deity are closer to one and are powerful. The case of a single all-powerful God is ruled out here. This is polytheism.

On the other round, Eledumare is not been worship in Yoruba religion system. Eledumare does not have a dedicated shrine, ordain a special prayer or ask anyone for sacrifice. He does not seek for our faith. He only set everything in motion and interfare not in the system of things. This is classical deism.

Yoruba religion system could have been tagged Henotheism but there is no record that Eledumare been worshipped directly.

Now you need to understand what polytheism really is. Polytheism is the worship of or belief in multiple deities/gods usually assembled into a pantheon of gods and goddesses, along with their own rituals. In most aspect, the gods and goddesses are representations of forces of nature or ancestral principle, and can be viewed either as autonomous or emanating part of a creator God.

All the Orishas are representation of forces of the nature and are been worshipped as part and constellation of Eleduamre. This is polytheism not only in the number of God but belief in the existence of a specific pantheon of distinct deities called Orisha or Imole.

Yoruba religion system is far from been monotheism"

Eledumare doesn't have any feelings attributed to him unlike the God of the Israelites that gets jealous, angry, turns back on his words etc... If a parallel is to be established with Yoruba cosmology, Yahweh is way lesser than Eledumare and is in parallel with the other 400 Irunmole

You keep dodging the germane part. I mentioned 114 deities of Egypt and 200+1 of Yoruba and not 400+1. Firstly, accept it that Yoruba did lived in Egypt but weren't on the same level of God worshipping with the Egyptians . Where do the other 200 umole/ Imole came from in Yoruba land? These 200+1 are the irunmoles being appeased daily, round the year minus one day at ILE IFE in Yoruba land . However,being an Aborisha or not has no big attachment to it. Either one like it or not, a Yoruba born child is directly or indirectly related to one form of worship of Orisha in his or her great grand parents backyard . Ori bi bo wasn't what I laid emphasis on but a form of traditional needed materials in Sacrifice. If to Bo ri, it is very cheap to do because the things you or I need involves kola that's has less than a particular line on it. Let me stop right there on that. I mentioned that ancient Yoruba borrowed the masquerade regalia kind of from NUPE. This has nothing to do with the potency of their Conjuring abilities and faith adduced to non existent things to manifest. The ancient Yoruba had faith, though, certain things were used to bring believe to manifestation but it was faith. Take for instance, if someone who doesn't believe in Yoruba tradition is be told say some incantation, it won't work if such individuals doesn't focus his or her mind and channel all the forces of energy in him or her. It is as simple as this. Having said this, if you have heard when an IFA PRIEST begins his chants on praising Ela, You will understand the personified Eledumare in YAHWEH/EL. If you have contrary views, kindly tell it to us and give a description of Eledumare that's greater than YAHWEH/EL . Others and I am here to learn.

Nostradamus:
eseun pupo, edakun mo ni awon ibeere kan lori amudo yen ni. 1.se ama lo oruka irin yen mo awon eroja toku yen ni? 2.kini nje amun?

Haa“Omoluabi". A fi suuru

EdoNation:
Keep on decieving yourself trying to give meanings to words that are clearly foriegn to ur tribe


RUBBISH!!!

OH K OOOO... EDO KINGDOM ,SAY GOODBYE TO YORUBA LAND

Probz:
I see you think cursing in Yoruba makes you look like a big boy. Quit with this yeye exclamations. Abi na common forum or war ground? Who vex this pikin?

IRRESPECTIVE OF HIS OPINION NEED NOT DEGENERATE TO THIS LEVEL. LET US FOLLOW THE CORE “OMOLUABI", IDEOLOGY THAT'S EMBEDDED IN US. I APPEAL TO YOU TO SHEATHE YOUR SWORD ON YOUR BROTHER WHOM YOU QUOTED LAST AND IF HE ISN'T YORUBA, LET HIM BE. I AM A PROUD YORUBA MAN AND BELIEVE IN PEACE WITH YORUBA FAMILY MEMBERS FIRST BEFORE ANY OTHER GROUP.

ODVanguard:
Any Yoruba subgroup that denies or denounces being a part of the race was most likely never Yoruba to begin with, because the common denominator for all Yorubas is the intrinsic inability to loose the consciousness that ties and binds us as a people.

It's the same reason why till today Yoruba descendants all over the world, be it in Brazil, Benin, Togo, Ivory Coast, e.t.c still retain that Yoruba consciousness no matter what (even after several centuries of cross-breeding and race-mixing), are ever proud of their roots and culture, do everything to preserve it, and even flaunt it with it gusto wherever they may find themselves -- I mean really, who wouldn't be proud to be associated with such a renowned race of kings, empires, and achievers?

Therefore any 'Yoruba' person that comes forward to deny being one of us was probably never one of us to start with -- perhaps such a person belongs to an entirely different ethnicity or group that was assimilated into the wider Yoruba race/nation in a distant (or not so distant) past.

That's mighty fine as far as I am concerned because we Yorubas are not so desperate to 'claim' other peoples or form attache by force, usually it's the other way round (like some people I know who are fraudulently trying desperately to super-impose themselves into our rich history)

Kudos to you.

[quote author=EdoNation post=53648773][[s]quote author=Olu317 post=53648617].. YOU BETTER GO TO ONE DAMN DARK CORNER AND TELL YOURSELF THE TRUTH.... NO WONDER, THE OBA BINI QUICKLY TOLD THE WORLD THAT THE WORD OBA IS FROM YORUBA LAND AND THE FIRST OBA WAS ORANMIYAN.. I AM STILL WAITING FOR YOU PEOPLE TO CLAIM ORUNMIELA, SHANGO, OBATALA, OGUN EVEN MAJEK FASHEK AS FROM OGODDOMIGO.....VERY FUNNY ELEMENTS AMONG EDO PEOPLE. ANYWAY, BINI INDIGENES THAT WORSHIP IFA AND OGUN IN THEIR DIFFERENT SHRINE WILL NEVER SUBSCRIBE TO YOUR UNREALISTIC IDEOLOGY. AND IF BINI PEEPS NOW DECIDE TO FOLLOW THIS SAME PATH, IN FACT IT WILL BE GOOD FOR US YORUBA PEOPLE TO LIVE IN PEACE AND NOT IN CONFLICT WITH A KINGDOM THAT BEGAN HUNDREDS OF YEARS AFTER GREAT ILE IFE HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED ...THE HOME OF YORUBA ANCESTORS....[/s]



TRASH!!!

YOU FORGOT THE PART WHERE OBA EWAURE THE GREAT ALSO SAID ODUDUWA WAS FROM BENIN


HAHAHA TYPICAL YORUBA MALE...... I AM OT SUPRISED
[/quote A PROUD ONE FOR THAT MATTER. THESE NAMES EWEKA,OLUA,OGUOLA OF OLD OBA BINI etc are all IN WHOSE LANGUAGE?CONTINUE TO LIE TO YOURSELF.

EdoNation:
THE EARLIER THE BETTER FOR U YORUBAS TO PAY HOMAGE TO UR SOURCE AND THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN AS THE SUPREME HEAD OF THAT SOURCE !!

.. YOU BETTER GO TO ONE DAMN DARK CORNER AND TELL YOURSELF THE TRUTH.... NO WONDER, THE OBA BINI QUICKLY TOLD THE WORLD THAT THE WORD OBA IS FROM YORUBA LAND AND THE FIRST OBA WAS ORANMIYAN.. I AM STILL WAITING FOR YOU PEOPLE TO CLAIM ORUNMIELA, SHANGO, OBATALA, OGUN EVEN MAJEK FASHEK AS FROM OGODDOMIGO.....VERY FUNNY ELEMENTS AMONG EDO PEOPLE. ANYWAY, BINI INDIGENES THAT WORSHIP IFA AND OGUN IN THEIR DIFFERENT SHRINE WILL NEVER SUBSCRIBE TO YOUR UNREALISTIC IDEOLOGY. AND IF BINI PEEPS NOW DECIDE TO FOLLOW THIS SAME PATH, IN FACT IT WILL BE GOOD FOR US YORUBA PEOPLE TO LIVE IN PEACE AND NOT IN CONFLICT WITH A KINGDOM THAT BEGAN HUNDREDS OF YEARS AFTER GREAT ILE IFE HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED ...THE HOME OF YORUBA ANCESTORS....

darfay:
what the Bleep is "my part of Nigeria" if it was Igbos that made such a reckless statement your fellow oduan would have come for his head. I might be an Isoko guy but would naturally take the side of other Nigerians even a fulani. better stop displaying your tribalism internationally

You are quite funny. If you are ISOKO as you claim good for you and it doesnt change the reality. Even Somali Kenyans will hit you hard if you trespass on his right. So I am just a blooded Yoruba man who come from the part that TALK AND DO. and if you take side with FULANI, I wonder how you will defeat a society that well grounded in Warfare. Have you forgotten that YORUBA SOLDIERS LIBERATED YOUR PART DURING CIVIL?,seat up and watch as the things UNRAVEL. FURTHERMORE I AM PROUD OF MY ETHNICITY, MY TRADITION AND MYSELF. I LOVE IT AND I LIVE IT. ANY COUNTRY AN ISRAELI NATURALIZED DOESN'T TAKE AWAY HIS OR HER IDENTITY BECAUSE HE OR SHE SEES HIMSELF OR HERSELF FIRST AS AN ISRAELI/JEW. SO DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL AND IF YOU DO,THEN AT YOUR OWN PERIL. LASTLY I AM YORUBA BEFORE NIGERIAN...LIVE WITH IT.

O0ni:
Uncle, some of us are actual Historians who have read quite extensively and are involved in traditional cultural and religious circles to get information. Bini was struggling in the Eastern flank of Yoruba land. Did Bini conquer any of her felow edoid group in any known battle is the question?



In your heart of hearts, you think Bini would have bested the occupants of Eko at that point? You seriously think Bini that is far away and requires sailing through the seas can best the people who are familiar with the lands and its interiors and can draw support from Ijebu, Egba and Ibadan? Uncle, there were skirmishes but only on the pepper farm, did it spread beyond, not said in any record of the history. This connotes that, Bini itself was wise enough not to stretch its own with encoraching beyond where it got on a platter.



Oyo empire was over run, Ibadan stopped and crushed the Jihadists up to Offa for life - read, please.

The 'un-homogeneity' of Yoruba being bandied around makes no sense. It is common knowledge that Yoruba were one with Ife as a rallying point. The intra-tribal fights did not start until Owu wanted to disrupt the system then the system collapsed when Oyo collapsed - the fight was not for lack of homogeneity but rather, for balance of power. Oyo's yolk was thrown off, everyone inhaled fresh air of independence and wanted to give their lives to prevent any other power rising to take away their freedom - Ibadan in this case.

The theory of lack of homogeneity is a very ignorant one bandied around mostly by Northerners to tear into the Yoruba fabric.



Loool. Anyone who reads this would think Bini was a serious army . A ragtag group that could not even expand its hegemony by conquering other edoid groups.

Make things up to be outraged about? No fam, we are having a harmless banter that I am open minded to as I want to learn something fresh & new, something to collapse all the theories Yoruba history has been built on over the years. Something beyond the conjectures and coinages from Bini camp.

WHO REALLY NEED EDOID GROUP PEOPLE IN YORUBA LAND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO RECOGNISE THEIR SOURCE OF ORIGIN AND OONI AS THE CHIEF CUSTODIAN OF YORUBA LAND AT HOME OR DIASPORA? THEN TO THY TENT O YORUBA!

Afam4eva:
I'm talking based on my own experience. I know Yoruba people always think Ondo people to be the stubborn ones for whatever reason but i have mingled with Yorubas from all over and Ondo people seem more liberal to me.

YOU ARE VERY VERY WRONG. ONDO PEOPLE ARE THE MOST CONSERVATIVE AMONGST THE YORUBA EVEN WHEN THEY ENGAGE OTHER GROUPS/ETHNICITY OR TRIBES IDEOLOGICALLY BUT TEND TO HOLD TO YORUBA TRADITION MORE. THIS IS THE GRANDEUR MISTAKES YOU PEOPLE MAKE . THIS IS THE REASON THEY DO MARRY OTHER TRIBES AS ADDITIONAL WIVES(SHIIINA TO STUPOR). TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. THEY ARE LIKE EVERY OTHER YORUBAS WHO TALK AND DO AND ALSO WITH FLAWS LIKE EVERY OTHER YORUBAS.

Haoqi24:
Please oh, kilo se awon Orisha?

An Orisha (spelled Òrìṣa) is an entity that possesses the capability of reflecting some of the manifestations of Olodumare. Yoruba Orishas (commonly translated "unique/special/selected heads" are often described as intermediaries between humankind and the supernatural. The term is also translated as "Deities" or "Divinities" or "Gods".[8]

Orisha(s) are revered for having control over specific elements by nature, thus being better referred to as the divinities or Imole. Even so, there are those of their number that are more akin to ancient heroes and/or sages.[3] These are best addressed as Dema Deities. Even though the term Orisha is often used to describe both classes of divine entities, it is properly reserved for the former one

Are you leaving them out of the picture...

As Written by FOLYKAZE

How is a spiritual system that recognise 401 Irunmoles a monotheistic religion?

How do you translate the word Orisha? Is Orisha a god to you? We have billions of Orisha (god) out there and you still call Ifa a monotheistic religion?

Ifa is polythiestic. It is a divination system created by Orunmila. Orunmila is an Orisha (God of wisdom). He is the Omniscient part of Eledumare. Eledumare does not even interfare in the affair of things among we humans. He set everything in motion and doesnt look forward for our prayers or sacrifce. So we can call Orisha religion system Deism.

It doesnt matter what the western world tag us. Been polytheistic or deistic is not a bad attribution. Eledumare is Olorun and as well one of 400 Irunmole. In Yoruba religion belief, we have 401 Irunmole. That is polytheistic considering the number of Imole (Divine ones) are more than one.

All Onifa worship all the Orishas esp Eshu, Ogun, Yemoja, Sango, Obatala and Appeal through scarifices to Eleye. This is polythism and far different from monotheism.

Monotheism is the belief in a single all-powerful god, as opposed to religions that believe in multiple gods.

Orisha religion system does not recognise a single all-powerful god but 401 Irunmales who govern the earth and the ancestors realm. Eledumare is one and part of the Irunmoles. Despite the fact the he owns all the Ashe (Energy), his subordinates in 400 Irunmoles are also Gods that are been worshipped in Yoruba religion system.

Ogun lakaye Osinmole is the chief of Irunmoles. Ogun is the deity of strength, war and Iron/metalic elements. Lakaye means the one whose influcence spread around the world (both physical and spiritual realm) while Osinmole from collison of Osin awon Imole meaning the one Imole worship and sees as head.

Allah could made jinns, Jehovah could form trinity and elders numbering 24 in the councils of heaven where queens of heaven, gods (Psalm 82:1) and sons of God congregate but the fact you failed to see is that no muslim worship Jinn and also no christian worship any of the elders, angels or queen of heaven. No one pray to the angels or gods. No one bow in prayer for Jinns. The muslim world admits there is no other god except Allah just like christians no other God is worthy of worship except Jehovah. Allah and Jehovah are single all powerful God to muslim and christian respectively. This makes Islam and Christianity a monotheistic religion.

Yoruba religion system is different entirely in the cases of Abrahamic religion (Christianity and Islam). The 400 Irunmoles and Orishas are been worshipped. Ones Ori is a deity which have a dedicated shrine/altar, prayed to and scarifices made to appeals to it. Egungun (dead living ancestors) are been worshipped in a dedicated shrine among families. This does not end with worshipping but a belief that these deity are closer to one and are powerful. The case of a single all-powerful God is ruled out here. This is polytheism.

On the other round, Eledumare is not been worship in Yoruba religion system. Eledumare does not have a dedicated shrine, ordain a special prayer or ask anyone for sacrifice. He does not seek for our faith. He only set everything in motion and interfare not in the system of things. This is classical deism.

Yoruba religion system could have been tagged Henotheism but there is no record that Eledumare been worshipped directly.

Now you need to understand what polytheism really is. Polytheism is the worship of or belief in multiple deities/gods usually assembled into a pantheon of gods and goddesses, along with their own rituals. In most aspect, the gods and goddesses are representations of forces of nature or ancestral principle, and can be viewed either as autonomous or emanating part of a creator God.

All the Orishas are representation of forces of the nature and are been worshipped as part and constellation of Eleduamre. This is polytheism not only in the number of God but belief in the existence of a specific pantheon of distinct deities called Orisha or Imole.

Yoruba religion system is far from been monotheism

“ori/èri) MONOTHEISM IS HAVING KNOWLEDGE AND WORSHIP OF ONE GOD. this is the core part in Yoruba religion as it concerns the greatness and destiny bestowed upon the“being" created by almighty God. It is the paramount difference with Egyptians. The èri-sha do have reasons to be cleansed because of the complexity of the wickedness of spiritual world and the goodness of the spiritual world which can either mar or make one in a lifetime . Yoruba men and women of ancient times knew about the TI IBI TI IRE LO JO NRIN... IF you have some knowledge on why people SE—IFA/IGBOODU,
You will appreciate the difference no matter what you think. The Yoruba have a very deep knowledge of God and didn't at any time forget it even if Yoruba was corrupted with adoption of other ideologies. Yet they place almighty God ahead as ERI-SA OKE. Everything done on Earth by the IFA PRIEST solely lies IF THE ERI-SA OKE ACCEPT THE REQUEST/prayer of the person who seek to know his PURPOSE on EARTH (AKOSE—JAYE). You can see from my information that all the defied as deities are POWERLESS WITHOUT THE SANCTION OF YORUBA'S ELEDUMARE. This make YORUBA GOD WHOSE
DESCRIPTION FIT IN AS HAVING HUMAN IMAGE,ATTRIBUTES, BUT MORE ELDERLY WITH GRAY HAIRS AND ANCIENT OF DAYS GOD WHO CAN'T DIE and also likened to the God of Israel. This make YORUBA MONOTHEISM TRUE because No IFA PRIEST conclusively tell You the UMOLES/IMOLES will GRANT a EASY PASSAGE FOR ONES VICTORY ON EARTH FOR “ERI—EDA" That the elders will say “ERI/ORI ENI A JI BO, A JI KE, A JI PÈ ........ So, irrespective of the work of the 200+1 Deities of Yoruba been worshipped in the past and today,ELEDUA/ELEDUMARE determine WHO DIES TODAY, TOMORROW
OR ANYTIME or being BLESS at different time as he ordain it because YORUBA BELIEVE that Nothing happens in the PHYSICAL without the SPIRITUAL WORLD TO HAVE SEALED IT. ERI/ORI is even what the CHRISTIANS BELIEVE MORE IN WHEN SEEKING THE
FACE OF GOD because IT IS ALL THAT MATTERS TO THEM. WHY IS THIS HAVING CONNECTION WITH YORUBA TRADITION AS CONCERN ONE'S PURPOSE ON EARTH? There is more than that meet the eyes. AWA Yoruba are too spiritually deep so much that thy even have knowledge and the existence and practices of the two forces of SPIRITUALISM; WHITE INCLINED SPIRITUALISM AND DARK INCLINED SPIRITUALISM. This testify to the Knowledge of the advancement of Yoruba knowing the difference between the evil forces and Godly forces. Let me emphasis here that the cardinal Forces in which you
attributed to OGUN wasn't his own but to almighty Yoruba God. Have you forgotten that he was a man with blood in his vein and Mortal?, Do you not know all of these people defied are mode of communication with God even ogun? Do you not know he was a great warrior on Earth? People defied him and the rest because nobody knew how he and the rest communicated with God and the ancient Yoruba people didn't want to loose that connection so as to always have victories in all their battles, Have you not seen it in the BIBLE WHEN MEN, PROPHETS USE other prophet to connect to God?. And so people knew that
through him the almighty God of Yoruba who never lost a battle will be connected through him. Have you thought why OONI do go to OGUN's shrine to pay homage and pray (KO ÈSÈ). This to show the important role OGUN play in Yoruba land. WHY DOES OGUN'S SHRINE PREFER DARK DOG? BUT when you want to appease your ELEDA, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO USE WHITES stuffs.etc . So, Yoruba strongly knows the purpose of seeking what behold them as ANCIENT ISRAELI DOES. HAVE YOU HEARD ANY KING AS MIGHTY IN BATTLE TO COMPARE HIMSELF WITH GOD IN YORUBA HISTORY? NONE,
I REPEAT, NONE! Yoruba had always spread their hands and looked up to the sky and cry when calamity befell them either in group or individually. If EGYPT'S might and glory can only boast of 114 deities. How then do you think Yoruba HAVE UMOLES/IMOLES much more than Egypt?,YORUBA RELIGION IS SUPERIOR TO THAT OF EGYPT BECAUSE GOD WHO IS KNOWN AS OMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENT, AND OMNIPRESENT whom can't be CONFINED TO ONE SPOT AS GOD OF YORUBA. Even masquerade wasn't part of religion in ancient Yorubas but borrowed and adopted from NUPE/NOK culture though,so as
to make Yoruba own already established knowledge on afterlife had a spiritual doctrine and did make it look more informative when displaying the perception of the DEAD Ancestors.

babyfaceafrica:
are you high or just plain naive?.. Which dialect they do not understand?..u beta go and face ur business ,instead of spewing trash...

DON'T MIND THEM? THEY HAVE NOT EVEN FINISH REORIENTATING THEIR HUMAN FLESH EATING BROTHERS AND SISTERS. YET IT SUITS THEM TO COME ONLINE AND SPEW OUT ROTTEN WORDS. ANYWAYS, YORUBA HAVE A WAY OF WHINING THEIR LADIES'S BRAINS ...

BornStunner1:
King Ado a benin Prince!!!



JUST LOOK AT THE RUBBISH THIS ONE IS TYPING!

WHAT USELESS REPUBLIC?

YOU PPL WILL ALWAYS BE REGARDED AS LESS BY WE THE EDOS AND OTHER TRIBES!!

THE ONLY DESTINY U YORUBA HAVE IS TO DENOUCE BENIN CULTURE TAUGHT TO U BY PRINCE EKELEREHAN IZODUWA!!

AND ALL THE VASSAL STATES CREATED IN EKITI & ONDO BY THE BENIN EMPIRE IS RETURNED BACK TO THE EMPIRE!!!

YORUBA NATION IS UNSTOPPABLE! KEEP WAILING IN IDLENESS. ODUA REPUBLIC LOADING......

Haoqi24:
Have you searched the Yoruba-Kemet relationship and not seen parallels?

What I am trying to make you understand is the ancient people all have similar ways to reaching the Almighty God. The reason you do not see the Egyptians worship the Almighty is simply because the Almighty can't be perceived or understood so they use intermediaries to reach the Almighty, same thing goes on in the Yoruba land where Eledumare has no shrine. The Egyptians knew they can't contain the Almighty and use his manifestations to reach to the Almighty.

The aspect of Faith you spoke about yh, that's foriegn ti the Yoruba people because they do not believe, they aren't "onigbagbo" they know Eledumare is, it's more right to say what day do according to an ifa priest I listened to is "Igbokanle"

The oldest record on circumcision is credited to the Ancient Egyptains. Wiki can help you on that.

As of the record of twin birth please go and research on the original scripts the Torah stole from. I'll advice you to go and read "did moses exit by Archaya S"

She did justice with that research.

The Yoruba and Egyptians or Kemet as they are called never at any time have spiritual similarities. Below are the differences between Yoruba and Egypt
1. The Egyptians do use Ram to symbolise their gods pictorial..... Yoruba don't symbolise their God with any carved image of sort
2. The name of their gods are many and Netjer is seen as supreme god yet he manifest in different ways e. g Anpu, Aset... Ancient Yoruba God is unchangeable and doesn't have other forms
3.The Egyptians Supreme god is called Amun Ra that is been personified as Sun god.... Yoruba don't have sun god.......Yoruba don't have sun god but almighty God(Olorun/Elerun)the owner of heaven and Earth
4. Osiris is the god of afterlife,........ Yoruba ancient men didn't have god of afterlife though they had knowledge of it yet the had the owner of life Eledua/Olorun/Eledumare/Elemi(Owner of Life)
5. The Egyptians have a polytheism ways worship ........Yoruba had and still have a monotheistic ways of worship...
6. The description of ancient Egyptian or kemet gods are many and they look young,powerful and do take different forms from one another .... Yoruba ancient God is old and having white hairs who CANNOT DIE.
7. The Egyptians or kemet tradition on circumcision was not 7/8/9 days.........Yoruba tradition on circumcision was before Christianity 7/8/9 days
8. The Egyptians believed that human souls is made of five parts; the Ren,the Ba, the ka, the shuet,and the Ib....... Yoruba don't believe in the five part of human souls
9. The Egyptians don't use “El" to call gods...... Yoruba use nearly all word related to “El" to call almighty God
10. The Egyptians ancient way of writing is different. Example, “U"represent(10) ,while lotus flower represent(1000)......The writing on the Oranmiyan Obelisk nailed our differences with ancient Egyptians.
11. The Ancient Egyptians tradition doesn't believe in Levirate marriage...... Yoruba tradition believing in Levirate tradition

From the list above, you can see the core difference from Egypt. I have over time seen people using Jonathan Lucas case study, using it as the basis for Yoruba ancient people relating to Egypt because of language slight similarity but these set of people failed to note that language is dynamic. A child who was born in the bush cannot understand any language apart from the language of animals. Egypt as whole had a lot of immigrants to her place during 3BC/6BC. These people, included Israelites, Elamites, kittites,Ethiopians,Babyloninans, Ammonites, etc.. Do you know where these people are in today's world?
Do you even know that Yoruba had one time rested in Ancient Ethiopia briefly? Yet they differentiated themselves.
How on earth were these men claimed Israel and yet it was in the early 19th century.... RABBIS FORD ARNOLD JOSIAH AND RABBIS MATTHEW WENTWORTH ARTHUR..
But today, Yoruba aren't interested in all of these anymore. The Jewish people that came to South Eastern Nigeria is actually looking forward to YORUBA PEOPLE.
TORAH was found in the part of Yoruba land being observed. And it didn't HAPPEN IN ANY OTHER PLACE THAN IN YORUBA LAND.
there is even an evidence of ISRAEL KINGS IN YORUBA ORAL HISTORY ACCOUNT... WHO WAS KING HUISI? if not HOSEA. WHO WAS OLUASO? if not JOASH.... The account has a connection. Do you know there was a female KING(REGENT)in ancient YORUBA TRADITION?

SirWere:
Of course, we have so much potential.

Potential in mismanagement,economical retrogressive and religious intolerance!

Haoqi24:
It's obvious you have a christian bias se. "The truth and your information is quite all encompassing" this statement makes me understand you already have a conviction on whatever you've come to believe about the race and this is harmful to learning new things.

The bible has been long dismissed as an historical book cause archaeological findings have come to discover that most of the mentioned cities at the dates time the scriptures where writing was not existing or was just a small settling much smaller than a village.

Only the bible is evidence of its claims and no nonbiblical evidence to back the authenticity apart from forgeries that aren't even dated as the same time the scriptures were written.

But I understand your bias.

My question now is what made you start researching the connection between Israeliteand Yoruba

I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS AND SEES YORUBA AS FROM ISRAEL. HERE ARE TWO RABBIS,ONE CATEGORICALLY SAID HE WAS AN ISRAELI LINEAGE OF YORUBA RACE AND THE OTHER ONE SAID HE WAS A FALASHAS LINEAGE(BETA ISRAEL) THE FIRST ONE IS FORD ARNOLD JOSIAH WHO WAS BORN 23 APRIL 1877-16th SEPT 1935. THE SECOND ONE WAS BORN IN LAGOS on 23RD JUNE 1892 - 3RD DECEMBER 1973 AS WENTWORTH ARTHUR MATTHEW. YOU CAN GOOGLE THESE TWO OUT OF THOSE WHO CLAIMED THE TRADITION OF ISRAEL AS THEIRS BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHO THEY WERE. SO DO YOU SEE THAT THERE ISN'T A SMOKE WITHOUT A FIRE.

Haoqi24:
It's obvious you have a christian bias se. "The truth and your information is quite all encompassing" this statement makes me understand you already have a conviction on whatever you've come to believe about the race and this is harmful to learning new things.

The bible has been long dismissed as an historical book cause archaeological findings have come to discover that most of the mentioned cities at the dates time the scriptures where writing was not existing or was just a small settling much smaller than a village.

Only the bible is evidence of its claims and no nonbiblical evidence to back the authenticity apart from forgeries that aren't even dated as the same time the scriptures were written.

But I understand your bias.

My question now is what made you start researching the connection between Israeliteand Yoruba

YORUBA IDENTITY CRISIS MADE ME STARTED THE RESEARCH ON YORUBA. THEN, THE FIRST POINT OF INTEREST IN THE RESEARCH BETWEEN YORUBA AND ISRAEL WAS USERE-MAGBO, WHICH TO ME SOUNDED MORE LIKE IS'RA'EL, THOUGH I WASN'T CONVINCED BECAUSE I AM INQUISITIVE BUT NOT AGGRESSIVE TOWARD IT. THEN, THE YORUBA MODE OF MEN GREETING ELDERLY ONE BY “PROSTRATING" DREW MY ATTENTION,THEN OFO/ASHE/EGEDE(OGEDE)etc -all these are basically enshrined in FAITH, because, if anyone conjure words without FAITH in the YORUBA aforementioned words that manifest as a potent spiritual and active order,it will not manifest and this is similar to ISRAEL PATTERN in using the word of God to conjure , Take for instance, the places IN WHICH MOSES USED THE SAME FORMULA, JOSHUA USED THE SAME FORMULA, DAVID USED THE SAME FORMULA, and it all worked for these ISRAELITES. THE YORUBA USED SUCH METHOD TOO TO CALL THINGS FROM NON EXISTENT TO MANIFEST PHYSICALLY, THEN ANOTHER AREA WAS CIRCUMCISION OF SONS IN 8 DAYS/9 DAYS BEFORE CHRISTIANITY EXISTENCE IN YORUBA LAND. ANOTHER WAS THE TWIN BIRTH, THE ISRAELITES WAS THE FIRST TO BE CREDITED ACCORDING TO BIBLE AND IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND AS OF TODAY, YORUBA HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF TWINS BIRTH IN THE WORLD, ANOTHER ONE WAS THAT ISLAM HAD BEEN IN YORUBA LAND SINCE 14th Century YET,YORUBA DIDN'T ABSORB THE RELIGION NEITHER DID THEY ABSORB CHRISTIANITY DURING THE FIRST PERIOD WHEN THE COLONIALISTS CAME IN 18th CENTURY BUT YORUBA HAD SIMILAR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ALMIGHTY GOD, CREATION MYTH OF GOD IN THE BIBLE( God,hen/dovelike,water,and earth/sands)AND BEING DESCENDANTS OF ALMIGHTY GOD THROUGH ODUA,OBATALA AND ORUNMIELA . THESE WERE THE ORIGINAL ATTRIBUTE AND CLAIMS OF ANCIENT IS'RA'EL. THE FEELING OF BEING DIVINE HUMAN BEINGS.THE NAMES THAT WE WERE CALLED WEREN'T OUR NAMES WE CALLED OURSELVES. THE ARE TWO ONLY NAMES THAT I HAD COME ACROSS WITHOUT ANY ONE GIVEN US THAT NAME WAS ADUA/ODUA/ODUDUWA AND USERE-MAGBO. APART FROM THESE NAMES. YORUBA WAS GIVEN TO US BY A SONGHAI SCHOLAR CALLED “AHMED BABA" IN 16TH CENTURY, WE WERE CALLED ANAGO BY FON(DAHOMEY)PEOPLE BECAUSE “ANAGO" WAS USED TO DESCRIBE US AS BEING TOO PROUD(TALKING TO MUCH OF THEMSELVES) OR ALSO CALLED AHORI, WE ARE CALLED AKU MUCH EARLIER BY PEOPLE BECAUSE OF MODE OF GREETING/SALUTATION.

Can you see why I became more curious? Why did you ask?