₦airaland Forum

Haoqi24:
It's obvious you have a christian bias se. "The truth and your information is quite all encompassing" this statement makes me understand you already have a conviction on whatever you've come to believe about the race and this is harmful to learning new things.

The bible has been long dismissed as an historical book cause archaeological findings have come to discover that most of the mentioned cities at the dates time the scriptures where writing was not existing or was just a small settling much smaller than a village.

Only the bible is evidence of its claims and no nonbiblical evidence to back the authenticity apart from forgeries that aren't even dated as the same time the scriptures were written.

But I understand your bias.

My question now is what made you start researching the connection between Israeliteand Yoruba

You condemn what the Bible had written as non conformist with reality. Now let me open up a little more for the benefit of those who are also Yorubas too reading this and others students of history . To be honest, I don't upload documents or info as some people do but I will inform you on someone hidden things I had come across. I have mentioned and educated you a little on some facts as I have seen them, vis à vis the Yoruba God (Eledumare/Olodumare/Eledua/Elerun/Olorun,Sacrifice using Ram in Yoruba tradition which is in contrast to Egypt's RAM,seen as “GOD", the Yoruba God who couldn't die and monotheism of Yoruba people at par with Israel and contrast to Egypt. In the 18th century,some Yoruba men did justice to standardise Yoruba language in which little harm was done to the phonetic sounds as some ancient words were replaced with the then modern ones. For instance, É(é) was interchange with Ó(ó). So,if you see “El"edumare being changed to“Ol"odumare, Ka-bi-“é" -si to ka-bi-“ó"-si, But word like “Él-a", Él-edá, Él-eduá etc are sustained till now because of the people who are traditionalists that don't follow the books written by educated Yoruba mindsets. Doubt this? Can you tell IFA PRIEST to change his IFA eulogy to a modern Yoruba words?, Impossible. You can still Kindly do a research trip to the remote Yoruba interior lands,you will be amazed at which the dialects are still retained with great jealousy. Now,I have questions for you too before I give an answer your question. And it goes thus; which group were in Egypt during 3BC-6BC?,Who are called Kititties tribes? Who are called the Elamites?,Who is called Sennacherib? Who is called Ashurbanipal?..Now to answer your question on the Bible, have you heard or seen on Television or visited some Historical sites being located in the Middle East in the past? These places confirm with near accuracy of the account of the Bible..DAMASCUS,ASSYRIAN,MECCA,EMPIRE,NINEVEH, etc authenticated the Bible as a guide to many scholars. If you visit London Museum, you will never and never argued over the Bible as being the Oldest Book because artifacts and most of the account recorded account in it that dealt with kingdoms and Empires over thousands (1000s) of years ago that are written in the Bible have excavated ruins being displayed at Museums. Visit England first to see for yourself or google it out or you can subscribe for books on Middle East history. Lastly, if Israel was a small village, how come the recorded account of Nebuchadnezzar on ISRAEL as being captives? Do you know that some ancient coins of Israel are in the MUSEUM today?, Make more research before you relay your views.

blues2022:
True talk....once had on Ondo GF, Tolu, a very wonderful girl.... But NL Afonjas wanna make you group them as same. Ondo felas seems to be a different species of Yoruba.

There you go again! fingers crossed

blues2022:
True talk....once had on Ondo GF, Tolu, a very wonderful girl.... But NL Afonjas wanna make you group them as same. Ondo felas seems to be a different species of Yoruba.

There you go again! fingers crossed

puffcity:
most you comment when you don't have what to say?

The person you quoted above you is among the HATERS OF ODUANS

ODVanguard:
Bros, i think you quoted the wrong person.

PARDONNE MON ERREUR.....Very true...My mistake. These people just annoys with false information. They will be looking for connections where there is non. And there was any at all, history don't miss it. If Yoruba moved out ILE IFE VIA PRINCES AND NOBLE MEN DID RECOUNTED THEIR MOVEMENT AND LOCATION THEY CONTINUALLY SETTLE DOWN TEMPORARILY BEFORE THEIR PERMANENT ABODE. THEN IT AMAZES ME WITH ALL THESE NONSENSICAL THEORIES.

ODVanguard:
Can you just imagine the guy is still arguing blindly and insisting on his imaginary theory or should we call it fantasy? The explanation is plain and simple common sensical yet he's apparently not bright enough to get it.

Them folks must either not have a history they're proud of, or are just plain shamless for wanting so badly to fraudulently superimpose themselves into Yoruba history. It's quite shameful I tell you.

If Tequila isnt telling you the truth,I will advise you to go to ILE IFE and tell them that, they are IBOS. And let them kick your butts....YOU AND YOUR LIKES ARE COMPLETELY MISINFORMING THE WHOLE WORLD WITH YOUR FALSE HYPOTHESIS WITH NO EVIDENCE.....

EDO IS CLAIMING ODUA, NUPE IS CLAIMING ODUA, ORANMIYAN, SHANGO AND NOW IBO IS CLAIMING PART OF ILE IFE. WONDERS SHALL NEVER END. I PITY YOU ALL.

MY ADVICE TO YOU PRECISELY SEUN OSEWA, IS THAT YOU BETTER CALL SOME OF THESE YOUR MODERATORS AND THEIR LIKES THAT RELAY FALSE INFORMATION ON HERE TO ORDER ELSE YOUR SITE WILL BE CREDITED AMONG THE BLACKLIST .

That is when Nigeria Will be manufacturing TOOTHPICKS. CLUELESS COUNTRY LIKE NIGERIA.

Haoqi24:
You still keep quoting myths as historical events... it's pointless if you regard the bible as an historical book. Research "did moses exist" and find out how before the story of Moses there were law givers. These law givers were the prototype the scriptures were written after and given a false name.

The Exodus too is a hoax

I knew you had a christian/Jewish bias from the beginning. If we are to give credit to the originals it will have to be to the Sumerians and Egyptians.

And isn't it of recent the Oduduwa people were called Yoruba?

Now I'm not talking about when the "Yorubas" settled in Ile Ife. I'm talking about traces of their culture.

..YOU CANNOT TALK ABOUT TRACES OF CULTURE WITHOUT THE SETTLEMENT. THEN TO CLARIFY EGYPT DIFFERENCE FROM IS' RA 'EL . EL IS A WORD USED BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT MEANINGS. FOR INSTANCE, EL IS A SINGULAR WORD USED FOR ISRAEL ‘GOD'. WHILE IT WAS ALSO USED IN ANCIENT EGYPT god KNOWN AS ARIES WHO IS KNOWN AS HEAVENLY RAM. THE WORD RAM COMES DOWN TO US FROM ANCIENT EGYPT NEAR THE NILE DELTA. IT WAS SUCH AN IMPORTANT SYMBOLS THAT SOME EGYPTIANS PHARAOHS WERE NAMED AFTER RAM. FOR INSTANCE,RAMESSES,AND THE WORD PY-RAM-ID, MEAN THE ‘ PATERNAL POWER OF RAM '
IN EGYPT MYTHOLOGY, THE RAM OF MENDES, JUPITER AND OSIRIS WERE KNOWN TO REPRESENT THE SOUL OF THE WORLD AND KING OF HEAVEN, JUPITER.
IN THE ANCIENT TIMES,ONE OF THE MAIN CITIES FOR THE WORSHIP OF THE RAM WAS MENDES WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN BY THE EGYPTIANS NAME ‘TO-BANEBDJEDET'. A NAME MEANING‘THE DOMAIN OF RAM DJEDET GENTLEMEN'. THIS WAS THE CENTER OF WORSHIP OF RAM BA.......DOES THE EGYPTIANS FROM THESE FEW OUT OF MANY FACT SHOW EGYPT AS HAVING KNOWLEDGE OF SUPREME MONOTHEISM. THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE.

Haoqi24:
You still keep quoting myths as historical events... it's pointless if you regard the bible as an historical book. Research "did moses exist" and find out how before the story of Moses there were law givers. These law givers were the prototype the scriptures were written after and given a false name.

The Exodus too is a hoax

I knew you had a christian/Jewish bias from the beginning. If we are to give credit to the originals it will have to be to the Sumerians and Egyptians.

And isn't it of recent the Oduduwa people were called Yoruba?

Now I'm not talking about when the "Yorubas" settled in Ile Ife. I'm talking about traces of their culture.

.. I SAW, WHAT YOU WROTE ON EXISTENCE OF YORUBA AT ILE IFE AND SCIENTIFIC'S CARBON TEST HAS SHOWN THAT HUMAN SETTLEMENT DATED BACK BETWEEN THE YEAR I MENTIONED 3BC/6BC AND NOT 10,000 YEARS AS BIASELY CLAIMED IN SOME QUARTER. ON THE DIFFERENT IDENTITIES YOU POSITED, I WILL TELL YOU THAT MAJORITY OF YORUBA DESCENDED FROM SAME FAMILY TREE OF YEB AND (ASWAN) ÉLEPHANTE IN THE NILE DELTA REGION OF EGYPT AND SOMETIMES CALL THE PLACE AMMON(THESE WAS WHERE THE YORUBA ONCE LIVED AND BEING REFERRED TO AS ISRAEL). IN FACT YORUBA WERE ONCE CALLED USERE MAGBO(IS' RA 'EL) AND ONE PERSON DISAGREED AND MENTIONED OBATALA BEING CALLED THAT NAME BUT I SAID THE TRUTH AND MY INFORMATION SOURCING IS QUITE ALL ENCOMPASSING. THE WORD BEING ABUSED AS ODUDUWA(JUDAH)WAS JU ADUA, A HOLY LAND IN ISRAEL. WHY DO YOU THINK NO MATTER HOW TREASONOUS ANY YORUBA GROUP OR INDIVIDUALS WAS,YORUBA DONT WAGE WAR AGAINST ILE IFE? IT WAS SEEN AS HOLY LAND OF GOD OF JUDAH /JADUA/ADUA/ODUA/ODUDUWA.DO YOU HAVE ANY ANSWER WHY ILE IFE WAS NEVER ATTACKED APART FROM AFTER MENTIONED? EVEN IF YORUBA GOT MARRIED INTO ANOTHER TRIBE THE STORY ARE TOLD FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION. THE YORUBA TRADITION HAS IT THAT THE PATRILINEAL AND MATRILINEAL IS ALWAYS RECOGNISED. YORUBA DID MARRIED OTHER TRIBES BUT MAJORITY OF YORUBA ARE PATRILINEAL. IF YOU DOUBT, VERIFY FROM YOUR OWN TOWN, YOU WILL BE AMAZED.WHAT SO DO YOU CALL MYTH? BIBLE?YOU ARE A JOKING. EITHER AS A CHRISTIAN OR MUSLIM OR EVEN OF TRADITIONAL BACKGROUND. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FACT. THE SUMERIANS OR EGYPTIANS,YOU SO LAY EMPHASIS ON NEED NOT BE CREDITED ONLY BECAUSE THE CUSHITES WERE KNOWN,ETHOPIANS,LIBYANS ETC ARE ALL IN THE BIBLE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM WITH COLOURED PEOPLE TRYING TO CONTRADICT THE TRUTH. THE BIBLE IS SEEN AS HISTORICAL BOOK BY HISTORIANS/EXPLORERS OF WHITE BACKGROUND WHO ARE SEARCHING FOR TREASURES AND MANKIND PAST EVENTS. WITHOUT THE SAME BIBLE,EGYPT WON'T BE KNOWN TODAY AS THE CRADLE OF CIVILIZATION BECAUSE CHRISTIANS CRUSADERS(WHO DONT TRULY BELIEVE GOD BUT HIDE UNDER IT AS AN ESCAPE ROUTE TO STEAL AWAY TREASURE)AND ISLAM JIHADISTS ALMOST DESTROYED EVERYTHING THAT WAS IDOLISED. AND HERE YOU ARE CALLING ME BIASED. I AM NOT AN ATHEIST BECAUSE MY FOREFATHERS YORUBA RELIGION TESTIFY TO SPIRITUAL POWER....

Haoqi24:
I'm not saying God isn't real G. All I'm saying is the only reason you see parallels with the Israelites is cause of the stolen and refrabicated culture of the Egyptians and Sumerians.

The spiritual practice of the Yoruba people is older than 10000 years, all nature practices are the same only influences from other culture saying the same makes it evolve.

G, as I said earlier you see the connections you are looking for. That's the Universe in general for you. You choose the path to link the Israelites with the Yoruba, the evidence is a while lot, but I am still of the opinion that is valid only cause they learnt natural culture from the Sumerians n Egyptians and refused to credit their source of knowledge.

...YORUBA ISN'T AS OLD AS 10,000 YEARS. DON'T LET ANYONE FOOL YOU. EVEN AROCHUKWU OF THE IBOS IS OLDER THAN YORUBA'S PRESENCE AT ILE IFE. THE EXISTENCE OF YORUBA AT ILE IFE WAS AROUND 3BC/6BC. FROM WHICH MOVEMENT BEGAN. AND THE YORUBA AREN'T SEPARATE PEOPLE BUT ONE SAME RELATED GROUP WHO HAD ONE BELIEVE OF ONE GOD. EVEN IF THEIR ADVENTURISM MADE THEM DEVIATE INTO ABSORBING FEW BELIEFS OF OTHER PEOPLE. THEY HELD ON TO THEIR DIVINE IDENTITY AS A PEOPLE WHO DESCENDED FROM GOD. TRIBAL MARKS, EGUNGUN FESTIVALS WERE BORROWED IDEOLOGY IN TERMS OF MAKING THEIR BELIEFS OF AFTER LIFE TO LOOK MORE REAL BECAUSE YORUBA TRADITION EMPHASISE AFTER LIFE EXISTENCE WHICH THE KEMET/EGYPTIANS/ISRAEL ETC BELIEVES. THEN ON THE ISSUE OF RELIGION WITH DISPARITY WITH EGYPT IS TRUE AND ISRAEL DIDN'T STOLE ANYTHING FROM EGYPT. IN FACT, CHILDREN OF ISRAEL HELPED EGYPT BECOME THE WORLD POWER DURING THOSE ANCIENT TIMES. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN SO EASILY?, THE GOD OF ISRAEL GAVE COMMANDMENT TO ISRAEL THROUGH MOSES. HOW DO YOU CLAIM EGYPT HAD MORE SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE MORE THAN CHILDREN OF ISRAEL?, JOSEPH INTERPRETED DREAMS TO KINGS AND PEOPLE DESPITE WHAT NO MAGICIANS COULD DO WHEN HE WAS IN JAIL IN EGYPT, HOW DO YOU NOW REFER TO EGYPT HAVING MORE KNOWLEDGE OF DEITY CALLED ONE GOD TO EGYPT?, THE SAME GOD DESTROYED THE WHOLE ARMIES OF EGYPT INSIDE THE RED SEA, HOW DO YOU COMPARE EGYPT WITH ISRAEL? EVEN THE ARABS DESCENDANTS RECOGNISED ISRAEL AS FROM THE SAME FATHER WITH DESPITE THEIR DIFFERENCES. WHAT ARE YOU NOT SEEING?. EGYPT WORSHIP RAM AND DON'T KILL IT OR USE IT AS SACRIFICE. THE ISRAEL KILL RAM AND USE IT FOR ATONEMENT OF SINS AND FOR SACRIFICES. I DON'T HATE AFRICA BUT LET THE TRUTH BE FOUND. TEN TRIBES + ONE (10+1=11) OF ISRAEL WHO ARE THE LARGEST GROUP OF ISRAEL VANQUISHED INTO THE THIN AIR YET THEY ARE IN THE MIDST OF THE WORLD POPULATION. THE WHITE RESEARCHERS ARE LOOKING FOR THEM. BECAUSE GOD WANT TO PROOF A POINT TO THE WHOLE WORLD. DESPITE THE FACT THAT ACCORDING TO CHRISTIANITY, CHRIST CAME TO SAVE THE WORLD. EVEN ISLAM TESTIFY TO EXISTENCE OF GOD LIKEWISE ALL OTHER BOOKS BUT GOD IS ONE AND NOT DIVISIBLE LIKE SOME CALL DIFFERENT WONDERS as gods. EGYPT KNOWS NO GOD MONOTHEISTIC GOD. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

Haoqi24:
Whatever we choose to see is what we'll see...
You choose to see a separation but I assure you nobody serves a different God from the other. I say this because everything is a manifestation/extension of the most high that we can't contain.

Yoruba oh, Igbo, Israel, Kemet, etc as long as they practice their natural spirituality, they are all reaching out to God. Shogbo.

You equating Eledumare and El, is you just seeing the parallels in the practice of two different people trying to reach God naturally.

And you should get your facts write about the ancient Israel records that claims to be historical, it's all allegory and myths. Stories stolen from other civilizations and told to be theirs.

I TELL YOU OF A TRUTH THAT IN YORUBA LAND,SPIRITUALISM BELONGS TO THOSE THAT QUERIES NATURAL THINGS AND SEEK IT OUT . I DON'T HATE ANY TRIBE OR ETHNICITY BUT I INFORM YOU ON THE THINGS I HAVE TAKEN MY TIME TO STUDY WHILE COMPARING DIFFERENT HISTORIANS OF YORUBA DESCENTS AND EUROPEAN DESCENTS. IF I AM GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ASKED,IF I WANT TO BE CALLED AN ISRAELI OR YORUBA? I WILL OBLIGE MY YORUBA IDENTITY OOH HAAA!. YORUBA LAND IS THE MOST ECOLOGICALLY FRIENDLY IN THE WHOLE OF WEST AFRICA. DO YOU DOUBT ME?, GO VERIFY THE RESOURCES YORUBA LAND IS ENDOWED WITH. THE MOST CRITICAL FROM NATURAL RESOURCES ARE TWO IN WHICH THE YORUBA LAND HAVE THEM; THE MOST ARABLE LAND FOR CULTIVATION AND GOOD RAINFALL YEAR IN YEAR OUT. JAPAN DOESN'T HAVE ONE SINGLE NATURAL RESOURCES BUT HUMAN CAPITAL YET THEY ARE TOP TEN ECONOMICALLY BUOYANT NATION. WHY THEN DO WE HAVE A GEOGRAPHICAL EXPRESSION WITH NOTHING TO GAIN FROM BUT SUCK YOU DRY. AS IT STAND, TRUTH NEEDED TO BE SET STRAIGHT. THERE ISN'T ANY CRIME KNOWING WHERE YOU AND I CAME FROM. THE REASON THE EUROPEANS OR ASIATIC EVEN THE MOST TROUBLESOME ARABS HAD ADVANTAGES MORE THAN THE HAMITIC RACE/ SUB SAHARA AFRICANS HAS ALWAYS BEEN BECAUSE OF THEIR IRRATIONAL QUESTIONING OF EVERYTHING. THIS HAS GIVEN THEM MORE AND ADEQUATE TRIAL AND ERROR THEORIES THAT HAD OPENED DOORS OF INVENTION. THESE PEOPLE CAN EVEN TELL YOU FOUR OR FIVE OR EIGHT GENERATIONS OF THEIRS,etc ,CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOUR THREE GENERATIONS BEFORE YOU?, DO YOU KNOW THERE ARE MORE THAN 100S BLACK INVENTORS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, YET THEY ARE NOT KNOWN ANYMORE OR CELEBRATED BECAUSE EVEN THE CURRENT GENERATIONS OF INDIGENOUS BLACK AMERICANS ONLY INVOLVED IN LAMENTATIONS, DRUG DEALINGS AND GUN WIELDING EGOCENTRISM. ASK YOURSELF, HOW MANY OF THOSE MORONS OF AMERICAN SLAVES GENERATIONS HAVE COME BACK TO AFRICA TO INVEST THEIR FUNDS? YET YOU SEE THE WHITES TAKING ALL THESE RISKS. BRO OPEN YOUR EYES AND DO RESEARCH THOROUGHLY. GOD IS REAL AND HE GAVE POWER TO ALL FOR SELF AND GROUP DEVELOPMENT.

naijalander:
Going by your definition of illiteracy, Bill Gates is an illiterate, in fact half of Asia are illiterate, any none English speaker is an illiterate.

LASTLY, IF YORUBA TRULY HAVE NEAR 50% OF EGYPTIANS WORDS IN SIMILARITY, THEN IT PROVED THAT YORUBA ARE ANCIENT IS'RA 'EL BECAUSE THEY LIVED IN EGYPT FOR MORE THAN FOUR HUNDRED (400)YEARS. IF THIS IS TRUE, THE LANGUAGE ISRAELITES SPOKE MUST BE SIMILAR TO THE EGYPTIANS BUT DIFFERENCES CAME INTO BEING WHEN THE GOD CALLED JE' O' VA / ELI SEPARATED HIS PEOPLE FROM EGYPTIANS AND THEIR MAGICS. TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR ENVIRONMENT, AND USE IT AS A CASE STUDY. FOR INSTANCE IF YOU ARE BORN IN SAUDI ARABIA,WHAT LANGUAGE WILL YOU SPEAK? ARABIC OF COURSE BUT ONE THING THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS THAT YOU WON'T FORGET YOUR IDENTITY.... AS SIMPLE AS ABC. I HOPE YOU GOT THE POINT...

Haoqi24:
Are you aware most of the knowledge in the Torah is foreign to the Israelites... Go and research the origin of the Torah.

By the way the Israelites supreme being culture was a concept gotten from Egypt - the center of the world's civilization then. Moses even went so far as to declare that Yahweh, like the God of Egypt, was one (Deut. vi.4).
Remember according to the story he was educated in the Egyptian palace.

The idea of an all powerful god was developed in Egypt and spread with the migration of the Yoruba people. This spiritual conception of god and the universe was begun in the Nile valley 4000 years before the Christian era.

The main thing you should realise is that natural culture has parallels no matter your geographic location.

....SHOW ME ANY PART OF AFRICA THAT HAS PROOF LIKE THE YORUBA WHOSE GOD SPOKE LIKE THIS THROUGH IFA APART FROM ANCIENT ISRAEL.... THIS IS THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION BUT STILL NOT ACCURATE BUT NEARER TO THE MEANING. IT GO THUS

KOROFO,the cult of the underground,
is the one which Consulted the Oracle
about ELEDUMARE/OLODUMARE and
he declared that his death would never be heard
Another One say
ELEDUMARE/OLODUMARE has rubbed his head with bar wood(IYEROSUN)
He will never die
(His) whole head is become exceedingly hoary.

All these are recorded in OGBE(O)YEKU by Bolaji Idowu. THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION DO NOT SEEM TO BE EITHER THE MOST APPROPRIATE OR THE MOST ACCURATE AND FAITHFUL. THE SECOND LINE OF THE FIRST IFA QUOTED SPEAKS AS IF IT WAS NOT OLODUMARE/ELEDUMARE THAT HIMSELF CONSULTED KOROFO,THE IFA PRIEST OF THE UNDERGROUND,BUT KOROFO,WHO DID THE CONSULTATION WITHOUT ANY REQUEST ABOUT ELEDUMARE/OLODUMARE. ALSO THE SECOND ONE SPEAKS OF THE ORACLE AS SUPPORTING THE IMMORTALITY OF ELEDUMARE/OLODUMARE. HOWEVER,PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD, IT WILL BE OBVIOUS THAT IT WAS ELEDUMARE/OLODUMARE WHO CONSULTED HIS WISE MEN. IN THE SAME VEIN

OKANRAN SAYS;

The young never hear that cloth is dead
but cloth only wear old to shreds
The old never hear that cloth is dead
but cloth only wear old to shreds
The young never hear that Eledumare/Olodumare is dead
cloth only wear old to shreds
The old never hear that Eledumare/Olodumare is dead
cloth only wear old to shreds




THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YORUBA GOD THAT NEVER DIES AND CAN SPEAK.... SHOW ME IF EGYPT HAVE THIS KIND OF GOD?

naijalander:
Going by your definition of illiteracy, Bill Gates is an illiterate, in fact half of Asia are illiterate, any none English speaker is an illiterate.

lemme quote three definition I know on the word“ILLITERATE". 1. UNABLE TO READ AND WRITE,2. HAVING LESS THAN AN EXPECTED STANDARD OF FAMILIARITY WITH LANGUAGE AND LITERATURE. 3. NOT CONFORMING TO THE PRESCRIBE STANDARDS OF SPEECH AND WRITING...DOES NIGERIA'S PRESIDENT CONFORM TO STANDARDS OF SPEECH? IF YOU SAY YES,I GUESS YOU SHOULD REVISIT THE OBAMA'S SPEECH BEING QUOTED BY Y-------OUR PRESIDENT THAT EMBARRASSED THE WHOLE NIGERIANS,EITHER AT HOME OR IN DIASPORA. THE FUNNIEST PART WAS THAT ONE P.A CAME UP TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR SUCH MISTAKE BUT IF OUR PRESIDENT WANT TO SIGN MONEY FOR HIS ABROAD MEDICAL BILLS, HE DOES IT WITH EASE. AND THIS IS THE SAME PRESIDENT THAT VOWED TO STOP THE CAPITAL FLIGHT OUT OF NIGERIA ON MEDICAL GROUND BUT TO INVEST THE MONEY ON NIGERIA HOSPITALS. DOES HE CONFORM TO THE PRESCRIBED STANDARD OF SPEECH HE MAKES?..I REST MY CASE.

Haoqi24:
Are you aware most of the knowledge in the Torah is foreign to the Israelites... Go and research the origin of the Torah.

By the way the Israelites supreme being culture was a concept gotten from Egypt - the center of the world's civilization then. Moses even went so far as to declare that Yahweh, like the God of Egypt, was one (Deut. vi.4).
Remember according to the story he was educated in the Egyptian palace.

The idea of an all powerful god was developed in Egypt and spread with the migration of the Yoruba people. This spiritual conception of god and the universe was begun in the Nile valley 4000 years before the Christian era.

The main thing you should realise is that natural culture has parallels no matter your geographic location.

.Torah has no connection with Egyptians because it is all about the five books(scripture) of the ancient is'ra' el that specifically identified with the dealing with one SUPREME GOD CALLED EL/ JE O VA ..The Egyptians are magicians and had different gods to the four elements of LIFE, WHICH ARE WATER,EARTH(SANDS), AIR AND WATER. AND MY BELOVED YORUBA HAD ONE SUPREME GOD CALLED ELEDUMARE(ALMIGHTY BEING) or OLORUN etc (CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AS WELL AS BEING CALLED OWNER OF ALL THINGS)..Let me inform you more about the Yoruba God whom the ancient worshipped too. it has nothing to do with religion of Christians or Muslim. The ancient Is' ra' El returned to Egypt when there was a military agreement was signed.... That Info will be later but not to digress, the God cannot die according to IFA.

Haoqi24:
Are you aware most of the knowledge in the Torah is foreign to the Israelites... Go and research the origin of the Torah.

By the way the Israelites supreme being culture was a concept gotten from Egypt - the center of the world's civilization then. Moses even went so far as to declare that Yahweh, like the God of Egypt, was one (Deut. vi.4).
Remember according to the story he was educated in the Egyptian palace.

The idea of an all powerful god was developed in Egypt and spread with the migration of the Yoruba people. This spiritual conception of god and the universe was begun in the Nile valley 4000 years before the Christian era.

The main thing you should realise is that natural culture has parallels no matter your geographic location.

DONT BE CARRIED AWAY BY WHAT “OLUMIDE JONATHAN LUCAS" WROTE ON YORUBA PEOPLE IN 1948. THOUGH CREDIT MUST GO TO HIM BECAUSE HE DID SOME TREMENDOUS WORK ON FINDING THE IDENTITY OF YORUBA PEOPLE THROUGH THEIR LANGUAGE AND MIGRATION TO THE PLACE THEY REFERRED TO AS ILE IFE AND NOT TO BE SEEN AS ABORIGINES. HOWEVER, HE DIDN'T TELL YOU TO LIMIT YOURSELF BUT WAS SHOWING YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT YORUBA ORAL HISTORY OF MIGRATION THEORY.

Haoqi24:
Are you aware most of the knowledge in the Torah is foreign to the Israelites... Go and research the origin of the Torah.

By the way the Israelites supreme being culture was a concept gotten from Egypt - the center of the world's civilization then. Moses even went so far as to declare that Yahweh, like the God of Egypt, was one (Deut. vi.4).
Remember according to the story he was educated in the Egyptian palace.

The idea of an all powerful god was developed in Egypt and spread with the migration of the Yoruba people. This spiritual conception of god and the universe was begun in the Nile valley 4000 years before the Christian era.

The main thing you should realise is that natural culture has parallels no matter your geographic location.

....Before, One comment, it seems you have realised your error. I have seen many of you that profess Yoruba identity but lacked the TRUE identity of YORUBA. The reason is that being called MODERN YORUBA OR ANCIENT PEOPLE WHO MIGRATED TO ILE IFE HAD one great trait called ‘OMOLUABI'.LEARN TO BE ONE. OTHER ETHNICITY pretend to love themselves and Yorubas antagonise themselves most of the times EXCEPT they have Issues with INVADERS. THAT IS THE ONLY TIME THEY SHEATHE THEIR SWORDS AGAINST EACH OTHER. WHY MUST THIS BE SO? I AM A YORUBA WHOSE PRIDE IS AS HIGH FROM THE EARTH TO INFINITY. So learn to a good Yoruba and not like the BAD ONES.

absoluteSuccess:
I'm up and about, as usual.

Keep up the good work.

LET US KEEP WORKING TO SUSTAIN OUR HISTORY. NO MAN IS AN ISLAND BECAUSE FACTS CAN BE OVERRIDDEN ONCE A NEW FACT EMERGES. ALTHOUGH I HAVE SEEN SOME YORUBA GUYS WHO HAVE STREAMLINED THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF WHOM YORUBA PEOPLE ARE TO ILE IFE. AFTER ALL, WE AREN'T KNOWN AS YORUBA UNTIL 16TH CENTURY CENTURY SCHOLAR OF SONGHAI EMPIRE REFERRED TO US WITH SUCH WORD AS YORUBA. AS FAR AS AM CONCERNED I KNOW WITH MORE EFFORT WE WILL UNRAVEL MANY MYSTERIES ABOUT YORUBA RACE WITH MORE ARTICULATED FINDINGS. AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE ALL OF US CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IRRESPECTIVE OF DIFFERENCES AND NOT WAIT FOR WHITE MEN TO FIND OUT OUR IDENTITY FOR US. IT WILL BE A SHAME. AFTER ALL AGBAJOWO LA FI N SO AYA. GOD BLESS

Haoqi24:
Mamuno, I am Yoruba... And you trying to reconcile your slave masters folklore to give yourself an identity is shameful to your roots. You don't even know it wasn't David who wrote the psalms. You suggesting Yoruba is the cursed lost 10 tribes how insulting. That they don't know what they do?

YOU ARE NOT YORUBA . AND STOP FOOLING YOURSELF. COME OUT WITH YOUR IDENTITY. I KNOW MY HISTORY AND I WILL ALWAYS STAND FOR IT. DID THE WHITE MEN THOUGHT ANCIENT YORUBA PEOPLE SUPREME BEING WHOM THEY CALLED ELEDUMARE? ASHÉDA? ÉLÉDUA? ÉLÉDA? WHAT ETHNICITY PRACTICE LEVIRATE APART FROM ANCIENT ISREAL AND YORUBA?, WHICH ETHNICITY APART FROM YORUBA AND ANCIENT ISRAEL USES RAM FOR SACRIFICE AND CLEANSING?THE PART ISRAELITE SCRIPTURE BEING WORSHIPPED AT ILE IFE CALLED “IDI".WHERE DID IT COME FROM? THE CHIEF PRIEST IS CALLED ASARA, AND ANCIENT ISRAEL CHIEF PRIEST WAS CALLED ANASARA. HOW COME YORUBA HAVE SIMILARITIES WITH THEM. HOW COME ISRAEL AND YORUBA GIVE RIGHT TO BOTH MOTHER (MATRILINEAL) AND FATHER(PATRILINEAL )SIDES OF THE FAMILY? DO YOU EVEN KNOW MAJORITY OF YORUBA DEITIES BEFORE WERE YORUBA MEN THAT WERE DEIFIED AFTER THEIR DEMISE OF THE GREAT YORUBA MEN WHO HAD KNOWLEDGE OF GOD? HOW COME YORUBA POWER OF CONJURING WORD INTO BEING(WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM MAGIC)WHICH CALLED ASHÉ IN YORUBA AND MASHÁH IN ANCIENT ISRAEL?etc. WHY IS YORUBA THE MOST RESEARCHED ETHNICITY IN THE WORLD? YOU ARE NOT YORUBA BLOOD. STOP FOOLING YOURSELF. EVEN IF YOU CLAIM IT, YOU MAY BE ONE OF THOSE WHO BECAME YORUBA THROUGH NATURALIZATION. I DOUBT IT.

absoluteSuccess:
Lolz.

Hope you doing fine bro?

I am doing good and can't ask for more. Thanks for asking. And you?

vanbonattel:
See yoruba man trying to deny their party mess. Apc is the party in the centre, has buhari told you he won with CPC?

IT SEEMS THERE'S A SPECK IN YOUR EYES. IS YOUR ABLE BROTHER, DR. CHRIS NGIGE, THE MINISTER FOR LABOUR THAT THREATENED FIRE AND BRIMSTONE DURING LAST YEAR FAILED INDUSTRIAL STRIKE IS ALSO A “YORUBA MAN "? .I CAN'T STOP MAKING JEST OF YOUR UNREALISTIC BITTERNESS. MY HEART TEACH MY HANDS TO TYPE THINGS THAT ARE “RAW TO ME AND NOT WAR TO ME" AND IT MAY BE “WAR TO YOU AND RAW". YOU MAY BE A DEVIL TO IT BUT I LIVED IT AND I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH. OWN TO THE TRUTH AND LIVE IT BECAUSE IF NIGERIA IS BEEN DRIVEN LIKE THE MINDSET OF AKINWUMI AMBODE, PERHAPS, RIGHT PEG WILL BE PUT IN ROUND HOLE.

Haoqi24:
SHARRAP THERE WITH YOUR CHRISTIAN BIAS

DESTITUTE WITH NO TRACE LET ME KNOW YOUR IDENTITY IF YOU AREN'T ASHAMED OF YOURSELF AND YOUR TRIBE. I AM PROUDLY YORUBA AND KNOW MY HISTORY. WHAT IS YOUR STORY?TELL ME YOUR FAMILY TREE.....

989900:
You've said so much in very few words . #kudos

Thanks for the compliment.

naijalander:
How can a word have more meaning than it does in a dictionary, how dumb can you get?

If he was an illiterate he would not be where he is today you fakkin nincompoop.

YOUNG MAN, YOU SEEM NOT TO HAVE MANNERS. I WILL ADVICE YOU TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE WAY YOU USE WORDS. I WOULD HAVE USE A MORE DEROGATORY WORDS ON YOU BEYOND YOUR BONE MARROW BUT I DESIST FROM IT BECAUSE YOU'RE YORUBA .HOWEVER ,BEFORE YOU CONCLUDE, YOU SHOULD TRY TO CHECK THE DIFFERENT MEANING OF “ILLITERATE" if it can't be used for a PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA in a broader context. DOES THE PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA OBEYS COURT'S ORDER? THE DICTIONARY CANT BE WRONG!. STILL I WANT YOU TO KNOW ALL OF US DON'T BELONG TO THE SAME LEVEL IN LIFE OR SAME SCHOOL OF THOUGHT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING POMPOUS BUT REALITY. THE TRUTH IS THAT ALL INDIVIDUAL DON'T HAVE SAME THUMB PRINT,SO DON'T TAKE KNOWLEDGE DIFFERENCE WITH THE FEELING OF HATRED. I STAND TO BE CORRECTED AFTER YOU HAVE CHECKED THE DICTIONARY MEANING OF “ILLITERATE". AND IF IT HAS MORE THAN ONE MEANING, THEN LEARN TO TAMED YOUR HEART WHEN TYPE OUT INFORMATION ON A FORUM

naijalander:
Buhari is not an illiterate and worse people have represented Nairobi in the past.

Dickhead

If the President isn't ILLITERATE, then define the word in a broader form .This word ‘ILLITERATE',has more meaning than ‘being unable to read or write . Please, don't compare a very complex country like Nigeria that had championed Africa greatness with Nairobi because it is as if you are comparing ,LIFE AND DEATH. Have you taken your time to look at Nigeria's history vis à viz her helpful role she played for many of these AFRICA COUNTRIES. If you know these, you will understand that the said Nigeria's PRESIDENT of this current 2015-2019 is ILLITERATE in a broader context.

FirstTImeUser:
Why is APC working in Lagos (as large as Lagos is) and with Nigeria it seems they are non existent?

The answer is simply because Lagos is the APC PARTY while the party at the center is the CPC. And CPC won't work because it belong to the MEDIOCRE and ETHNOCENTRIC NORTHERN OLIGARCHY.

MrPresident1:
MY FRIEND, THERE ARE TWO GROUPS OF PEOPLE LIVING IN AFRICA, THE ABORIGINAL AFRICANS, THE HAMITES; AND THE ANCIENT ISRAELITES OTHERWISE CALLED THE NEGROES. THE PROPHECY MAKES THIS VERY CLEAR TO US.

ISRAEL LIVES IN PLACES BEYOND THE RIVERS OF ETHIOPIA, AMONG THE ABORIGINAL HAMITES.

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.

MY DEAR BRO, I HAVE GONE PAST THIS STAGE OF EMOTION ABOUT ISRAELITES IDENTITY BECAUSE I WAS MORE WORRIED FOR MY YORUBA IDENTITY FROM A TENDER AGE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHY ?BUT I CAN AUTHORITATIVELY TELL YOU I SHARE YOUR VIEW BUT DO NOT TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU WITH NEGROES BEING ISRAELITES . I WILL MENTIONED THREE MAIN CHARACTERISTICS, WHICH ARE; MONOTHEISTIC SUPREME GOD,HUMANE BEHAVIOUR ,AND TRADITIONS(ONE OUT OF THEIR MAIN TRADITION IS THAT THEY USE “RAM" AS A SACRIFICE). THESE CHARACTERS ARE NOT WITH ALL THE PEOPLE YOU CALLED NEGROES.I AM NOT A NEGRO AND I REJECT IT BUT A PROUDLY YORUBA MAN.

MrPresident1:
Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.

This is common sense. From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia...where is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia, and who are the people dwelling in the places beyond the rivers of Ethiopia, what is the complexion of these people, are they pale skinned or is their skin rich in melanin?

The Negroes are the Israelites of the Bible.

I know who I AM. Don't mess with me

YOU MAY KNOW WHO YOU ARE BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT ISRAELITES DIDN'T EAT HUMAN BEINGS AS MANY OF THE AFRICAN RELIGION DIDN'T FORBID IT BECAUSE OF THEIR MULTIPLE gods. DON'T BLUNDER ,NOT ALL COLOURED/BLACKS MEN ARE OF ISRAELITES ORIGIN. THEIR PECULIARITIES STOOD THEM OUT. Egyptians, Ethiopians, Ammonites,Thebes,Libyans,Sudanese etc aren't ISRAELITES. The ISRAELITES migrated to PART OF THESE places especially Egypt which inhabited millions of ISRAELITES because of Military pact with EGYPT when the whole THIRTEEN(13) TRIBES(BUT CALLED TWELVE(12)) of Israel were still under one authority and WHEN later the ASSYRIANS CAPTURED and the TEN + ONE TRIBES OF ISRAEL while the remnants(SCANTY TWO TRIBES) were left alone at JUDAH.There biblical scholars and historians who had done tremendous work in identifying these ISRAELITES IN AFRICA.

MrPresident1:
Jesus is a darkskinned Negro BLACK MAN . Negroes are different from aboriginal Africans who are the children of Ham.

The dispersed Israelites who today are living in the land of Ham are different from hamites. Although both of them have the same skin colour, they are not the same people.

Africa is the land of Ham, and the Hamites are black people. If the Daughter of the dispersed of God are living beyond the rivers of Ethiopia, and the places beyond the rivers of Ethiopia is the interiors of Africa,

WHAT IS THE COMPLEXION OF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE PLACES BEYOND THE RIVERS OF ETHIOPIA (THE INTERIORS OF AFRICA)?

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.

I agree with what the Bible says but you refused to REALISED THAT ISRAELITES LIVED IN ÉLEPHANTÉ OR THE CITY OF ASWAN IN EGYPT. THE INTERIOR PART OF AFRICA ISN'T THE PRESENT DAY ETHIOPIA ALONE BUT COVERS A HUGE LANDMASS. I HAVE STUDIED THIS VERY WELL BEYOND EMOTIONS. Enjoy your self search bro to know your IDENTITY

akpamuomenka:
Somtimes I doubt some of these suicide cases, evil men may kill someone and hang him to cover up.

That can be true because no part of it all as it concerns homicide in crime of this magnitude especially in this peculiar case that appears as there is a something fishy. I have never imagined such could have happened in a church of God. All I know is that something about the man's death isn't right and God will expose the perpetrators of this devilish act.

Iamwrath:
And some ediots already called him a coward with afonja blood , he started what he couldn't finish, blablabla

People are daft., if. Not for 2face that protest wouldn't have held

TUFACE DID A SELF FOOT SHOT FOR CHICKENING OUT. HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TOO PRONOUNCED IN THE STRUGGLE IN THE FIRST PLACE IF HE HAD WEIGHED THE OPTIONS AVAIL HIM BECAUSE HE LOVED HIS LIFE WHICH I DON'T BLAME HIM FOR LOVING HIS LIFE BUT FOR PERSUADING PEOPLE TO PROTEST AND BACKED DOWN DUE TO UNPOPULAR REASONS, IT IS A SHAME ON HIS PART FOR TOYING WITH THOUSANDS OF HEARTS WILLING TO SACRIFICE THEIR TIME AND RESOURCES TO FACE THE SIMILAR THREAT OF THE GOVERNMENT AND STILL PROTEST! THEN IT MEAN, TUFACE HAS FAILED AS A POTENTIAL LEADER IN HIS 40S!

CaptainBomb:
I have been to the hospital today to see my sister and know what step to take. With heavy heart i am writing

this message because on getting to the hospital today i saw a different thing which has not been there before..

I think the only help my sister needs now is divine intervention because it has gotten to a very critical

stage.
When i got to the hospital today, i saw my sister Legs Swollen which is not like that before. I think her

kidney has damaged because according to what her husband told me..he told me that test shows that she has a

liver problem .. i google few things about liver failure and what i read is quite different from what her

husband told me.. When i got there this morning, i look at my sister eyes and it was very yellow, All her feet

and legs have swollen up, she couldnt talk very well , she couldnt breath very well... according to what i read

on Google : ----> Signs of Kidney Failure
a reduced amount of urine.
swelling of your legs, ankles, and feet from retention of fluids caused by the failure of your kidneys to

eliminate water waste.
unexplained shortness of breath.
excessive drowsiness or fatigue.
persistent nausea.
confusion.
pain or pressure in your chest.
seizures.

This same Kidney failure is what killed my mum sister about 6 years ago

I dont think she will survive it because this are the signs i see in my Aunt before she passed out.. She died in my presence.. i am the only one that was with her the day she passed out. Dear Nairalanders i dont think the donations is neccesary again because i am suspecting that it is cancer that spread to those organs , The mistake we did was that we didnt do the BOIPSY before her husband went ahead to remove the lump in her breast.. It is now that the condition is getting worse that doctor give us a form to do a BIOPSY Scan/Test .. Her Tummy has swollen up.. I am not wishing my sister to die but the way i see things i dont think she will survive the illness except God Intervene in this case .

I really Thank everyone that support me and my sister .. I wrote a note and told her to hold it so that i can snap her with the note for her too to show appreciation. Thank you very much. May God not let any of you encounter this kind of thing.

see some pictures after the message

I think my sister is already Gone..

.It is a sad story to read. However, with God all things are possible. In as much as you keep trying, your effort might be successful and don't ever give up on her. She might have the heart of a lioness to fight through. Don't make her look dead before she dies. We all have one life on earth to live and be bold about your encouragement. It is well