₦airaland Forum

Amujale:
The point of this thread is to proof beyond doubt that the Yoruba was, are present in Kemit at the start and as such, our language features a great deal.

More importantly, our ancestors helped found Kemit.

Yes, there was other communities from the continent, however, Yoruba is one of them.

Accurate!

macof:
You don't go around embarrassing yourself claiming you are doing what my ancestors did. Unless your ancestors are not yoruba, after all we can't say with you clowns who claim Yoruba but claim Hebrew at the same time

I'm still waiting for your born to be foolish self to debunk a single point I have raised. When you do that you get to talk to me

You that can't differentiate between T'eri and ba eri ,but got stuck into ‘ Teriba ,' because, you saw it in a dictionary,without sieving Koine Yoruba word from Classic Yoruba dialects ! Bigotry is what you stand for. It is obvious you lacked the pedigree to be called a Yoruba person. Learn Yoruba more :

Te eri : bend your head or bow your head

Ba eri : bend your head or bow your head

Bowo : bow your head in submission

English's bow : bend your head in submission.

Bow has it foundation as a loaned word from Classic Hebrew into English lexicon and has true cognate with it.

Mr. lair liar ,yu're in for more shocks because I can't find Ibos or Ewe, sharing this word as true cognate with Yoruba's ?

Have you even taken time to study the language families in Benin Republic and other Franco phone Yoruba language is found ?

Perhaps, you will learn more to see that the Yorubas are linguistically different from Ewe , Gun , Fon etc in this country's classification.

macof:
Nope, Yoruba ancestors are not Congolese. Nobody is saying Yoruba are Congolese mumu. I have to tell you this a million times over what a dense fellow

im waiting for you to do two things
1. highlight said evidence provided for Yoruba being semitic
2. debunk any of the points I have raised eg. The consonant sound change between Volta Niger languages of which Yoruba, Edo and Igbo belong; Genetic analysis showing that the Yoruba share identical y-dna (paternal lineage) with Igbo, Ga, Ewe and other groups of the lower Guinea region

All you are doing here is ranting and crying mr. Semitic Semolina
Whether you like it or not, Yoruba are original West Africans who share common origin with her neighbours

Just imaging this pathetic lair liar . Kindly, explain

1.Which ethnic group do Yoruba in North America and South America share y-dna with ?

2. Why is Yoruba's y-dna found in Northern Europe ?

3. Why is the Iwo Eleru date of fossil human of 11,200 ± 200 BP different from Yoruba's date of existence chronologically with over 1000± year ?

4. Why do Obelisks appears in Yoruba's inscription as found in Near East, and not Ibo,Ewe, Edo or other Africans inscriptions ?

5. Why is Yoruba language have nearly all root words in Semitic as claimed by an Emeritus Professor, Isaac Adejoju Ogunbiyi ?

Ignorance has led you astray, do, I can't stop laughing at this West African identity of yours, which make you a big bigot! C'est fini.....

MetaPhysical:
Yes bro. Ok, so Ive participated on variants of this same topic but in different and older threads. It happens that this particular thread has sustained much longer than the others, which I personally like in the sense we have just one container to deposit knowlesge instead of opening new threads and having knowledge scattered around. So this thread and its continuity is a good thing, we ought to keep it.

Now, there is no thread or discussion group I participated in which I have not disclosed that I am using sound and the esoterism of sound....in other words the meeting point of ether (thoughts) and material (action). There is a ritual involved....which is the dedication of self (thoughts) to earth (material). A part of us follows through and kiss the forehead to the ground....."isojude"! When a force is present to accept the ritual....that force we call "sigidi".

The intersection and interaction of geomagnetic waves with cosmic waves define certain fields referred as "Ley Lines". These ley lines our ancestors capture to site shrines and bury certain sacred items. In our own Yoruba language they are the Idus that I talked about. Eredu/Eredo being a prominent. In Semitism they are called Ard. In fact, old Mesopotamia also had a place called Eridu/Eredu.

There are probably ideograms that will explain everything and further put things into perspective but I do not know quite honestly. I have followed your use of Hebrew alphabets to break words down, i follow and understand what the alphabets are. I went to a arabic school as a little boy and learnt to read and write the quran in arabic. So I am not unfamiliar with the exercise and the usage of alif, kasra, dawma and hamza as diacritic vowels. I just have a different style and approach to the whole issue of origin.

I am not sure we are making as good a progress as was in beginning....distractions have robbed the thread of good pace.

Peace bro....and you are doing a hell lot of good job and with great new information.

Blessings to you!

Quite an amazement before me because I didn't realise you had a great background as having knowledge in Arabic knowledge. Kudos.

Secondly, good one for using a simplified model that I want us to know because, seeing what I see by others proofs that, Almighty God is real which is beyond the atheists and those who don't agree with the many account of the Bible.


Thirdly, Alarede is , the wanderer, the Vagrant. While Arede is same as Hebrew's rud, ard or Arad( Ared), with inscription as : Aleph + resh + dal. The meaning in both languages is vagrant, habit of vagrancy, wanderer or to roam restlessly. Meanwhile, most often, the consonants or vowels are inserted to reconstruct Hebraic ancient words in such a way to make a meaning because the Classic Hebrews written ideograms were developed at that era with root words, which serves as the foundation for the speakers of the language to be able to reconstruct all for the purpose it serves in today's world and beyond.Interestingly, This word is also found in Arabic lexicon to mean, to flee. Thus, the three ethnic groups are linguistically related more. In Yoruba's proverb: Bi aya ba mo oju oko tan ; Alarede a ye ba( As soon as the bride becomes acquainted with her groom, the wanderers desert humbly )

Below are screenshot to support these words in both Hebrew's and Yoruba's language

Note: Pardon my late response. It was due to other personal issue.



Cheers.

MetaPhysical:
Im going to focus on word collections and their cognates going forward.

Yoruba word 'Arede".
Usage - Express passion, desire toward opposite sex.
Sample - Alarede mi.
Meaning - My beloved.

I found to this to be consistent with English word "Ardent", to express passion, strong desire.


Yoruba word "Idu".
Variants - Ido. Edu, Edo
Usage - Geopositioning.
Sample - Iduma, Edumare, Eredu, Eredo

This word infers sacredness of earth. For instance a place of sacred energy....or magnetic properties....making it suitable for erecting shrine, a place of worship or for other sacred considerations.

I found this to be consistent with Semitic word "Ard", meaning Earth.


Yoruba word "Ana"
Usage - Establishing a bond
Sample - Ana mi. A olo da'na
Meaning - My in-law. We are making a cross-bond

I found this to be consistent with Semitic "Adna", variant "Dana", to form a close relationship or bond.

Well informed. Please, is there anyway, you can post the Hebrew's classic ideograms to Ard ? Reason being that many dictionaries to Classic Hebrew lexicon have slightly different view on the meaning which is due to figurative expression or seemingly not well translated or wrongfully translated.

Meanwhile, I know Dana and many others exist in Classic Hebrew dictionaries but the interpretation are at times in variance or not incomformity or even loosely related to Yoruba's word or words. So, I just want to see the ideogram for it if you have it.




Cheers

macof:
You don't go around embarrassing yourself claiming you are doing what my ancestors did. Unless your ancestors are not yoruba, after all we can't say with you clowns who claim Yoruba but claim Hebrew at the same time

I'm still waiting for your born to be foolish self to debunk a single point I have raised. When you do that you get to talk to me

Lol . Wonders never ends. Is Yoruba even the ancient name for the people who claimed, being the descendants of the world founders ? Kindly keep your false view in your pocket, because your view holds no evidence.

kayfra:
Keep the insanity in one thread. Don't spread the virus

Lol. Don't have such strength to compete with some of you guys. But try to ask Professor Isaac Adejoju Ogunbiyi,reason Yoruba language has root in Semitic language.

Note: having problem knowing him ? Google will help you through in your search for his identity.

Cheers

geosegun:
Agreed - Ade in Adelodun is not royalty but connotes arrival f a child during related festive period.

It seems you didnt follow my lead on the information, that's same as your which I stood by. Perhaps, you need understand the fact that ‘Ade' as a prefix or suffix do change the meaning when other word is added.

In fact ,‘ Ade' ,in this context of crown is not older Yoruba language or in dialects though it is a generic name for ‘crowns' because, what it means are numerous such as it is ’worn(wear); a description of the metal,bone, wooden material,fezlike material, diadem, etc, which is place on one's head as a symbol of being identified as a ’ King' and also, to cover up the head with whatever need be,etc. So, I agree with your notion here because, Ade+(lo+odun) is homonymous in nature,in the same way ‘Ájé'(figurative expression for witch or one who eats, or We ate(eat) or will eat is homonymous in nature.




Cheers

Sammy07:
Ade is of two types. (surnames and other names)

Ade - crown - royalties use it most (as surnames)

Ade - We've arrived, we've come, we're here (anyone can bear it) (as other names)

If you see anyone having "ade" as surname, be 99% sure that he's a royalty, the other 1% is if he changed his surname to "ade"

But, if you see anyone bearing Ade as middle name, other names, 100% sure that he's either a royalty or not.

That's the logic.
E.g you have two Friends A & B
A bears --- Adetunji Josephine Shola
B bears --- Odediran Adebola Michael

It means A is 99% royalty
B is 90% not royalty.

But there are some royals that doesn't use Ade as surnames.

That's the logic

I agree with your total submission because Ade this or that may or not be associated with royalty, and specific,it doesn't necessary mean that one come from such noble home, which is due to Christian 19th century missionaries doctrines . Mostly, names associated with bravery, wealth, or lordship are often use by royalty.


Note : *modified due to typo errors*

Sammy07:
Ade is of two types. (surnames and other names)

Ade - crown - royalties use it most (as surnames)

Ade - We've arrived, we've come, we're here (anyone can bear it) (as other names)

If you see anyone having "ade" as surname, be 99% sure that he's a royalty, the other 1% is if he changed his surname to "ade"

But, if you see anyone bearing Ade as middle name, other names, 100% sure that he's either a royalty or not.

That's the logic.
E.g you have two Friends A & B
A bears --- Adetunji Josephine Shola
B bears --- Odediran Adebola Michael

It means A is 99% royalty
B is 90% not royalty.

But there are some royals that doesn't use Ade as surnames.

That's the logic

I agree with your assertion because Ade this or that may or not ne associate's with royalty,and specific, not make one come from such noble home, which is due to Christian doctrines. Mostly, names associated with bravery, wealth, or lordship are often use by royalty.

macof:
Will you keep quiet. What ancestors? You who are a lost soul with no knowledge or connection to his ancestry
Wannabe Hebrew

And nobody is trying to merge anybody with anybody you dimwit.
Yoruba and her neighbors share common origin is not the same as saying Yoruba are Igbos
Damned retard

Lol. Ignorant as ever and still representing ! Below is a distinctive pavement found in Yoruba land that's not found amongst Nigeria's Ibos,Udoma,Hausa, Edo,or im any part of SAVANAH region and SAVANAH WEST AFRICA ( Haour 2013)

This is another uniquen information that point to the non conformity of Yoruba ethnic as aboriginal to Africa. Below is the screenshot of original Yoruba's pavement identity, with their advance technology from time immemorial and not the Pyramid type or hieroglyphs as found in Africa. Plainly, you being Umu Igbo, need position yourself for more education.

The reality is that the frustration, continues with your types.

kayfra:
My wish is for the insanity to stop. This thread belongs in a garbage can

please, what does Yoruba traditionalists mean by Odu Iwa( Igba Iwa) ?

Why do Oyinbos significantly appear in Yoruba's tradition ?


Why is Yoruba's Ela is same as Hebrew's Ella and closely related to Arabic's Ala ? All having same meaning as God but these were not in any other ethnic groups language ?


Did yoruba loaned all these words from Semitic groups ?


Seriously, I mock your ignorance because you lacked the pedigree to be on this platform. I. Fact, you're a joke

illicit:
I will just have u know that Yoruba, igede, idoma, Igbo all belon to kwa.

Why should kwa have a meaning in Yoruba?

It's a generic name in Language classification (Linguistics)

Cultures have been exchanged overtime, nothing new in places sharing some rituals and traditions, same way language spreads.


if u said we are abrahamic, how come we don't have written history like d Jews.

The Jews have been writing for a long time.

Classic Hebrew protolanguage, Arabic etc lexicon's connection to Yoruba's is because These ethnic groups having corrupt form of spoken words found in Yoruba language is because, Arabic's root words and Classic Hebrew language being reconstructed have cognates with Yoruba's which position Yoruba language as teacher's language and unto learners language as found, amongst the words and lexicon in Near East and Coptic Egypt and beyond the people you mentioned . Please bear in mind that Aramaic language was reestablished in 409Bc in Egypt.


Fact is that, the same way Yoruba is connected to the group you mentioned via exchange of culture and cohabitation is the same way Yoruba people were connected to the places Ifaodu was established. Interestingly, Raml of Arabic divination , Hebrews Urim or Ifaod divination and Yoruba's Ifaodu or Oramiela's have same root and focus, about God.


Yes, Kwa is generic term in linguistic but does have meaning in other minority languages, that can stand the population of the speaker of Yoruba dialects before such name was hurriedly adopted. This alone is an insult on an ethnic group with the most sophisticated Art work and industrialisation in Subsahara Africa,which scholars amongst these people argued over it. For instance, English language is originally and still a Germanic related language before their loan lexicon from other languages such as Arabic and Hebrews,which are found when unique group come in contact with each other. Though English language transliterated and translate the Classic Hebrew via Roman-Latin,Greek etc according to their knowledge. Even at this, Historians didn't claimed that English language birthed Germanic language as being classified in West Africa. So, I do disagree with such early 1950s lump up.

You basically underestimated Yoruba's identity, which is the reason you asked such question. Plajnly, the obelisk and Figurines are the written records to your questions. Though all yorubas are not Yorubas but all yorubas are yorubas.

Last, I have enough written account and ideograms to support the above information.

My question is this: Are you aware that Yoruba's Peh or Pè is cognate and closely in spelling as with classic Hebrew ? But according to erudite scholars.Forortunatey ,this information is false because this Classic Hebrew language does exist ? This one out of over a thousands words that show that Kpom spoken by Ibos which has mean same meaning as with Yoruba's is loan into Ibo's lexicon's.




Cheers

illicit:
I will just have u know that Yoruba, igede, idoma, Igbo all belon to kwa.

Why should kwa have a meaning in Yoruba?

It's a generic name in Language classification (Linguistics)

Cultures have been exchanged overtime, nothing new in places sharing some rituals and traditions, same way language spreads.


if u said we are abrahamic, how come we don't have written history like d Jews.

The Jews have been writing for a long time.

interesting.

illicit:
Yoruba is a kwa language not an Afro Asiatic language.

It is Niger Congo


We share similarities with languages in the same family.


There's no Abraham in Yoruba tradition and folklore

I disagree with such notion, with a lot of information that Yoruba language being classified as kwa is dubious because , there was a problem with yoruba language etc in West Africa, ought be classified,which led to this Kwa as name in 1950s, which has no meaning in Yoruba language. Documented information, has it that Yoruba language was once classified as Sudanic language.

The people who classified Yoruba language have no knowledge of the language's history, hence the language was classified as Kwa.Therefore Yoruba's language of ‘intimacy' are not understood by any member family of Niger Congo except properly Yoruba related ethnic group with knowledge of Ifaodu because the intimacy dialects are older than the koine dialect.
From research, Yoruba language is a teacher's language in West Africa as well as in North Africa, during the antiquity.This language is well coded in Ifaodu, which has absolute traditions that's parallel with Abrahamic religion: Such as:

1.Mass Twin birth

2.Washing of bride's feet before entry into her groom's home

3.Levirate marriage

4.Circumcision of a child on the eight day

5.Sacrifices such as burnt offering as being,animals slaughtering, divination , etc being practise in Yoruba religion were documented to be found in Mesoptamia

6.Errection of Ivory or monument to symbolise something as found in Ancient Near East are aldo found in Yoruba traditions

7.Crowns found in Yoruba land are same or parallel with Near East's Crowns, patterned with diadem,eyes,rosset, king Solomon knot, metal helmets, fezlike cap, etc

8.Loom found in Yoruba culture as found in Northern Africa

9.Ceramic ,Terracotta Art work of Yoruba as found in Near East.

10. Structure built in Yoruba land are closely related or same with North Africa etc.

Apart from the above information, you can read more on the unclear area of Yoruba's language historicity as being wrongly classified from a renown scholar, Professor Isaac Adejoju Ogunbiyi; Professor of Islamic studies . This professor shows and supported Al Ilori , that Semitic (Arabic) root words and Yoruba lexicon developed concurrently. Plainly, the Yoruba language developed outside Africa.

Sammy07:
I concur

Yes Sir. And it is noteworthy to see good thread of this magnitude with juxtaposition of which group is the oldest in Nigeria.

Furthermore, Yoruba ethnic group is not the oldest in Nigeria or West Africa with glaring evidence of the Calvaria found in a burial site at Iwo Eleru. The Calvaria found does not not support Yoruba ethnic group because the Radiocarbon analysis of the charcoal found in the immediate vicinity of the burial was discovered to in an age estimated to be 11,200±200BP (~13ka calibrated).

While the Yoruba Calendar span from 3rd of the following year . According to the Niyi Alaran, who helped documented the oral account, mentioned that tje Gregorian year 2020 AD is the 10,062 year of Yoruba's knowledge of Calendar period. Obviously, the discovered bone does not match up with Yoruba's Calvaria.

More information on the Iwo Eleru bones, can be found on Google with screaming headline as , ‘ The Later Stone Age Calvaria from Iwo Eleru,Nigeria: Morphology.'

2prexios:
As Salam alaikum bro!



I think I got cognizant of what you mean by koine words this morning, while working out some biblical passages. Your inputs can be a bit confusing atimes because it's not yet vet.

I can relate, hence I often take great effort to sound clear, or else I will fall woefully to make the slightest sense I so want to make. This should butress your point on koine words.

As Salam alaikum

That's a Hebrew greeting adopted in Islamic salutations, now observe the concept of blessings in Yoruba: ibukun. This sounds Christian. It should rather be iwure or isure.

Then we can isolate ibukun and treat it as a modern word coined in the recent past, for the beatitude passages in the New testament. However, I think your Egyptian resources had busi as ibukun, for blessings, isn't it?

Now here's the link

Already, the Yoruba had "salamo" in their language, the koine ibukun is a double entry, a neo-double. The original version is a form of prayer, "alekun owo, alekun omo, alekun oun rere gbogbo".

Alaikum, alekun, "be upon": le kun, "above full", bu kun, "add to enough", le, "be upon", "extra", ele, "extra". Antonymous variant: alabuku, reproachful, reducing from the enough, deprivation, depraved.

Now ibusi is a round idea that's standby: the koine word ibukun behaves like a new word that by a stroke of luck falls into perfect sense of the idea implied by the Egyptian model, ibusi.

But it's not luck, it's key: like it's the way the algorithm will work if you have all the integer parts in place. We're in trouble because all the answers are not in one place.

You must find them before you are lucky. More grease to the right places bro.

Walakum Asalam.

The Salam or Shalom both have same root as far as the two words are from Semitic background. So my conclusion is that the meaning of the word in Hebrew is not what the interpreters got it from my perspective and other interpreters, who gave the meaning differently.

My take on Koine as highlighted by you is that the same way, Oyo's dialect and others are related is the same manner that Asiatic language and Semitic are related to Yoruba language that jn them, many synonymous cognates words exist in Yoruba language a d these Asiatic and Semitic language. Therefore, it wil be tactical to realise that word can either be picked, alongside co existing ethnic groups while migration take place,through any neighbouring ethnic group. And the Hebrew roots that each word be generated in Septuagint till it got to English are transliterated and translated even if not accurate.


Furthermore, my complexity isnot as hard to understand although, I try so much to minimise the transliteration and translation to the best of my knowledge but I give answers in a pattern, I expect anyone to decipher the answer or reply.


Lastly, the challenge to us all is that, one can have a form of knowledge of the Hebrew ancient language by, understanding the purpose of the language and speaker of it ,in present time,do exist as contrary to scholars, who don't know that

The words found in Hebrew language as deciphered by interpreters of the Hebrews ideograms exist in Yoruba's language; An ethnic group that presently live in West Africa.

Christistruth00:
It is Igbo but the Ife and Ijesha pronounced it Ugbo
For example some call Igbomina as Ugbomina but the Oyo standard Yoruba call them Igbomina.

Oyo dialect is not the only standard Yoruba because, every other dialects are also standard. Instead, kindly assert that the dialect remained the model for communication with non Yorubas.

2prexios:
Yeah I think I know a thing about the 13th tribe. But the Nazi regime of the WWII targeted a particular group for extinction, they were the Askenazi Jews.

They does have a footprint in the west from time, and record equally have it that the Jews were persecuted from time to time and had settled with the Iberia, Germany, Portugal, Austria and so on.

The fall of Jerusalem

Jewish dwindling enclaves of Palestine was destroyed by General Titus around 72 AD, the name of the place changed from idumea to Palestine in Roman records.

The name change is to completely obliterate Jewish nationalism and insubordination to the Roman empire. Then the Jewish stronghold became a ruinous heap, many fled to Egypt and to Europe and the Euphrates.

The Roman power choose Palestine (from Philistines), which were ancient enemy to the Jews. They had earlier adopted idumea, from Edom, but understood that the idumea where related to the Jews and were mere rivals.

12th century jewry

The European Jews couldn't own land, were not absorbed into European bloodlines because of their sense of loyalty to their religion and history. They were left to fend for themselves with other forms of portable wealth, such as usury.

The Jews were blamed for the bubonic plague of the Nostradamus time, easy to become victim of oppression for their religion and communal life build around Judaism during the middle ages.

20th century

The Jews had a portable home in their bible, and afterwards the wwwii, they had Aliyah, a return to Israel. And from the time till the present had to slug it out with the Arab inheritor of Palestine.

The Arab had through religion conquered many lands in the middle East, the land of Egypt is an Arabic outpost, Andalusia in Europe and as far as the ancient Babylon and Parsia.

Arab were the last conquerors of the Levant after the Romans, and at the conquest of the Holy land, the first calipha, Umar built a temple at the site that used to be King Solomon's, known as masjid qudus

Nasser was not particularly speaking for the black race, Egypt was equally as black as the Levant. It turn out his statement was two edged sword and propaganda at best.

Because Adolph Hitler thinks differently. And how many black people had ruled Egypt lately? Were the original Egyptian Arabians? That's food for thought. Where had the hammitic builders and rulers of Egypt gone?

If the people left as black and return white, how about the oriki Eletu Iwase that says "omo Oyinbo fo'ju orun s'ona"? Eletu Iwase were not whites (Oyinbo) amongst the Yoruba population either.

Most of all, the Yoruba were not Jews to me because that identity is not ours and should not be appropriated. Yes the Yoruba had heroes that were Jews (Obinrin Ojowu, Gbonka Ebiri, Ojo kure, iju-jew, isaga-Issachar), etc.

But the Yoruba were rather people with Hebrew origin and handful of other tribes relevant in the middle East at the time of their emigration. The making of Yoruba is the promise of God to the house of David fulfilled.

Yoruba history from Palestine dated much earlier than the period of the Jews but at the period of Israel as an empire. There are sharp contrast in this.

The Jews were last emigrants, while the Yoruba left the land much earlier. And that's when Israel (Iseri) was an empire. This period was before the Babylonian captivity. So the history is of different dispensations and direction.

Below are some cities in Yorubas Oral Memoir and Classic Hebrews

Aku: Name of Yoruba's ancestor.

Barkhou :Name of Hebrew ancestor, who lived in Egypt

Eda: Name to identify human being in Yoruba's language

Eda: Name used by Hebrews for them a people

Enyan/Eyan: Name used fo humans

Aryan: Name of a human Race in Near East

Elefon/Elufon: Name of a person and city

Elephantine: Name of a city in Lower Egypt

Falasa: Name of person

Falasa : Name of Hebrew group who lived in Abyssinia (Ethiopia)

Gberiko: Suburb

Jericho: Suburb

Ileonipole: Name of city in

Hellenpolis: Name of a place the Hebrew once lived in Egypt

Iseyen: Name of a city or Town

Seyen: Name of a city the Hebrews once lived in Egypt

Isoku/Isaku: Name of man and a city who was a pioneer ancestor of twin

Isaac: the Hebrews ancestor of twin

Usere/Iseri: Name of ancestor, city in Yoruba and as a people

Israel : Name of an ancestor of Hebrews, city and as a people

Ju/Iju: Name of people as a group,as interior land and a town or city

Jew: Name of people, town or city

Kanan: Same in unison or same as name of persons, place, animals , or things

Khanaan : Name of people as a united or synchronism

Katanga: A lopsided land which Yoruba people lived

Katunga: A land in Central Africa of Congo

N'ile: A lower land in Yoruba language

Nile: lower land in Egypt

Ninuife/Niliife: A place of ancient creation as acknowledged by Yorubas

Nineveh: A vast land in ancient Near East

Offa: A city in ancient Yoruba corpus

Jaffa: A land the hebrew lived in around the Sinai part that's is known to be borderline in Lower Egypt

Oramfe: Name of Yoruba ancestor

Aram:Name of a man who lived in Or (Oor) land in present day Iraqi land or related environment, called Mesopotamia

Ra: Name of land, person, light in Yoruba land

Ra: Name of a godman in Egypt and land in Egypt as well in Hebrew history

Oru: City in Yoruba land that was destroyed thousands of Years ago by water

Oor/Or: Mighty and industrial city that was destroyed by water in Near East

Mero: Name to identify people who does sorcery or mind readers

Meroe : Name of people in Ancient Egypt

Yebu/Jebus: Name of a city and Yoruba people

Yeb/Jebus: Name of extended Hebrews family members

With some form of research, information to the above names do have both true cognates and rare case of accidental cognates because 90% of these names are cities with descriptions. While the remaining are term for people or identity of a people as a nation .


Cheers

2prexios:
Yeah I think I know a thing about the 13th tribe. But the Nazi regime of the WWII targeted a particular group for extinction, they were the Askenazi Jews.

They does have a footprint in the west from time, and record equally have it that the Jews were persecuted from time to time and had settled with the Iberia, Germany, Portugal, Austria and so on.

The fall of Jerusalem

Jewish dwindling enclaves of Palestine was destroyed by General Titus around 72 AD, the name of the place changed from idumea to Palestine in Roman records.

The name change is to completely obliterate Jewish nationalism and insubordination to the Roman empire. Then the Jewish stronghold became a ruinous heap, many fled to Egypt and to Europe and the Euphrates.

The Roman power choose Palestine (from Philistines), which were ancient enemy to the Jews. They had earlier adopted idumea, from Edom, but understood that the idumea where related to the Jews and were mere rivals.

12th century jewry

The European Jews couldn't own land, were not absorbed into European bloodlines because of their sense of loyalty to their religion and history. They were left to fend for themselves with other forms of portable wealth, such as usury.

The Jews were blamed for the bubonic plague of the Nostradamus time, easy to become victim of oppression for their religion and communal life build around Judaism during the middle ages.

20th century

The Jews had a portable home in their bible, and afterwards the wwwii, they had Aliyah, a return to Israel. And from the time till the present had to slug it out with the Arab inheritor of Palestine.

The Arab had through religion conquered many lands in the middle East, the land of Egypt is an Arabic outpost, Andalusia in Europe and as far as the ancient Babylon and Parsia.

Arab were the last conquerors of the Levant after the Romans, and at the conquest of the Holy land, the first calipha, Umar built a temple at the site that used to be King Solomon's, known as masjid qudus

Nasser was not particularly speaking for the black race, Egypt was equally as black as the Levant. It turn out his statement was two edged sword and propaganda at best.

Because Adolph Hitler thinks differently. And how many black people had ruled Egypt lately? Were the original Egyptian Arabians? That's food for thought. Where had the hammitic builders and rulers of Egypt gone?

If the people left as black and return white, how about the oriki Eletu Iwase that says "omo Oyinbo fo'ju orun s'ona"? Eletu Iwase were not whites (Oyinbo) amongst the Yoruba population either.

Most of all, the Yoruba were not Jews to me because that identity is not ours and should not be appropriated. Yes the Yoruba had heroes that were Jews (Obinrin Ojowu, Gbonka Ebiri, Ojo kure, iju-jew, isaga-Issachar), etc.

But the Yoruba were rather people with Hebrew origin and handful of other tribes relevant in the middle East at the time of their emigration. The making of Yoruba is the promise of God to the house of David fulfilled.

Yoruba history from Palestine dated much earlier than the period of the Jews but at the period of Israel as an empire. There are sharp contrast in this.

The Jews were last emigrants, while the Yoruba left the land much earlier. And that's when Israel (Iseri) was an empire. This period was before the Babylonian captivity. So the history is of different dispensations and direction.

Idu took over the lamd

Olu317:
Ba mi, there are different books,written to these information. But in Nigeria, one eyed man is King,is the reason for this comatose. Little do people like Macof, realise, there are Akkadian language, Ugaritic,Ethiopian etc languages that have same cognates, that aren't a corrupt form of Yoruba's language.

In a nutshell,Yoruba language, developed outside Africa and facts are there to be seen Below is one book called Kings and code that mentioned Hebrews crowns. These words are often slightly corrupted in some cases.

Idumea took over the land of Israel thousands of years after the second conquest. In fact, the king who lived during the time of Yeshua was an idumean because Daoodu(David ) and Crown had been taken to Egypt, around 500BC that the Hebrew had no King in Israel.

This particular information, is well documented in the Anus of the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians,.Greeks Egyptians account. So, the history of Yorubas or Hebrews in Africa is authentic and uniqueness. Furthermore, there are books, written about Nebuchadnezzar and his boastness, which had been translated by some well renowned scholars.

2prexios:
Great piece there bro.

Do you have excerpts from the book?

Thanks for the insight.

Ba mi, there are different books,written to these information. But in Nigeria, one eyed man is King,is the reason for this comatose. Little do people like Macof, realise, there are Akkadian language, Ugaritic,Ethiopian etc languages that have same cognates, that aren't a corrupt form of Yoruba's language.

In a nutshell,Yoruba language, developed outside Africa and facts are there to be seen Below is one book called Kings and code that mentioned Hebrews crowns. These words are often slightly corrupted in some cases.

2prexios:
Great piece there bro.

Do you have excerpts from the book?

Thanks for the insight.

Ba mi, there are different books,written to these information. But in Nigeria, one eyed man is King,is the reason for this comatose.

Little do people like Macof, realise, there are Akkadian language, Ugaritic,Ethiopian etc languages that have same cognates, that aren't a corrupt form of Yoruba's language. In effect,Yoruba language, developed outside Africa. Below is one book called Kings and code that mentioned Hebrews crowns. These words are often slightly corrupted in some cases.

macof:
When you become useful reach out to me. I can't take a fool seriously, especially not one who has no background in any academic field calling those who spend years working in academics names

Thank God , you have nothing to explain to your poor readers , instead, the well known vulgar words usage as usual by you is your footprint that you taught some of us. Evil man has no place of rest!

Interestingly, you're mocked by many because I await your nonsensical theories and poorly overridden pseudo information that your fans will acknowledged tha God in Hebrrew and Yoruba ancestors are the people from Near East ,whose history is written in the Bible.

So, be ready for these information in years to come because truth is bitter. And it is my candid believe by God's grace that more information await your subdued information that has no basis in world's history and your decayed background as false historian.

Below is a screenshot of boa (bowa) known in Hebrew ideograms as following :
Bet+ waw + aleph, which means ,‘ Come' in classic Hebrew ,that is the same as in Yoruba language known as Bo or bowa or boà( to return or, come ) in Yoruba language!





Cheers.

macof:
The only thing you know is bible (which is a poor source of historical education) . If you like try to Black wash the bible it does not stop it from being foreign to your true African ancestors
Lol. The inconsistency here is actually laughable. You don't want to be black unless the Hebrews are black
Damn. A fully colonised and abrahamised African who can only see good in himself if he deludes and deceives himself to have Hebrew ancestors

You are free to adopt Hebrews as your people. You have obviously been spiritually and mentally separated from the Yoruba Africanness


Even in your Bible the Hebrews were clear that Africans (codename Ethiopians in English translations but "Cushite" or "Hamite" in Hebrew) looked nothing like them.
To them Africans (Hamite) are cursed and these are the people you admire, worship and want to be?

You are a disgrace to the Yoruba. Better to start relocating to your true home in Israel where you can be happy

Just imaging, ‘ To them Africans (hamite) are cursed' You are even worse than greyboy! Go and read about the Bible from the critics who studied the biblical history. No wonder you lacked the pedigree to differentiate beween Ibo's otutu and Yoruba's wuro,aro oro,auro, euro ,which is ; morning, sunlight of the day in both languages. This your poor knowledge can't understand how these root came to be from the formation from Waw+ Resh as explained, below

Waw; w,o,u,
Resh: Rii/R

This alone has shown you're simply finished and empty because you have no clue nor books to make as reference to support your baseless views. So, stop being backward and uneducated by reading books to know more than you have at hand.

Obalufon:
The Jews you have in Israel now are not jew they are impostors ,they are just practicing Abrahamic religion The jew flee to Africa not Europe or east

Ba mi, if we disregard the white jews,then the point of Yoruba's ancestors God is not achieved. Plainly, the Jews fled to all part of the world to fulfil, the promise of God. The hieroglyphs, pictographs, Semitic writings, Babylonian writings, Greek, Roman writing assert these information to be so true.

After all, Yoruba claimed that their ancestors were the father of the world,in the same way the white Jews stated as same. Yet the language spoken was documented and interpreted by Greek, Persians, Egyptians, Latin,-Roman/English language etc respectively. These people works has given me fhe knowledge of God from Semitic writings which is the writing on Opa Oramiyah.

Believe me, you will be amazed at the places the Yoruba language will be spoken in the future,which is evidence to show that Yoruba ancestors were the masters of so many things and the throne of Daodu(odudu Iwa),that's forever is in Ileife, in Yoruba land, who is the chosen of God from house of a people in same Yoruba land.

Futhrmore, don't forget the fact, that ,you being someone with the knowledge of Ifaodu, know that Afin-Caucasians; dark skin ,light skin (Oyinbo or half caste or people with dark skin with curly hair ) and Adu lawo(people with straight hair ) are the people who populated the world at a time before dispersion from same place to another places as wandering around before settlement.


Cheers.

2prexios:
Bro, I believe that the bolded is the message you mean to pass across, but it's chauvinistic and I understands, try understand my perspectives from this little piece I wrote here, cheers.

Our neighbors are our neighbors for a reason. You may not have them in your good book, but we can't change the family we were born. I don't buy the kwa or Niger Congo origin, but I understand this folks are related to us originally.

I am not desperate to be separated from the same folks, nor overstretching the Hebrew connection for anything beyond scholarship. If care is not taken, we will come short of the goal we might be pursuing via politics.

Histopolitics

Histopolitics is trying to do politics with History, sever our relationship with our neighbors because we want to come out superior alluding to some foreign country, eg middle East.

And that's something good about macof. He's playing an opposite card of the same politics, garnished with sociological appeals here and there. In a nutshell, sever attachment or attention to the middle East and focus on West Africa.

You are equally playing the opposite of that card bro, selectively for the Yoruba, and I will encourage you do a thin slicing of my input on it.

1) Our connection with our neighbors is not from a lingual Franca level alone if such was true to some extent. It's rather from inception. I may not have won your confidence in my interpretations but I am confident of my own inputs.

2) Don't fight off others with what you might have found. You never found those things out to berate anyone I should expect. And don't just conclude yet because you don't have all the answers in one place.

3) Some answers are in Yoruba, some in Igbo and some Fon, Edo, Calabar, etc. History is history, not politics and History, not histopolitics, not sociology, not linguistics, history is a study on it's own. It's not often a prospect for nice outcome.

4) But most of all, history is the study of human relationships. That's my definition, and that's my guiding principle as well. I'm not working on some mutually exclusive outcome. We're to follow the ancient landmarks.

5) Trying to please everyone is a delusion, but a section of the whole is Yoruba to me. And Yoruba is not the whole in whole but a root of a branch and whole in itself. Let's see:

Orunmila baba agbon mi r'egun... that's Egun.

Ifa karele, omo eranko siiri tii y'ode loko, omo fofo tii fo didun l'egun... that's another Egun for you. Ifa didn't live in the recent past but trace back to antiquity. Thus the sentence is as old.

Fon in Yoruba is the transitive form for ofon: Egun tio jale oju nii ro, Ibadan tio jale oju nii ro. Ji, meaning wake up in Yoruba means Fon in Fon.

Obalufon, Obaluaye: efon alaaye, the Fon in Aye's territory. What I expected to find in efon alaaye story to confirm my connection is that there was a fight, a woman was involved, they have a connection with Obalufon etc.

My take: all things being equal, agbomiregun is identical with Obalufon. Agba omo Iran Egun, Oba ilu Fon. He may not have exercise political leadership on the connotes, but was their designated head at some point.

I'm not patronizing Egun, I am from the littoral part of the Yoruba country on the southwestern axis and we don't discriminate against our neighbors whom we see as speaking a different languages than ours.

The same can't be true for someone from the hinterlands southeast of the Yoruba. We will definitely see things differently. I respect that difference because no one is all knowing, except God.

Apart from the fact, that I chose Yoruba's identity which is the purpose of this beautiful thread that's borne out of antiquity's identity, which I am familiar with, which, I don't have any issue with connection of Egun or Fon etc as a people. So, even if you're not patronising these people, it is wrong because, I am familiar with the fact, Yoruba ancestors remained the people that populated the world after the destruction that emerged in Oru,as remembered in Yoruba oral account.

Although, the word in Yoruba's language's word for Fon may or not be accurate as the term for speak,speech, etc in Ifaodu or Yoruba is wrriten which is different from how it is pronounced because this word which is in dialects of all in Yoruba land is transliterated as in ‘Fòr' which means speech,speak etc as we all are aware. And rightly as you had opined that to satisfy everyone is mission in futility .So keep to what you stand by . But with information before me,which I have not decrypted if there was any link to a woman that's connected to Obatala because I can assert here that makim (malkm) tseala(tala),Taræh/ Ti-Are/Si Are/ZAre ( crown and kings) existed in Near East in Ancient time with inscription and that Obatse ala is not related to him because he was an ammonite king. The Bible has some great information as a book of both literature and spiritual.

Thirdly, the territorial conquest and subjugation was what King Daoudu, Dawaodu etc a.k.a Odudu-Iwa that he defeated these two mighty Kings, which one is related to him and the other is a disant king who he fought and seized the ctown. Interestingly these two warriors fought against O dudu Iwa—Daoudu ,in which he defeated both.

Orunmiela as a man never as a man which is due the personality of this powerful God remained to be in Semitic inscription. The name is wrriten as Eremiah or Yeremiah(Jeremiah in English ) interpretation from Greek writings that was got from the written Hebrew and Aramaic related language. So,I am familiar with the personality of Oramiela or Orummiela as a one's creator,who is different from a man who lived less than 1200 years ago because he fought King priest, Oramiyah O dede when he had issue with Oramiyah.

As a matter of fact the course of his migration pinned the reason for establishment of names, such as Efon Alaaye, Oba lufon-Lufor , while his name was given as Ataiyeshe bi Igba or something close to that name. In fact, obalufon on this forum is his descendant as you're too.And he is familiar with his history.

With due respect to you my dear bro, I am honestly asserting here that I have no authority over you or your view and evidence before you but when we are with a superior fact, let us move on to discover, new information and not merry going around. Kindly read, ‘Kings and Crown; page.' Belive me, you will be shocked to reaad names of an Amon king. Below is a screenshot of white caps worn by Yoruba high chiefs (lower kings), in Yoruba land and same cognate with Amonnite king's cap in ancient Semitic times and vast Land .


Cheers.

2prexios:
Bro, I believe that the bolded is the message you mean to pass across, but it's chauvinistic and I understands, try understand my perspectives from this little piece I wrote here, cheers.

Our neighbors are our neighbors for a reason. You may not have them in your good book, but we can't change the family we were born. I don't buy the kwa or Niger Congo origin, but I understand this folks are related to us originally.

I am not desperate to be separated from the same folks, nor overstretching the Hebrew connection for anything beyond scholarship. If care is not taken, we will come short of the goal we might be pursuing via politics.

Histopolitics

Histopolitics is trying to do politics with History, sever our relationship with our neighbors because we want to come out superior alluding to some foreign country, eg middle East.

And that's something good about macof. He's playing an opposite card of the same politics, garnished with sociological appeals here and there. In a nutshell, sever attachment or attention to the middle East and focus on West Africa.

You are equally playing the opposite of that card bro, selectively for the Yoruba, and I will encourage you do a thin slicing of my input on it.

1) Our connection with our neighbors is not from a lingual Franca level alone if such was true to some extent. It's rather from inception. I may not have won your confidence in my interpretations but I am confident of my own inputs.

2) Don't fight off others with what you might have found. You never found those things out to berate anyone I should expect. And don't just conclude yet because you don't have all the answers in one place.

3) Some answers are in Yoruba, some in Igbo and some Fon, Edo, Calabar, etc. History is history, not politics and History, not histopolitics, not sociology, not linguistics, history is a study on it's own. It's not often a prospect for nice outcome.

4) But most of all, history is the study of human relationships. That's my definition, and that's my guiding principle as well. I'm not working on some mutually exclusive outcome. We're to follow the ancient landmarks.

5) Trying to please everyone is a delusion, but a section of the whole is Yoruba to me. And Yoruba is not the whole in whole but a root of a branch and whole in itself. Let's see:

Orunmila baba agbon mi r'egun... that's Egun.

Ifa karele, omo eranko siiri tii y'ode loko, omo fofo tii fo didun l'egun... that's another Egun for you. Ifa didn't live in the recent past but trace back to antiquity. Thus the sentence is as old.

Fon in Yoruba is the transitive form for ofon: Egun tio jale oju nii ro, Ibadan tio jale oju nii ro. Ji, meaning wake up in Yoruba means Fon in Fon.

Obalufon, Obaluaye: efon alaaye, the Fon in Aye's territory. What I expected to find in efon alaaye story to confirm my connection is that there was a fight, a woman was involved, they have a connection with Obalufon etc.

My take: all things being equal, agbomiregun is identical with Obalufon. Agba omo Iran Egun, Oba ilu Fon. He may not have exercise political leadership on the connotes, but was their designated head at some point.

I'm not patronizing Egun, I am from the littoral part of the Yoruba country on the southwestern axis and we don't discriminate against our neighbors whom we see as speaking a different languages than ours.

The same can't be true for someone from the hinterlands southeast of the Yoruba. We will definitely see things differently. I respect that difference because no one is all knowing, except God.

Apart from the fact, that I chose Yoruba's identity which is the purpose of this beautiful thread that's borne out of antiquity's identity, which I am familiar with, which, I don't have any issue with connection of Egun or Fon etc as a people. So, even if you're not patronising these people, it is wrong because, I am familiar with the fact, Yoruba ancestors remained the people that populated the world after the destruction that emerged in Oru,as remembered in Yoruba oral account.

Although, the word in Yoruba's language's word for Fon may or not be accurate as the term for speak,speech, etc in Ifaodu or Yoruba is wrriten which is different from how it is pronounced because this word which is in dialects of in all Yoruba land is transliterated as in ‘Fòr' which means speech,speak etc. And rightly as you have opined that to satisfy everyone is mission in futile.So keep to what you stand by .

With information before me, I have not decrypted if there was any link to a woman that's connected to Obatala because I can assert here that, Oba makim and Ade Ti-Are/Si Are/Z Are existed in Near East in Ancient time with semitic classic inscription and that Obatse ala is not related to him because he was an ammonite king.

Thirdly, the territorial conquest and subjugation was what King Daoudu, Dawaodu etc a.k.a Odudu-Iwa that he defeated these two mighty Kings, which one is related to him and the other is a disant king who he fought and seized the ctown. Interestingly these two warriors fought against O dudu Iwa—Daoudu ,in which he defeated both.

Orunmiela as a man never as a man which is due the personality of this powerful God remained to be in Semitic inscription. The name is wrriten as Eremiah or Yeremiah(Jeremiah in English ) interpretation from Greek writings that was got from the written Hebrew and Aramaic related language. So,I am familiar with the personality of Oramiela or Orummiela as a one's creator,who is different from a man who lived less than 1200 years ago because he fought King priest, Oramiyah O dede when he had issue with Oramiyah.

As a matter of fact the course of his migration pinned the reason for establishment of names, such as Efon Alaaye, Oba lufon-Lufor , while his name was given as Ataiyeshe bi Igba or something close to that name. In fact, obalufon on this forum is his descendant as you're too.And he is familiar with his history.

With due respect to you my dear bro, I am honestly asserting here that I have no authority over you or your view and evidence before you but when we are with a superior fact, let us move on to discover, new information and not merry going around. Kindly read, ‘Kings and Crown; page.' Belive me, you will be shocked to reaad names of an Amon king. Below is a screenshot of white caps worn by Yoruba high chiefs (lower kings), in Yoruba land and same cognates with Amon king's cap.

2prexios:
There was a time that the Yoruba had a connection with the Celtics, the earliest inhabitants of England in the Roman era.

So several of the Yoruba/English cognates might be from this source and not to exclude the Anglo Saxon axis either. Languages travel with emigrants.

The point of contact is explored in the link I have on my signature or dp. Facts have a good route of connection.

But to authenticate originality will be a difficult task in some cases. Like the idea I've shared here at some point about upstairs, petesi and petrezin.

English: upstairs
Yoruba: petesi
Egun: petrezin

Petesi feels odd in Yoruba to my hearing and expectations of the usual nuances of the Yoruba language. Because if it's an ancient word, it would connect to one ancient mind or the other.

Then grandpa had an upstairs that my folks called "petrezin ji aga", meaning upstairs on top high. So, the true word should be aga, akin to Aja in Yoruba. That's the ancient mind connection.

My repulsion for the petesi as a borrowed word first stems from petrezin: azìn in Egun is eyin in Yoruba, egg, but azín means groundnut.

I wonder what the connection between the egg could be with an upstairs, and the subconscious connected it to the Yoruba petesi. And that settles the confusion.

However, I can't say if that's what all the Egun call the upstairs, because it could be my folks who have loaned the word because it's (upstairs) in their possession.

But again, if not, they should have an indeginous word for the same idea from their cultural experience and past examples So, my source have a way of validating itself.

How about the Yoruba petesi? PTS, UP STAIR S.

The Yoruba had loaned the word descreetly, (afetiya) that a Yoruba man that cannot trace anything beyond the recent past would argue it's a Yoruba word.

We can see how the word was borrowed, and how someone else borrowed a borrowed language and it ended up sitting well in their language petre-zin.

Had it been I know of an animal called petre in that language, would have assume it's a name derived from some myth.

Moni and money

Baba, akiitori awijare, kito o tan lenu, toto o se biowe. Awon oro mii wa to fara pera, tojepe taa ba se aayan lori won o le ni itunmo. Sugbon atun gbodo wo saakun oro oun, boya o se regi pelu itan bi ati tan tabi bi ede to tan.

To ba wa se regi, o doni peki niyen. Oun to tiya kan kii tun pemo, oro to dani loju kii kose lete eni. Ju gbogbo re lo, gbogbo aso ko laasa loorun. Eje kafise onipele ipele. Ipele kinni, keji, keta abbl.

Ibadara, kafi awon oro to lapere se edidi fun gbogbo iwadi wa na, boya oro le sun kan awon onipele keji bi ti akole eka ti e menu ba loke ti mo ta ni koko ninu atejade yi lojo 'waju. Oromborobo...

Money,in English language is a legal tender, which is borrowed from Classic Hebrew's language. While the analysis you used in Yoruba language is not classic Yoruba but modern from 19th century. If you use your dialect or other Yoruba dialects ,it will serve the point you buttress. Thus, using Christan missionaries deception of Koine word that's influenced via Oyo's is a disguise because, it won't serve the purpose it ought. For instance,

English language: I go/ am going to my base/foundation or hometown etc

Koine : mo lo ilu m abi/tabi mo lo/re ile m( these are correct also)

Older dialects: me lo ode m abi me ju ode m( me ju' de m) abi me re ode m , (me re' de m), me lo ilu m . You can add more if you have knowledge of other dialects to see my point.

English language : I go/going to my base/foundation(hometown)

Obviously, these dialects are same but slightly different from koine Yoruba words which mean: outside, party, base , foundation, that is used generally as amongst Yoruba language . As a.matter of fact ,this dialect is akin to be more of Aramic that is used as lingua franca which late found itself in Egypt in Africa,from the perspective I see it because some words are stretched out of its original form which makes it not compatible with all Yoruba dailects to certain degree but older dialects cut accross in speakers of Yoruba dialects.

Lastly, Egun is not closer to Yoruba linguistically more than Hausa, Ibo, Tapa, Borgu, etc because of the contact via Northern Yoruba groups and Edo link to the south Southern Nigeria. Yoruba language, is a lingual Franca in all these communities due to certain, degree of living together and trade ,because in linguistic, once there is a contact between two groups, there is bound to be environmental influences on contact languages.




Cbeers

MetaPhysical:
Look in Yoruba's Esin (worship) for the cognate in Sin (astray).

I found, in decryptying Yoruba words with its foreign cognates, that the principle of paradox is enabled.

I wonder if its deliberate in our ancestors or if the foreign culture inverted the meaning on purpose.

Although E si/ E sin do slightly pass for 'astray', ‘follow' etc, if one consider the pattern the language followed from its foundation. The late entry Yoruba usage of using Vowel as a verb (to be) is the reason, it seemingly look as if principle of paradox which exist. As far as I am concern the Yoruba language had and has extremely low rate of foreign influence except amongst the same place where the language actually developed, which is Oru in Yorubas Oral tradition and Urru/ Or/ Ur, in Southern Arabia land of Mesapotemia. While the binding Ritual language in Ifaodu sustained this very Yoruba language.

Nevertheless, Yoruba language is same as many others in the world as regard the continous development of the language while in contact with others ,which make it interaction with others to be slightly influenced but amazingly, due stylish pattern of interaction with their own God, the Yoruba language is one of the teachers language in Mesopotamia, Egypt, West Africa because, many cognates words cut across these lands , despite the fact that thoussands of miles apaart with some, others are neighboring groups, which make these learners language have loaned words and became cognates with Yoruba's language and vize versa.

With due respect, to Yoruba language translators to Latin-Roman orthography, but who do not realise, that the major differences is the pattern of usage of Yoruba language through Homonym and Synonym of many words in Yoruba language, which doesn't exist in all these learners languages . For instance, in the Myth of Ife, Ubo or Ibo is a word written down by the writer for raffia, bush or marauders, that were threatening Ileife people's peace via kidnapping,maiming, etc and not Igbo as being used in today's world. Another example is Eshu that is seen as devil in today's world through the Ignorance of many, especially through Christian missionaries that misunderstood the term Eshu(Yeshu-Yeshua) because traditional societies such as Osanyi, Obatala, Agemo, Elu orogbo, Ogboni etc ,didnt open up certain information to the outside world.

Furthermore, the ‘Gb' alphabet ‘may' not be a foundational alphabet from what I suspect because this term has no trace in Arabic lexicon or Hebrew ,though it has linked to Egyptians term, according to Professor Ogunbiyi( Yoruba Orthography), while he tries to understand the Aljami- Ajami Arabic writers amongst the Yorubas. Although this does not mean, if I see a superior evidence to the Gb sound or alphabet's existence in Hebrews alphabets,I wouldnt disagree with because I suspect it exist on other part ,since two ‘Ghah' exist, which one is represented with a picture of ‘eye', and the other Ghah is represented with a picture of wreath or rope, which makes it to be twice written in Classic Hebrew,according to the interpreters who wrote the modern Roman alphabets through Ideograms that are from foundation. My suspicion is on the second Ghah sound (wreath or rope ,which may mean Gb ; insert into the ground), which may be as a result of contact with Egyptians, in the later entrance to Nile Land.




Cheers

macof:
stop mentioning me until you heal yourself from your state of anti African self hate and middle eastern ass licking

Lol . Truth is bitter because, you can't understand it. Accept the truth and desist from such notion and stop being trickish. Even Past Oonis have made their clear stance on humanity as originating from Ileife/ninuife and known as Nineveh in Western World. In effect, the bone of contention of authenticity of Sultan Muhammad Bello information that, mentioned Masar, which is Egypt, Habsa which s Abbyssia ( Ethiopia) as the road that Yoruba's ancestors migrated through is authentic. Afterwards, this same thing happened with Yoruba people desertion of Old Oyo and went into Nikki and Borgu kingdom's territory to spend over 100 years( a century),around 16th century before retaking her kingdom back around Middle 17th century that later became an Empire.

This is the point that showcase Yoruba ancestors didn't hate anyone but showcase that Almighty God Elu Iwa is her's and that all humanity are from same source. So, stop pushing blame wrongly because you're the one that dwell and dine with hatred. After all, you hardly agree with anything or both men and women who have written books on Yoruba history, even if few of these people were traditional initiated into Yoruba's traditional association .

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macof:
If you cannot be proud and loyal to the yoruba because you think African people are "bunch of uncivilised naked people" then you are not useful to the yoruba nation, you are of greater use to the arabs and jews since those are the people you admire and prefer
You do not deny your parents because of whatever problem you have with your cousins and start claiming to be the son of someone else. That is the attitude of a bastard and i am sure you know that

And just to mention.... African people are not a bunch of uncivilised naked people. All africans are great people and we have every reason to be proud of our africanness. The Hebrews you admire had no great civilization but they remained proud and faithful to their heritage. Pride and Self esteem uplifts nations

We are well informed with the fact, that not all Africans were naked when in contacts with other groups because same existed everywhere at one time in the world.

Infact, Arab world made one of the finest stylish clothing design, which was and known as Arabian baggie.So, we aren't over emphasising bareness, where civilization didn't exist until later contact with others.Thus, it is no news in world's history on ‘clothing'. But does this make Yoruba original home in Africa continent without proof either through dna or linguistic connection ? In the the book : ‘ Lost Tribe of Israel' by Dierk Lange; he showed the patterns of migration of Yoruba ancestors from Near East through , North Africa, such, Morocco, Egypt to West Africa, that support oral account of Or; ur ; Oru, in Near East for you people to see. But instead, you claimed Oral account is false and incorrect and that ,the erudite Professor Dierk Lange on History is not correct but you are correct on Yoruba history ? I wonder who need take you seriously? Non among world scholar I affirm because Yoruba footprint is only established in 10th century AD .

Severally, I have mentioned before now tat you lacked both Western Education and Traditional knowledge on Yoruba people's history, which ought be contrary to wjat you claimed you studied because you are a brainwashed man by your own references , which has always made it clear that IleIfe Nigeria was a Cosmopolitan and has moved several times that's more than six times Lol

Honest, if I say you're ignorant beyond repair, it is because since you dont even understand purpose of root word as a form of deciphered Ideograms, in Y. R . B which sheepishly accept as Yoruba identity, then your scholarly claim is with ernomous flaws.Even your so called non existence believers who read on this platform can't decipher, the accurate word that I had posted earlier for you people to see. No wonder, your ignorance is greater that the same Arabic oriented term which is what you still called the people you claimed to be part of .Yet you rejected any knowledge of , Yoruba's traditions that said, Caucasians are part of their lineage as well as many others groups. Mu², go ask what is called Iru risha( god's hair in Yoruba's tradition if it is a black man hair ?. Thereafter, go read how people became Caucasian?

Furthermore, Ahmed Buba is well known on Africas account from North Africa, Songhai's IFE's kings its people, way of life etc by both promiment Yorubas and non Yorubas scholars on Yoruba's history but here you are claiming Arabs, Hebrews, Berbers, Phonecians didnt exist in West Afriac or in Yoruba land but Pygmy's or Kwa related groups, existed alongside Yoruba's ?

The Yorubapeople whose languages adopted Yoruba's lexicon from it reestablishment in Egypt from 4th century BC ! that, you know because you are a Lazy man to read . Instead, of you to beg Me to learn the hebrew knowledge, that you seek through surfing the wrong places online zealously, by pretence and diversionary provocative vulgar term usage, that sold you out as a pseudo scholar.

These attitude of yours has made me your nemesis because you ACCEPTED the same Arabic oriented word, YORUBA-YARBA-Yoruba ,without historicity on the derivative of the Root word ; Y R B , which is contrary to your claim and name associated with authority on Yoruba's people's history due to your ignorance as I had posted earlier for you and likes to see and decipher the real word and its meaning which was used and is a corrupt form of Oranmiyah's ancestors totem. I have given you the clue on one of Yoruba's king Totem of O dud and descendants Lobatan! Mr. Yoruba Macof.