₦airaland Forum

0balufonlll:
1. There’s no compound under Giesi called ‘Agbedebede Oyinbo’. I am not going to post any detailed information further. I now see you rely on me to feed your nonsense then you turn around & claim them. Your imagination better be up & running now. . Mr. Agbedegbede Bobrisky.

2. LOL what people? Is your Luusi, your surname or your compound name included in the list? Uncle oni kati kati.

You still haven’t posted the pages of that book to prove you have it & that I was indeed begging you . Mr. Ole oniro - you stole & twisted Ogunwusi’s oriki then stole & twisted a page I uploaded as yours - meanwhile you do not have the book, do not know the author’s name & book title, never touched or seen the book before but you claim I was begging you for it. Aye oniro l’ode. What else are you finna steal & twist?

Mr, Know it all, if I am false www.ekitistate.gov.ng won't have her own version... Laughing hysterically at you

Below is part of Usi Ekiti history

The history of Usi is inconclusive in this place because they were error in his migration account and father's name which was due that isn't lafogido but sooo ....
So also error exist in the Ilorin period which was a different period all together but from that area migrations took place again, which Ifa dictates mandated the leader of the migration party.

Usi-Ekiti originated from Ile-Ife. The time of their departure from Ile-Ife falls within pre-history times since there were no written records. Historians depend on legends as their source of history of these times. According to legend, the progenitor of Usi people, Prince Usikorode, approached his father, Lafogido, the then reigning Ooni for his blessing as he and his follower prepared to leave Ile-Ife to found his own kingdom, just as his brother Princes had done. Lafogido gave him his blessing and in addition gave him the following paraphenalia of royalty – a beaded crown, a beaded walking stick, beaded horse tail, a sword, a brass cup and a piece of cloth which would be spread on his throne whenever he finally settled.
Usikorode left Ile-Ife with many followers were bent on carving a kingdom in a hilther to unoccupied land. The journey took them to parts of Ijesaland, particularly Imesi Ile and Ibokun where till this day, there exist similarities in the worship of certain deities in Usi, Imesi Ile and Obokun.
The migration of Usikorode and his party took a long time. Sometimes they kept up to a year or more in certain locations. According to the legend, the party moved on to parts of Igbomina staying for some time at Aran Orin. On leaving Aran-Orin, some of the inhabitants followed Usikorode and his party.Today at Usi, Egun-Elefon is said to have been brought from Aran-Orin.
Usikorode and his party continued their journey of migration passing through Otun and parts of Moba until finally they settled at Ipole on Usi/Ayetoro road and about two kilometers from the present site.
At Ipole, the people settled to do farming, blacksmithing, weaving, basket making, pot making and dyeing by the women........
Important location during sojourn are not consecutive manner according to the chronicles .They are :
Ipole
Aran Orin
Ikole
ikere
Imesi
Ijesaland etc

Did I posted the Usi Ekiti account on Ekiti web link?
Stop making mockery of the history knowledge you have acquired, because you still need more acquisition .. Mind you Luusi's crown and buried body isn't in Usi Ekiti... .....Deal with it

Learn, you will not learn... Between migration of one of his son did se oko Ekiti se oko Akoko manifested. So can you see who LAADE is ? some children moved between ILE IFE and their new found location, depending on IFA dictates. So the error is corrected in the spot where Luusi's body is laid to rest...

Furthermore, Laade is a contraction of........ .
Neednt say it anymore....

Better get a book on Usi History.

AUTHOR/CREATOR
Oluyemi, J. A., author.

*Did I also say to the author to write Usi history? *


Au revoir

0balufonlll:
Man, kati kati as usual.

We have heard your online claims, now prove it in person & come here. I swear, I go personally pen apology to you & stay away from any topics you post on NL. Abeg, just enter Ife with all of these your claims.

I have made my stand known as usual.. I don't need to engage you anymore because you are watery..A name with no meaning can't appear in Agbededegbe and others lineage, would it? Have you forgotten you said categorically that agbededegbe isn't with epitheth 'Oyinbo?'

Mr, I don't have your strength of lying competition...... After all, the oriki says, the people with these oriki are of the same ancestry..... Are you blind to see? Truth has been established.... So continue but I won't because you are pained....

0balufonlll:
LOL omo .

Are you bi-polar or something? You won’t use gutter terms but you have laid curses on yourself & probably gotten yourself into more than you can handle.

Can everyone see the exact stuff Olu is doing? Taking everything & giving them is own meaning. .

Please post more pages from that book so we know you have it. Is your camera that poor, why are the images of the book blurry? .





Ogunwusi’s oriki is not the same as Giesi’s Oriki. Ogunwusi’s oriki is can not be Giesi’s oriki while Giesi’s oriki can be Ogunwusi’s oriki.

That emboldened line is nothing but Ayikiti’s exploits with a descendant of Luusi who is likely Ajamaye whom you said fought in Ife/Modakeke’s phase of Ekitiparapo wars.

Take out Ayikiti from the the two lines & your Luusi’s claim will be useless.

Obviously, you did school politics few years ago in your university days during your first degree program because you are a propagandist... But where exactly did I mention Ogunwusi oriki is older than Giesi? Go pick up shade to see clearly! Meanwhile, you childish fail to think,after each personality is mentioned as ancestors, the next thing for you to do as a scholar is to understand that part of the oriki of that same personality continues to further reenact his prowess,which is to establish the reigning king's ancestors weight ..So learn young man

Either Ayikiti exploit or not, Ogun isn't Ayikiti's name but ancestral warrior's lineage name who was of a mighty exploit in war, which is significant with all Yorubas and the one's who are descendants of Odu'a -Ogun themselves. Thus, meant to show the reflection of his ancestors through his ancestor's name. So study your history from different places and people that had knowledge of Ogun as a man in Yoruba history. Ogun history is incomplete without this.

Teaching you how to to do it ehn ? Just as you used kangaroo approach, to ignorantly blundered on the personality of Ooni's ancestors oriki.... Go through and learn the importance of Luusi in Lajamisan descendants. As you have started you will get to the beginning of his migration Out of ILEIFE through the places he lived temporarily to the place where Luusi bones is laid to rest, his sword,Regalia etc But his descendants are in all places including ILEIFE through their movement back and forth to their ancestral home.

As an expert you are, what does this mean in the oriki? Kindly compare vigorously

Proper
1. Mo nlo nre igbode Omo Luusi Omo arugbo-ile igbode abika lorun Omo o fose foso, komo Olominrin feeru fo Omo oke mo ri tikun aya sile. Omo afinju oloja mo ledena meji Omo afinju oloja mo re pole owu.

2. mo re igbode Omo igun la gba Omo igun la je Omo igun kogokogo lorule Igun ile rin-in gbebo Akalamagbo ile rin gbo eru titu Bi ‘ha je tan mun tan Han moke ikole gun Mosi ikole

*(Original Igbode Luusi, was in Ikolè axis, which was known as Ahoro/Ihoro Luusi nd not Usi Ekiti )

Question
Who is the personality being referred as‘ mo re igbode omo igun?'

Trust me, you are far......... Olorungbo! If you doubt break this epitheth if such scenario took place in ULEIFE.

0balufonlll:
LOL omo .

Are you bi-polar or something? You won’t use gutter terms but you have laid curses on yourself & probably gotten yourself into more than you can handle.

Can everyone see the exact stuff Olu is doing? Taking everything & giving them is own meaning. .

Please post more pages from that book so we know you have it. Is your camera that poor, why are the images of the book blurry? .





Ogunwusi’s oriki is not the same as Giesi’s Oriki. Ogunwusi’s oriki is can not be Giesi’s oriki while Giesi’s oriki can be Ogunwusi’s oriki.

That emboldened line is nothing but Ayikiti’s exploits with a descendant of Luusi who is likely Ajamaye whom you said fought in Ife/Modakeke’s phase of Ekitiparapo wars.

Take out Ayikiti from the the two lines & your Luusi’s claim will be useless.

See this thief ooo! Is this how you beg? I won't post anything Oga even if you beg .... I will keep mute over so many things. I had thought you claimed Agbededegbe ‘Oyinbo' doesn't exist? But I BURSTED YOU,so that you will realise I AM WHO I CLAIM

As a lazy historian that you are, you could not even posit the right questions to identify Luusi and his lineage wherever they are ? Beside, many do come back to ILE IFE to stay without publicity... Olodo rabata

0balufonlll:
You mentioned that but can you post the verse again? Abeg.

so you can beg? Kai..

obalufonIII,I at you seriously...Let your knowledge be limited to what you know and seek other people's hand where you have no knowledge on . After all, Why do Onifa difa ojojumo if he can picture what can happen next minute?

Olud'orisa has made his point established.

0balufonlll:
LOL. Mr. Agbeedegbede Oyibo. Where you see that one again? You are one creative human. Are you sure you do not do drugs?

This fool talk say na ‘in the family’. I use God beg you, come here & tell us you are ‘family’. . At least a certain group in Ilesa visits their family at Ogbooru Adejokun, certain families at Ife Odan visit a number of other Ogboru sub-divisions for family meetings, certain groups at Iremo axis in Ijebu visit compounds at Iremo to attend meetings, families at Ibadan, Oke Igbo, Ifewara & Ifetedo go to their respetive sources here to attend meetings. Why can’t you do the same? By the way, which of the Giesi houses would you go to? Please come & attend your ‘family’ meetings .

You keep name dropping without the smallest inkling of what you are talking about. Do you even know the house at Ita Ayegbaju is a compound of a female? .

It is fun to come here to see you make a fool of yourself. As you can see, we debate your claims, not mine. I always look forward to hanging out with my people here over bottles of beer while we gist & laugh at your falsehood. It will e an interesting Friday evening today.

@Obalufon: when are you likely to be in town?

I will not engage you on gutter term because it is null and void. If you meet in real life, you will see humility as with the descendants of Odu'a. So continue.....

Funny enough my father was an extremely light skin man but I am not because of my mother's extremely dark skin . So, imagine my complexion? I have said this that you desire to be born as a man whose ancestors did great exploit? But ori gave you what befit you...

Again, you can't have access to Lajamisan descendants because you are not a son of theirs. Mind you there are different version of your ancestors, Orunto history...

.... My question is; who is the FOOL? YOU,obalufonIII ARE.
And my desire is the same peacemaker obalufon to see you the way you are because lowè lowè ní à lúlú àlù'gi jo ......

obalufon,

In the family ORIKI among the orikis of Agbededegbe OYINBO and others at ITA AYEGBAJU ILODÈ. Who is the personality referred to as:

Omo ‘Laade'

Ask the lying and fraudulent master before he deletes his handle,the full meaning of Laade and what does the name mean in the screenshot below ? After all, IFE is only intelligible to him alone

Mind you, luusi is also a contracted form of his name because ancient Yoruba names and language are descriptive form in nature and if the child is born, his/her name is given descriptively to a child born into a family. Although ,this doesn't mean oruko amutorunwa doesn't exist...



Cc. absoluteSuccess


L'àshé Eledáà,
Ojumo ìrè ni fun wa.

obalufon, below are two distinct way to compare what Ooni Ogunwusi's Oriki emphasis. These two praises are in his oriki. So, contrary to that young man, the first is referring to LUSI. kindly compare the two to see if Lusi was just a mere man .
This how to authenticate a praise name when there is a replica of it.

1. Mo nlo nre igbode Omo Luusi Omo arugbo-ile igbode abika lorun Omo o fose foso, komo Olominrin feeru fo Omo oke mo ri tikun aya sile.


2. mo re igbode Omo igun la gba Omo igun la je Omo igun kogokogo lorule Igun ile rin-in gbebo Akalamagbo ile rin gbo eru titu Bi ‘ha je tan mun tan Han moke ikole gun Mosi ikole.


Funny enough, part of Lusi cognomen were , Omo oke..... Omo Igun....... .. Trust me, things are changing because, our ancestors story/history has aalways been dented with of all manner disdain statement and by the grace of God,our ancestors history will be told by us i.e their descendants through proper research work)

Let me say this, that Lusi lived in Ikole in Ekiti axis for a long time and he was a very dreaded warrior. Infact, there is a place called Ahonro(Ihonro/Ihoro) Igbode Lusi . This particular spot no one goes there except his descendants and subject where once in awhile you see the manifestations of his spiritual power when the real beaded crown of Lusi appears and suspend itself on air on this water while his oriki/cognomen is being chanted. He was a very powerful man in his life time and lived for a long time on earth .Even his sword is mystical . Infact his terrifying descendant warrior was the one that took up the cognem, ‘se Oko akoko se Oko Ekiti'. This terrfing descendant of Lusi is also in ogunwusi's oriki......

absoluteSuccess:
He is a complete fake and less intelligent person, I purposely slip with some points above in the post you quoted, to my surprise, this guy that claim all knowing at Ifa did not see it, he was rather highlighting the irrelevant part as though it is the ultimate search for his defense.

Don't mind that clown. He is likened to some Edos that claimed Odu'a is ogodomigodo yet no proof. He said, he is an historian but detest other people's view. In fact, he once said ugbo people were once the same people. But evidence abound from historical, sculptural, name peculiarities, that some invaders came and scattered the place they invaded and restructured the whole place according to a family-related monarchical system . He kept churning out inconsistency and even want to turn everything to propaganda. And on purpose, I omitted some of these things for this èebúpofo fraudulent character to blunder because even Luusi descendant is even among the oriki of Ooni Ogunwusi's ancestors -lineage oriki and all from Lajamisan and his descendants that reigned as Ooni are related to Luusi . I intentionally left that part because of this kind of blunder of his. There is this my ancestor who was the one with the praise; se oko akoko se oko Ekiti before his other descendants took the praise name .




Cheers

How can you the encyclopedia use an account written by Samuel Johnson that he has one's complained against ? So, Samuel Johnson book that referred to Ijesa people as ije osa ( gods sacrifices)? The book that said, Omo Oluwo ni mean OONI?

... This simply mean you have lost it all with your interpretation of the oriki meaning ... Authoritatively, You are an empty brain oo because LUSI IS OVER 500- 600 YEARS OLDER THAN AJAMAIYE , so your lie obalufonIII is mastery and it makes you a real FOOL with all your claims


Do you even KNOW WHO WAS CONTRACTED AS LAADE IN AGBEDEGBEDE LINEAGE AND OTHERS THE ORIKI YOU DIDN'T SEE ? But you were quick to errenously claim Omo Lusi,in Ooni oriki as mere reflection of recognition of Ajamaiye? Smh obalufon, come teach this mannersless young man sense

Can you tell us how a nobody oriki like Omo lusi become Part of a whole Ooni Oranmiyan descendants oriki if he wasn't patrilineal ancestors among some of the oonis after many years ?

Do you even think Ajamaiye/Ajalaiye came down from Heaven like a ghost without a father with your nonentity post ?
OPONU GRANDEUR , I will teach you facts and not your kind of fraudulent rhetoric.

So, oriki has become a piece of shit that anyone can just begun to associate with a kingly oriki, especially the most revered in yoruba land ? Your mumu never do?

Why was Fabunmi okemesi oriki not part of Ooni Ayikiti?

Some people are just pained! So, you don't know that the family house became contracted? Ignorance will make some people die... Contrary to your view Lafogido wasn't the father of Luusi....


Again, see olodo at work! Some people think because someone calls his ancestor father's brother as father, then it means the man must be Luusi's ancestor.... Olodo didn't know every Ooni was a father to all,irrespective of compound such came out from .... .I can't stop laughing at ignorant people because Yoruba language has become ridiculous before some people. If Father is Baba as our Oga has claimed, what is Grandfather? And What is Babatunde?

Obalufon:
Mr Olu e ma binu ooo!! i know nothing all i'm after is facts.. i saw your okiri post

Why would I be angry? Of course, I am not angry at you because truth you seek, the truth you will find. I remain a proud patrilineal son of Oranmiyan.

And thank God you saw it . So do whatever give you joy to seek out the truth but be careful with that young man ooo because he is a dubious and twister of history. Just imagine how he twisted the Oriki Luusi in that part of the post of Ooni Ogunwusi but mind you the post below say something different about Luusi personality.


Below is a screenshot that says , OMO BABA KAN NA NI WON..... Is obalufonIII not the fraudster?

If you doubt, go back to his falsified interpretation of Luusi's oriki

The only known Agbongbon above .... Kindly Wait for obalufon to go to ILE IFE and verify again since it is an èewo(forbid) for a low rank personality like you with nothing to boast of in your ancestry . to disgrace me. After all, you had boasted over the last three weeks to disgrace my ancestors and me but unfortunately you disagrace yourself .....Chai, otito ma koro ooo

Mind you I have posted my ancestors stamped NAMES in Lajamisan descendants, which absoluteSuccesss saw it along side obalufon etc . So wait again for obalufon to come disgrace you after he must make contact to ask some people in ILEIFE about Lusi and Laade so that you obalufonIII will know no peace until you use your own mouth lati fi gbolé under my ancestors feet..

Oga post your ancestors name amongst Oranmiyan's son; Lajamisan family houses descendants ... But you are ashamed because you have been lying all along and have refused to do the needful despite your ranting. Trust me, you are a disgrace to the Yoruba world because you distort history.

absoluteSuccess:
Always after the disgrace of others.



I am not a man like you who ask for what they themselves cannot fathom, I wont ask you to comb 256 odu to proof a point, but your need to degrade others is your strength, not knowledge which seems unavailable to you. My Oluwo is Awishe Ife, if you know that, assume that I know what you are saying. So, proceed to the answer. You have proven you know my question by asking for the title, what you don't know is the answer.

At first I was tempted to do that (telling you the title of the odu outrightly), but when I saw what you did with Olu's oriki, where you have to find flaw with what was mentioned in the oriki that another moniker shared, (Olu's oriki correspond with cogent points, pointing to the lineage of the sitting ooni) I know how endless your gameplan is at desperately seeking to drown others' pristine points when you have no clue to what they were saying.

I will leave you to your endless maneuvering but you have shown the readers that you are a pathological case. Why not search for the meaning of "agbokunrin niyawo" part with the oldest grandmas? You cannot deny the apparent, even the sigidi to gbe kale to gbojule, edi a gbe lo sodo, konii pada wale mo.



Every of your point will establish your claim and your persona. You do not have the sense of perception, I never said "omo odu", not keen enough? Go back to the post you quoted. All I kept saying is Oju Odu. Please my Yoruba brothers here, do we have titles to each "omo odu" that numbers 256? 16 chapters: ofun, otua, ose, 24 combinations, ogbe'fun, ose'tua, owonrinsogbe etc.

Now, my question afresh, given that I claim a title of ifa as the family of osun, I'm claiming the main entry already, one of the sixteen. A knowledgeable person tutored in Ifa should know that outright. But I still have to tell you this because your sense of perception is very very low. You ask for the title, but pretended that I was asking you for omo odu by turning out the number 256

Its like saying I picked my quote from a chapter of a book with 16 chapters, and ask a man who claim to be an ardent faithful of the same book to tell me what chapter I'm I quoting from erroneously, after supplying a hint of the chapter in question via translation in the language he claim to be an exponent, yet he still can't get the clue.

And the same man came back that I needed to tell him my teacher or tell him outrightly the chapter I'm referring to, and in the same breath goes about lambasting me for not following laid down principles. Is this man a knowledgeable man or a fraud? Lambaste me after solving the problem, not when you have proven to be a failure at it.

We are waiting...

Why are you giving him more clue on the sitting Ooni OGUN-W-(USI) oriki ?The mumu didn't know Luusi oriki was part and parcel of Ooni Ogunwusi's oriki . And even failed to realise that Lusi was a grandson of Lajamisan through one out of the three sons of Lajamisan that reigned as OONIS. Funny enough the fraudster has now become Orunto (sooko)descendants but initially said he is from Giesi lineage. He even went further to regressively thought Lusi was 19th Century warrior


My intention is to further make mockery of him because he deviated from omoluabi school of thought by claiming he knows but an empty barrel that regurgitate samething over and over again

Once obalufon visit ILE IFE anytime soon , and he post his information online on LUUSI , then I will post graphical analysis of how GIESI ANCESTRY became part of the three houses of Oranmiyan's son—Lajamisan's son called Ogbooru


I am the one who will laugh last because I am waiting patiently for he, obalufonIII to delete his moniker soon. I am too sure he will do so because of shame and pride Sir.

Obalufon:
I need to create time to go to ile-ife and ask the elders on Luusi.. I can even call my uncles from royal lineage in Ile-ife

You are wicked ooo ! I had thought you will say to him to apologise and chew his pride by acknowledging me with accorded respect but you still kept mute to disgrace him further. DID YOU NOT SEE MY ANCESTORS NAME IN ONE OF THE RULING HOUSES COMPOUND NAME WHEN I POSTED IT?

Anyway, please ask if you still doubt the family page of oriki I posted. Infact, ask about LAADE and LUSI in the Ooni Oranmiyan descendants under the AGBEDEGBEDE HOUSE, WHICH I POSTED EARLIER THAT YOU SAW BEFORE I PULLED IT DOWN . Then ask for the Ooni descendants prince-king with the Oriki; mo se Oko akoko se Oko Ekiti . AFTER ALL, NO ONE CAN USE SUCH PRAISE IF THE OWNER HASN'T BEING ON WAR FRONT WITH A LOT OF CASUALTIES ON THE OPPONENTS SIDE . And I will inform you more on this oriki.




Cheers

‘OK so Olaochi came through with his Japanese style to show what is being done can be tried with any culture & also, your boy Olu was upset by the Japanese angle'. Does the previous quote make a sense? How can I feel bad on what someone else claim as true or lie be a problem to me? As far as I am concerned, the two of you, are children on this platform because I stood by Middle East migration account of Yoruba as others did. And you lot claim aboriginal status of Yoruba and you people shifted your opinion to Japan, please who is the inconsistent and fraudsters here if not both of you?

Below are screen shot of the lies perpetuated by you too

1. Japanese: ko
English : Child
Yoruba : omo


2. Japanese : Tsuki
English : moon
Yoruba : Osupa

Despite your erroneous acts with Japanese word that does not fit with Yoruba cognates comparison. Osupa still has another name in ancient Yoruba lexicon. IFA corpus will teach you such among its recorded stories ( another bomb shelling) . You better don't kill yourself over what is bigger than your knowledge.
Anyway, I am enjoying your weakness as usual. Bloody clowns from IKA —IDU kingdom . Learn and enrich your mindset-coast.

Obalufon:
Oga ju NO do that oo... Se .olugbohun ni yi ni abi afo se ...

? You keep begging me to ignore because he claims to be from ILEIFE? Must I be a brother to a stranger who kept insulting my ancestors ? Have you not seen my ancestors name among the names of the compound names among the Ooni Ruling family compound?

Mind you that boy is FRAUD because I CONFIRM MY LEGITIMACY and he wants to see me repost the document so that he can save it and be using it. A private document is what I posted for public domain consumption, which I won't do again. As an AWO, you must not she'kè ooo. So say the truth. Lies being said and keeping mute is the reason, Yoruba cosmology information have problems. So confirm my statement if I have posted my ancestors Oriki for you to see.

obalufon, you don't need to know anything else on the internet about Laade or who Luusi? Go back to ILEIFE to verify. At least, you are opportune to see my post on Luusi. Therefore Say it to the fraudster to POST HIS ANCESTORS ORIKI because his ancestors is not known in ILEIFE as Oonis descendants. He is obalufon-obatala descendants but want something else for himself. Do you not see his Grandeur Deceit and shallowness in his interpretation of Ooni Ogunwusi's Oriki? Such interpretations is the reason I blame myself because of whom I have been quoting all along! Someone who doesn't have the grip to understand his own ancestors oriki , how would he be able to interpret another person's oriki. Indeed, it is very shocking.

Obalufon:
who is the luusi that is mentioned...also the meaning O soko ekiti soko akoko

Who was Laade? Who was Luusi? I have posted these two names in the family names of Ooni Oranmiyan descendants through his son, known as Lajamisan. And Lajamisan descendants are the names you see being praised in the family compound's name . What exactly do you want to know again?

A typical head with this kind of replica in the Middle East such as this example, were made to be freestanding (not attached to a full figure). Ancient Ife art was often found by locals centuries after its initial use and abandonment and then reused in various ways.

This pattern of Terracotta has been found to depict some of ancient Hebrew sculptor and Middle East people, which hasn't been found in West Africa or Subsahara Africa. Are these people blind to see reason to verify these claims? Even Susan Blier did tremendous work on the field even if the total information isn't accurate.

This is the same reason someone on this platform was saying Araba isn't too strong as regards Yoruba Cosmology world because ,the period of the usage of the name as if Araba begun with the foundational Hebrew ancestors( *mumu* attitude isn't done with them?). As far as Yoruba IFA religion is concerned, Araba is a position for the revered and learned IFA PRIEST, with an advanced knowledge of being chosen and called leader and teacher. Funny enough, below is the kind of caps adorn by ancient Hebrews teachers found among Yorubas ancient leaders.

Contrary to these set of people with no known knowledge of ancient occupiers of Middle East, the Sumerians, Ancient Hebrews were dark skin -Brownish and Light skin people with negroid features.


Below is discovered archaeological picture of ancient Hebrew that lived in the Middle East...

Cognates are words in two languages that share a similar meaning, spelling, and pronunciation
Example :

Hebrew : ooph

Yoruba : oofo/oonfo

English : fly

Are these not cognate?

Obalufon:
Don't fight you are brothers E ma binu Sir..

OK Sir. Mo ti gbo ooo.

absoluteSuccess:
The joke is on you fella, you are the one at your wits end, using false cognates to embellish your claims at every turn but asking others to expose theirs to scrutiny of semantics, because your boy tell them so. Why don't you do exactly the same thing with your false cognates?

Olu is very intelligent, fanning the ember of knowledge further to wherever knowledge can be fetched, but you are in a ditch with your Yoruba/Japanise false cognate because you can do nothing with it, it ends in nairaland.

Olu has hope:



I've once gave you an equation to make something out of the false cognates you often share, but at the end you turn it on me for the reason best known to you.



This is from a reliable source and a framework for linguistics and its practitioners. Need I say more? Enigbon to l'enikan o gbon, oniyen gaan ni baba ogo. Agba ofifo lo maa ndun muhoromuhoro.

You even try ooo bro. This is because, you have exposed them to the knowledge of linguistic cognates

In cognate, there are

1. Doubles

2. Triplets

1. Doublets in English Language -

In English grammar and morphology , doublets are two distinct words derived from the same source but by different routes of transmission, such as poison and potion (both from the Latin potio, a drink). Also known as lexical doublets and etymological twins. When the two words are used together in a
phrase they are called coupled synonyms or binomial expressions.

2. Three words of this kind are called triplets : e.g., place, plaza, and piazza (all from the Latin platea , a broad street).


Furthermore ,there are

False, Accidental, and Partial Cognates

(a). False cognates are two words in different languages that appear to be cognates but actually are not

Example :

olachi's
Japanese :Tsuki x
Yoruba : Osupa x
English : Moon x

Japanese :Le
Yoruba : Ìlè
English : House

(b). Accidental cognates are not etymologically related but just happen to share form.

(c). Partial cognates are words that have the same meaning in some contexts but not others.


Submission:

Sir,forget them, these people's knowledge are retrogressive because if Hebrew's aleph is pronounced in youuba's À(Ah) etc yet they failed acknowledge it. And through Ogun stone, it is said to be of Phyiliac origin and Oranmiyan's hieroglyphs is undeciphered. I wonder what the problem with these people who can't but drag intellectuality to the mud



Cheers

0balufonlll:
Your knowledge about everything including your own ancestry is always up for questioning & if we talk now, na rabid nonsense we go begin see all over the place.

Esu gets a share of every etutu/ebo because he is said to have taught orunmila how to divinate starting with palm-nuts from which he (Esu) will find his own food/upkeep through Orunmila’s application of it in solving human problems.

Get knowledge, no. Na to sit on NL all day talking glibs & fraudulently twisting things when called out.

You are always triggered everytime I post. Is Esu not taking a share of what is being sacrificed to him? Is the 1/5 of it a problem? But What ever you had for supper or dinner isn't my cup of tea because you are always inconsistent for not posting your ancestors name ....as I did to mine.

Again, I repeat, post your ancestors oriki,so that you will proof your ancestry. I swear, you disrespected them,right from olofin to Luusi except I had ever used your ancestors before you fi my ancestors tà'yín online. Despite the fact, I am far older than you..

Mind you,I don't need to place a curse on you because Iwapele has always being with us for immemorial , so no matter how you hide your identity , all the orisas you appease shall fight against you unless you apologise online because you have no respect for me through your provocative view on my ancestors, that had fought alongside side their cousins to sustain ILEIFE from being destroyed . Unless you apologise and acknowledge my ancestors online, you will know no joy— Aasé ooo, except I am not oranmiyan descendant through Ooni Lajamisan,this will not affect you.

Even Ajalaiye(-Ajamaiye ) still fought to set ILEIFE free during 1860s-1892/1893 war which was fanned by Ibadan through -Modakeke to destroy ILEIFE .So I have not hidden where One of my ancestors migrated toward. After the civil war, he even migrated to to settle the problem in that town. The town where the crown, Luusi's body was reburied. Go figure it out.


Henceforth, I won't quote you again because you have no regard for people and their ancestry evidence.

0balufonlll:
OK so Olaochi came through with his Japanese style to show what is being done can be tried with any culture & also, your boy Olu was upset by the Japanese angle. Can folks throw their foundations out of the window & just roll out ideas even connection between Yoruba & Native Americans?

Who exactly were the professionals that claim the narrative were not written in the Bible? Yet I sited an archaeological evidence that conform with the biblical narrative. And your only defence was, you aren't ready to confirm if what I reference was true! Very shocking as it may seems from you because you have not for once reference any of these your GHOST professionals. Oga Please mention the following :

1.Mention the professionals who are Nigerians and non Nigerians that said Biblical narrative isn't older than Quran's.
Mind you, Professor Ogundowole, once posited this view in when he taught me in one of his lecture. He was once a long time lecturer at the university of Lagos.

2. Since you are the one one a defence line, kindly post fossil humans that support your narratives of white occupiers of all NINEVEH.

3. Did you not know he is deceitful with his Japanese, and comparison to Yoruba? Google it and screenshot it.

4. How did TSUKI—Osukpa become OSUPA?

5. Between Agbongbon and OniFa -OliFa, which is older?

6. In as much as Araba had been part of yoruba proverbs-expression , Since you know the history of Araba. Kindly share the first Araba

7. How do you explain this, Éni à báà là'bá ní Báa báa ... Àrábà ni Bàbà Ábáa.

8. How old is this above saying ?

9. Do you know the meaning of Omo Arugbo Ìlè?

10. Esu thought orunmila or not isn't the focal point but who among the two personality is responsible for the duty mentioned as onibodè orun?

11. Between the two orun-Oru in Yoruba history, which of the two is Esu is the guiding as Onibodè?

12. Where is the evidence of the Oru-Orun being depicted in Yoruba land in Nigeria?

13. Did Orunmila met Èlèdúùmàrè from your knowledge of IFA?


Mr... man, break this inform in the same way I site evidence with western information as I usually do.


Edited.

absoluteSuccess:
So shall it be,

"Oturupondi yi eyin o p'omo re, eri bi Orunmila gbe soro bee si?"

Ibi t'ologbon meji gbe nsoro, okolo tin be nibe adofo."

Amen.

Aashé.

Mo k'ìré oo. É dé káàbo sí orí àbàlà tí à tí un jíroro nípà ìtan orílé Èdè Yorùbà.

Ìrè oo

Obalufon:
you need to visit ile-ife Olu ... Ibi is evil negative energy. Ire positive energy as human we are born with evil and good . we have edi ....we don't have Satan that rival authority with God ..Eledumare is too supreme we are pious people .. i don't doubt the east connection because i know alot about it than you thought with route of migration from my maternal lineage i also embrace my paternal oral history more base on physical evidence

I have been to ILE IFE several times..... Ìlè Bàbà Omo ki bo' mo l'éru.

And you haven't answered my question perfectly as I had expected despite the meaning of ibi. Infact, I explained it in my response to macof's post, some days ago. Èsù role's is important in Yoruba spiritual world as he is the one chosen by Èlèdúùmàrè with such duty to ward off any god from harming a mortal and he can also look away if the offending mortal refuses to perform sacrifice to ward of evil.

As it has been said on several times that Èṣú does not cast evil,but he is merely performing his duties to ensure that no man is unjustly attacked by evil. According to IFA philosophy,there are eight forms of evil, and these are :

Death

Pestilence

Loss

Paralysis

Trouble

Curse

Bondage

Iniquity

All these eight are under the supervision of Èṣú according to God (Olodumare) who placed Èṣú in that role to monitor their activities. And these eight ibi are always trying to hinder the progress of man and this is why any sacrifice or rites performed on earth to ward evil must have Èṣú’s Fifth share since he alone has authority to tell the Eight evil to desist from harming a particular person in Yoruba cosmology.

Questions

1.What exactly do you know about these eight human challenges?

2. Why is only the witches and sorcerers that Èṣú has no power over if he is the medium between man and heaven?

Obalufon:
obalufonIII Is only protecting the integrity of our ancestors some of our assertions are wrong, debasing our ancestors values and religion like some write up of absolutesuccess. no one is 100% right , i don't blame ObalufonIII all you need to do is too tactful and diplomatic in the way you Divulge your facts,. if he picks offences let him sees reason ..conflict of Ego is the problem.. is only a fool that will think he or she knows all.. i have learnt alot from you guys here through your flaws and facts to broaden my own knowledge

Why not blame a man that once claimed Odu'a was born in ILE IFE Nigeria,when there is no such proof?

Why not blame him when he use negative words such as fraud on my personality and my research work even when I show screenshot of the word I compare with Yoruba lexicon?

Why not blame him when he said Oluigbo isn't related to Obamakin Osangangan when history says otherwise?

Why not call him to order when he said my ancestors were nobody in ILEIFE despite my gentleman approach?

Why not blame someone who said Odu'a descended with chain but challenge others with negative words when there is nothing like evidence to support such view of his via archeology ?

You have to call a spade a spade,even if there are differences in opinion which is normal. And as regards absoluteSuccess researched work, ought not be a big deal if you can proof to him your perspective on some of the things you disagree with him or I. This place is for enlightenment and not for children like mindsets. After all, Ìlè làtí n ko ésho ro'dè. This is what Stand to gain from your knowledge and others who are willing to share it.


Bro, I stand firm in purity because that's my divinity colour.


Cheers

Obalufon:
I'm so sadden of extent of psychological effect of white man's religion has had on us. Our forefathers never demonized Esu because they knew the meaning of Esu...Demonization of Esu started with Christianity orchestrated by the British carried out by a christian stooge Bishop ajayi crowther slave returnee that had no knowledge of our tradition to demonize the role esu had in the lives of our forefathers because they knew the importance of esu in our tradition , every compound had an Altar of Esu as the spot where all their prayers are convey to Almighty God also a symbol of deterrent for evil doers to be careful ..Esu being an Angel/Irumole of mercy Esu is not Orisha/Saint... Orisha is human that was deify due to their supernatural powers .,some Irumole also manifested themselves through human possession of their supernatural powers and were later deified example Sango , Esu irumole was sent to earth from heaven by God is the only link between human and Almighty God Eledumare we pacify God through ESu he acts as the police that enforce Gods laws he has the responsibility to bring to book anybody that disobey Eledumare/God ..Esu is merciful and forgiving Irumole he knows our flaws being human we can't do without sin. No motion without friction necessity is mother of invention.just pacify him with ero palm oil to calm down your karma .. . i know how human mind works despite your high intelligence all your thoughts on esu is based on Christianity assumption of Esu ..If you have never been punched before you wouldn't know how to dodge a blow . if there is no hunger you wont know how to farm, Aba ni wa oran ba ri da ."" if there is no pain we won't be cautious and careful of our fragility .. as a human being we need Esu because we are sinner . Esu is the force of Life that lead us to our destiny Esu sit at the middle of our consciousness from him comes intuition ,wisdom and knowledge he is not confusionist but guardian Angel in our journey through life so merciful in time of trouble he broadens our mind ...Esu the merciful and passionate Angel/irumole so merciful to the extent he shared our trouble and feelings even more than us ..Elekun sunkun lanroye sun Eje, Oni mi sumi lanroye su ifun.. when we cry tears he cries blood with us so sympathetic toward human when we are stooling he stool intestine as a sign our extreme empathy with us ,he wants the best for us he barrages our mind with all ideas just to get us out of situation with its consequences if is helpful out of love and some time he allows things to happen naturally to lead us to our path in life if we are going astray ..Aba ni wa Oran ba rida..He will punish evil doer His Irumole of Justice without him the world will be chaotic he ensures that people do not misbehave he brings evil doers to justice ,please don't interpret yoruba religion based on white man's religion .... I hope you understand me i'm not literary savvy like you .... I am not against Mr Olu hebrew claim because i have a prove on it Oral history through my maternal great grand father he was from a royal house and also a priesthood lineage awo imale olokun not from ife .

Despite the name tag for the Esu in Yoruba tradition as the medium between God and man. What is evil in Yoruba cosmology ?

Secondly, Do you have radiocarbon data or other information as the proof about Nigeria's ILEIFE location as the home of God's creation?

Cheers

absoluteSuccess:
Wow, this is awesome, it is the real stuff bro. You are a prince apparent.

You see, Yoruba tradition is a perfect match wherever you go, it does not lie.

Together we'll restore the truth and bring back the light to our fatherland.

No one holds God to a ransom, He has many good hands as replacements.

With great humility do say it as I am a direct patrilineal descendant of Oranmiyan. And together, we shall restore the glory of our forefathers through academic and oral means .Àshé