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Africaman:
This must be the Iwo Eleru skull, found in a cave in 1965, in modern day Ekiti state.

Checkout these links:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3174138/

https://thesebonesofmine./category/iwo-eleru-skull/

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0024024

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/8771015/Skull-suggests-Stone-Age-humans-interbred-with-more-primitive-relatives.html

http://sciencythoughts..com/2011/10/re-evaluation-of-iwo-eleru-skull.html

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/1151921.pdf

http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/43376/1/WRRO_43376.pdf

Hope they helped.

ciao

Excellent links. Need I say,that series of analysis has been posited despite the fact that the Iwo Eleru fossil human has been studied. Unfortunately, this link;
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3174138, says,’ The Iwo Eleru burial was excavated from the Iwo Eleru rock shelter, south-western Nigeria, in 1965 by Thurstan Shaw and his team . The skeleton, preserving a calvaria, mandible and some postcranial remains, was found at a depth between 82 and 100 cm from the surface in an undisturbed Later Stone Age (hereafter LSA) context. Radiocarbon analysis of charcoal from the immediate vicinity of the burial resulted in an age estimate of 11,200±200 BP (∼13 ka calibrated).

The skull was reconstructed and studied by Brothwell, who linked it to recent West African populations, though he recognized that its lower vault and frontal profile were unusual, and that the mandible was robust. The specimen is complete along the entire midline from nasion to beyond opisthocranion. Although it slightly asymmetric it shows no major distortions and the relatively well preserved mandible constrains its basal breadth. A preliminary multivariate analysis of cranial measurements by Peter Andrews suggested that the Iwo Eleru specimen was distinct from recent African groups'.

From the above analysis, there is no connection between Yoruba ancestors and this Iwo Eleru,which is the basis of my disagreement with those who claim Yoruba as the ancestors of human beings from ILE IFE Western Nigeria

googi:
Yes, I have seen many



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Not all Yorubas had marks on their faces in the past even if it was widely spread in the olden days when it begun. So,it was not true as being popularised by some writers/authors even if it has gradually fizzled out as times has changed back to when Yoruba don't wear marks on their faces. Though it was very common among Oyo and affiliated groups with a saying, that mark wearing was fashionable and of nobility. However, ‘Buje'; Randia Maculatas is the one I know was used by all Yorubas for tattooing.

And the Ichi marks may look like the one on sculpture that was found in ILE IFE but are different things to the wearer of such mark both in the different group you mentioned.I hope you know the people who wear Ichi is a scarification which indicate that the wearer had passed through initial initiation into the highest society Nze na Ozo ,thus marking the wearer as nobility. Unlike Yorubas,the mark wearers in Yoruba land are not for initiations but fashion or beautification of the face and distinction from others as well as to be able to identify the kidnapped in the future if such is found. One of the aspects for marks as initiation is due to Abikus reason, which made me have one through Ifa dictate. Apart from certain reason, marks aren't for initiation of some sort.


Perhaps, you have more information than this, kindly share.



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lawani:
what the calendar means is that we are in year 10060th of the yoruba era after an ancient ife was destroyed

I do not doubt the destruction of ancient ILEIFE but where was the particular ILE IFE ? As far as I am concern,this calendar is incoherent with the information as regard human fossils found in western Yoruba's , Nigeria. Do you have any information on Yoruba human fossil over 10,000+ years old? Kindly share because others and I want to learn.

lawani:
Jews are not more than five thousand years old whereas the yoruba calendar is 10060 years. Jews are a new people and Yoruba are not their descendants

1. History of Yoruba calendar does not fit into the archeological discovery of fossil human found at Iwo Eleru. So how did 10,000+ calendar fit into Yoruba calendar if not questionable?

2. Even the fossil human isn't Yoruba ancestor that have been analysed in Germany.
can you explain why?

3.The assumed Gbagyis-Nok People that some scholars claimed that some Yoruba ancestors migrated out of do not have any Calendar as old as 10,000+ years ago.
Can you explain the reason this does tally with Yoruba's?

4. The oldest boat found in Northern Nigeria is about 8,000+ years old, and did not match the calendar date with Yoruba's.
Can you explain why?

5. It is quite unbelievable with this assertion of yours claiming Hebrew are 5000+years old, because of their record. And it is Unfortunately, this assertion of yours , is untrue because the civilization of the forebears of the Hebrews developed their language around this era you mentioned as 5000+ years ago in a unique way and their ancestors had been in mesoptomia before 7000 years ago. Where did you get your information on archeology of this view?

6. Till datee the oldest temple in the world ever known is in Turkey ,which is over 11,000+years in the Middle East. Where is the claim of yoruba's calendar claiming the ancestors of all humanoid?

7 . As you can see, the claim on the Yoruba calendar is suspicious being the fact that the development of Yoruba is about 2500-3000+ years ago nd at the height around 1000AD-1100AD when Coptic Christianity entered Africa.

@ macof, I am still waiting for you to break the code of this word I posted in my last response to you which is: יורבּ, since you are knowledgeable in old Hebrew. Do you know why? I can sense the zeal you have to stand up for Yoruba traditions that you don't even understand the complexity of it. Plainly, it is an extraordinary divine gift to decipher the complexity and unraveling them because it takes knowledge-wisdom-understanding to crack it. In fact, it is beyond memorising the corpuses in IFA.



Cheers

@ KingSango , there is Trinity Concept in Yoruba land. It is called È mi Okunrin meta( I,the three in one man).


Note: If you are so much in love with Yoruba tradition, kindly follow nearly all members on this forum to have more knowledge of Yoruba history and tradition.



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bluke:
thanks for all the informations.
i can rest from this whis quest burdering me, maybe when i stumble another nut, i'll ask.

eyin le'see ree

Thank you too Sir

@nisai, if you can take a close range of the encrypted pictographs or hieroglyphs on the Oranmiyan's tree ,then the code can be broken by the grace of Élédáà if it is a Jewish lettering.

Kindly send it to me via xylovoice@gmail.com



God bless you.


Cheers

bluke:
just doing historical research when i found that sultan bello report on yoruba and the oonis video to ghana.
no much knowledge on the subject.

You see, the Yoruba forebears lived in Saudi Arabia under a different name which is contrary to some people on this forum that had thought Oyo was trying hard to connect to Islam to proof a point. No Sir, Oyo information is as solid as one can imagine.Before now, some people had claimed there were no name tbat could link Yoruba to middle East but evidence abound after decades and centuries through research finding that Yoruba footprint was from the land of Or/Ur(ilu Oru)heat land. Dierk Lange ,plainly stated this and other researchers.

In fact, history has it that the first mention of Jews in the areas of modern-day Saudi Arabia dates back, by some accounts, to the time of the First Temple . Immigration to the Arabian Peninsula began in earnest in the 2nd century CE, and by the 6th and 7th centuries there was a considerable Jewish population in Hejaz , mostly in and around Medina , in part because of the embrace of Judaism by such leaders as Dhu Nuwas .

To day, the descendants of these Jewish settlement moved to Africa through the land of Egypt and fused with other Jews before gradual migration took them down to West Africa because of war.


Note: Some people who aren't with pure heart may find this as intriguing but it is true. While I was a child I heard a story of Oranmiyan who claimed to want to go and avenge his father's humiliation and I wondered what such could mean........But today,in piece by piece,Odu-revelation is being made manifest.



Cheers.

bluke:
just to get pronouciation right.
ashe as in amen (d r)
whats ashe (d d)

À as in Yoruba'alphabet of A-b-d....sh and é in the same context. No on the amen because, somewhere along the line,Yoruba's forebear interchange the meaning to another meaning but specifically, the meaning simply is absolute ‘authority' of God or,someone who is a king. Take for instance, ONLY THE KING IS KNOWN TO BE CALLED ÀLÀSHÉ in Yoruba's epithat(Oriki) and not even herbalists or spiritualists who are vastly knowledgeable in herbology.

The word Amen is claimed by few western researchers to be originated from Amon god but Semitic researchers says it was used by old Hebrew to mean unshakable. Interestingly ,Amen is as old as the foundation of Yoruba's knowledge. The word amen in circulation among the Christians originated from Yoruba ancestors. What do I mean by this? è í mí( in yoruba dialects, one hears a saying as,‘ ì mí kán è mí mí (a proverb in Yoruba land to show one is never afraid or unshakable).

As far as I have verify this word,no group can break this etymology without such being ancient Yorubas. I have seen Ibo groups calls fowl as ọkụkọ but they borrowed this word through Yoruba migrants. The reason for this assertion is that the voice of a male fowl which sound as ko ko ko - and Yoruba forbears saw it and postulated it as a type that crowl for its voice to be heard,was the foundation of the word, sound or voice in ancient Yoruba lexicon. In my previous post that I posted an old Hebrew's alphabet of ‘Qol' which represent voice/sound and I mentioned a day to day familiar word that choir members, musicians etc are being referred to when they practice their profession as ,‘kọ - orin'( voice out song, sound out song,sing song).




Cheers

ImperialYoruba:
Thank you Prince! You talk from experience. Are you twins or you have them?

Father of twin by grace of God and not by man...

bluke:
kindly advice of yoruba belief about the skies (galaxies)

Ifa is full fledge encrypted knowledge of universe and the earth's credible graudal creation. In fact, the Greek-Roman interpreters didn't catch the glimpse of it in BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION because the Yoruba Odu Ifa says in Osa Ogunda which says,

“Iri tu wili tu wili la fi da ile aye, la bu da ile,” which means, “Dews pouring lightly, pouring lightly, was used to create the earth world in order that goodness could come forth into existence at once.”

Who ever understand the above STATEMENT and the gradual creation of earth will realise the Yoruba Ifa is a record keeping ‘word of God'. Thus, the Ogbon-Imo-Ooyè(knowledge-Wisdom-Understanding) is the basis of the world's creation and the depth of Holiiness of God which is very eminent in Ifa Corpus.

And Yoruba tradition do not worship galaxies as did the Greek -Roman etc as Western scholars imagined. In fact, the Yoruba tradition from the eyes of Western world as regard the veneration of ancestors but celebration of heroes past while praying through these ancestors and hoping Eledaa will grant the prayers through his Àshè.......

The problems however, in some cases is the assimilation of some ancestors who were at loggerheads in the ancient time into Ifa corpus as part of the creation which made the complexity of the creation became coded. This the reason URIMILA/ORUMILA is ; LIGHT BREAK FORTH

AND WITH THE SAME MEANING WITH HEBREW'S EPHOD'S URIM; LIGHT



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ImperialYoruba:
Noo jare.
I would love to have twins. .
I was looking at their oriki and wondering when i saw the beans.

Why beans, not rice or yam or even maybe salad and scotcheggs. Do you know what i mean? Yeah.

But i do love twins, and i think i deserve them as a reward after teaching macof the link between the praisesong "Ejire ara Isokun" as a Yoruba dial back to the twins of our ancestor Isaak.

May the God of heaven and earth grants you the heart desire of yours .But watch out for the challanges in training them. Although, there is a big joy in having them.



Cheers.

brodalokie:
So you don't mix up atum and amon because someone has tagged a sphinx or ra to the ram amon.
I don't know whether you read where I explained how Osiris is sneaks in other deity's business as represented by the two staffs.
I have also seen it happen in Yoruba where someone born under the Osiris is taking off Atum's cloth while Horus is shielding Osiris from the furious Atum

Who are the Yorubas seems to be the basis for our comments, on this platform,so kindly let this be your guide on this platform.

Sir, Since you are more knowledgeable on atum and Amon,then relate this your views as they connect to Yoruba migration or same God as El (ancient Hebrew) vs Ele ( Yorubas)



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bluke:
these are facts, real facts of life of what governs us as per european culture.
this is why i'm looking inwards to yoruba issue.

The fact is that Ephod- IFA isnt God but a leeway to understanding the power of God through his gradual introduction of self to mankind ,which Eledumaare begun with Noah and through this knowledge, Abraham was initiated into this knowledge and believed more through Faith because his faith got affirmed through,using a ram positioned by same God to replace his son as sacrifice which the Egyptians weren't eating but worshipping the rams symbols that archeologists, Egyptologists dug out as gods to Kemet which the Hebrews used as sacrifice, consume or eat before Muslims through her founder in the person of Prophet Muhamed begun the usage of Ram as sacrifice after 450-500AD . In fact, its origin is unknown within Yoruba because it is part and parcel of Yoruba tradition to use animals as sacrifice.


These facts are based on archeological findings and not on astrology of Western Europeans/Greek Origin's contexts. So, Please,


Below screenshot speaks better.

lx3as:
I want someone to throw more light on these words and some others because they are uncommon with other African words:

Ala, funfun - white, unblemished, cleanliness, religion

El eda, Al seda compare with El Shedai

El edumare compare with Elohim, etc.

The El and Al sounds in Yoruba and Semitic languages.

‘Ala'( white) is only close to Hebrew's ‘Laban'(white)Unless if one want to use another Yoruba as:

Yoruba: ko'labawon/èlàbàwon

Meaning: stainless,purity,white

Hebrew:lâbân לָבֵן
Meaning: white ones, white


Yoruba's Èlè-Elu-Olu(lord) is the same as Hebrew's El-Eli(lord)

Yoruba's Édà( self being i.e human being) is the same as Hebrew's Eda(only used for Hebrew as a people of God and for Hebrews as a congregation)

As you can see,c Elshedai ought to mean the same thing with Élédáà but western world linguists have not come up with this postulation. Trust me my information isn't self thought or IMAGINATION but well researched.


Note: Please Sir,try to be specific if you need to know someone's view on what you don't know by quoting anyone your mind chooses. Instead of this open style of yours. My reason is that I expect none here to hide what God deposit in him.


God bless you.


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ImperialYoruba:
Is this not the story of Moremi and her son?

Sometimes, I begun to wonder these historical semblance with the Oranmiyan version of the Yoruba's oluorogbo and Moremi,his mother. In fact, Mount Morem is still in Middle East in the same vein More is in ILEIFE. Quite interesting.

ImperialYoruba:
Prince, help me out on this one...which type of beans they cook for twins? I know they have certain things regarded as special cuisine for twins and beans is one of them but i dont know what kind. Is it not black beans?

ewa oloyin . Are you a father of twin? a family of yours or friend want to cook it for his or her twin ?

bluke:
everything you said pointed to the consternation sign.
before moses returned from receiving the commandments the israelites had made an image of the bull.
he condemned it and made sacrifce of ram.
2000cycle years the sign changes, check the signs.

before the bull was the goatie, then the ram, you saw jesus with the fishes (pisces) and islam with water.
the global contention now which religion rules the world.


islam or judaism?

Which religion rules the world? Urim—Orum(ila—Ephod—Ifa....Everything on planet earth is centered on this geomancy{lot casting}. On Judaism as it stand today is likened to the knowledge of million of people with Yoruba ancestry in South /North America and their perceived knowledge on Yoruba tradition that some non Yoruba traditional knowledge has been incorporated into it.

bluke:
everything you said pointed to the consternation sign.
before moses returned from receiving the commandments the israelites had made an image of the bull.
he condemned it and made sacrifce of ram.
2000cycle years the sign changes, check the signs.

before the bull was the goatie, then the ram, you saw jesus with the fishes (pisces) and islam with water.
the global contention now which religion rules the world.


islam or judaism?

Are you rewriting history or archeological finding? If you don't understand the difference between exodus era and Abraham's time then, it is impossible to agree on this. Although try to google the archeological discovered location known as Mountain Morem—Land of Morem (Hebrew's original name of this mountain) where it is assumed that Abraham saw the ram he killed instead of his son Isaac.(Gen 22:2).

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the post was related to sacrifice,
israelites in the wilderness, pointed to the future of sacrificing ram, (moses advice to israelites when they made a carve of bull which was the previous order in egypt) which they still do (judaism)[/quote]Well, Ra(Egypt)Ram(English) is not related to ancient Hebrews ram because, the oral history of Hebrew mentioned Abram replaced Isaac to be killed with a Ram as an alternative.

Therefore, the ram sacrifice predated Moses,if you are in biblical reference because Abram sacrificed Ram before Moses. As it is known that Ram worshiping had been in existence in Egypt before Third dynasty because Ra was an ancient god, but not the oldest of the gods; the first references to Ra date from the Second Dynasty. However, by the Fifth Dynasty he was a powerful god who was closely associated with the pharaoh. The Pharaoh was already seen as the embodiment of Horus and so the two gods became linked, sometimes as the composite deity Ra- Horakhty ("Ra (is) Horus of the Horizon". Ra also came to be associated with Atum (the creator god of the Ennead in Heliopolis) as Atum-Ra. By the Fifth Dynasty the pharaoh was referred to as the son of Ra and the name of Ra was incorporated into the throne name of every king from that point onwards. Many Old Kingdom pharaohs built sun temples in which to worship Ra.

The point here is that When the Hebrews were in Egypt for 400+ years,there was a problem of plague and sheep were sacrifice and the sheep's blood were used as an atonement for death(cleansing/purification) of Hebrew descendants in Egypt when the Bible's account claimed that Egyptian firstborn must die. So the information you posited isn't true because before Moses,the act of sacrificing ram had been established. Unlike the Egyptians that worshiped Ram

The point here is that Yoruba did not associate God form with any animals in the same manner the ancient Hebrews didn't. In fact, sheep- Ram famly etc in Yoruba religion is associated with atonement of sin and cleansing

bluke:
the jews did ram, the egyptians did bull

Kindly verify . There Ra is Ram's head in Egyptians world of gods. I did not mention bull but on ram's information ,so don't mixed it up. I have read a lot about Egyptians gods.

lawani:
Because the name Lamurudu or Nimrod is in Yoruba story of Oduduwa. The Oduduwa who came from Mecca described himself as a son or descendant of Nimrod (Lamurudu)

Sorry sir,I don't see how the name Oduduwa is connected to Nimrod (Lamurudu)because there is no name semblance among the Nimrod descendants nor history of anyone with such astronomy knowledge but Terah ,who was Abraham's ancestor.

The same way the meaning of ‘Arieh' is said to be the old Hebrew word Lion through the western world's interpretation for the meaning) and Èrin—elephant( is a Yoruba's interpretation) which can be callled False cognate.

As you can see, Yoruba's Lamurudu may be different from the etymology of Nimrod's Babylonian- Assyrian king ruler who is being identified as a “rebellion” or “the valiant” person and being the son of Cush, grandson of Ham, and great grandson of Noah; a mighty hunter. So share your etymology of Lamurudu from your research.

brodalokie:
The mula in adimula is the teeth that mawiwawi or moles human flesh. Can't take a joke? Fine then, below is your straight answer.

If history was twisted then, you would be telling me that the Sumerians or Iraqis migrated from the Yorubas.

No, the Sumerians did not part to from but Yoruba ancestors migrated to that part of the land from the following information. Perhaps,it reflect on

The Sumerians called themselves ‘Saggig', which is interpreted as ‘black headed ones' because they shaved their heads The Sumerians had in their  cuneiform writing ,that they were modest and humble which is reflected in their dress, consisting mainly of a simple tunic. They were clean shaven, and also were thought to shave their heads bare.

In Yoruba land: This For a inumerable years this songs in ancient ILEIFE Says,

Omo Olu IFE Ooni bante Jogina,
L 'o mu IFE Ooni wu mi,Ori fifa kodoro 
L' o mu IFE su mi

(Worthy children of Lord Ooni(owner) of IFE, worthy Jogina apron wearers
This endear IFE Ooni to me,total head shaving,however,that repels me

Omo Oju r'abe sa, omo bante Jogina 
L' o mu IFE wu mi,Ori fifa kodoro 
L' o mu Ibé su mi

( children who flee at the sight of razor, Worthy Jogina Apron wearers,
This endears me to IFE  Ooni, worthy total head shaving children,however, that repels me)

As you can see, ancient Yoruba ancestors wore Bante; apron wearers,and Banté was not worn in west Africa until arrival of Yoruba ancestors from the land of Egypt-Morroco-Sudan- Nigeria..
Only God knew what they were wearing before the arrival of Yorubas and other migrants.

bluke:
if you mentioned nimrod before all these civilisations, then yorubas superior.
Nimrod was there grt grand father. The father of oduduwa.

How do you proof this?

brodalokie:
Who no like better thing? Everybody just dey claim children of Abraham

The ram deity is the simbol of Aries in the Roman astrology. In Egypt he is Osiris. They worship many gods but the most respected and revered was Ra. The sphinx and pyramid are mythical representations of Ra. They were both actual human beings just like those of the Yoruba myths. Their pharaohs also claimed to represent God on earth, just as in the case of Bel or Cush, the original founder of Babel and the son of Ham claimed to hear from God while he interpret languages but in the process confused them. When you look at the photos of the pharaohs, it is exactly dressed up like the head of the sphinx. I have a thread about the sphinx if you care to check my page.
Egypt is also named among the middle east and their relationship with Israel is thicker than water. I am glad that you have always included Egypt when talking of the immigration route of the Yorubas. It is possible that they also brought in the cultural formation along with them.

No sir, you are wrong because the Egyptians WORSHIPPED RAM and Yoruba used it as sacrifice. So liking to be called Hebrew isnt a big deal but who the YORUBAS ARE.There are people in the bible that God mentioned separately even with the love he has for everyone born of YHWH- IWA(Yoruba's ). Do you even know western researchers do not know the meaning of YHWH ,which simply mean HOLINESS-WITHOUT BLEMISH-RIGTHEOUSNESS (IWA) IN YORUBA.

Even if nearly all Yoruba historians or linguists have no clue about it right now but in their hearts they ponder over it if it is true or not. In fact, Yoruba do have two version of their history; the first settlers and the immigrants settlers and the immigrants settled down and multiplied more than the settlers before them. Perhaps you ought ponder why the closest Yoruba neighbors do not prostrate in their tradition or have multiple twins as Yoruba do.


Note:
If I decide to post my researched Yoruba cognates with ancient Afro-Asia/Semitic through the Hebrew classical language,you will wonder, Sir.



Cheers.

bluke:
this hebrewism started from abraham, if he came from ur of chaldean and crossed into canaan. then the canaanites were before him.
hebrew= cross over.
As some people claimed, he was the son of the priest, (Abore in yoruba) but corrupted into hebrew

Historians and Egyptologists claims that even the word Ivri-eber-Hebrew was what Abram called himself when he lived and he was born in Ur and was son of a man who lived in Ur. In effect,they were strangers but had special divinity power to connect with a unique God that was faceless, unlike other groups..This singled him out.

And yes, the Canaan/Kanaan were not Hebrews from initially from history because they had occupied that land before Abraham descendants appeared but that land had been promised to Abram by El who sent the descendants of Abram to land of kmt for 400+ years( according to biblical narrative) the exodus through Sinai.Although,through intermarriage some Canaanite became part of ancient Hebrew,which made them become assimilated. Even at this, some historians claimed that the Canaanite aren't really different from Hebrew


Abram was a son of priest and a priest himself but his own knowledge became unique through discovery of supreme power.

On the abore postulation,as meaning abraham is a bit not incoherent because I am yet to find such meaning in the western linguistics analysis or semblance with their interpretation. Mind you, I am not saying, the western researchers ‘must' have cognate but abo ore(Ore-deity worshiper) is not the same as ab—aba (father) in the same way Jesus said on the Cross, as ‘abba'(father)....



Cheers

brodalokie:
I am heating up the discussion like an adamant sword cutting the flesh of a god. My nick is Abey or Abiodun. I am a logo to the Yoruba tribe

I don't think you are heating up the issue because you have not been following up for a long time..The basis of these juxtaposition is Yoruba as Hebrews or who are Yoruba's...And I posted some linguists interpretation of ancient Hebrew which is a CLASSIC LANGUAGE as having Cognates with Yoruba language....As shocking it is to some people saw ,so do I see these cognates.. So if you want to understand these things, then kindly study what it means to have the following when powerful foreigners arrives in a Community newly wih a language which can be superior or become a problem to the already existing spoken language:

Supplementary

Complementary

Replacive



Cheers.

brodalokie:
There are only 4 apocalyptic colors.
North = White
East = Red
South = Black
West = Pale

I am hybrid South and West.
Today's Santa Claus wears red and white meanwhile it used to be yellow and black (YuleGoat or Yuletide Goat). Judges wear black and white. They all have a unique connections. Gbomogbomo who abducts young children and either punishes or/and rewards them.
Blue is an hypothesis.

Red in Yoruba world is not in conformity with purity but blood —sacrifices,spiritism,opposition, etc

White —is Purity


Note: Others know this more than I do...So let them do more justice to them.

ImperialYoruba:
Prince, teach him! That guy is all over the place but nowhere at home in Yorubaland. He has gone to space, to Jupiter, to talking about apocalypse, and associating Yoruba blue with North, and now talking about astrology. He is beating around the bush. . He has no clue what we are doing here.

He is referencing Greek world —Egyptian's worldview that Yoruba subdued their knowledge with Yoruba's Wisdom.

Example is found in the struggled translated Ancient Hebrew alphabets by western researcher: qol; voice,sound — Yoruba's ko; voice,sound

More simplified example in Yoruba language: Ko-Orin (sing a song/ voice a song)

MetaPhysical:
Imperial, I salute you sir! I miss you here, please drop once in a while and lighten up the thread. Everyone in here get too serious and we lock down, your own injenctions will help. I am reading what you post, you have very good points and positioning but I get a kick from your style of presentation, I can't stop laughing at your jest and taunt. I am interested in three points you raised. Please emphasize on the Aburo and Akobi. Share more. Also, when you say Elu is Blue, how did it become so? Elu is the tree leaf our Ancestors use to manufacture indigo. Is it not?

Yes, Elu is the exact for indigo making and are not found in everywhere in Yoruba land but in specific part of Yoruba land.

brodalokie:
Moses was a crowned prince of Egypt and next in line to Pharaoh. He schooled there and then furthered his education in another place before he wrote the scrows or scripts, the first five books of the Holy Bible. He is more learned than you and me. Noah is the bone of contention and his children are the ones who has divided the lines and map of the present world. After the confusion or chaos of Babylon the various lingos could have had different names they called him and his descendants of which we yorubas are part of. From history it was Ham that migrated to the plains of Africa and established a colony there and his son Cush founded Babel which Nimrod expanded. In other tribes Cush is called Bel, Baal, Janus, Mercury, Hermes (meaning, Son of Ham). He was a high priest that claimed to hear from the gods or God. He interpreted the languages and in the process confused them. Janus is depicted as a man with claws with which he scattered the people. This is why the Bible said they could not finish building the tower to reach the heavens. In Greece, Hermes is next thing close to Zeus. Shem in the other hand remains in the middle east and carried on the tradition of his father Noah and the Jews are his direct descendants. From Noah to Shem to a Abraham to David to Jesus, they keeped the records even when they went to captive in Egypt, Babylon, Persia etc. Ham was cursed because he derailed. He saw Noah's unclothedness, he imposes himself as a deity and became a Zeus and it worked out as his children began to initiate trojan wars and expanded their territories into an empire, the same thing Cain did. But Shem who had the promise was living among them waiting on God for the promise, they died in the hope until God called Abram to wage war on Cannan.

Aries is a god of war. Go and verify.

Moses was a crown prince but with reason. And I am sorry, he reigned in his time and we are in different era. So if you say so that he is well versed than you and I. But mind you, I am slightly knowledgeable in English language, Français lingue ,ancient Hebrew and quite knowlwdgeable in Yoruba's. As you can see,I am not the one directing my footsteps but Élédaáà{ponder over this].

As far as I am concerned,it is not about Noah because he did not give birth to only one child, if we followed the historical account of the Bible. But the descendants that begun from Terah-Abram. Unfortunately,Abram left this his people to start another race who are Ivri people (Hebrew). And if one consider the Chaldeans, who were part of Shem descendants are black people. Godfrey Higgins, a reliable English antiquary says,‘Chaldeans were originally Negroes'.Professor Rudolph Windsor is in total agreement with this , which he stated in his very noteworthy book, ‘FROM  BABYLON TO TIMBUKTU'. He wrote, ‘ The Chaldeans and of that Region were jet black in their complexion'. Today, Basra people are dark skin people  indigenous in Iraq to proof this point.

Sir, I am not interested in the astrology you posit because they are greek invention! , Egyptian etc and not Yorubas. Have you ever seen or heard Yoruba claiming their God as having Ram's horn? No,even if Yoruba have myths.....Have you ever seen Yoruba doctrine worshiping ram as Egyptians did before Islam?No

Furthermore,no Yoruba king (priest and ruler) ever claim to be God but Igba ikeji Orisa. Do you know the meaning of this? On Aries again, I disagree with you because it is about being a ruler. The below screensscreenshot says it all.


Note:I am African today but my ancestors have a foothold in Middle East as they did in Egypt and doing it in West Africa.This is what happen in each area Yoruba arrived......Ponder...

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