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davidnazee:
So it was the Aworis you say the Portuguese met in Lagos in 1475 that told the Portuguese Lagos belongs to Benin Kingdom? because the Portuguese reported Lagos as being under the control of Mighty Benin Kingdom.

Nope 1472 Read again, I said ‘before' 1475;....Bini didn't get to Lagos until late 17th century... Your falsehood is outrageous.

samuk:
You are all over the place and unable to make up your mind. You manufacture your version of history on the go.

You said European didn't get to Africa till 1500, when I pointed you to the fact that they were already in Benin by 1485, you are now saying they got to Lagos before Benin, how would you know that if you didn't even know when Europeans first arrived Africa. When European got to Lagos, Lagos was under and part of Benin Kingdom, itsekiri was part of Benin Kingdom with Benin city as capital.

Just imaging your ignorance? Portuguese was already in Lagos before 1475 nd the same Portuguese got to Bini 1485 . How did Bini met Portuguese before Yoruba( Aworis)? Have you not read that Aworis met potoki(portugues) before Bini met them ? Google is your Friend on this or better still Portuguese archives recorded it .Rui de Sequeira visited the area in 1472, naming the area around the city Lago de Curamo. Funny enough, Bini that have it on record that Portuguese met Bini in 1485 are now claiming Portuguese met them before Yorubas . samuk, all your lies and other Edos that twist history are busted .

Moorish:
Wow, you take pride "harassing" other human beings online?

And you proudly wear your badge of honor too

I would not want to be like you, seriously

Kindly find no offence in what he said because these set of Edos before now have falsely lied about Yorubas ,to a large extent. Did you see one of them threatening me ? BabaRamota ,only mock them and inform. I wish you came across threads like this in the past, you would had thought their version of Odua was true but no! their version of the storyline isn't true. Some of us are from Odua lineage either through his patrilineal or matrilineal descendants.While scholars have taken time to do excavations in ILE IFE and BINi to test, which is older. And from radio carbon test, proof IFE Arts is superior to Edos. This is one out of the reason that we must correct such fallacy.

davidnazee:
And Atakpame is an independent nation? Those Yorubas in countries u mentioned are all independent nations?
And to show how much of a mugu u are.. Those people u mentioned in South America went there themselves from Ife to form independent nations? Are Yorubas the only tribes exported as slaves from Africa? Maybe Igbos can claim independent Igbo nations too in South America then abi.. Which Yorubas are in North America? Are u refering to the ones that travel there with visas? Every national is in North America mugu..
You can continue celebrating your enslavement its your choice I don't care but you still don't make any sense at all..

Just imaging ,who is engaging me? So, you dont know yorubas are in North America? Doubt and google Yorubas in North America. After, you must have done this, You will definitely hate yourself more being Edo because of hatred and jealousy against Yoruba s. Again, you unintelligently inferred about nation as if all the people living in many African nations is homogeneous in nature. I am doubtful of you being studious because a lot of people,who are conversant with Nigeria history know that the Yoruba starting from Cotonou, Ketou/Ketu Atakpame ( IFE Togo) through to Ghana were cut off from their main stream Yoruba ethnicity which was due to land dermacation in 1884/85 by Europeans, does it mean they don't see themselves as people from same Yoruba stock? In fact, Atapkame Call themselves IFE people. This is how much they love associating with their ancestral history . Can such be said about Edos,with the exception of Oba Bini that always associate with Oranmiyan, who was a son of Ogun, one of the sons of Odudua? Mugus as all of are thought Odudua was the father of oranmiyan. Anyway I know the Edo is less than 3,000,000 population ( All the tribes in Edo) because she is a depopulated tribe that has more females than males .

davidnazee:
I’m still trying to think why you yorubas will just take to lying to your fellow Nigerians that know u too well as the most coward and weak tribe in Nigeria..
The only reason I can come up with is that u trying to feel good within yourselves which may be okay for u but doesn’t change the fact that you still a cowardly tribe.

Look at your ignorance! Atakpame is a settlement of Yorubas in Togo, Sabe in Bénin Republic, Ketu is Bénin Republic, Yoruba are in Ghana. Yoruba are all over Southern America and Northern America.

steveosaz:
Hehehe

You are really a manufacturer of history.

This is a screenshot from a seminal work by a yoruba man Zents Kunle Sowunmi who has demonstrated objectivity in his analysis. He is also a writer and historian amongst many other things.

Here is what he says confirming that ooni was indeed an Oduduwa slave born by a slave woman and accounts for why Alaafin would never accept ooni superiority over him. Same thing Olugbo is saying. And here is all these people telling you that you are an ignoramus of the first order.

Just imaging your ignorance So Ooni is a slave? This is the problem when ignorance is at peak. We don't need to inform you about Ooni because, his stool is the most respected. Why dont deal with your King who is a stranger. Answer the question why there is Unueru treaty at Ekiokpagha?
Oviedo come and answer this question if your King isnt a stranger.

rhektor:
Your major problem is that you don't anything and you don't want to learn to know, you lack the capacity to know since you never ready to learn. How could you ever belive Ooni mean the speared one? You dabble into the language which you know nothing about. Where are you even getting all these fables from? Y0ruba Babaramota olu317 nibo lẹ́yìn àgbààgbà wọ̀nyí tí rí àrè yí? Abegi make iná beat sense into the cranium of these Oviedo clowns

Don't mind the clown. He is an irrelevant dehydrated being. No matter, what you or any one write, he will disagree. Little did know that ILE IFE have all account of all descendants of Oranmiyan. And his resting place is still at ILE IFE. Beside, he is only digressing because what's important is that Oba Bini is a descendant of a Yoruba man.

lawani:
I said EUROPA and YORUBA means thesame. It is a phoenician word meaning West by which the Arabs referred to the europeans, it later came to be used for any non Muslim people with a high degree of civilization. It is also certain that the word Yoruba is not of Yoruba origin, it was first found in the account of the Songhai scholar Ahmed Baba of the 16th century and it was popularised by the Hausa usage of it
https://www.nairaland.com/3641149/yoruba-europa-muslims

EUROPA could not have been Yoruba because , etymologically ,it does not fit . Muslims were the last set of people, to get in contact with Yorubas. Arabs dont call father — Ba, nor do they had kings as their overlord,who is always secluded from the public . And O ba in É yi / U yi O ba or OyO Oba ,shows stem connection from where the word came out of from. The Oyo dialect was the beginning of the continuum of development of the Yoruba language. Take for instance, Aba/Uba/Ba means father and not Baba. Baba means Yoruba ancestor. But Oyo made the word more popular,but in deeper Oyo dialect, Ba is maintain for father. The same is applicable to Olodumare.Eledumare was the correct form or ancient form for it. What about Èri which was the correct form for pronouncing Òri ,so on and so forth.

Moneywomen17:
yoruba bear odutola oduduwa odufuwa tell the Benin boys to tell us a Benin name that start in odu and end in wa in Benin land instead they will be lying about one izoduwa or imaoduwa or elkhaderan depending on which lie is convenient. One day their “lost prince” or by the way their dumb ogiso use for sacrifice is name is elkhadaren today tomorrow is imaoduwa and the next is izoduwa soon another name will come up again lol

They worship our names so dearly like the gods of Greeks . Just imaging, making a name so sacred that, they think such name is for a spirit man

steveosaz:
Keep that Your useless odu to da iwa crap. That's why I said you people keep spinning stories around objects and then call it history.

Coming up with odu to da iwa is a really dumb thing to do.

You are a disgrace to yourself. No wonder, you reason like someone who is ignorant of the world. So, you can understand yorub ? Another form of conquest. In as much as Ododua has no meaning in Edo lexicon,then ,you are a conquered set of people etymologically by Yorubas. In Yoruba language, Odu is the corpus of IFA, and IFA is the account of stories that happened in ancient Yoruba world, connection to seeking solution to human problems and how Creation was made manifest etc. In Simple term; Odudua is the corpus that created a good human character. In fact, a well behave human being with outstanding personality. Little do you know that Yoruba don't belonged to your class. Odu IFA is today known and recognise as The Ifá Divination system which UNESCO conscripted in 2005 and to the list of the " Masterpieces of the Oral and Intangible Heritage of Humanity.
Yoruba Rocks.

steveosaz:
Oduduwa is meaningless in Yoruba. What you con artists did was to spin a likely meaning to it.Just as has been demonstrated over and over in Lagos which still has Edo landmarks till this day, as well as corruption in names originally Edo, thats how Yoruba also corrupted Izoduwa to become Oduduwa. No respect for Yoruba ever. That has been clearly established. You are slaves and it's a taboo everywhere in the world to accord respect to slaves.

Odudua/Oduduwa is a corruption of Izoduwa? How is it really pronounced? Is Ododua or Izoduwa or Ekeherledan the coward? I thought odudua is a royal name in Bini/Edo lexicon? What iz the meaning and I will expose your ignorance to the world. Mind you,if you don't respond, I will still infer on the meaning of Odu ti o da uwa /iwa .Ignorance is a disease ,Mr. steveosaz

Moneywomen17:
in this thread alone we already found out Benin attack some few kingdom in ekiti who later came back for revenge and took their land and women and also their ogiso is dumb and elkhadaren is a fraud let’s see what davidnaze will expose to us next

What can he say? Udo/ Aka/Ika that was defeated dynastically, linguistically and religiously can never look their conqueror in the face . They are the ones that brought this shame on themselves because, without the incoherent outburst of their Oba Erediuwa won't had led to the exposure of who was the ancestor of their kingly Oba lineage. Do you know these people thought Yoruba were gods so much that they don't bear names associated with the king. In fact, many names of their king does not have a meaning in Edo lexicon. Names like : Eweka I, Olua,Oreoghene, Ododua etc are Royal names but does not have meaning in Edo lexicon. Does this not show,we ,Yoruba thought them what they know? Before, the advent of Yoruba coming with Oba title and system,they never had successful family dynasty patterned after Yoruba Ébi system, which was the reason, the Oba knew his ancestor because Oral account was helpful and part eulogy of ones ancestor. Ogiso had no eulogy attached to him but Omo n'Oba n'Edo has . Again, title like: Oliha, Osuma, Osula,Osuan etc are palace titles without meaning in Edo lexicon. Where did the title emanated from? Answers, they have not. Yet these set of clowns will come online and try to destroy Yoruba impacts on Biniland and Edo as a whole. Far be from it because we will reset their malfunctioning knowledge aright so that they see Yorubas and show us a lot of respect because what we did in Ile Ubinu/Ibini .

davidnazee:
Finally indeed lol. After 70 pages of damaging you and ur Yoruba brothers Na now u think u have something? U Yoruba are really slow sha.. no wonder we ruled ur ancestors for over 500yrs till u came up with the idea of selling yourselves so as to be free of Benin.
No worry, u never get anything on me yet, u have to wait 500yrs before u can think of something real to use against me..

Bring evidence Mr man. In fact, do you know your ancestors were from Nok kingdom?There is a similarities between excavated necklace found in Edo and Attah of Igalas kingdom ........You are in historical account trouble. You don't know anything. The only option for you is run away,else new information will keep creeping up to dwarf your baby kingdom.

BabaRamota1980:
Una dey move too fast.

Where are end-time ekaladherans?

You know what?

Ekaladheran is the first popular thing that doesnt end in "do" or begin in "ogi".

Mmmmmm......

He had gone to meet up with his ancestor Ogie n Oriso in Ughotan. Why bother? May be they have a. better version to inform us. Oviedo Davidedo or Davidnazee, come inform us ,where the dead body of Izoduwa/ Imaduwa or Ikeherladan is .

Moneywomen17:
again see the guy that threaten u on nairaland coz how pained he is lol same pattern Yoruba bastard Yoruba demon that’s all they know they learnt it from their ibo master.

I saw him but inconsequential to the issue but always bottle up in anger,yet with nothing to show that his kingdom is relevant, simply because he has nothing to show. Beside, nothing do they have to show. People who lie to be relevant.

Moneywomen17:
again same ibo pattern amala gbegiri ewedu. I know u guys think it’s an insult but many Yoruba do actually like amala and ewedu. What does bearing babaramota as ur monicker which literally means father of ramota with amala and ewedu doesn’t make sense but u don’t care about making sense do u smh lol

Is he lettered? Many of them do not know how the nutrients in Ewedu is beneficial for human consumption. We gave them Pounded yam. We gave them Ewedu. We gave them smoked Plantain. We will continue to give them new varieties . Else, let them die ignorantly without knowledge. Do Edo really have any varieties of agricultural produce? All they know is for their ladies to go to Italy and do the needful as usual.

Moneywomen17:
thanks for that I will save that screenshot ee

Uwc madam

davidnazee:
You are really a fool.. Egba signed to be a British protectorate in 1893.. part of the agreement of that treaty was to form a council of Egba chiefs to govern the people under the watchful eyes of the British.. same thing they did with other tribes..
Don’t twist the story mumuyan like u

Just imaging what you just typed? Your ignorance is at the peak. Anyway as usual ,we are educating you so that you will be more enlightened more than your Edo cum IKA descendants. Egba had autonomy before the treaty. Egba were the set of people, British relied on because of their intelligence on information gathering. In fact ,Egba warriors were part of the people that silenced your Edo soldiers. See your life? Hate us ,we don't care but in truth ,we stand and inform the public. Bitter truth..

davidnazee:
Of course e pain me say British destroyed my beautiful kingdom unlike u that doesn’t care that your ancestors bargained ur destiny and pride away result of which the Yorubas are now know as a cowardly and useless tribe lol..

Yeah they destroyed your tiny kingdom because you were irrelevant. Did you know that the governor of Lagos ,walked through the bush to ILE IFE to appease the warring factions in late 1870s and early 1890s when the war ended? In less than six-seven years Bini was pillaged. This is how British feared and respected Yorubas for her organization . When your ancestors were in the bush,trying to form bravery . After your ancestors,not Oba Bini but Uzamas were busy with doing nothing and cluesless, around 1822 ,that Clapperton was escorted by Yorubas from Badagry on a safe trip through to Katunga before he went further North. At this period, ancestors were looking for Ogie n oriso as well as Osanobua to take the blood of the Innocent men and women ignorantly as a sacrifice. No wonder, you are irrelevant till today..Read what came out of Clapperton and Landers for you to know we already heavily dealing in wool cultivation, and well mannered, when you were not relevant.

Obalufon:
British think of you people as barbaric savages that needed to burnt at stake ... the order given by the British was to capture your king and hang him and his chiefs ..But they spare the king and hung the senior chiefs openly as a deterrent for other like you people ...

Oba Bini was not hung because of his ancestor was Ooni. Yoruba pleaded with the British not to hang him..... This is the reason the chiefs were not spared..... Bloody set of ignorant people.

davidnazee:
So you believe the white mans excuse of human sacrifice in Benin to invade our kingdom lol.. an excuse they still use till this day whenever they want to invade any nation that doesn’t agree with them.
Well it is not news that Yorubas are the most brainwashed Africans on earth.. I sorry for your people.

As for human sacrifices and rituals who does that if not the Yorubas? Everyday u hear news of children, women, people being used for rituals in Yoruba lands.. Hardly you will hear that news any other place in Africa only Yoruba..
You guys are doomed..

Who told you Yorubas don't do human sacrifice like others did? The difference is that your Edo kingdom thought human sacrifice will help you win wars against Yorubas, Nupe ,Kwarafas but you all failed because human sacrifices couldn't save you all but war strategies. Yoruba were warriors that fought Nupe, Tapa,Dahomey, Hausas and always ended victorious . Do you doubt? Sultan Mohammed that told clapperton about Yorubas and accused Yorubas of selling the captured Hausas to Christians . Edo was not known for wars but Art work and pepper sale. I mock you
Below is your wasted lifestyle despite you claim your Oba sent his appointed son to visit Portugal, yet in futility. See what David Van Nyendael and Olfert Dapper, who are researchers said about Bini Kingdom

davidnazee:
Are you babaramota’s cousin? Because he is the only one who make the dumbest and most moronic statement like this..
do u know the meaning of legends?
We celebrate and touts our heroes not our legends..
so you can continue to sing about your legend of the man descending from the skies in chains or of the man that can draw fire and thunder from the heavens it’s ur business..

Name your legend, Mr.man? Proof to us you have nothing associated with Yorubas. Edo people even went as far as making some Yoruba names sacred..... Just imaging these set of people that can't name their children Yoruba names of their king? You only referred to them as 'Royal names' in your lexicon. Bloody irrelevant set of people. In fact ,if Oba Binis aren't strangers, why do they bear names that other Edos don't answer? I will continue to punish you for my ancestor's sake.

davidnazee:
Chai.. that’s all ur can say? That was a very weak response, the weakest response so far from the Yorubas in the forum. Clap for ur self, u just won the award for weakest response.. Babaramota won award for the most moronic Yoruba in the forum, Y0ruba won award for the most foolish Yoruba scholar and now u don win too.
Yoruba never ceases to amaze.

We have our own legends but we don’t brag about them because it’s just legends. We prefer real things that can be verified..

I dont blame you for your ignorance but your Oba Erediuwa that conjure a classified fable on Yoruba history in your huts kingdom. Little do you know that David Van Nyendael,Olfert Dapper wrote about Bini declination.Your smallish city was bewitched with retrogressive knowledge of human sacrifice and slave trade that even depopulated Bini. Is Bini a kingdom or a community? Whatever you like, call it ,but the truth is that ,you are a bloody irrelevant group as at today. Do you know why? You lost you touch with your source. Even Oba Bini, even threatened your Ashewos and others with Juju. This only showed that you're indeed a land of vexation . Bloody set of Yoruba followers, that learned about Olokun ,Ogun, Ifa etc from Yorubas. Even itsé is a borrowed word from asé ,which has no etymology in Edo language. I mock you and your ignorance.

davidnazee:
Benin Kingdom conquered all of Eastern Yoruba, deal with it. Don’t blame me go blame your weak ancestors for allowing it to happen and giving me the edge over you to yab u with it.

Yeah I do have legends as ancestors but do you have any to reckon with? I am waiting to read their names.

Y0ruba:
Olu ibini needs to line him & his co travellers up & pump hot leads in them. He is making Bini look bad. Poor comprehension skills & poor analytical abilities. If he had focused on Bini’s economic-military activities, it would not have been ao bad.

Interestingly, I stumbled on a research by Prof. Ekpo Eyo who excavated a burial site from where burial stuff related to the remains of Bini kings brought to Ife. I want them to beh so i can throw that out there.

,so when Oviedo bée ,you will unleashed the document? I am waiting for them to do the needful.

Moneywomen17:
e pain am well why not say 1000 Kiss the truth U only won against those 6 kingdoms and centuries later not only did they kick ur ass after they got modern warfare they came to the heart of ur own kingdom conquer ur town and u had to beg instead like a coward instead of fight smh.

Less than a decade not century before being chased out . The contact with Europeans around 1485 gave them such edge but always lost it. All wars Bini fought against Yorubas were lost at later time to yorubas. In fact, they fought Igalas,the Bini lost. The Bini fought against Itsekiri ,the Bini lost. . Even a descendant of Oba Bini is in Ekiti but pledge his allegiance to Ooni Oranmiyan–Odudua. Does this not show fraudulent act by revisionism of Oba Eredieuwa and the Uzamas who tried to twist history? We know our story, family by family and lineage by lineage, even when intermarriage is involved.

Moneywomen17:
e pain am well why not say 1000 Kiss the truth U only won against those 6 kingdoms and centuries later not only did they kick ur ass after they got modern warfare they came to the heart of ur own kingdom conquer ur town and u had to beg instead like a coward instead of fight smh.

Less than a decade.

steveosaz:
Yorubas are historical pillagers, so it wouldn't be out of place to regulate their access to palace information.
You people are known to work from the answer to the question - that's your stock in trade.

Meanwhile, tell us why the Olugbo of Ugbo is puncturing the falsehood and the blatant lie telling of the ooni.

Also tell us why the Alaafin and the Olugbo are both saying the ooni is a deceptive impersonator and stranger.

Even the Olugbo also quoted the Benin palace when they said Oduduwa was their lost prince.

Till tomorrow, there are millions of yorubas who would defend with their last blood the claim that Oduduwa came from Mecca via Egypt (this is simply to dodge another narrative that Oduduwa migrated to Ife from eastwards which ordinarily tallies with the Edo story).

There are yet still, millions of yorubas out there who say that Oduduwa came from heaven.

So at what point did you people revise all these and come up with the comical versions people like you now hide under the mango tree writing?

Dude, Yoruba history is a cow with multiple horns - no direction. It wouldn't even make a good storyline for children's cartoon.

Bring proof where Olugbo and Alaafin formed alliance? Looking for an escape root? Never. What concerns Oviedo with Yorubas highest position ? Face your only Oba,who refused to let you all know the meaning of Oba until Ewuare informed the who world that ,the word, ‘Oba' is a Yoruba word for king.Yoruba rocks.

Y0ruba:
I’m weak

Fam, you is one ‘helluva’ dumbfxxk.

Ekitiparapo was Ijesa, Ife, Ijebu, Imesi. They ganged to fight Ibadan for balance of power. This event happened looooooong after the 6 towns Bini invaded had crushed your army.

So in your olodo mind Bini invaded Ekitiparapo?

Olu317, BabaRamota, Obalufon eyin egbon mi, come & see blockheadedness in full gear. I can’t stopcracking up.

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/mtbu.gif

Davidzee or Davidnazee is a bloody clown. It is better he change his name/monicker to Davidedo ,since do do do are prevalent in their lexicon. He should not be taken serious, in whatsoever.

Cheers.

davidnazee:
Oh so Akure, Ondo were not part of pre-colonial Ekiti land? You and all your brothers you mentioned should be ashamed of yourselves..
Anyways Benin Conquered all of Eastern Yoruba.. The fear of Benin was the beginning of wisdom of your ancestors, a fear which lingered on till you were set free by the British..
Please also get it into your blockhead that it was Benin soldiers that helped you guys in your fight against Ibadan..

imagine how unstudied you are! A real big disappointment to Oviedos. So ,Bini conquered all of them ? You are really the biggest clown of all time on NL. You can even posit Bini conquered ILEIFE . Bloody liar.....

davidnazee:
Oh so Akure, Ondo were not part of pre-colonial Ekiti land? You and all your brothers you mentioned should be ashamed of yourselves..
Anyways Benin Conquered all of Eastern Yoruba.. The fear of Benin was the beginning of wisdom of your ancestors, a fear which lingered on till you were set free by the British..
Please also get it into your blockhead that it was Benin soldiers that helped you guys in your fight against Ibadan..

imagine how unstudied you are! A real big disappointment to Oviedos. So ,Bini conquered all of them ? You are really the biggest clown of all time on NL. You can even posit Bini conquered ILE . Bloody liar.

steveosaz:
So you have finally stooped so low to the point of quickly claiming ownership of an evil invention as cultism that has wrecked immeasurable havoc on the educational system of Nigeria? There's nothing desperation wouldn't lead a man to do. Please, nobody is dragging that with you. You should also claim Satan as well.

Why not deal with the root cause of the issue instead of emotionally trying to be ignorantly innocent? Your Edo brother threatened to deal with me if it wasn't NL. What an insult! I only gave him a pill to reset his shallowness. Someone as he shouldnt be allowed on NL if I have my way on NL, I compel people to use either their name as part of their monicker or use friendly monicker that is devoid of anything that has to do with any form of weapon but I don't have such authority. And if you refer to cultic groups as Yoruba's pride ,then, you shouldn't forget that even the masquerade and societies done in secrecy in African community and elsewhere in the world are also cults. Even Christianity was once done in secrecy because of persecution, which made it a cultic group before the religion gradually gained access to the larger societies. To even go further, religion as a whole is a cult. Mind you, this thread isn't about digression on cultism because students cultism has over the years done more harm than any good associated with it. But don't blame me ,instead, blame the young man that preferred to identified with an identity/monicker as ‘axxemen' ,on a social media, where he threatened someone,who is not with the same school of thought with him. Good back to the former pages and read ,then ,ponder over such statement..Period