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@Hati13, I am not interested in engaging some set people who engage in controversial statement. If you are really interested in Yoruba history ,then you can find time to dissect the set of people that claimed Yoruba on this platform shy away from the truth or some who have no knowledge of human and migratory theory. I am willing to help out on it. First, I am sure, you know the nosal feature of a Ham? Does this nose looked like core black man? I am also sure , you can identify a moon/ Sun like on a crown? Can anyone find anything close to this in West Africa?

Hati13:
Olu317,

Some scholars are suggesting that Semitic originated in Ethiopia. If all scholars accept this in the future, will you still continue to believe that Yoruba or pre-Yoruba came from Middle East?

Suggestion isn't the same as etymology and other linkable evidence. What is more important is to find the melting point. And I have given information on the advent of Yoruba language that's not in existence in West Africa. I stil hold to my assertion to semitic origin of yoruba or ancient Hebrew language was the Yoruba language. This language left middle East due to slavery and destruction of Jerusalem and Israel as a whole. Further more Yoruba people have been studied for decades by Western authors and funny enough studies is still being carried out on this ethnicity to ascertain why everything about Yoruba looked alien to Africa. Again, Yoruba blood sample is among the ones used to identify DNA Admixture blood related humanoid. Let me ask you another word, that is eternal within Yoruba language. Alujonu/Aljonu is a Yoruba word for spirit . And this word is a Semitic word that exist in Yoruba land and it didn't come to Yoruba lexicon as a result of religion of christainity or islam but existed thousands of years in Yoruba land. In Yoruba land father is Ba/ Aba/Uba and thunder mean (Àra). These words survived thousands of years among the users of the words. And these two words have Semitic link, with same meaning. There are other words too.
Kindly inform what father and thunder are in Ethiopia language and campare?

steveosaz:
Am really happy about this thread, it made me understand some very important things. The ooni(being a slave's stool) but made into a powerful office by colonialists and dubious politicians like Awo. Then coming to the present ooni (Adeyeye), we've posted pictures here of him bowing to Saraki (which ordinarily should be an abomination) and I kept wondering why a monarch of his stature would stoop so low. Then we got to the issue of yorubas selling kingship to the highest bidders and not giving respect to order of succession. Again, Adeyeye's name comes up in a rather unflattering picture. He is accused by Sijuwade's family, other Yoruba people including Yoruba lawyer Rotimi Jacobs of being a fraudster and forger of documents(case currently with EFCC). He then begins to tell tales of how the issue had been settled and how Oba Akiolu(same Akiolu who snubbed him publicly) and Tinubu(notorious for installing stooges as kings) are aware of the whole thing. It now appears Akiolu was reacting to the ooni's misbehavior after the role they(Akiolu and Tinubu) played in the installation of Adeyeye as ooni and that's why he snubbed him publicly.
This case ooni has with his fellow royal family people with the EFCC coupled with his unmerited installation as ooni by politicians is what makes him to kowtow and bow to them in public unconsciously.

This is the type of fraud yo-robber people have all through history perpetrated which has now formed the bulk of their chequered history. And they are very much still in the practice.

Just imaging how unlettered you are ? Can your Oba go the Americas and proclaim a city as the Capital of Bini outside Biniland? Ooni went to Bahia and declared this in Brazil. And made a diaspora CAPITAL OF YORUBA OUTSIDE Yorubaland in in southwest and North central Nigeria
After you finish reading the speech of the direct descendant of Odudua( Oranmiyan lineage)....then hate yourself for being a slave descendant of Ogiamien
The declaration reads in parts: "Ooni Adeyeye Enitan Babatunde Ogunwusi, Ojaja II, Ooni of Ile Ife,

By the power and ase given to me by the ancestors and the 400 Irunmole of the Yoruba orisa pantheon as the Arole Oduduwa, SOLE OCCUPIER of the Source throne of Oduduwa, the mystical founder and father of the entire Yoruba nation, both in the African homeland and in diaspora, do hereby decree and solemnly declare as follows;
1. That this nobel land of Bahia de todos as Santos shall henceforth be officially referred to and recognised as the Yoruba capital of the Americas.
2. That this solemn declaration is being accorded in recognition of the long standing historical and cultural protagonism of the African descendants in this land, who have laboured incessantly in the course of the last five centuries to preserve the African, especially the Nago-Yoruba cultural, historical and religious worldwide which they kept alive by dint of collective determination as a source of cultural and communal pride, sociopolitical and economic emancipation.
3.That the citizens and children of this noble land shall henceforth be considered as authentic children of the great Oduduwa in the same way as their brothers and sisters in the Yorubaland.
4. That the land of Bahia de todos as Santos shall henceforth be invoked in all the prayers and blessings offered in the palace of Oonirisa, Alase Adimula in Ile Oduduwa, especially on the annual occasion of the Olojo festival when the Ooni wears the ancient and the most sacred Are crown to bless the entire Yoruba nation and the il'eya omo Oduduwa, when the Ooni celebrates his coronation anniversary with the world.
Responding, Christiane Taquari, Bahia state Commissioner for Culture, commended the royal father for the visit, and assured him of their readiness to obey all his admonitions and further preserve Yoruba traditions and culture.
Also in a remarks Ambassador of Guinea Bissau to Brazil, Dr. Rui Barai, acknowledged the leadership role Nigerian government has been playing in Africa, especially West Africa at ensuring that peace reigns across the region.
Barai added that he chose to attend the event because of severial reports about activities of Ooni Ogunwusi he has read and urged him not to relent in his pursuance of peace and efforts aimed at reuniting all descendants of the Yoruba race.
Also commenting, honourary consular, Guinea Bissau to Brazil, Adailton Maturino does Santos, called for support for Ooni Ogunwusi for him to successful implement all his laudable programmes designed to foster unity among the descendants of Oduduwa.
He added: "News about Ooni's peace project is all over the world. He needs support by all to successful implement all he plans, as successful implementation of the programmes will foster peace and engender economic prosperity for the Yoruba race."

Looking at Mulattoo Yorubas.

lawani:
The name was not given by our people

If the name was not given to identify Princes how come Bini had such knowledge? After all, the Igodo people didn't practice Obaship but use the word for Oranmiyan son. And again, I am one of those that believed eulogy is a key to unravelling some information. At the very tail end of Ooni's descendants eulogy(Oranmiyan's descendants) always end as Kaare O ba mi or input his name if he is an Ooni. The point is that Oba did not exist before Oyo and when Oranmiyan established her properly , O ba as a term for king took root. And from Oyo ,Yoruba begun a new contact with other set of people on trade. This is my submission.

MetaPhysical:
If you advocate that Yoruba beginning is indigenous then bring us these truths using indigenous markers to tag the different characters of language, arts, rites, priesthood, deities, and so on sourced directly from the immediate environment. This means each and all of the aspects you use or examine cannot have any foreign attributes to them. If you cannot isolate an indigenous character from a foreign attribute then you will need to account for its foreign root.

C'mon, its your turn to give us your side of the truths.

You really did great with such research you have done on Yoruba. First, Ogun(human) in Yoruba history was said to be a great warrior and a descendant of Odudua,right? Funny enough, the same name appeared in Middle East account because the etymology of ‘Og’ in Middle East is with association to a warriors of the Rephaim people, according to a researcher called, Chaim Rabin , who suggested, something similar to the South Semitic ǵwg , meaning ‘man’ or ‘man of valour. The same with Yoruba meaning of Ogun. Let me quickly, inform again that Western researchers do not realise that the correct meaning of Jerusalem, is with ancient Yoruba etymology of combination of three compound words— Ile Orisa mi / Ule Ursa m(i), ( land/ of my God/s or the land I worship my God/ ancestors ) which is similar to its earliest pronunciation ,which is Ursalim.The first sure reference to the city is in the Amarna Letters, an archive of correspondence discovered in Upper Egypt dating from the 14th century BCE, about 2,700 years ago. In those letters, between Egypt and their administrators in Canaan (which Egypt controlled at the time), the name is rendered as "Ursalim". But what does the name mean? According to their study, "Ursalim" is most likely a compound of two words(not true but three compound words) in Western Semitic (a prehistoric language that would later birth Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, Ethiopic and more): the verb yaru (“to establish”) and the name Shalim (or Salem) was the Canaanite god of dusk, sunset, and the end of the day, also spelled Shalim. Many scholars believe that his name is preserved in the name of the city.

MetaPhysical:
There are records which universally acknowledge that the clans of Arabia were at one point racially black. I understand that you might not be aware of this fact because typically we do not go looking to read Arab history, we gravitate towards the study and literatures of Western society and their history.

The fact blacks once occupied Arabian peninsula is not academically disputed, neither is history silent on it.

There once existed a "Yaraba" tribe in the history of Oman and were the ruling caste in that land. Modern Oman is a Sultanate and there was a time in its history when it worshipped idols and gods. Even the monarchs in the UAE have members of their family with negro features. There is a port on the border between Syria and Iraq called "rab al-Yoruba". Syria is an ancient land and is the remnant or residue of a much expanse territory called Assyria, one of their oldest surviving clan is the "Alawiye" or "Alawiy"; compare this with Yoruba's "Alawiye". "Bakare"; "Gbadamosi"; "Aremo";..these are all traditional Yoruba names but compare their Arabic equivalents - Abubakar; Bhadmas; Amir.

In fact, -m-r- is the root for the words "Mariwo" (Yoruba); "Aremo" (Yoruba); "Amir" (Arabic); "Emir" (Hausa).

Mariwo is the palm fronds used in Yoruba rites of coronation.
Aremo in Yoruba is Prince.
Amir in Arabic is Prince
Emir in Hausa is Monarch.

Yoruba did not borrow these words. Fulani borrowed the term Emir, it is not Hausa, it came from Arabs.

Arab literatures and history is not popular here and people who grew up and trained to view anything non-Western as substandard and with suspicion will not readily have the state of mind to just accept what Im saying as a possibility and a fact, and to those people I will recommend that knowledge is universal, not limited to Western ideologies - expand your reading base!



I only made that book reference in response to your probe on Asara. The chronology of Lamurudu/Oduduwa/Mohammed/Islam in Mecca is a different issue.

I do not refer people to books and sources but I help quest by giving hints and I leave people to navigate their own way through books but I make myself available to answer questions or clarify where needed. If I dont know I will say so. So I apologize if the reference I made raised more confusion or gave contradictions.

For myself the only authority I hold on to on Yoruba history and roots is what comes out of Ooni's palace and Alaafin's palace; their narrations point us outside of modern Yorubaland and into a distant and foreign land. This is why I regard "Myths of Ife" as a concrete proof on Yoruba civilization and where it originated from.

Does this mean I do not read and appreciate other writers? No, not at all. I enjoy Robin Law, Robert Smith, Dierk Lange, even that thief, Leo Frobenius..but I just simply do not see them as authority on the footprints of Yoruba.




Please, let's not go here.. Opa Oranmiyan is a stone material and was never a living organism. Carbondating is reserved for organic materials. Anyone that carbondated Opa Oranmiyan is a fraud. The staff did not predate Oduduwa or Oranmiyan.

If there were people existing on that land before the arrival of Yorubas then the name of that land was not Ile Ife.




Lol. My book..? The only book I will own on this subject of Yoruba roots is Myths of Ife. There are views and opinions and interests all of which is published as books. Its important to read them and understand other peoples opinions and interests and appreciate their effort. Nobody is wrong but everybody cannot be authority..there can only be one authority, for me Ooni is that authority on roots - he is backed up by Alaafin's supporting claim.

In fact, go and read Obasanjo's biography where he talks about his father, grandfather and great grandfather and the history down the ages. Obasanjo is Owu by ethnicity, an original Oyo clan. War drove them down south to Abeokuta - the city of refuge! He referred to his father as Papa, his grandfather as Baba Alarobo and great-grandfather as Baba Elesin, which means his great-grandfather may have kept stabled horses. Historically significant! Was Obasanjo the son of royal courtiers or Yoruba army cavalry? The story down his family line is a root that started in Mecca. Obasanjo is Christian and an accomplished leader, his view and account on Yoruba history cannot be dismissed.




Ancient people and events were recorded using natural elements.

The year of the sun eclipse..
The day of the raining brimstones..
The season of the flood..

Modern dating took these events and using a formula (proven) established a protocol for chronological entries in human experience.

None of us were there, not even the people that invented calendar dating. Only God knows!

However, the people that invented calendar dating are humans like us. They employed "deductive reasoning" to arrive at concise facts. Why cant we do same? Is there any rule or law that forbids me or you from using deductive reasoning to extract facts? Is there any rule that forbids us from raising theories?

If an African American comes to you and say look pal, I come from your family, how would you go about elininating that possibility? Will you go into libraries looking for books and chronicles that record his ancestry? No. You will want to observe the human factors..the family traditions and rites in his past, dna, pictures of ancestors to see features and commonalities. The more matches occur the higher the credibility of his assertions. What appeared at first to be a theory may end up becoming a breakthrough revelation.

Outside of books, are there other aspects of Yoruba custons, arts, rites that connect it with indigenous nehro races?

We have Olokun, Yemoja, Sango, Obatala, Isise, Edumare, Ifa Corpus, ...outside of proto Yoruba groups, all these institutions do not find match anywhere in subsaharan Africa. If you expand the terrain, you start finding matches for them in foreign lands outside subsahara and concentrated in a particular area.

What does this mean? Do we need writers trained in Western ideologies to open our brain and help us figure out what is obvious? No, we must make our own truth from what is innate in our own culture and customs.




It will be redundant to say any more, i think I saidmore than i need to already.

God Bless bro.

Incredibly breathtaking, instructive and a master piece of information from you.

isalegan2:
Rashidi Yekini
Mutiu Adepoju
David Alaba
Obafemi Martins
Dele Ali

Peter Rufai
Best Ogedengbe (that's for the old folks )

Add to the list if you can.

We can include legendary Nigerian footballers regardless of tribe.

Segun Odegbami

steveosaz:
You are irretrievably dumb! Ekaladerhan(Oduduwa) was a priest and herbal expert at Ife. Oramiyan his son, fathered Eweka. The slave son of the slave woman who served under Oduduwa was the one who became ooni. Stop making a fool of yourself with your paraplegic comprehension. Read it written by a Yoruba man like yourself.

From which scholar did this Oba Bini worshipper got this from ? We know who we are as Yorubas .Do you know your ancestors ? Start from there... I mock you Oviedo

davidnazee:
So ifa can be used to validate parentage? It’s as authentic as DNA?? Gawdammit. You yorubas are hilarious �

Just look at what you have been posted. You lacked knowledge on Yoruba history and you refused to study . Have you no studying attitude that Ifa Heritage Institute, Nigeria is the only Higher Education institution in the world that specializes in the study of all aspects of Yoruba indigenous culture ? Ifa was incorporated in November 2005, into UNESCO (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) proclaimed Ifá as one of the 86 traditions of the world to be regarded as Masterpieces of the Oral and Intangible Heritage of Humanity.
This is the gift of God to Yoruba and the world at large. Proudly Omoluabi

steveosaz:
See this shameless comedian. So what has your blind ifa been looking at all this while that traditional stools were being sold to the highest bidder in yorubaland?

You sound thoroughly stupid and ridiculous for even bringing it such a laughable line of thought.

Is Ooni Ogunwusi the richest Odudua descendant ? You are absolutely ignorant.

davidnazee:
Babaramota has confirmed that the Yorubas migrated from only god knows where. They are aliens in Nigeria

Is it not in your Uzamas account according to Jacob Egbaravbe and Dmitri Borandenko that Edo were migrant too ?

steveosaz:
Shut the fvck up, boe your freaking head down and learn punk! Ooni was a fvcking slave to Oduduwa, born by a fvcking slave woman who was captured and used as sacrifice. His tutelage under Oduduwa coupled with oranmiyan's refusal to ascend the throne is what many refer to as usurpation especially since direct descendants of that slave boy are the ones becoming ooni while the only thing left to remember oranmiyan is his staff.

Just look at your uneducated brain ? Go ask for the story of Orunto.You kept jumping from ignorance to pseudo historical account . I just wonder if you really do a bit of research internent before you send anything on a forum as this . You are basically too lazy. Anyway, I know your problem......And it is because, you have been battered from all angle with fact from Yoruba land

davidnazee:
You are actually the confused one..
First of all, this present Oni is not a direct lineage of oduduwa. History as confirmed his ancestor usurped the throne from oduduwa’s son after oduduwa died. You can correct me if I’m wrong.

Secondly, who are the original speakers of the Yoruba language? Is it the immigrants (convenant founders) or the aboriginals?

Go ask the ask Ogie n riso the the speakers of ancient yoruba language.

lawani:
It is known for a fact that the first written reference is in Ahmed Baba of Songhai's books of the 16th century and it is known for a fact that the word was popularised by Hausas

Truthfully, it was Baba Ahmed who wrote in his travelling account that Yoruba' exist as a name of a people. But there was no way he was the one that gave us the name, because he couldn't have imagined the name without hearing it from the people. The etymology of the name itself doesn't have any link with the language of Songhai .

BabaRamota1980:
A true Empire, a civilized people know their history throughly and then know the history of their neighbours as well. Why is it Yoruba is teaching Edo its history and that of its neighbors? Because they are uncivilized. Can you believe they had no clue that their palace face mask is in posession of Attah. They were at first arguing until we proved it.

Nupe and Yoruba, Baruba and Yoruba, Kanuri and Yoruba.....even Daura, yes...the Hausa Origin in Daura....hold on let me say this clearly.


There are two sets of people in Nigeria, the Aborigines and the Immigrants.


Ife aborigines (Ugbo), Nupe aborigines, Igala aborigines, Edo aborigenes (Efa), Ijaw aborigines, Ibo aborigines (ngwa), all these people have one root and that is the Niger-Benue basin.....these were descendants of NOK.


The traces of commonality in spoken language of Southern people have its roots in the Niger-Benue clan.


Then there is a band of Nilotic/Semitic settlers that arrived in waves. These ones brought with them king-priest covenants.

They entered here through the Chad water basin and settled there. A band of them remained in Chad. The rest moved down to the Niger-Benue water basin and remained there.

There were two distribution paths.

1. The Chad band spread westward into another water basin in Daura. From here they formed the Habe dynasty. The group that remained in Chad formed the Kanemi dynasty.

2. The Niger-Benue settlers went westward as well. They stopped on the Niger River. From here they broke into three directions.

a. Nupe
b. Baruba
c. Ile Ife

Each had its dynasty.

The Ile Ife party formed Oduduwa dynasty. They are known as Yoruba.

The Ife dynasty further spread out into the East, including Bini. Bini also gave spring to more dynasties.


So all the aborigines now have foreign settlers ruling over them.
How about Ngwa?

A band of Nilotic people had also migrated further away from Chad and down into the Congo basin. This group are nomadic. Some of them settled in Cameroun and others found their way into Nigeria and into the Ngwa land. Strangely, they had no dynasty and did not establish rulership. This due to the fact the settlers were hunters, not Kings or Priests. This set is the Igbo clan. Their King and Priests were left behind in Congo.

Similar movement occurred with Awori, a priest lineage that went and found new settlements on the coast but did not set up dynasty but Bini came afterward and extended its dynasty to rule over them. Bini dynasty also ruled a part of Iboland.

Yeah,you are correct about migration pattern.

Moneywomen17:
u dey mind that liar if they can say omo n oba means the shining white what can’t they say. So ada now mean outside too

That's how some Oviedo act as usual to save face. I just wonder,what could be the reason, they kept revising historic account, just to make them feel important. Well, I am sure, guest (s) readers would definitely acknowledge easily, the liars from the kingdom of Igodomigodo(Udo),that tried bitterly to claim what's not theirs. Anyway, their cunningly opinions have been ridiculed, with evidence of etymology/lexicon that their Oba is from Yorubaland.

davidnazee:
Do you know that it was mighty Benin Kingdom that helped Oyo monarchy reclaim Oyo back from Nupe after 100yrs in exile?

Hahahahaha.You have lost it......Sorry

steveosaz:
Its you who is clearly doing selective revisionism.

Isn't it rather strange that you seem not to be aware that the British operated with the instrumentality of indirect rule which made it necessary for them to impose stooges as kings and also rejig arrangements of traditional societies.

Kings were deposed all over Nigeria by the Brits and those who showed loyalty were allowed to remain.

Your type of selective historians would always regard the Awujale as a revisionist, but the Awujale made solid points and several instances where he had made clarification on the Alake issue with the Alake present and strangely, the Alake never issued a rejoinder.

Where there ever any records of traditional rulers organizing meetings amongst themselves prior to the coming of the Brits?

The British set up a system that worked for them while dubious politicians coming after them perpetuated those unhealthy practices. Awolowo was particularly notorious for such, to the extent of taking it to the issue of olu of warri.

The point still remains, there has never been any list of hierarchy of Yoruba kings. The Alake is dubious and a fraud and is clearly the one revising history. Awujale stated his position properly. I'm sure, the Alaafin would be happy to see him placed second on some list written under a mango three.

Read for yourself and see the Awujale totally destroy the Alake. http://punchng.com/alake-is-a-junior-king-in-yorubaland-awujale/

You need be given a knock on the head for this your nonsensical statement. Have not read that ILEIFE was the source of Yorubas. Even Kingdoms that are older than OYO ,BINI,IJEBU, OKUN, IWO,IKOYI , acknowledged Ooni and ILEIFE . Go visit Orangun ILA( the first son of Odua) , Owu, Popo King, Oniketu , Obokun etc and ask them, whose seat is supreme? They will inform you as Oba Bini acknowledge recently that Ooni seat, is the most revered ,because it was the seat of their ancestor, called , Oduduwa/Admila . Funny enough, Oranmiyan sustained this legacy and his descendants uphold it .
Qed.

BabaRamota1980:
Great point!

Consider this...
Ado/Udo/Edo/Idu

Yoruba own these people.

If i tell them their history here dem go cry. Their witchery will not save dem from shedding tears by time i conclude. But we must keep some weapon in the back pocket.....cant let it all out just like that.


Olu,
Ask them the meaning of Ada/Uda/Ida. I want to hear their explanation.




Watch....they are going to respond with picture of a Yoruba in turban. They are combing internet to find a tie to fulani. Edo and witchery ehhn, mmmtchhew

They have no answer and will not do but conjure all form of fairytale . We have proven to them,that Oba Bini belong to Yoruba. Ada is an imported word likewise Asé which Bini calls Itsé etc. In the future,when anyone doubt aand stumble on this thread, knowledge would be acquire that Yoruba have no problems once the Edos don't revise our connection to Oba Bini.Oba and his bini's households are Yoruba's property.

davidnazee:
Lol.. Ada in Edo language means outside..
it may also mean something in other languages. I had expected that you shud know that there are some words that sound the same in different languages but have different meanings in each language..
Arguing with u guys have made me realize that Yorubas are not really educated as claimed. There are dull Yorubas like babaramota. That guy is a slowpoke..

So Ada isnt the ‘sword' being carried by Oba Bini's messenger when he walks publicly to show his strength in his kingdom ? Hmmm Ada and outside indeed ? Show me a proof that it mean outside in Bini language. Oba Bini,whose ancestors were bloody Yoruba men used the word for sword. Proof it wrong

davidnazee:
Like I said earlier you are a cheap mugu.. so igbos that answer Ada as name got it from Yoruba?

let me teach you a little about Yoruba etymology on Ada. There are many words in yoruba lexicon that has these same letters but different meaning . So, dont drag ‘AdaObi’, which is an Ibo name for first daughter in Iboland, because they are different. In yoruba, Àdà (sword), Àda ní(creator) Àdami(my creator), Âda( create ), Àdamo (created being from soil), Olú da silé ( the creator ). Àda/Uda/Ida is Yoruba word for sword. This doesn't mean, it can't be shared but strangely only Oba Bini use such word for his sword,which is usually carried infront of him . This is the point. Proof me wrong

davidnazee:
Like I said earlier you are a cheap mugu.. so igbos that answer Ada as name got it from Yoruba?

let me teach you a little about Yoruba etymology on Ada. There are many words in yoruba lexicon that has these same letters but different meaning . So, dont drag ‘AdaObi’, which is an Ibo name for first daughter in Iboland, because they are different. In yoruba, Àdà (sword), Àda ní(creator) Àdami(my creator), Âda( create ), Àdamo created being), Olú da silé ( the creator ). Àda/Uda/Ida is Yoruba word for sword. This doesn't mean, it can't be shared but strangely only Oba Bini uses it and such word for his sword . This is the point. Proof me wrong

steveosaz:
You have been cooking history here all the way long. But the thing is; The civil wat was never an all out tribal war. While it was tribal for the Igbo's, to the rest of Nigeria (which the Midwest belongs), it wasn't so. So when the Igbo's invaded the Midwest and proclaimed a non existent country that lasted barely 48 hrs, it would have been totally nonsensical for the Midwesterners to Marshal local forces to dislodge them, but rather wait for the federal troops to do the dislodgement themselves just as was in the case of Ore. Use your common sense sometimes.

Federal troop indeed! Benjamin Adekunle and newly recruited Yoruba fought. Go check Tell magazine interview he granted in late 1990s. Don't digress, Below screenshot was what Edos claim.
Sorry is your case.....

steveosaz:
You have been cooking history here all the way long. But the thing is; The civil wat was never an all out tribal war. While it was tribal for the Igbo's, to the rest of Nigeria (which the Midwest belongs), it wasn't so. So when the Igbo's invaded the Midwest and proclaimed a non existent country that lasted barely 48 hrs, it would have been totally nonsensical for the Midwesterners to Marshal local forces to dislodge them, but rather wait for the federal troops to do the dislodgement themselves just as was in the case of Ore. Use your common sense sometimes.

Federal troop indeed! Benjamin Adekunle and newly recruited Yoruba fought. Go check Tell magazine interview he granted in late 1990s. Don't digress, Below screenshot was what Edos claim.
Sorry is your case.

steveosaz:
This is coming from the Oluwo himself.

Just look at your ignorance. This was what Late professor Leo Frobenuis wrote about yoruba .. He said, cultural practices amongst North Africans are similar to those of the Yorubas and he thinks that it was easier to travel from North Africa to Yorubaland than from Egypt to Yorubaland (Frobenius 1968:186–204). Frobenius says that the Yoruba and the Atlantic culture share:
• Water storage construction systems. He emphasised that the style of houses constructed by the Yorubas was similar to those used by the Etruscans, Moroccans and Algerians whereby the Impluvium is built in the centre of the house whilst apartments with verandas are built in a rectangular form.
• The construction of their houses. Yorubas construct houses with ridge roofs that are similar to those in North Africa.
• The colour and form of bows and arrows used by the Yorubas are similar to those in Morocco.
• The North African hand loom, unknown in the Sudan, is found amongst Yoruba woman.
• The drum shape and other articles peculiar to North Africa are not found in the Sudan, but are found in Yorubland.
• The existence of the ‘Templum ’, amongst both the Yorubas and North Africans whereby houses are built round a temple or sacred building; even in towns, houses were generally built around sacred buildings.

You hate Yorubas at your own peril. Have you no knowledge of history ? Even the knot in Naira isnt from the North but From Yorubaland. But dont digress the issue? Anyway, If Oluwo was a fulani,then ,know Oba Bini's ancestors, that rule you are Fulanis

BabaRamota1980:
These people have practically written everybody's history on their behalf and inserted themselves as primary founder or kingmaker of the culture.

Type Igala, type Nupe, type Oduduwa, type Itsekiri...and you will see an Edo content.

It is so bad even Esan is claiming they own Lagos.

Do you mind Edos online liars? They always look for cheap glory,where there is non. Do you know that ADA/UDA that is common in Yoruba land,which special ones are inscribed on and given to princes , crept into the Bini lexicon/language? Guess what? Only Oba Bini use ADA(Scimitar always carried before the Oba) . This showed he is a foreigner . Edos beware.Yoruba own Biniland.

davidnazee:
Mugu Olu.. The Year is irrelevant. Was it the Aworis that told the Portuguese Lagos belongs to Benin Kingdom?
Wow you are so Myopic and dumb, very dumb.. how can u miss the point I was making??

As usual, always turning to abusive words for escape means. O.k ,show me ,where in any scholarly work, was said that Bini own Lagos? Bloody liar. The same way Bini claim Ga of Ghana is from Edo,right? In fact, Ashipa got to Lagos around 17th century, so how did Bini occupied Lagos in 14th/15th century? Have you no knowledge of history?

Y0ruba:
All these Bini hacks with unintelligent responses.

A simple google search about Historians in Nigeria would have helped you.

Apart from Kenneth Dike, Afigbo, Abdulahi Smith & a few others of non-Yoruba origin, the number of Historians who are Yoruba is high & they are in high demand in the Americas & Europe. You can look them up, be useful to yourself.

As for material historical evidences, Yoruba has obelisks, arts in stone, wood, clay & metals. As for recorded evidence, Yoruba has Ifa which everyone is dying to learn even in the 21st century. What do the Edo/Bini have? A art that is an appendage of the Yoruba; a monarchy that is an appendage of the Yoruba & indigenous religion filled with gods in the Yoruba pantheon. Bini’s relevance revolves around its connection with Yoruba. Look up olokun head, that work is dated to be from very many centuries ago yet it t was so intensely made that it trounces any work out of Africa including Bini - fact.

Where is the interest in Yoruba history, you ask? This is a foolish question but do you know how many research papers or books published almost yearly on Yoruba? Do you know how many foreign scholars made their career out of Yoruba history? Let me give you an illustration so you’ll understand. Bini had a sustained contact with Europeans from about the 15th/16th century meanwhile Europeans had contact with Yoruba proper just starting from the 19th century and they havee been crazy about Yoruba history ever since. For starters google Leo Fobrenius & Dierk Lange. JDY Perl wrote Yoruba history till he passed in the early 2000s. P. Verger, Ulli Bierer, Morton & Frank Willet all did Yoruba history their entire lives. Recently, there are the Sustan Preston & a bunch of caucasians digging into Yoruba history. Apart from the early researchers such has Smith, Bradbury, Lloyd please give us a list of people interested in Bini history, I’ll wait

Nobody is stopping Bini from selling its own history. The problem here is that it contradicts what was dug around Bini & your palace; it contradicts archeological datings of materials found in your own place; it contradicts tests done on soil layers and resulting periods of occupation; it contradicts the data your king, palace chiefs & old men gave in the old days; it contradicts records in the archives and museums herein Naija & overseas. Do you see why no one is interested in your king’s book & the history at that? Do you see why researchers avoid that story, it can ruin a researcher’s career in an instant! . See, your falsehood stories have a lot of material & non-material data given to Europeans by your own forefathers to contend with. Maybe your forefathers should not have assisted the Europeans in the research works conducted decades ago.

Awesome piece from you. Kudos

Moorish:
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Moneywomen17:
trash from mumorish

Please stop. I'll appreciate.
God bless.