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Phizzlephizz:
In all here's my advice if you don't believe in God what then are you scared of, go ahead do money rituals kill for money get rich, scam someone on the Internet, rob someone's home,...

Money rituals? Atheists generally don't believe in superstition. Money rituals don't work.

scam someone on internet, rob someone's home? Maybe I don't want to do that. I like helping people, not hurting them, so why would I do something I don't like to do?

Besides, if I wanted to scam someone, I'd probably become a pa$tor; it's much easier than doing scams on the internet.

MizJanet:
Lol, davien i sight you oooo , imagine ur religious brother shout " wrong again" , that the bible i quote is not correct , his own is correct ! Bible contradictin itself , he admit it contradict by quickly shouting " wrong again" .

MizJanet you are really destroying the arguments of the God-believers here! Keep up the good work!

This question has already been asked elsewhere, and this is the best response I have found.

benedictuyi:
Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

<long text removed to save space>

Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

P.S.

I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends /colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you?

Forward this to increase their knowledge … or FAITH.

By the way, that student was EINSTEIN

LOL. This is the pinnacle of stupid. Einstein was not Christian, he was Jewish!

He was not religious, though he did not call himself an atheist, rather he preferred agnostic or pantheistic.

This is what Einstein wrote about his religious belief in 1954: "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it"

In 1945 Guy Raner, Jr. wrote a letter to Einstein, asking him if it was true that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism. Einstein replied, "I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist. ... It is always misleading to use anthropomorphical concepts in dealing with things outside the human sphere—childish analogies. We have to admire in humility the beautiful harmony of the structure of this world—as far as we can grasp it, and that is all."

In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."

....Einstein sent Gutkind a letter in response and wrote, "The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. These subtilised interpretations are highly manifold according to their nature and have almost nothing to do with the original text."

dadido:
you are igniting the wrath of God, be careful

If your god is wrathful then he cannot by definition be perfect, for wrath is a human characteristic.

But let him be angry, I think it's kind of funny that poor little me can attract the wrath of the creator of the universe.

hahn:
I agree with this too but its necessary that you try and see things from that other guys point of view. There is always going to be a universal curiosity over the origin of existence and until either theists or atheists are able to prove beyond reasonable doubt each other's position there will continue to be unending arguments and discussion over the issue.

Its safe to say that neither position is correct at this point

I'd say you are correct in the sense that agnosticism is the only truly rational position. I'm agnostic atheist: I can't prove the existence or inexistence of god but my opinion is that there is no god.

francizy:
Replaced with who? Buhari?

My friend, all these were predicted in the bible. The bible never said earth will be like heaven so quit expecting paradise on earth.

The Bible has made no more predictions than your average astrologer.

italo:
May I even ask what point you are trying to make with the above? Seems to me like you're just grasping unto anything to confuse the issue at hand.



I dont think you hate Catholics. I just think you choose to hold on to misinformation about Catholicism.

What happened in Ireland is not as bad as what happened in Ancient Rome, Soviet Union, Nazi Germany etc.

Yet the number of Catholics keep growing.
1.4 billion!

The Catholic Church tried to accommodate fascism in the 1920s and 1930s. They did so successfully Italy and Spain. The Pope wanted an accommodation with the Nazis and was willing to work with them, until the Nazis decided that the Church did not fit into their plans. In other words, it wasn't the Church that opposed the Nazis.

1.4 billion is too high; even the Church itself says about 1.2 billion, but certainly the Church's own estimates are high.

AlfaSeltzer:
Imagine I'm trying to retire for the night and there he is in his gay attire telling me that he maketh evil and destroyeth cities
I just got very angry and picked up my slippers and smacked him
He has just ran out threatening me with hell fire but I'm sure he's not coming back to me any time soon

I hope Jesus didn't tell you to sacrifice your first-born to show your love of him. God, his father, did that once before to some guy and he was going to do it until God said he was just trolling, just sacrifice a sheep and cut off a piece of your pen.is instead lol.

italo:
I see! The Nazis killed thousands of priests, confiscated and destroyed hundreds of Catholic property because the Church was in agreement with the Nazis.

Brilliant!

Yes but not because the Catholic Church opposed them; rather the Nazis had other ideas that did not include the Catholic Church. Of course there were some individual priests who actively opposed the Nazi regime and died heroic deaths.

I don't hate Catholics (at least I think that they are Christian unlike some of your other Christian brethren), but the Church has run into serious trouble in Europe and is starting to see trouble in the Americas, including Brazil. What happened in Ireland is a sign of this.

Jesus was dead by age 33, crucified by the Romans as a common criminal. As he died he said "God why have you forsaken me?" What a pitiful death.

italo:
The bold means "dying." Yet the Catholic Church lives on in Byzantium and all over the world.

5.5 million Catholics were in the Soviet Union. The Atheist Govt tortured and killed hundreds of priests and confiscated scores of Churches. Stalin's even boasted that the Church would be dead in a generation. Stalin's is dead. The Atheist Govt is dead. Communism is dead. The Catholic Church lives on.


For someone who talks much, you know too little. Please read how Nazis persecuted the Catholic Church. Read about the 2500 Catholic priests that were tortured and killed in the Nazi concentration camp in Dachau. I don't want to win an argument. I just want you to be enlightened.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Germany


Jesus never said his Church would never lose power in Europe.

Jesus said he would be with his Church forever and the gates of hades would never prevail against it.

There are now only about 150,000 Catholics in Russia--about 0.1% of the population

There are about 35,000 Catholics in Turkey, which includes ancient Byzantium/Constantinople--about 0.05% of the population

No doubt the Nazis persecuted Catholic organizations, but not because the Church opposed the Nazis. The Pope was quite anxious to come to an agreement with the Nazi government, as the Church had openly supported Fascist movements in Italy (Mussolini) and Spain (Franco); the Nazis had other ideas as they didn't really want any kind of rival organization with outside support. There is no evidence that the Church was inherently opposed to Nazi ideology.

Tobiee:
Onetrack please can you explain more on this atheist of a thing. If you dont believe in God,what or who do you believe in?

I believe in evidence. At this point there is no evidence for the existence of any particular god, and it is evident to me that religions are all man-made.

Tobiee:
lol.. Stúpid! Btw He's not ''guy'' ... He's Almighty. He created you

The god of Abraham did not make me.

Tobiee:
smh, if you really see God, you'll go blind forever. Even when you are burning in Hell.

God sounds like a lovely guy.

italo:
U

The Church was "dying" in Saul's Jerusalem.

The Church was "dying" in Ancient Rome.

The Church was "dying" in Byzantium.

The Church was "dying" in Stalin's Soviet Union.

The Church was "dying" in Hitler's Germany.

Yet the Church continues to live for 2000 years.

The church was not dying in Byzantium; it flourished until the schism of 1054 when suddenly half of the church became Orthodox instead of Catholic.

The Church was barely present in the Soviet Union; Russians are almost entirely orthodox

The Church was not dying in Nazi Germany; they willingly cooperated with Hitler, and they maintained their anti-Jewish position until the 1960s.

I'm not saying that the Catholic Church will disappear anytime soon, but it has lost a great deal of power in Europe over the past 50 years.

sundayerhun:
If you really do not believe in any 'god' as you claim, you will not even talk about them, especially in an ill-way.

People talk about Harry Potter and Superman; I'll talk about any god I want to.

italo:
That's what the Pharisees said...that's what the Roman Emperors said...that's what the communists said...

All these empires and entities have long perished, while the Church continues to flourish without reform.

The RCC is dying in Europe. The priests and nuns are ancient and the churches are empty. The US isn't far behind.

johnydon22:
Just like i said before, knowledge (certainty) is practically and literally different from belief (faith). . . If any of the god concepts humanity invented is proven to be true, am sure nobody would need to believe it with faith, everyone simply would have known and be sure therefore it no longer will be belief but sheer simple knowledge... But so far none of the god concepts have achieved this feat therefore all still remains a claim that is dependent on faith to believe.

It annoys me to no end that 'faith' is seen as a positive thing in society. I regard it as a negative. How can believing that something is true without evidence be held as a positive trait? We need to try to change this.

niyi20:
Am not surprise .Personally its insane for u to be attracted to same sex. Gay shows moral decay and its an evil spirit sent by the devil to destroy people.The bible is my stand why was sodum destroyed by the angels of God... Who ever is posses by the gay spirit should run for deliverance in a strong Church

I disagree. I think it is biologically based just like left- or right-handedness.

And (mythical) Sodom was not destroyed for homosexuality: "Sodom's sins were pride, gluttony, and laziness, while the poor and needy suffered outside her door." --Ezekiel 16:49

There is more of Sodom in Nigeria than in much of 'gay' Europe.

xest:
Two people of the same sex? Why ar u not a gay? Give me the reasons...

I'm not gay because.....I'm not attracted to my own sex. Isn't that enough?

sundayerhun:
Seriously? It's painful enough that in all your mess, God will never speak ill of you like you say of him.

Well, I don't believe in any god, so I can talk about any god any way I like.

If you become atheist, you should not 'blame' anyone. You just realized and accepted that religion did not make any sense. I am atheist, and I am the only one responsible for my lack of belief. My own thinking and reading led to my conclusion that all gods are created in man's image and not the other way around.

xest:
Its obvious u are homosexual Thats why u are happy posting this rubbish here. Why will u marry ur fellow man idiot? U better go there n practice it with dem in ireland cos naija can never do that.

Do you support women's rights? If you do, then it's obvious you are a woman. Now go and get pregnant.
I'm not gay, but as an atheist I can find no reason to be against two people marrying, nor against multiple wives or husbands.

The Catholic Church has richly deserved to be told to piss off by the Irish, and rightly so.

An2elect2:
This is stupi.d.

Thanks. I added it to the list above.

Pick one of these reasons:

--it's a parable
--you don't have enough religious instruction to understand it
--you need the Holy Spirit to understand it
--the Lord moves in mysterious ways
--'body' doesn't actually mean 'body'
--you need to ask a pa$tor
--how dare you try to read the Bible for yourself
--why are you trying to mock Christianity?
--I'm offended
--this is stupi.d

If this is what the world is like with God alive, I'd say he is doing a terrible job. He should be sacked and replaced with a new god immediately.

The plural of anecdote is not data. It all has purely scientific explanations.

I've never seen a hadith talking about this. I think it comes from an early Islamic scholar who was just writing his own thoughts. Nevertheless I have certainly heard about the 'pregnant hand' from Muslim friends--at least one of whom thought it was ridiculous.

If your hand gives birth to more hands does that mean you have more hands to mast.urbate with?

Impressive building. Some of the most beautiful buildings ever built were for religious purposes.

Yeah, one could argue that the money could be better spent elsewhere. However, most of the old grand buildings that we consider to be priceless treasures today were built upon the backs of the poor and suffering (Versailles, the Vatican, the Forbidden Palace, various buildings in the Middle East), but I'm glad we have them today.

johnydon22:
Are you crazy? Yahweh is the real one not Odin

Doesn't matter. My god can beat up your god, because the book that I wrote says so. I am a profit.

johnydon22:
Yes Don't mins those useless atheists, Am sure God (Osiris) Exist whether they believe it or not

Don't be silly! Anyone with even a few brain cells knows that Odin is real, not Osiris!