taurus25:

okay that definetely came out wrong....what i meant was that if (he ^) thought that evolution theory was a 'messed up' theory that no one should believe, then the entire science community which does accept the theory as the explanation of the diversity of species must all be stvpid to do so

AnonyNymous:
Ok, if you opened this thread I'm assuming you want to see what I'm on about, well this is just my 'journey' towards the truth/finding out what really is out there. I don't claim to have absolute knowledge and never have. Feel free to scrutinize and ask questions, and please use your head. Please. Thanks.

olaade714:
Plus, it seems I developed a special hatred and mockery for atheists, so am gonna put forward to u guys another question..

DO ATHEIST BELIEVE IN JINNS AND OTHER SUPERNATURAL BEINGS

taurus25:

i know right .....the entire science community is just stvpid

MrPresident1:
Adam and Eve are black people.

Black is the default colour of all people and races, all peoples will become black again.

FriendChoice:


Stop wasting my time if you cannot provide the verse that was not inside..... Bring the older verse. I would not reply you except you provide that stoning verse from the old version of Qur'an you claim. You shouldn't see my reply again except I see that verse.

FriendChoice:


My choice also

I thought you have eyes, show me one verse

Bible is older than Quran, yet the record are there, SHOW ME FORMER VERSE OF THE QURAN.

Allah has completed and choose Islam for us.

FriendChoice:



Bring the remove verse sir, I think Christians existed during the time, they must have a copy bring it sir.


This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed my favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion. Qur'an, 5:3

FriendChoice:


Where is the older verse Sir. Aren't you ashamed to lie. In which chapter is it remove, or added provide it sir or keep quiet

FriendChoice:


Please bring those former verses or version of Qur'an. Am not interested in your link. I did not post link here. Bring previous verses, you're sending me to a link. Prove the verse of Qur'an wrong that say its incorruptible, or you yourself produced a verse

Surely Allah (SWT) have said the truth, produced one previous version of the Quran.

FriendChoice:


The Quran is not hidden book my brother. Provide the older one.

FriendChoice:


After spending my time 2 explain, this fool want to play with my intelligence. Any 1 who read the previous explanation knows what the verses means. So I wount give you any reply. Am done with it.

The exact reply here 4 any1 reading. Check above.

FriendChoice:



The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. [Quran 1:3]

Allah is most merciful, no one is merciful as Allah.




In the Quran God still Merciful to Unbelievers despite associating partners with him, despite disapproving his oneness, he still feed them, cloth them etc. Also Allah in his infinite mercy forgives the wrong doers. That is Allah's mercy to all. If Allah is not merciful he would have deny them all this.





[O disbelievers], eat and enjoy yourselves a little; indeed, you are criminals. [Quran 77:46] .

"Say: "To whom belongeth all that is in the heavens and on earth?" Say: " To God. He hath inscribed for Himself (the rule of) Mercy. That He will gather you together for the Day of Judgment, there is no doubt whatever. It is they who have lost their own souls, that will not believe. (The Noble Quran, 6:12) "




"Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from unbelief), their past would be forgiven for them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them). (The Noble Quran, 8:38) "





"The Lord of the heavens and the earth, and all between,- Exalted in Might, able to enforce His Will, forgiving again and again. (The Noble Quran,
38:66) "


"Those who avoid great sins and shameful deeds, only (falling into) small faults,- verily thy Lord is ample in forgiveness. He knows you well when He brings you out of the earth, And when ye are hidden in your mothers' wombs. Therefore justify not yourselves: He knows best who it is that guards against evil. (The Noble Quran, 53:32) "



"If any one does evil or wrongs his own
soul but afterwards seeks God's forgiveness, he will find God Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. (The Noble Quran, 4:110) "



"And remember! your Lord caused to be declared (publicly): 'If ye are grateful, I will add more (favours) unto you; But if ye show ingratitude, truly My punishment is terrible indeed.' (The Noble Quran, 14:7) "




"Say: 'O my Servants who Have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (The Noble Quran, 39:53) "





Psalm 5:4-6
4. You are not a God who takes pleasure in evil; with you the wicked cannot dwell.
5. The arrogant cannot stand in your presence; [b]
you hate all who do wrong.
6. You destroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and
deceitful men the LORD abhors.

Romans 9:13
Just as it is written: " Jacob I loved, but Esau I
hated."

FriendChoice:


Elaborate what you call contradiction sir

FriendChoice:



There are no contradiction in Islam. There are only contradistinction

larisoft:


Does it then mean that because you have not discovered a way to verify a thing, that thing does not exist? I am an agnostic. I am not convinced of the existence of these Gods either... But I realize that the situation is that I am not convinced... Not that they don't exist.

Several phenomenon exist which even though will eventually get discovered, cannot be discovered now due to our limited observatory capacity.

I think sincere atheists should shift from negative faith, to keeping an open mind to receive and ruminate on facts. There's a whole lot out there to learn! That's the beauty of fee thinking!

larisoft:
Atheism, as I perceive it, is the first bustop for youngsters in philosophy, whom basking in their new found freedom from restricted thought, fall prey to the logical abomination of reaching conclusions before conducting research.

The picture it paints is that of a man who says "God exists. How do I know? Faith". And after some time, he says "God doesnt exist. How do I know? Faith!"

I dont see how a person can be an atheist and a free thinker...The thought process of an atheist is already bent on proving the non-existence of a thing, as opposed to drifting in consonance with the random waves of facts, evidence, and logic, towards an unknown destination.

Atheism is not free thinking. Its just negative faith.

EyeHateGod:

They need a Prophet to do that!

Empiree:
You want definition of God?.

Here it is. I was on my way to Chicago from New York. I'm am the pilot with bunch of Atheists on board. When I reach 35,000 above sea level, I nose dive the aircraft at the top speed...going straight to hit mountains. By the time I reach 15,000, all Atheists on board start screaming and yelling including yourself.

They scream.......[size=20pt]"OH GOD OH OH OH GOD........OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD"[/size]


When I hear them scream I pull up. They simply quiet and say "Thank you God"


What bothers me is that, they claim they don't believe in God. They don't believe in nothing. How come that scream God's help when they are in trouble?. Why don't they scream OH NOTHHING?.

Same thing happened to Dawkins when he was debating theist. He forgot name of something and touched his forehead trying to remember. He said "oh God"


So don't you think you deceiving yourself HardMirror?.. I'm sure that would have been your reaction in the scenario I described if you were to be in a distressed aircraft.

Keep deceiving yourself like seun

malvisguy212:
pity yourself because satan has block you atheists sense of reasoning. He was an atheist, but a secret atheist, and when he finally meet an open minded atheist like Azo, what do you expect from hadmirrow ? Be happy right ? But No, he want to convert the atheist to christianity, does it make sense to you ? Why dint he tell me the year he finish his 400level ? And also the year he became an open minded atheist ? That is were you will see the lies of this boy.

hahn:
Nigeria is the only country that can lay back and go on holiday during recession over someone who attempted to kill his son over 6,000 years ago. Allegedly.

66,000 pilgrims traveled to Mecca this year. Imagine they spend $1000 each throughout the trip. That amounts to $66,000,000 that Nigerians just exported due to religion.

We really do deserve the leaders we get

hahn:
Nigeria is the only country that can lay back and go on holiday during recession over someone who attempted to kill his son over 6,000 years ago. Allegedly.

66,000 pilgrims traveled to Mecca this year. Imagine they spend $1000 each throughout the trip. That amounts to $66,000,000 that Nigerians just exported due to religion.

We really do deserve the leaders we get

seggzz:

I got your point here. According to Merriam Webster dictionary; atheism is 1 archaic : ungodliness, wickedness
2 a : a disbelief in the existence of deity 
b : the doctrine that there is no deity.

I classified atheists into two groups:

(1) Passive atheists- these are group who lacked belief in a deity. This group are who i called pseudo atheists. Nothing wrong on their disbeliefs and I'm not always after them.

(2). Active or dogmatic atheists - these are atheists who have a doctrine or conclusion with 100% certain that there is no god(s). These are the people i listed as the atheist in this thread. I mostly debate against them. They usually end up insulting me. I usually debate against this group with passion just as i do with religious people and deists.