₦airaland Forum

emusmith:
And when God actually does it. In hell, they'll call God, wicked and unjust...but those demons in hell will spank them. They call him "good" Master- they believe and tremble.

Maybe they'll charge Him (God) to court?

This same ignorance displayed itself in the time of Noah...

Referring to myths does not help your cause. However I do agree that there is just as much ignorance today as in earlier times; just look at the number of successful scam artists in Nigeria that call themselves pastors.

If there is so much satanic evil in the world and god does not like it, he can put an end to it (and he does not have to kill anyone to do it). If he has to destroy much of the world then he is just as evil as satan, only satan is more honest. However I dont believe either exists.

micadeolu:
Let all Nigerians pray against an
occurrence of a terrible 'CRISIS'
borne out of terrorism among the
Military that may disband the
political process in Nigeria in the month of August 2015

I don't even know what this means, and I speak English very well. In any case Nigeria has been in crisis for a long time, so it only makes sense that the crisis will still be there in August. *shrugs shoulders*

Dhammyjhay:
Does God really exist?... There are now lot of facts actually pointing to the fact that 'there is no God'... What if the bible was just someones idea of a prank?...

We have no way of knowing if some undetectable god created us; however we do know that we can create undetectable gods. I have just created one whose name is Shargol. You cannot experience him directly but you can see the fruits of his labor all around you, and that is the proof of his existence!

koice: In the absent of religion, racism and tribalism will reign supreme.

Religion has actually been used to justify racism, tribalism, and hatred repeatedly throughout history. So tell me again what advantages religion has to offer?

Fake. Not true.

NumberOne2:
Ok lets see some facts out of many:

Where are the facts? I'd love to discuss them.

Activities which violate someone else's right to be secure in their person and their property are generally things which should be illegal; this is the basis for virtually all secular law codes.

This one time a boy was visiting his grandmother, who was old and sitting quietly in her chair. Suddenly, she started to fall to the side. The boy quickly came over and helped her back to her upright position. Then a minute later, she started to fall to the other side. Again the boy came over and helped her back upright again. The boy said, 'grandma, are you alright?' She replied, "No, because I keep leaning over to let out a fart but you keep pushing me back up!"

Blackfire:
Over the years we have been told alot about the meccans during the time of muhamed, but has anyone try to find out what really happened to them? Is the allegation against them true? What was there crime against muhamed? There way of life that can be seen today,there tales folklores,the tribes.The masacare? Genocide,yes genocide,what is there own side of the story that ve been unheard as u look at history...Before,During and after muhamed..
If u are a judge ofcourse u will listern to both evidences before passing judgement.
Coming soon.
Shukurah.

It's a valid historical question. The history of the early Muslims is almost entirely one-sided. Ibn Ishaq, one of the earliest writers about the early Islamic period, evidently included a fair amount of information from the 'other side' because he was accused of getting his information from the Jews. Guess what? His book is lost, and we only have bits of his book found in other books. I wonder what happened to it?

At the very least, a religion that does not preach that it alone has exclusive truth; any religion that does not have a concept of hell; and any religion that does not have a god that acts like a human.

I'm cool with Unitarian Universalism, some forms of Taoism and Buddhism, and Quaker Christianity. Jainism is ok but I could never adapt to their diet, but at least they've gone 2500 years without any religious conflict.

I'm as atheist as they come. All religions are man-made and used to control people. However I would never refer to religious people as 'subhumans'. They are people like us. Dehumanizing others is a dangerous road to go down. I know some wonderful people who happen to be religious.

Now Boko Haram, yes, they are subhuman trash.

Imgombe2016:
Are you bullshits? You don't know how deadly is primasons my guys.
I'm proud of being a Muslim.Non-muslims like mocking Islam too much.I don't know why.

I know how deadly Islam is. Religion is just a tool used to control people.

I prefer by far the freemasons.

lovat:
can you give more details about the part the girl was staring at because this your story is incomplete.

Please the whole details

I see that some people (males) are really interested in the ladies' lesbian encounters.

No lie. Last year I was walking down the street in a French-speaking African country and I passed a man wearing a shirt that said "F*ck my tight ass". I'm sure he didn't understand the shirt, and probably 98% of the people around him either. I wonder if he noticed that certain people stare at him like he's crazy, because I sure was.

I say let them bring it so that we can discuss/critique what they are saying, just like we discuss Christianity/ATR/atheism.

davien:
so you'd basically be in a church in heaven...

In other words, hell. This god is truly a silly character. Or maybe he's just bored.

Demmzy15:
http://islamqa.info/en/85102


99percent?! Bro you're better this now!

Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "The first man to be called on the Day of Resurrection will be Adam who will be shown his offspring, and it will be said to them, 'This is your father, Adam.' Adam will say (responding to the call), 'Labbaik and Sa`daik' Then Allah will say (to Adam), 'Take out of your offspring, the people of Hell.' Adam will say, 'O Lord, how many should I take out?' Allah will say, 'Take out ninety-nine out of every hundred." They (the Prophet's companions) said, "O Allah's Apostle! If ninety-nine out of every one hundred of us are taken away, what will remain out of us?" He said, "My followers in comparison to the other nations are like a white hair on a black ox."

http://www.sunnah.com/bukhari/81/118

johnydon22:

But wait i thought lying was supposed to be a sin in Christianity punishable by hell fire, you people don't even fear your own bible when blowing obvious silly lies

It actually is one of the ten commandments, along with adultery, stealing, respecting the Sabbath, and not coveting your neighbor's thing, but Nigerians would rather focus on homosexuality, mainly because homosexuals form such a small percentage of the population that they have no power. Kind of like witches. Easier to go after them.

johnydon22:
You can imagine how mumuish and gullible people become, honestly cows would be less gullible than most religious africans

I actually think this is a great idea. I think many more pastors should drink even greater quantities of petrol, and they should challenge the mallams to a contest.

Once the world has ended, what is God's purpose? Repeat the process again? Create another earth and another heaven and hell and play this game over again?

Does God's existence have any meaning?

When it comes to an issue like this, a decentralized religion like Sunni Islam has difficulty resolving this problem. No one has a recognized authority to declare another person a non-Muslim. This is the same as Christianity, though the Roman Catholic Church does have to authority to declare someone a non-Catholic; not sure about the Shia though I know they have a religious hierarchy. If the Ku Klux Klan calls themselves a Christian organization, there is no real way of telling them they are not, since no one 'controls' Christianity. Same with atheism. Anyone can all themself an atheist.

And given that 99% of humans are going to hell anyway according to Muhammad, why even try to separate the 'true' Muslims from the non-true Muslims?

Photoshop. I've seen this picture before elsewhere on the interwebs.

There is no evidence that RCC formed Islam; just pure speculation with no credible source to back it up. I'm more inclined to say that it was Nestorian Christians who influenced the development of Islam, along with Sabeians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Heliogabalans, and Arab polytheists.

The Ramadan fast is not a true fast in any sense. All Muslims do is shift the meals from the daytime to the nighttime. And going 12+ hours without drinking water is not good for the health. However it can teach some discipline to avoid eating whenever one is hungry.

menesheh:


if the demon-possessed sperm is not get rid of, it may induce you to ra..pe thereby 25 years imprisonment follows. And also it may lead you to look lustfully on amazing curves of which god must definitely be angry with you.

Exactly! Masturbation should be a holy sacrament like communion or baptism!

But masturbation is an effective way of ridding your body of demon-possessed sperm, because your evil sexual desires go away until the sperm builds up again.

Demmzy15:
I didn't make takfir on them alone, the scholars who know more than me did. Contemporary scholars like Sheikh Abdulaziz Ibn Abdullah ibn Baz the former mufti of Saudi Arabia declared them to be Non-Muslims based on the hadith of the Prophet in which he said "they leave the religion just the way an arrow pierces through its game" so they aren't my words rather that of the Prophet and Scholars.


From this comment of yours, it shows you didn't read the article. Everything you're saying here has been explained already!


Lmaooooo! When did you become 'Mufassir' for you to know which verse abrogates the other?! You funny o!



The verse never stated you should blow up the limbs of innocent men, women, and children shopping in markets. It never told you to behead someone on camera shouting Allahu AKBAR. So I don't get your point here!


Lol how many Christians are in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt?! Are these countries not ruled by Muslims?! The case of the Byzantine Empire is a totally different one. You can read this article http://discover-the-truth.com/2014/06/03/examining-quran-929-does-islam-sanction-the-killing-of-christians-and-jews/


@emboldened, I don't need any Jewish book or tanakh to authenticate the Quran for me. So I don't care if it's not found in their book, I know for sure that the Quran came to correct the errors of the older books and therefore perfect!


So ISIS are now credible scholars right?! Please read this article and stop spilling sh't. So because a Muslim Government follows democracy then they're apostates?! You were the same person that said I have no right to declare them Non-Muslims, but you support them declaring us as Non-Muslims. What a double standards!


Please read the article!


These are what the Prophet said about great sins.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 83, Number 10:
"Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet said, "The biggest of Al-Kaba'ir (the great sins) are (1) to join others as partners in worship with Allah, (2) to murder a human being, (3) to be undutiful to one's parents (4) and to make a false statement," or said, "to give a false witness."


So with this post of yours are you justifying their actions when in fact they are totally contradictory to islam?! Because I don't get the point of this your post/comment, everything is clearly explained in the article and you come and say "the jihadist do this, they do that, so the Quran supports them". I seriously don't get your point!

There are many versions of Islam just like Christianity. The jihadis will simply tell you that you are the one who has gone astray, and they have verses and hadiths that they use to support what they are doing, depending on how you intepret them. Just like the Sunni/Shia divide, which is quite profound. Your argument is with them not with me as I think all religion is man-made.

diskindaridi:
This verse is always quoted out of context, it was directed to certain people at a certain time when they were being killed by the idol worshippers of that time

Then they should remove it to avoid confusion. Just like the Christians should have left out the entire Old Testament. Both the Quran and Bible need serious editing.

mrZENographer:
even though you don't want to love him, you will be greatly compelled to...... because of the terror on the other side but then it will be too late. Now is the day of salvation.

You are suggesting that god is a terrorist?

It is not for you to declare if someone is Muslim or not. This is forbidden in Islam, and in fact this is what the Kahrijites did. If someone says he is a Muslim, then you should accept it, even if they engage in certain non-Islamic behavior.

However, they are basing their actions on the Quran itself:

Read the whole of the 9th sura, At-Tawbah. This is the second to the last sura in terms of the time it was written. Thus it abrogates other earlier verses that may conflict with it, such as 2:256 "no compulsion in religion". That verse has been abrogated and no longer applies.

Quran 9:29 "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."

If you look at the tafsir (ibn Kathir) you will see that this was a command for Muhammad to go and attack the Byzantine Empire. ISIS holds this verse to be true until the entire world is ruled by the Muslims, because that is what the Quran says. Notice it does not say to kill all non-Muslims, but if they refuse to pay the annual tax, then they can be killed.


Quran 5:32 "Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely."

There is an error here (god did not tell the Jews this and it appears in no prophecy or holy book, it was written by a rabbi in a commentary), but the error does not really affect this because the key phrase is 'corruption in the land'. For ISIS this corruption means anyone or any government which opposes sharia law. In other words, for them, Muslims who oppose strict sharia law are spreading corruption in the land and may be killed. This is why ISIS and Boko Haram are killing Muslims--they believe they are corrupt, and the Quran justifies their killing. It's unfortunate that the Quran has such a vague expression allowing people to be killed because virtually any behavior can be categorized as 'corruption within the land'.

That's how the jihadis justify their actions. Straight from the Quran. If you have a problem with them, take it up with them. I'm not Muslim (I'm atheist), and I also realize how religions with as much conflicting material as Islam and Christianity can basically be manipulated to say whatever anyone wants it to. So those people who support peace among nations and peoples can call themselves Muslims, and those people who call for jihad are also Muslims.