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I am happy to see the army make such progress, but I wonder what changed all of a sudden. I have to wonder how much of the work is being done by the South African mercenaries.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
I cover dis thread wif d blood of Jesus, I sprinkle dis thread wid holy water, and I cast and bind d devil here to d bottom less pit were it will never return, Amin.

Where could I get a sample of Jesus' blood? I'd like to have it tested to see where his Y-chromosome came from, since Mary had a 'virgin birth'. I'm betting the y-chromosome belongs to a Roman soldier.

malvisguy212:
so there is no way this God will side with you because you don't believe in Him,infacte most of you guys blasphemy His name.

I don't condemned you for being an atheists,but the points is that you guys blasphemy his name forgotten the facts that you may be wrong.for me this is not ordinary,there is satanic manipulation going on some where, that is how satan urged rebellion against God, he used eve,first deny the statement made by God (God dint say anything caused He isn't there) then contradicts the supposed word of God and then claimed equality with God.

Atheists do not believe in Satan either.

Nigeria has simultaneously launched an offensive to retake a series of towns with the backing of hundreds of mercenaries from South Africa and the former Soviet Union in a bid to secure towns ahead of a rescheduled March 28 election.

This tells you almost everything you need to know, though I think it's the other way around. The military is backing the mercenaries and not the other way around.

malvisguy212:
I will pay the price...... Do you believe there is God?

No I am atheist.

malvisguy212:
you can insults me,no problem. I assured you, very soon it will all end.
End mean, the world may end anytime or our life may end anytime and we will give account of our self.

And if this "god" sides with the atheists for using their brains instead of being mindless sheep what will you do?

Jesus also said that he came to turn family members against each other. Not a positive point of view.

From Reuters this morning:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/12/nigeria-violence-mercenaries-idINKBN0M80X920150312?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

I'm atheist but I generally agree with humanist thought. WHO IS MY GOD??

goshap:
this ain't a pro gay thread able, gays to the left, extrem yaba left Abeg, homophobia is a choice and a right to every individual.

Lol, this is a meeting place for freethinkers so it's neither a pro-gay nor anti-gay thread. Being anti-homophobic is also a choice and a right.

s3nn2x:
Sir, as a free thinker, what is your stand on homosexuality? I am asking you specifically because you created this thread.

@all, Since you guys are not inhibited by religion, I am curious as to what you feel about same sex relationship?

I used to be very homophobic; not anymore. I see no reason to oppose homosexuality, gay marriage, or transvestites. I also do not oppose polygamy as long as the woman also has the right to multiple husbands. Really whatever sexual or family arrangements that consenting adults wish to make is none of my business.

Jameselias:
The whites are actually afraid of the powers in an african traditional religion, esp: during the colonial era, thus they through manipulative and force means lure us africans away from it and replaced it, gave us powerless, fake, nonsense, and useless, fables good for notin if not slavery and called it religion, they feared the powers in our ancestorial religion is detrimental to thier slave programe thus they termed it evil, they feared with it africans will over power them one day, hence they did every thing, and are still doing to lure us away from it ,they used force and even demonized it, and it seems as if they succeseded but there are still reminant,
just imagine had africans retained the means to powers as found in their religion coupled with the knowledge of modern science to day,
chai! who be the whites self!

So the whites were so afraid of the power of African juju that they.....destroyed it? Doesn't sound like the juju had any power in the first place.

I would just laugh at them and their silliness.

Sweden has done quite well, given that, not only do they have no juju, but only about 3% of them actually go to church.

How did tiny Belgium take over the Congo in the face of all that juju? (by the way, the answer that I have been given by a believer in juju is that African juju only works for certain things, and does not repel invaders)

I would love to see a test carried out: two groups of people are isolated and given the same land and resources, one of whom practices no religion or juju and instead just works and develops their resources; the other does no work but just practices religion or juju. Who will come out ahead?

ALKARULEZZ:
I'm not an Atheist tho

You are certainly on the road to becoming one. This is how it starts; this is what I was doing as I was in the process of dumping my religion and I am now atheist.

iboladeji:
Briefly, let me point out another error.

This is not wholly correct. Referring you back to a previous post

Cultural issues only come into play in MUNDANE aspects of Islam. In religious aspects, you have no room for guesswork e.g A Chinese Muslim dare not pray/fast... differently from a Kanuri Muslim. Except for heretics of course.
Also, salafists and other adjectives are just names used to cause confusion. The religious rules are clear, those that follow strictly do and some decide to innovate. Muslim na Muslim, but quality differs based on conformity to dictates.

As always, the 'devil' is in the details. Defining what is mundane vs. what religious is even itself subject to debate (hence the salafists). In any case Muslims are fond of saying that Islam is a complete way of life, and for many that means that every behavior is regulated by Islam. Other, not so strict Muslims, like sufis, would have a broader view of what is mundane and not regulated by religion. Even the Shia have quite different beliefs (praying only 3 times a day, for example).

Also, salafists and other adjectives are just names used to cause confusion.

No, they give clarity so that people can have some idea what type of Islam a person practices. If someone tells me they are just a Muslim, about the only thing I can really assume about them is that they accept Muhammad as a prophet and believe that the Quran is the word of God. If they tell me they are salafist or sufi, I can get a much better idea of their approach. In any case, your own prophet Muhammad said that the Muslims would divide into 73 sects, who are you to say that there are not really any divisions in Islam?

johnydon22:
We F***ing Love Atheism

I love that facebook page. It's like Jesus Daily for the Christians.

iboladeji:
Appreciate your openness. That is why i would reply you and ignore the other rants.
Your line of argument is quite impressive but you made major errors. In Islamic law, issues are divided into two: Religious and Mundane. We are bound to follow the Prophet in religious issues. In mundane issues, everyone is free to follow what he or his current society deems right.
Of course, you do not see Muslims riding horses and camels; you do not see Muslims living in deserts nor do you see Muslims wearing izhar (ancient Arab wrapper). These are mundane issues which are not legislated by Islam, rather, regulated. But in religious issues, they are both legislated and regulated. We HAVE TO pray the same way He prayed, fast the same way He fasted, on and on...

The issue of woman's marry-able age is the focal point of this discussion. As said earlier

This is because this issue is mundane.
Please note the difference.

Thanks for your openness, i wish it would lead you to guidance.
Goodluck to the evil ranters, i hope they would also get guided.

My training and my work are in the field of history so I hope I have some historical perspective of events.

I can agree with much of what you wrote. Of course Muslims are not obligated to marry a child just because Muhammad did. Every religion adapts itself to the culture of the time (obviously the Salafists would disagree with that). A Muslim being against child marriage is kind of like a Christian being against slavery: there is no clear religious basis to be against either one and there are specific passages in the holy scriptures permitting them, but few people (such as atheists ) would call a Christian out for being against slavery when the Bible permits it.

Christians should also be against almost all divorce and loaning money at interest, but you know how that works--there's always away around such rules. Regarding Islam, there are other things to criticize and I think that focusing on things other than the age of Aisha is more interesting.

An2elect2:
Q: Can i get a brief straight to the truth definition of atheists?
A: Atheists are people devoid of common sense.

So common sense requires that I believe in virgin births, a talking snake, a talking donkey, someone who walks on water, and a god who acts like a spoiled child? (I have to admit it would be very convenient to know someone who can turn water into wine, however I can't believe that it's possible).

I misread the title and laughed. I thought it said "see pastor washing away the sins of his member with soap.

How do I feel about atheists? I like and respect a lot of them, including myself.

justlove91:
So you belief God punish people for not believing in Him?

I don't believe in god.

The danger is not in any God punishing you because you don't believe in Him, He is too emotionally balanced

Stopped reading right there.

Atheist here. This whole issue of Muhammad marrying a 6-year-old girl is not a big deal from a historical perspective, as it is rightly pointed out that many cultures have accepted child marriage until quite recent times. I personally do not use the 'Muhammad-as-pedophile' approach, as he was a man of his time.

The problem is that Muslims hold up Muhammad as the role model for all of humanity for all time.

Whether or not some European ruler married a 6 year old back in the year 1400 doesn't really matter because nobody would consider him to be best man in history, worthy of being imitated until the end of time, unlike Muslims who are expected to try to imitate the life of Muhammad as the proper way of living. As a result, any Muslim who is against child marriage could be rightly criticised from a strict Islamic point of view. The Quran even gives instructions on how to divorce your pre-pubescent wife. Considering that Islam is considered to be final and unchangeable, this means that child marriage can never really be outlawed in an Islamic state. That, in my view, is a problem.

I would note that Christianity does not actually forbid child marriage either, and that neither religion forbids slavery.

Am not a Christian (in fact I'm a hardcore atheist), but this form of prayer goes back long before the Jews. It was also used as a form of respect towards kings and rulers in the Middle East (look up the term proskynesis) for thousands of years. Muslims simply use a tradition of respect that was used for many centuries towards gods (yes, pagan gods) and men. Nothing prophetic about it.

chigoville:
Being agnostic seems to be the best thing to ever happen to me. I uncovered the truth in my third year at the university. Few people knew about my stand.. Still can't tell my parents though but I really go to church just for the sake of satisfying them.

Agnosticism certainly puts you on the side of reason in an argument! Just keep demanding absolute proof from religious people and watch them go crazy!

5. Does God exist? We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him.

What an absurd question and answer. If there is a god and he wants to reveal himself he can do it, and not hide and whisper in the ears of some people who then claim to be prophets.

malvisguy212:
The Bible is quite clear that God is not the author of evil and insists that He is incapable of doing so.

Then you admit that god is not all-powerful.

Atheist here. I have my popcorn and am enjoying this thread. Please continue.

And I have a sign from the Flying Spaghetti Monster (pasta be upon him)! RAmen!

timonski:
What then are you guys doing on this religious section?

Because agnosticism, atheism, and deism involve varying states of religious belief.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
I want to join ya kinds, how do I become one?

You don't 'join'. It's not a club or a private group. Your beliefs (or lack thereof) determine whether or not you are one of us. For example if you don't believe in God then you are already an atheist, even if you go to church.