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PoliticsRe: Why Ikemba Eze Igbo Gburugburu, Ojukwu, Should Be Buried In The North by Onlytruth(m): 4:29am On Feb 11, 2012
mens dept:
Wow, 4 pages and counting. Even Onlytruth speaking long grammer. I was expecting the  fool that originally posted this silly thread to be ignored or cursed as he/she or the he-she rightfully deserved but low and behold- IGBO SENSITIVITY.

Okay guess what, Awolowo should be re-buried in Calabar for serving in a jail cell for "treasonable" activities. Now let the Yoruba have a go.


Nonsense
I can probably count in one hand my posts here for the past two days. The topic is a comic relief; however, ebe ana ama njakiri ka ana ekwu eziokwu.
I don't even post on most threads these days. lol I also don't waste words.  cool
So, I wonder where the "Igbo sensitivity" charge comes from.

I believe I've said all I needed to say, unless ndu_chucks says another thing that needs my response.  cool
PoliticsRe: Why Ikemba Eze Igbo Gburugburu, Ojukwu, Should Be Buried In The North by Onlytruth(m): 3:57am On Feb 11, 2012
ndu_chucks:
Eze, when are you going to decide to give up your ways which are nothing short of being cretinism? I'll tell you what is idiotic, olodo: being born in a place, such as Kano, growing up there and not being familiar with the East where  one or more of your parents hail from, and then finding yourself having to return to the East, a homeland which is essentially foreign to you, is more than idiotic. This is the system which must change in Nigeria if we are to join civilized nations.

It is the same kind of idiotic policy or tradition which I am challenging indirectly in this thread. Unfortunately, your dumb behind is too unsophisticated to understand. You allow tribalism and bigotry to prevent you from seeing the big picture.  Pray tell, has GEJ announced the setting aside of any particular public holiday in honour of Ikemba? Have you petitioned any of your Reps or Senators, if you know who they are,  to submit a bill in this regard? Biko mechionu gi.

The only thing right about your post is the bolded above. BTW[b], I'll bet my last Naira that you will not be with us in the country for Ikemba's burial.[/b] Olodo, Eze ko, Ezekiel ni.
You should be crowned the Liar in Chief of Nairaland because you and your people only observe in the breach the bolded words.
Pray, which section of Nigeria has killed more non-indigenes in its midst  than any other since Nigeria's founding?
Why are our people leaving the North en masse in 2012, just like happened in 1945, 53, 66 (decades ago)  while your aboki yam sellers are conducting a brisk business in Onitsha?
Can you show me a single Ojukwu property in Zungeru today? If you can't, why is that?

Here is the type of Nigeria I believe in.

I believe in a Nigeria where I will be allowed to carry concealed weapon, just like your brothers carry dagger. Heck I hereby I advise my people to at least carry daggers too, and modern ones at that, not that 15th century rusted things you carry around.  cool

I also believe that Igbo must never cede an inch of property in ALL parts of Nigeria until Nigeria disintegrates; after which we levy reparation bills to you, else we would be in a state of war with you until you pay.  cool

The Nigeria we have today is VERY fraudulent and unfortunately we Igbo have allowed ourselves to be the victims in chief of that fraud.

@Topic, before you would ever be allowed to lay your leprous hands on the greatest Igbo son that ever lived, you must first exhume the remains of Uthman dan fodio, Ahmadu Bello, and all other of your past leaders worth anything, and bring them to be reburied at  umunneoha, or Avutu. If you think that laughable, then, know that you initiated the comedy yourself.

BTW, I have chosen to join my Eastern Nigerian brothers to give the great Ikemba an American and world class funeral here in the greatest country on earth. It is more relevant and strategic to do so, than to be drowned at home in redundancy. Your opinions on that is NULL.  cool
PoliticsRe: Why Ikemba Eze Igbo Gburugburu, Ojukwu, Should Be Buried In The North by Onlytruth(m): 12:46am On Feb 11, 2012
ndu_chucks, just when we think you are done with your "akuya" level idiocy, you raise your game a notch higher.

It is clear enough to me that you have serious admiration for the Great Lion of Biafra hence this your latest gambit to snag him right from under the noses of his people and the land of his ancestors. I'm happy that some of my Igbo brothers have already knocked you in line, so I won't waste much time.

All I have to say is that you have to first undergo a spartan-grade drug detoxification process (to clear your head of some dangerous hallucinogens), head south on a long journey to the Serengeti where you may borrow a pair of natural balls from the lions there, stalk Ojukwu's corpse relentlessly like a thief in the night from now till March 2, and perform an ultimate[b] Hudini[/b] to evade 40 million Ndigbo on your way back to the North with our beloved Ikemba.

Well, God's speed aboki  cool
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka Urges Court To Nullify The 1999 Constitution by Onlytruth(m): 12:18am On Feb 11, 2012
The fact that Nigerians still defer to this fraudulent constitution says a lot about the people in that country.
Prof Soyinka remains one of the few sane folks in Nigeria. A strong person from the East should replace the Ikemba (may God bless his soul) and push this suit to a logical end.
PoliticsRe: Serious Riot In Onitsha Now. by Onlytruth(m): 6:00pm On Feb 09, 2012
The Nigerian Police seige of Igboland needs to end ASAP.
This seige has been there since after the war, and no government has done anything about it. Now this! undecided angry

I told my brothers that "Boko Haram" may be a multi-stage operation, the end of which we are yet to know.

Anybody who thinks that a Hausa mobile police man would kill a driver or trader in Onitsha this mindlessly (without a hidden agenda), needs to have his head examined.
They know we are not happy and are angry about our folks killed in the North. Now they are (IMHO) pushing us in our own land.

This is really a time to call on ALL security operatives to go back to their own regions.
This situation is getting more and more dangerous, especially for us Igbo who are being naive and going about our business as if all is well.
The "Boko Haram" operatives needs to leave Igboland IMMEDIATELY. angry
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 7:50am On Feb 09, 2012
ekwy nwa:
grin grin grin grin grin grin
tenants always find their voice when the true owners are out for business AKA Money making tongue tongue
talking about lazy , dirty fools who whish they can rewrite history tongue

Idey laugh grin
@ekwy nwa

I would advise that you stop referring to other groups as "tenants" for a number of reasons which I wouldn't want to go into here.
I know that some of these Yoruba peeps can get very annoying, but please try to choose your words very carefully. I don't want to ask your age in order not to be misunderstood, but please try to control yourself more. Never forget that you are Igbo, hence your words are always used against you disproportionately in Nigeria.
I also believe that we (Igbo) should leave this thread now.
We have already commented enough on it.
Thanks in advance!  cool
PoliticsRe: Oritsejafor Backs Call For SNC by Onlytruth(op): 6:56am On Feb 09, 2012
LOL @ "We cannot name our child, "Snake" and expect people to just cancel the strong imagery of " snake fangs and venom on their flesh" whenever and wherever that child shows up. "

grin grin grin

The guy spoke just like Onlytruth. cool
PoliticsRe: Oritsejafor Backs Call For SNC by Onlytruth(op): 6:54am On Feb 09, 2012
Great. Now maybe the calls will pick up.

Meanwhile here is what one reader said:

Chief Lugard Aimiuwu,
Sorry but if you are going to be associated with anything concerning the future of this country, you must keep in mind that the name "Lugard" evokes anger in many quarters in nigeria. Ofcourse, you did not name yourself "Lugard". But as an adult nigerian you should know it is bad omen and spells doom for nigeria. And we don't want to be associated with yet another "Lugard", for a plethora of reasons especially on this particular topic. The strongest of those reasons is that we have no reason to view as lord, the first Lugard who disgraced this nation first by his selfish amalgamation antics and then second by having his mistress pick the name of this country. Why not do yourself and nigerians a favor by removing yourself from nigeria's national discuss. Or better still to re-assert your citizen rights in a very convincing manner, apologize to those who named you "Lugard" and promptly drop that name! Otherwise, specifically on this issue of SNC, you are construed as a big joke. We cannot name our child, "Snake" and expect people to just cancel the strong imagery of " snake fangs and venom on their flesh" whenever and wherever that child shows up.
PoliticsOritsejafor Backs Call For SNC by Onlytruth(op): 6:53am On Feb 09, 2012
Oritsejafor backs call for SNC

By Sam Eyoboka & Olayinka Latona

LAGOS -  FORTY-EIGHT hours after the National Summit Group voted for a national conference to restructure the country into a true federal state, the National President of Christian Association of Nigeria, CAN, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor has given his nod for the proposal, arguing that if talking would tear the nation apart, then we were not made to be one.

Speaking at the fourth Bible Society of Nigeria’s annual lecture at the NIIA, Lagos, Pastor Oritsejafor said the major challenge facing Nigerian governments today was monumental corruption, stressing that the problem with the country was that Nigerians were hypocrites who pretended not to know that what is going on in the nation was wrong.

Answering questions from newsmen, he said: “We pretend not to know that what is going on is wrong. We all know it is wrong but we pretend not to know that it is happening. Not until we are able to face the truth…we are talking about peace, there cannot be peace without justice and there cannot be justice without the truth.

He said: “Truth is what feeds justice and not until Nigerians, as a people, will sit up and say we must face the truth, there will be no genuine development. That is why I support those who are calling for a national conference. You may call it any name you want, but I think all the nationalities should come together and dialogue on the way forward.


Earlier, the guest lecturer, President of the National Institute of Marketing of Nigeria, Chief Lugard Aimiuwu described the transformation agenda of President Goodluck Jonathan as what the nation had been clamouring for, stressing, however, that there was yet any sign to believe that the economic team would address the real issues involved.

Speaking on the topic: “True democracy: A catalyst for accountability in governance,” Chief Aimiuwu averred that the election of President Jonathan from his humble background was in itself transformational, but it does not end there.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/02/oritsejafor-backs-call-for-snc/
PoliticsRe: Phase Out English/french/portuguese From Africa by Onlytruth(m): 6:10am On Feb 09, 2012
Negro_Ntns:
This is the best thing any igbo ever said since declaration of ahiara. . .  but you lost ya dayam mind when you offer kiswahili as replacement.  what is wrong with yoruba being your new tongue?
Tribalism don start already. lol

Anyway, on a serious note, I think that KiSwahili is easier, more developed, spoken by wider areas of Africa and "sexier" (if you like).
I'll give you one example of how easier KiSwahili is relative to Yoruba.

Example English: I love you so much.

Yoruba: Mo fe ru e ku[b]p[/b]o (if I'm not wrong).

Kiswahili: Nakupenda sana.

How many Africans can pronouce "p" in Yoruba, which is actually "kp" in Igbo?
I think that Yoruba suffers from the same handicap as Igbo in this case.

My honest assessment.
PoliticsRe: Attention All Igbos by Onlytruth(m): 4:00am On Feb 09, 2012
At the minimum, I advise my Igbo brothers to CEASE and DESIST from constantly posting Igbo related topics, unless they are ready with FULL Nigerian national picture in mind before posting it. Umunne m, anyi kwesiri iji ako na uche na eme ihe ebe a, maka na ndi iro anyi di otutu ebe a.

We should even try to avoid threads created to draw us into a tribal fight with other groups unless we fully have smart approaches to them.

I am a STRONG believer in FREE SPEECH, therefore, please don't think I want to impose a gag order (not that I can anyway, lol). Only understand that if you are not an expert, or a near expert, such topics lure us into snares which destroy our relationship with our neighbors.

Ya mere, onye obula nyara akpa uche, maka na agha anyi na anu bu agha uche!
Dalu nu o!  cool
PoliticsRe: Attention All Igbos by Onlytruth(m): 3:49am On Feb 09, 2012
bashr8:
pls stop making a fool of the igbo nation, ikwerres can be whatever they want to be pls leave them alone and stop making them or any other group feel special .

stop opening threads about our internal issues on nairaland, when are you going to learn . Eze ndigbo nairaland call the house to order for God sake ,are you waiting till our name is entirely buried in the mud before you do something, pls let all this madness of puting igbo topics on front page stop and lets start by stop posting igbos issues on nairaland. this is really making me sick , how about other 249 groups make front pages.
I strongly endorse and support this message!

However, my brother calm down. I always tell my people that we should always use obstacles or wedges on the road as stepping stones.
There is something YOU can do about the situation apart from what you have already done here.

Please contact me at ezendigbo_nl@hushmail.com.

Endeavor to register an email account there and use it to contact me. We Igbo members of Nairaland are not as powerless as some of us think.
I have personally decided not to bother the Moderators of this forum about our grieviances because I believe there is time for everything under the sun. My happiness is that we are not powerless over the whole situation. When the time comes, they will hear us loud and clear here.


@Other Igbo posters

Please heed your brother's call.

Here I stand!  cool cool cool
PoliticsRe: Boko Haram Demands National Conference (interesting!) by Onlytruth(m): 5:28pm On Feb 08, 2012
Source please?
PoliticsRe: Sovereign National Conference’ll Break Up Nigeria – Ekiyor by Onlytruth(m): 5:15pm On Feb 08, 2012
I worry that the man is playing politics with the future of our peoples. He knows the North likes this type of talks, so he knows what he is doing.
I'm happy that a lot more credible folks in Nigeria are calling for a SNC. People like this will soon become irrelevant.
I don't even see how the government can avoid a SNC past this year, unless the government goes back to the dirty methods of bribing sectional noisemakers.
That is what Nigeria has done for most of her 51 years of existence. Jonathan must prove to us that he is different and is interested in solving the structural problems of Nigeria; else, he will not achieve much in office, and his term will definitely end on or before 2015.
PoliticsRe: Sovereign National Conference’ll Break Up Nigeria – Ekiyor by Onlytruth(m): 5:03pm On Feb 08, 2012
People like this would make it harder for me to support a GEJ reelection bid. They are self centered and can't think.
SNC is the only peaceful way to move Nigeria forward.
CultureRe: Igbo Culture And Quest For Landed Property by Onlytruth(m): 4:53pm On Feb 08, 2012
mbatuku2:
It's funny how most of you failed to see the OP's intent of opening the thread, which is a kind of warning.

Abagworo, since you do not have credible data on this subject, I will think it's not appropriate to dabble into it.

[b]The truth of the matter is that most times Igbo people's alleged involvement in land acquisition around Nigeria has often been exaggerated out of reasonable proportions and often not absolute truth. [/b]This I know from personal experience. But then again I'll have to admit that Igbo people are a sucker for pain who dont learn from their mistakes.

I cant really say much about Port Harcourt and Ndi Isoma's stake in land acquisition, but I think it might be too murky to based your opinion, even if you lived there, solely on what you and your friends have done.
Abagworo's self hate continues. lol
Since when did it become an Igbo only sin to acquire properties? If a non Nigerian passer-by reads this Abagworo's open self imolation, he would think there is a huge issue in Nigeria about this.
The OP talks about being at peace with neighbors, as if not buying land in places of residence would bring that peace, or love. Let me remind Abagworo that some of Nigerians are not happy that some Nigerians would only buy land and develop in their own tribal zones. We call those Nigerians TRIBALISTS because they never leave their tribal zones.

Ironically, the person to teach Abagworo the REAL lesson and truth behind the whole land acquisition "saga" is a non-Igbo.
Read words of wisdom:

NorthSharp:
I agree with you 100% on the points in bold.

If I may add, anybody who wants acquire wealth would also like to see that such wealth is secured to last for his entire life-time, and even beyond; and acquiring a tangible asset, especially a landed property, is one of the surest ways to ensure and secure your future wealth; liquid assets, such as cash, are more susceptible to the many risks and vagaries of day-to-day business.

Most people, regardless of ethnic backgrounds, fully appreciate this simple economic fact and streetwise logic; maybe we see the Igbos buying more properties simply because, among all the ethnic groups in Nigeria, obviously the igbos have the largest number of economically empowered individuals who can afford multiple properties in their areas and elsewhere.

We should also not lose sight of the fact that apart from securing one's wealth for the future, buying and letting properties can also be a very lucrative business in its own, especially if you choose the location of the property sensibly, and with that purpose in mind.

And since the Igbos beat all the other Nigerian ethnic groups hands down when it comes to business acumen and entrepreneurial dexterity, we should not be surprised at all that the Nigerian masters of enterprise are at the forefront of taking this dual advantage of acquiring properties; i.e as security in the future, and as a way of making handsome earnings, in the present in the form of rents.

So you (OP) should be proud of your people for being so affluent and smart; I think any enlightened person would wish there were so many individuals from his ethnic group who are so economically empowered, and so smart, as to be buying so many landed properties in so many places, within and outside the country, as your people do!
ALL Nigerians are into buying and selling of lands. It is called BUSINESS. It has nothing to do with a neighbor who may or may not be coveteous of your properties. That is why we have laws.

The great Mark Twain had this to say about land:

"Buy land, for they ain't making more of it".

BTW OP why not sell your lands to locals in exchange for peace? I bet you they would sell it again tomorrow to the highest bidder. Better yet, sell yours wherever they are and come and buy mine in Nnewi . It is a free world! cool
PoliticsRe: Boko Haram Death Threat: SSS Advises Wole Soyinka To Shave Beards by Onlytruth(m): 3:59am On Feb 08, 2012
Prof Soyinka should relocate to the East and stay there. Nothing will happen to him there. He can choose between Owerri (Imo) and Uyo (Akwa Ibom); he will be very safe there.
He needs a place with very low Muslim population (whether locals or migrants) in Nigeria.
That man is an asset and must be protected by all means.  cool
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 7:09am On Feb 07, 2012
Negro_Ntns:
they equally accuse you, as do other Nigerians, of your "born to occupy" mentality.  In fact your last statement is indicator of that.  If you do not see any issue with occupying and monopolising host territory, why do you feel a sense of injustice at being denied by a people that want to occupy and monopolise rulership?
Just to indulge you again once this week. Can you show me any part of Nigeria where Igbo people monopolize land ownership? I dare you to show me, even in Igboland.
As far as I know, in Igboland, if you have the money and the owner of land is looking for a buyer, he will sell his land whether you are from Mars.

But you people need to keep distributing these lies to justify your failure to outcompete the Igbo.
We are not even interested in these lies, that is why I tell my people to defend their properties in all parts of Nigeria. The day y'all will want to divide Nigeria, let us know. We will tell you how much our properties are worth and you must then pay; else be prepared to get it by war.  cool
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 7:02am On Feb 07, 2012
Obiagu1:
What I understand is that Nigeria is not suppose to be one in any way.
If we cannot develop a city to compete with Tokyo, London, New York etc because natives don't want to be "tenants in their land", then I have no business with such country.
Exactly my brother!
This is part of why I engage in these arguments. They help expose the lies and deceits packaged inside the Nigerian experiment, and people die steadily in that experiment.
This debate enables the whole world to see what we have been saying all these years.
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 6:57am On Feb 07, 2012
PhysicsQED:
I guess I don't really agree with the "ends justifies the means" viewpoint all the time. In the case of Abuja, it doesn't really make sense to me that any Gwari people were relocated from their land if they didn't want to be, even if a Gwari general/dictator gave tacit approval to the whole thing. Is there really no "empty" (unoccupied by an ethnic group) land in the entire Middle belt? (if the country won't agree to have the capital in the south or far north)

And as a more general question, if the Chinese "develop" Malaysia through sheer economic brilliance, but the country is no longer really run by Malays because the Chinese are dominant in Malaysian academia, education, medicine, engineering, corporate business, etc., is it really Malaysia anymore?

I'm not a staunch nativist or anything, but the position I'm advocating for seems like common sense.
I'm disappointed in the bolded.
What is "Malay"? What is Edo? What is Igbo?
Wouldn't you agree that no nation is sacrosant and untouchable? Each nation is a product of years of immigration and mixing up and even morphing of different groups.

To answer your question, the country will still remain MALAYSIA despite heavy Chinese influence! SMH.
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 6:53am On Feb 07, 2012
Obiagu1:
Stop using lies to back up your faulty premise.

Hausa in control of 70% of Jos economy huh
Nigeria is a country plagued with irrationality and mental problems. undecided
Imagine.

If we want to tear off Igboland now, they will accuse us of blue murder.
What they want is for Nigeria to remain ONE inside the 18th century, plagued by primordial and atavistic fears, suspicions and hatreds.

One of these days, one thing must happen: either break up that country, or we will defend our houses in all parts of Nigeria.  cool
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 6:41am On Feb 07, 2012
@PhysicsQED

I was pondering on this funny fear that anyone would become "tenant in his own land" (assuming the East for a second), but then, people in Abuja are already becoming "tenants in their own land" after all how many Abuja indigenes own buildings there? lol

So, you see, that claim is very specious and funny. I say so because it is happening more in current Nigeria of 36 states than the former regions.
You are right that the regions would have reached some kind of agreement on those issues because, well, power resides at the regional levels.
Now that power is concentrated in Abuja, methinks that "land grabbing" is most likely worse now, and EVERY Nigerian is guilty of it!

For me, as an Igbo man who is always feared and suspected in parts of Nigeria, this is part of why I say it always that I have no other problem with current Nigeria, except the core North "born to rule" mentality. That is part of why I urge my people Ndigbo to never cede any land they legally bought, under any circumstance.   cool
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 6:39am On Feb 07, 2012
@PhysicsQED

I was pondering on this funny fear that anyone would become "tenant in his own land" (assuming the East for a second), but then, people in Abuja are already becoming "tenants in their own land" after all how many Abuja indigenes own buildings there? lol

So, you see, that claim is very specious and funny. I say so because it is happening more in current Nigeria of 36 states than the former regions.
You are right that the regions would have reached some kind of agreement on those issues because, well, power resides at the regional levels.
Now that power is concentrated in Abuja, methinks that "land grabbing" is most likely worst now, and EVERY Nigerian is guilty of it!

For me, as an Igbo man who is always feared and suspected in parts of Nigeria, this is part of why I say it always that I have no other problem with current Nigeria, except the core North "born to rule" mentality. That is part of why I urge my people Ndigbo to never cede any land they legally bought, under any circumstance.  cool
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 2:48am On Feb 07, 2012
NRI PRIEST:
EZEIGBO,ekenelum gi nke nnukwu. . . Kam bia debezia mma na ana!
Dalu rinne Ezemmuo Igbo!
Agha anyi na anu bu agha uche. Biko ka anyi buru na obi na ofu onye siere oha oha erichaa, mana oha siere ofu onye, o gaghi ericha ya.

Thanks again bros! wink
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 2:44am On Feb 07, 2012
ChinenyeN:
The only way the above quote can be rationalized is under the assumption that there exists some kind of collective, Igbo hegemony (the implication of intent). Incidentally, we all know that to not be true. So, long story short, the above quote is baseless and essentially nonsense.

Honestly, the day people learn to stop erroneously treating the Igbo's "adventurous" or "industrious" nature as collective force, is the day that they realize how unfounded their sentiment is, and then stop (in the words of my mother) "tearing their trousers unnecessarily".

Igbo do not have a "fear of Yoruba curbing excesses".
Igbo do not have a fear of anybody.
Personally, I simply do not like "born to rule" mentality, by the core North, which it occassionally enforces violently, killing innocent people. Apart from this mentality, I can say boldly that I do not see any other problem with them.  cool I can stay in Nigeria with them the moment they repudiate, cease and desist from this behaviour.  angry

They cannot outcompete me in anything. I cannot compete against them in the field of terror and mass murder. It is a repugnant field.

So, alj-Harem, please go back to school.  undecided
PoliticsRe: Ezeife To Ndigbo! Defend Yourself Wherever You Are by Onlytruth(op): 1:57am On Feb 07, 2012
Women, children, students and corpers should go home. Others should stay there and learn how to fight or how to defend themselves.
We should not be repeating history and expecting change.
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 1:36am On Feb 07, 2012
I feel a need to explain to my Igbo brothers that I have not read anywhere here on this thread where any Igbo is claiming Edo, or trying to imply that we need Edo for anything. It is almost laughable to even make that conclusion.
Some of you need to understand Nigerian political scenario properly, especially to learn how not to cede alliances and territories where you don't need to.
As far as I know, Edo people remain neutral and some of them would lean Eastwards if push comes to shove. I really don't want to talk more on this.

Oba Erediauwa is a leader and so may even have been quoted out of context, but even if he meant what that quote said, isn't the shame on him? Wouldn't intelligent folks in Edo dissociate from him and that quote? My main point is that I have learned enough of Nigeria's history to never cede my ground even in the North, talk less of Southern Nigeria.
Currently in southern Nigeria, the ONLY group I wouldn't want to associate much with is the Yoruba. It is not a mark of weakness, but a mark of strength!
Shaka Zulu said that "a leopard is a strong animal, but if he is offered wings, he would be a fool to refuse."  cool
Isolationism will not aid us much in Nigeria. We have to learn how not to lose focus on the bigger picture, basically side stepping minor irritations and distractions.

Here I stand!  cool
PoliticsRe: Ezeife To Ndigbo! Defend Yourself Wherever You Are by Onlytruth(op): 11:21pm On Feb 06, 2012
Like I said before, the only reason why anyone would tell Igbos to run to the East is because of human IMPULSE. When faced with a danger, a human instict is to run away. But an intelligent and visionary human being must not act based on impulse alone, else, you may play right into the hands of your enemy. Instict will come, but you must rise above it to make a CALCULATED decision.

The first question I would like answered is, "Are we sure that Boko Haram is not a multi-staged operation like the counter coup of 1966? Eg, start killing Igbos in North and West, they ran chaotically to the East leaving behind their assets and strategic advantage, causing a huge refugee problem in the East. While Ojukwu was dealing with that refugee situation, the enemy launched the second phase which basically dared Ojukwu to try seceding and see what would happen (Hassan Katsina 1967). Ojukwu seeing that Ndigbo had been boxed in, rejected calls of secession by Igbo and Easterners. The pressure continued unabated until he declared Biafra. The war started IN IGBOLAND and Eastern Nigeria. The North and West went about their businesses as if nothing was going on, while we were dying in the East. The war was fought and lost in the East.

Now, the same scenario is being experimented again by "Boko Haram" (a Northern military scheme to repeat history) and some people are here telling us to play as they hoped we would. There is constant flow of information indicating the Boko Haram is being sponsored by key Northern politicians and leaders.

Anyway, I'm even talking more and more about this because I want our Igbo leaders to never forget how we lost the war. We started losing the moment we ran to the East.
Notice I don't consider the West as safe haven for Igbo because it wasn't that much safe for us during the war. When shEET hits the fans, we don't know how some southern groups will react again. Some may even join aboki again.

My job remains to ensure that Igbo NEVER repeats the mistakes that led to Biafra's defeat.
I will never relent in harping on this message. cool cool cool
PoliticsRe: The Yoruba Kiriji Wars (1877 - 1893) by Onlytruth(m): 10:45pm On Feb 06, 2012
Andre Uweh:
Say no to the above. The Hausa-Fulani will seize that opportunity to sack the entire Yorubaland. That has always been their wish.  There is no ethnic group in this Africa that hates the Yorubas more than the Hausa- Fulani.
The Yorubas should be united at all time to withstand Hausa-Fulani aggression.
hehehe! They think it is that sticks and stones hide and seek chasing games they were playing with themselves calling it "war". I dey laugh.
Aboki has been itching to thoroughly colonize their @sses and dip that Koran in the Lagos lagoon.
War ko, rat race ni. undecided
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 10:29pm On Feb 06, 2012
odumchi:
Let me clear up this confusion about SE/SS relations. Now, a large percentage of the SS is already Igbo (7 million plus in both Delta and Rivers). As for the other people, the Igbo have a special relationship with them.

Take the Ibibio/Efik for example. The relationship between Ibibio/Efik and Igbo is almost like that of he Hausa and Fulani. Since pre-colonial times, the Igbo (in certain places) have coexisted peacefully with the Ibibio and Efik. For example on my hometown, many people some Ibibio as a second language. Since precolonial times, we have been trading and intermarrying with them.

Personally, I have many friends who are Efik, and although they aren't Igbo, they visit Arochukwu with their parents. Most of these people are Efik and journey anually from Calabar and other towns in Cross-Rivers state. Just to try and get my message across, I'll use a personal account. I have a friend who visits from Calabar and despite the fact that he doesn't speak Igbo very well, he stated that he felt at home and safe in my town and Igboland in general. Hopefully, this account will eliminate a consoderable amount of bickering and back to forth arguing about how the SS in general feel about SEerners.

Also, during the Biafran war, one side of my family fled to Ibibioland to avoid persecution. The Ibibio treated them like they were their own. They fed them, hid them in their homes and successfully taught them Ibibio. This is another supporting detail to the fact that only brotherly love exists between the Igbo and most of peoples that live in the SS. Why I say most is because their are no absolutes but from the best of my knowledge (Igbomen, Efikmen/Ibibiomen, Ijawmen, Edomen, and Urhobomen are all brothers.
Seconded powerfully!  cool

BTW @Katsumoto, let me end our argument here because I know there is no way on earth anyone would win any verbal debate with you and your people. Una mouth naim be una weapon. lol
So, there you go: Easterners are the weakest Nigerians. Now can you let this thread continue its natural course?

PapaBrowne (an Edo man) nailed this thread long ago!  lol  cool cool cool
CultureRe: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Onlytruth(m): 6:46pm On Feb 06, 2012
alj harem:
+ 10 bawo ni ?

see me supporting Nzegowu not knowing the motive behind it

na wa for this people especially eze ndigbo Nairaland
Nzeogwu and crew wanted to tame FEUDALISM in Nigeria.
Guess who practices feudalism?

Also guess what Gideon Orkar wanted to do? Same thing! He even wanted to excise the core North from Nigeria.
Now, continue playing hide and seek.

Nama. cheesy
PoliticsRe: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by Onlytruth(m): 6:42pm On Feb 06, 2012
^^

My friend sharrap dia. Goat.
Are you an importer? Have you ever travelled outside of Birnin Kebbi?

Let me tell you how it is done in real life. cool

If you want to import into Nigeria, you go to a shipping company and inquire about ports in Nigeria to ship your items to.
Most times, what about 95% of them tell me is that they only ship to Lagos.
Now if you pry them more, they say they can also ship to these other ports, but then if you are smart, you would know that there must be some "K-leg" with those ports.
Then, if you know Nigeria very well, you know that ANY little problem could cost you the container itself. You could lose your good!
Now, how many traders can take such risk?

Those ports will remain unused until the shipping companies accept them, for whatever reason.

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