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[quote author=edo.girl]It's all down to viability. The price of LNG collapsed on the world market a few years back, and though it has improved a bit, new gas discoveries have been made in many more countries (including East Africa)thus meaning there are more supply sources. Paradoxically, much of Nigeria's gas can't be sold locally due to low domestic prices.[/quote]Actually the above in bold is not true in its entirety. I have a very reliable source at Bonny LNG who stated that it was more profitable selling our liquefied natural gas to local manufacturing companies at Aba, Ota, Enugu and elsewhere. We all know that the companies at Aba buys gas from either Shell Gas or LNG. Do you think Shell and Total supply gas to Bonny LNG for free? Very cheap source of energy translates to very cheap product - and you can imagine the multiplier effect on consumer goods etc etc. As a matter of fact, we as a nation stand to benefit hugely from low energy prices. Environmental degradation as a result of using firewood and kerosene will stop when you can buy cheap liquefied petroleum gas and use for cooking. Imagine every home in Nigeria with gas lines to their homes for cooking. Shouldn't that be something everyone should desire? |
naptu2: +100. Very good post.The stuff in bold, I agree with totally. |
Four years after BG Group divested from Olokola LNG project, two other International Oil Companies, IOC, Chevron and Shell, have pulled out, a source has said.@naptu2, So, what then is the above saying about Shell and Chevron? - oh okay, because their spokesmen were not on ground to ''confirm'' Vanguard's story? Well. I don't think Vanguard will publish something like this if there isn't anything concrete to suggest same. But then again, you may be right, anything can happen in Naija. |
@Gbawe, Hmnn...you sound like one new guy on Nairaland. Did you click on the link I posted earlier on? The whole Olokola thing was founded on corruption. Anyway, when you're done reading the thread I opened about that project in 2006, come back lets chat. |
trillville: You are starting to sound like Buhari, I just pray that you will not start crying after every four years like him.Nahh...I'm not interested in politics. Read my words up there, it must be by some stroke of luck for me to get that far. But that doesn't mean I won't be actively fighting against corruption in my corner of Nigeria. |
esere, At least, by the time I'm done, some FEAR would have been instilled in those 100..and maybe, just maybe, I would have put the mechanisms in place to discourage corruption and corrupt practices. I appreciate the fact that these things take time and will not achieve 100% performance. |
trillville: I do not want to sound unpatriotic but please if you can find something to do in the UK do not come back home. I made the same bloody mistake after my undergrad. If you want to steal money, it makes sense coming back here but if your idea is to make a difference, you may end up messing ur life up.I have said this before, and I will say it again: I am coming back for my country - and I will ruthlessly purge that country of EVERYTHING corruption - so help me God! I have travelled round the world and have seen how organized things can be. I am going to do all in my powers to make certain that we get that needed change to move forward as a nation. Blood will flow. Many fat cats will die and they should be ready. Ono will not/never be gentle with corruption. Watch out for me guys. |
esere826: ^^^esere826, Well, the thing is I find it very hard to mix corruption with good. Whatever good comes out of anything corrupt must be some kind of Greek gift to the Trojans. I have lived long enough on this planet to know that. I like to call a spade what it is. As per the spoiling and fermenting you alluded to, in order to make a tasty cheese, that must be your own personal view - and that's fine, we're all entitled to our own opinion. I await 99cents rebuttal. |
^^^These things starts somewhere my dear. You need to have 'sufficient' clean history about yourself to be able to properly beat your chest and condemn anything that's corrupt. How can you stand on a higher pedestal and condemn others if you do not have the moral standing to do so? |
99cent: well that's because we are HUMAN. All humans are predisposed to corruption in absense of law enforcement. regardless of class OR nationality.Now, let me tell you a bit about myself. I've had to tell one 'oyinbo' guy who showed me a 'shortcut' way around paying for goods in a retail store in Houston that I will NOT follow his advice. You know what he said? You MUST be a different Nigerian. I have been asked if I will stay back in the UK after my program by some folks from Khazakstan. I told them that whatever knowledge I have gained MUST be put to the greater and general use of my country Nigeria and that I have no plans or desire to stay back in the UK. I do not belong there and home is Nigeria. I had gone for their Khazakstani day in the school. Their response: You're a different Nigerian. Back home in Naija. I have refused a 1500 dollars bribe (raw American dollars cash in an envelope) meant to influence my decision to 'alter' the award recommendation to our board for a contract. You can say 1500 dollars is a small amount of money - but this is how it starts. If you're not faithful in a small amount, how can you be faithful when millions come your way? Now, that's some little story about myself. If I delve into personal 'issues' you will know that I am a no-nonsense Nigerian and a 'meritocratic' inclined human being. I consciously purge myself of every desire to tell a lie. I was a virgin when I married my wife. And although 'tempted' to have extra-marital affairs, I have, by the grace of God been faithful to my wife. I do not live above my means. I cut my coat according to my size and the quality of the clothing stuff I can buy. I don't look down on others who don't have the same opportunity as I do, and I don't envy anyone who have more than I do. But I passionately hate corruption. I have told several of my friends that they should watch out for me in the future. I have warned them that if I venture into politics, and I become the president of this country by some stoke of luck, I am going to sacrifice myself and the life of anyone found to be corrupt for the liberation of this country from the jaws of corruption, nepotism, religious bigotry, indiscipline, laziness and ethnic rivalry. Everything will be done on merit. Tim did say in his write up that there are indeed some 10% or so Nigerians who are honest and true. I can beat my chest and say I belong to that group. Now, that's a little 'something' about myself. Should I ask that you 'say' something about yourself? I am sure the corruption gene is in your blood, but who knows, lets hear from you. |
I ''prophesized'' this will happen to that project, back in the days..haha. https://www.nairaland.com/21679/olokola-lng-niger-delta-question |
99cent: I see ur point. it's fine to appreciate what he wrote. I also do. but I just didn't agree with the pessimistic view that Nigeria will forever remain corrupt.Sorry mate, there was nowhere in that write up where he categorically stated that Nigeria will forever remain corrupt. Maybe you want to copy that out and paste here for all to see? 99cent: can you explain why u think law enforcement will not work?Good. In this one, we agree. So, law enforcement in Nigeria at the moment is NOT one of the solutions to the problem of the country. |
99cent: nigerian teachers who sit in their staff room buying and selling merchandise rather than teaching students in d classroom.are they corrupt? sure. but why are they doing what they are doing? they will be the first to point the finger at the govt for being corrupt but they also are corrupt but they rationalize their corruption because they are not getting paid their monthly salaries etc. that makes perfect rational sense hence why corruption will never go away until we have proper enforcement of laws concerning salaries, supervision, oversight etc. even those who are corrupt will not feel guilt. the police man collecting bribe to feed his family. do u expect him to feel guilt?Here, you've merely buttressed Tim's views that the type of corruption prevalent in Nigeria knows no class. From the cleaner that helps clean my desktop computer and my other gadget and frequently asks for ''something'', to uncle GEJ and PDP cronies in Abuja, milking the country dry, corruption is rife, endemic. Nowhere in Tim's write up did he say he wasn't qualified for the job he did in Nigeria - I think going by what that man wrote up there, he will pen that down if he was into something not good. At least he did point out that some single expats go out with our Naija girls. Fair enough jare. |
99cent: I've read more coherent, objective write ups about the problem of corruption in Nigeria by foreigners. Infact, i've taken classes in international studies where i've been lectured about corruption in Nigeria by an american and foreign professionals. so maybe that's why I have a different perspective than you.Ok. Now, the weblink posted is just the guy's blog - it's not a formal ''training website'' of some sorts, or a ''corporate corruption-teaching website''. So, looking at stuff from that angle, you agree that this is the way Tim Newmann personally saw Nigeria during his stay in Lagos. He didn't even go to press with it. Had he published his findings in a ''corruption journal'' or Transparency International report now, I will put on a different hat analyzing his write up. And yes, while you're into international studies and stuff, I am an engineer - like Time Newmann. We definitely will view things from different angles. But we need to be very careful how we go about this. 99cent: remember that he is an expat himself. therefore what he is doing is pretty much making the expat problem one into one that has a solution. and then painting the "nigerian problem" as one that has no solution.Now, this isn't fair on the guy. If you read my explanation of what he wrote very well, he wasn't happy that we have folks who are qualified to do some jobs ''locked up'' and forgotten. He felt we're doing ourselves a great disservice by doing this. To me, that's fair enough. The expat thing he wrote was spot on. I have worked with some ''expat'' in my department whom I had to teach how to use MS Excel to do simple graphical presentation of historical well and reservoir performance. I was so shocked I wondered how he got in the company in the first place. I have also worked with an excellent British expat, who's working in Malaysia now, and I can tell you this one isn't a fake, lazy ass expat. He worked hard, he motivated me and several others and I know he's worth his salt. Law enforcement will NOT work in Nigeria - at least, for now. Lets not deceive ourselves. I don't even need to go about explaining anything on this one. |
Alright 99cent. I have tried to look at things from your angle. See, it's not all about bashing us in that piece or telling us what we know already. I think this piece is meant for us Nigerians to read, reflect and think about how we can come together and collectively solve the monstrous problem called corruption that's killing all of us. If we begin to look at the messenger instead of the message we will lose sight of what this man is trying to pass across. I felt bad reading all that was written in that piece, but that doesn't make it a lie. It's the stark n a k e d truth about my country - our country. Personally, I have never seen a coherent, thorough, graphic description of the socio-cultural and political write up about Nigeria, that's so well written by someone from another country. I used to think that folks from other parts of the world do not know us this much. But this piece proved me wrong. This guy knows more that I even do about my country. The guy also expressed his displeasure at the way ''expats'' who are not qualified in the first place troop into the country, while our people who are half decent and capable are relegated to the background or ''locked'' up somewhere. In that section he did provide a way out of this. He stated that people should be ''tested'' to check their suitability for a job or otherwise. That's solution enough. He probably couldn't fathom a solution to our other ''bigger'' corruption problems because it has defied all logical reasoning and he's so amazed at how we have come to embrace this in the country. In all, lets not feel insulted by the guy. I think he's a very blunt guy who tells stuff the way it is without mincing words - very much like me! |
@Stillwater, You brought out one of the main points in that write up. Bullseye! |
desgiezd: I agree with most of the things the guy observed and wrote about but after all said, what are the solutions to these myriad of problems or are we going to continue with it till the end of time? To me, this is the crux of the matter.You and I have been here long enough, desgiezd. Since we both joined this forum (05&06), have you seen anything written like this about Nigeria from a foreigner? As per solutions, I'm all eyes I am waiting for people to write something different from the killings and bloodshed that will follow the systematic elimination of people feeding from the rot that's Nigeria at the moment. I noticed that at some point, the writer implied that there's no way out for us - as far as he knows. Perhaps we Nigerians can be sincere enough for once in our life and call a spade a spade, accept that we have problems bedeviling us. That's the first part, then we can now move forward to other steps. Jakumo, please, I need you here. I will like to read your response to this burning ''report'' on Naija. |
If this is the complaints box of nairaland where mods listens to folks - then I implore you all mods to please move the topic on Nigeria and Nigerians to the first page and on number 1 spot for a very long time so that every living Nigerian on planet earth, who can read, comprehend and understand can see how the world see us. james_ibor has given the link. Debo (at least I know you) and Seun, please, for old time sakes, kindly move that topic to number 1 spot. Thanx. |
There is a culture so prevalent that it is a defining characteristic of Nigeria whereby no amount is ever enough, and no sum too small to be pilfered.This reminds me of a pastor asking for those who can donate 1 billion naira to see his secretary....and everyone else, those who can donate 100 naira as well, to give towards the building of a humongous 3km by 3km auditorium. From 1 billion naira to 100 naira - no amount is too small to be pilfered. It seems there's some kind of parallel relation between the Pentecostal church style of ''giving'' and the ''pilfering'' we see in every sphere of our national life. Pity. |
[quote author=james_ibor]The corruption, theft, and graft can take many forms: falsifying a CV (I don’t mean enhancing, I mean pretending you’re a Lead Piping Engineer of 12 years experience when actually, until yesterday, you were a fisherman); selling positions in a company; stealing diesel from the storage tanks you’re paid to protect; issuance of false material certificates; impersonating an immigration officer to access an office, from which you then tap up the people within to fund your latest venture; selling land which isn’t yours; deliberately running down the country’s refining capacity in order to partake in the lucrative import of fuels; falsifying delivery notes of said refined fuels in order to receive greater government subsidies; deliberately restricting the country’s power generation capacity in order to benefit from the importation of generators (which must be run on imported fuel); theft of half-eaten sandwiches and opened drink containers from the office fridge; tinkering with fuel gauges at petrol stations to sell customers short; conspiring with company drivers to issue false receipts indicating more fuel was supplied than actually was; supplying counterfeit safety equipment; falsifying certificates related to professional competence (e.g. rope access work); paying employees less than stipulated in their contract (or not at all); cloning satellite TV cards, meaning the legitimate user gets their service cut off when the other card is in use (the cards are cloned by the same people who issue the genuine cards); the list is literally endless. There is no beginning or end to corruption in Nigeria, it is a permanent fixture. Nepotism is rife: family members are employed and promoted before anyone else. Outright theft is rife: from a pen lying on a desk, to billions from the state coffers. Dishonesty is rife: from the state governors to the street urchin, lying to enrich yourself is the norm. You name the scam, it is being done in Nigeria. Eventually, nothing surprises you. As I said before, you’ll find such practices everywhere, but to nowhere near the extent found in Nigeria.[/quote]hmnnn...na wa o. So, oyinbo people dey see these things too? |
Alright, so we agree on ''that'' point right? |
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Tony Spike: I'm bewildered by the sheer accuracy of this article...It takes a true thinker to understand the indepth analysis of the Nigerian "problem" discussed by the writer. I'll discuss my opinions later...My dear, I have read several articles about Nigeria in the past. None compares with this one. It's in a different class of it's own. The thorough analysis, comparisons, objectivity and seamless transitions from one level to the other beats me. I doubt Wole Soyinka or anyone else will do better. And to think the guy is an engineer. I'm stunned. I kept nodding my head as I read one paragraph and move to the next. It's just like playing my favourite songs to my hearing. I've been dancing ''awilo'' since. |
@james_ibor, That's the ''class'' distinction and ''degree'' thing the British expat explained from the start of his article. It's not like the corruption plague is not rampant in other places of the world. But the one in Nigeria is UNIQUE. It's a SPECIAL kind, and like X-Imhotep rightly pointed out, it's in OUR genetic make up. Corruption par excellence. The classless type where a PhD holder, if allowed to rule the country, will not do anything different from what a street urchin will do. I have seen that many folks on this board can read articles, and reading they sure do very well - like my little 6-year old girl. But when it comes to comprehension, it's a different kettle of fish altogether. Many Nigerian ''readers'' can hardly comprehend what's been read. It has degenerated to that level. Yes. So so sad. |
Why on earth is this not in the front page yet ?? EVERY living Nigerian on planet earth MUST read this article urgently! |
[quote author=james_ibor]Summarising it will not only make the article less interesting but also take away some salient points and messages. Every paragraph seem to carry a specific message.[/quote]Indeed bro, indeed. I have taken the pains to read the write up about 3 times now. Every time I read it, I get new information about Naija again. Kai! This is serious. |
Obi1kenobi: Why would he cry you an ocean? He comes from a first world, industrialized nation and has a high powered career travelling round the world. Who should care more: you living in denial or him telling you what every rational person that isn't deluded knows about your utterly hopeless country?biko, tell am o! |
He implied that it was during Babangida's regime that everything went haywire - and he was right! |
The Mods, whoever they are should please put this right on top of the front page list, please. |
Without a shadow of doubt, this one really lived the Naija life. I like the way he was able to pen down all of his observations about the country, and I dare say he did an excellent job of it. I don't think I would have done any better. Well done British expat. |
"If Nigerians were yet to commend a leader after 53 years of independence, then we are jinxed and cursed; we should all go to hell.” These were the very words of former President Olusegun Obasanjo few days back during a presentation at the 4th Annual Ibadan sustainable Development Summit at University of Ibadan, Oyo State. The ex-Head of State condemned the younger generation of leaders in the country, saying that they lack integrity and probity and have failed their people woefully" Ever since the former president delivered his damning, magisterial verdict, public reaction to his pronouncement has been rather varied. In the main, most Nigerians have hailed President Obasanjo for his unfailing outspokenness and his uncompromising rendition of truth however unsavoury and disagreeable it might sound. However, what is not readily acknowledged by most Nigerians in their readings about some of our leaders’ comments and actions is that appearance is not necessarily reality and that what we so hurriedly construe to mean the fact could eventually turn out to become a farce. In this treatise, I seek to add some analytic flesh to the dry bones of Obasanjo’s comment. To be sure, I totally agree with Obasanjo that our (younger) leaders have failed their people agonizingly; I agree with him that we should all take a journey to hell! Nevertheless, I seek to use this auspicious medium to imprint on the consciousness of Nigerians the fact that, in the event that we all set out for hell, no other leader – dead or alive – in the entire history of Nigeria is more deserving of being the captain of the excursion to hell than Obasanjo himself. by the same token, no other leader merits the privilege of presenting a letter of credence to the devil than the former Head of State, Olusegun Obasanjo. One of the tragic demerits of the approach so often adopted by most Nigerians in assessing the performance of their leaders is the tendency to treat leadership as an isolated event rather than a continuum. At such, in decrying the shortfalls of an incumbent regime, we de-historicize our analysis by failing to establish the critical linkage between the past and the present, between the failings of present leadership and the willful (and often costly) miscarriages of preceding leaderships. It is this inclination to condemn the present by denying the past that has provided ex-President Obasanjo the ammunition to be pissing in the wind by condemning Nigerians and their leaders. One of the hallmarks of true leadership is the ability to ensure that one’s achievement of success outlives him. That is why it is said that “success without successor is failure in disguise.” Thankfully, Nelson Mandela’s qualification as a fitting example to this truism can hardly be disputed. His regime as Head of State in South Africa was as brief as a thunderbolt; yet, its impact and its legacies are as enduring and immutable as imprints engraved on a rocky surface. Today, South Africa has become the latest addition to the potpourri of countries our leaders, including Obasanjo himself, covet for leisure, tourism, sound healthcare and superlative education. Paradoxically, we can hardly render the same testimony about our own self-acclaimed “father of modern Nigerian,” Chief Olusegun Obasanjo. If anything, Obasanjo personifies a dialectical negation of what leaders like Nelson Mandela represent. His relatively lengthy rulership (both as a military and civilian Head of State) has basically translated into a “Golgotha experience” for most Nigerians. What was Obasanjo’s record at instituting a credible process that will throw up a worthy successor who would ensure that Obasanjo’s legacies (if any) are not eclipsed by history. On this score, Obasanjo proved to be such an unpardonable disaster. Propelled by the desire to perpetuate himself in power during his second reign as civilian president, this imperial leader enthroned what could rightly pass as the worst specie of electoral rigging, using the infamous and highly villainous umpire, Maurice Iwu, as a legitimizing rubber-stamp, Elections under his tenure were characterized by violent breeches technically codified as “do or die affair.” However disillusioned we might be today regarding the present government in power, the bitter, inescapable truth is that the umbilical cord of this present regime is deeply wired up in Obasanjo’s political abdomen. Incensed by the intransigence of Nigerians to kowtow to his third term bid, Obasanjo orchestrated a deliberate constriction of the democratic space by disallowing electoral competition especially within his party, muscling the aspiration of more credible candidates and dealing a devastating blow to the few who had that “balls” to dare him by invoking the talismanic, rigging expertise of Maurice Iwu. What was the end result: a sickly, departure lounge-seated President Umoru Yar’dua and his lucky, zoology-trained, leutenant – Goodluck Jonathan. How could the younger generation of leaders not fail? If Obasanjo embodies the worst example of political succession, his footprints on the economic landscape of Nigeria is all the more ghastly. While hiding under the ideological subterfuge that “government has no business with business, only the private-sector can profitably run enterprises”, Obasanjo proceeded to r*pe what is left of Nigeria’s tottering economy by using privatization as a cover to engage in the criminal disposal of national assets. In case Nigerians have forgotten, it is an established fact that 80 percent of the 128 nationally-owned companies privatized during the regime of Obasanjo failed. Today, most of those privatized companies are nothing more than mere institutional carcasses. In 2011, a Committee set up by the Senate to probe Obasanjo’s privatization programme turned in a startling report. Just two examples will suffice: The Aluminium Smelting Company (ALSCON), Ikot Abasi, which was set up with $3.2 billion, was sold to a Russian firm, Russai, for a paltry $130 million. Delta Steel Company, Aladja Delta State, which was built in 2005 by the Nigerian government at a cost of $1.5 was sold to Global Steel Infrastructure, a company believed to be fronting for Obasanjo and never submitted a bid, at a cost of $30 (Vanguard Newspaper: August 18, 2011). In the guise of fighting economic corruption, Obasanjo ended up elevating corruption to the status of a state religion. Most of the notorious looters being pilloried today by Obasanjo were in fact firmly incubated during his regime as Nigeria’s civilian president. As Sonala Olumhense had observed, “Obasanjo boisterously invokes such names as James Ibori, Tinubu and Igbinedion, but conveniently forgets that in 2006, he ignored a report he had commissioned and refused to prosecute 15 indicted governors, including those three.” Perhaps, the worst of Obasanjo’s economic treachery and the most heinous of his disservice to Nigerians was the shoddiness with which he managed the power sector and the spectacular failure that emanated therefrom. It remains an inexplicable scandal that Obasanjo spent about $16 billion dollars just to entrench country-wide darkness at a time when the country’s power-generating capacity was a miserable 2,000 megawatts. Just like his counterfeit privatization exercise, his electricity schemes were nothing more than conduit pipes for financial racketeering by an oligopolistic cabal. What were the effects of these and many more atrocious legacies bequeathed by Obasanjo to younger generation of Nigerians? First, it created a culture of political brigandage which, till date, remains a defining attribute of our democracy. Nigerians will readily remember the notorious shenanigans of elements like Andy Uba in Anambra State and Pa Adedibu in Oyo state. Second, it crystallized a distorted, disarticulated economy characterized by rent-seeking, cronyism and dependency syndrome; an economy in which the exponential blossoming of a microscopic few runs side by side with the stupendous pauperization of an overwhelming majority. Third, it institutionalized structural unemployment by decimating the vital foundations for job creation and entrepreneurship, namely: stable electricity, decent transport infrastructures, incentivization of the private sector, a hospitable political environment and a legal/regulatory framework that is clearly predictable, incorruptible and autonomous. Finally, it midwifed the induction of a teeming generation of younger Nigerians who had grown up to become faithless about the viability of the Nigerian project and have had to resort to brutish means for survival and self-actualization, hence, their portrayal as a failed generation by Obasanjo. To sum up my points, if there is any leader that has failed its people, Obasanjo epitomizes a cardinal example of such failure. If Nigerians were yet to commend a leader after 53 years of nationhood, it is precisely because Obasanjo and his breed of predatory rulers have foreclosed such possibilities by driving a fatal nail in the coffin of good and exemplary leadership. And if we should all go to hell because we have failed as a people, then, Obasanjo should lead a one-man advance team to hell to prepare the ground, just as the biblical Moses dispatched 12 spies to Canaan to survey the Promised Land. By Ugochukwu Raymond |
peppy luv: Same way he banned me. The guy is simply tribalistic.can't forget that night when a group of touts headed by d ugly old man dayokonu aka dayoolodo! Saying all sorts of rubbish on a thread that only concerns Anambarians not evn Igbos,he didn't warn or ban them but immediately I hit them hard with d pics of their ancestor awolowo committing suicideI have been following your posts. I just dey laugh since. You go sabi pick quarrel well well...haha. |
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?? EVERY living Nigerian on planet earth MUST read this article urgently!