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macof: The ultimate form of Energy is God and it's consciousbut how did he become conscious? or is consciousness an irreducible unit? |
Image123: You don't have to elucidate on your frustrations on a social forum.you just go to Jerusalem without a visa, and lets see if you wont be in the next available plane as the macof already told you ode... |
obadiah777: he is a force. an energy. a spiritand how did he become conscious? |
tobechi74: Theism is not a whiteman concept.our forefathers are theist.christianity, not theism.... is what we re talking about.... |
obadiah777: God is an energy. a force, if you willand how did he become conscious? |
obadiah777: God came first.from what? |
FOLYKAZE: Why do you think women are most numbered in miracle centers and churches? |
joel lala: Experimentation done by the White man right??there are laboratories in Nigeria right? |
joel lala: As long as you believe you evolved from apes, you are and will continue to be a white man's slave..oh, there are some... Ori lababo, aba forisha sile .... meaning, we should have looked into our selfs rather than worship gods.... and i seem to remember a Yoruba story that says that monkey tried to become human by eating some concoctions prescribed by a herbalist, but ate too much so it remained between human and animal and lot more of Yoruba folklore about change in organisms and weak atheism but here is not the place for reiterating myths.... ![]() |
obadiah777: God and his creation you mean ? smdhgod or his creation |
macof: can u answer- who created Energy?energy cannot be created or destroyed.... and its not conscious, so it doesnt need a creator.... |
Logicboy03: lol.....fail.still another perfect....keep up the good work of logic... ![]() |
Logicboy03: lol.....atheism has nothing to do with evolution. Atheism is not science.another perfect reply....no need for reiteration.... |
Logicboy03: @ Joel Lalaperfect reply... |
[quote author=Ijele-igbo]Point of correction! This world is created by God and not god! Secondly, god or gods are created by man! They can be made of gold, timber, wood, iron etc.... These gods are man-made that cannot see, talk or hear!! God created Lucifer who was an Angel and later became the Devil!!! God is the beginning and the last..... He is the creator of the Heaven and earth, seas, animals and plants....... God is the greatest!!! Glory unto his name forever and ever!!![/quote]ode |
obadiah777: point here is if the egg and chicken can exist without knowing which came first, there is a God and creation. which came first or who created the first ? i dont know, but the analogy of the chicken and egg tells you that its a realityso which came first, god or his creator? |
obadiah777: righttttt ? lolthat's because i know you are still going a long way down, so i got down straight |
joel lala: Bros, you make your own researches based on the articles the same white masters have written down..that is why you cant explain the creation of life because they made it compulsory for you not too..oh if its hypothesis that you want about the evolution of life, there is so much of that, but unlike you, i just dont believe everything without proper experimentation... |
obadiah777: Indeed and who created the eggand who created he who created the egg? |
Atheism & Skepticism in Africa As Durant explains, certain Pygmy tribes found in Africa were observed to have no identifiable cults or rites. There were no totems, no gods, no spirits. Their dead were buried without special ceremonies or accompanying items and received no further attention. They even appeared to lack simple superstitions, according to travelers' reports. Full story here: http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismhistory/a/PrimitiveAtheismSkepticism.htm |
obadiah777: who came first, the egg or the chicken ? who created the chicken ? and if the egg came first, who created the egg ?question to answer a question anyway, the egg came first, evolutionary modification in the eggs brought about chicken, just as evolutionary changes in foxes brought about dogs |
How an Amazonian tribe turned a missionary into an atheist: This missionary, who went to the Piraha people is now an atheist, his story: Daniel Everett, 57, a linguist in the Departmental Chair of Languages, Literatures and Cultures at Illinois State University, told presenter John McCarthy on the Excess Baggage programme, that he had travelled to the Amazon in the 70s to bring the tribe “the joy of faith” only to discover that they were a deeply contented people. In fact they seemed far better contented than he was. ........ .......... ............ According to Wikipedia, Everett “was having serious doubts by 1982, and had lost all faith by 1985 after having spent a year at MIT. He would not tell anyone about his atheism for another 19 years; when he finally did, his marriage ended in divorce and two of his three children broke off all contact.” ...... ............. ................... his full story here : http://freethinker.co.uk/2008/11/08/how-an-amazonian-tribe-turned-a-missionary-into-an-atheist/ |
Natural tribes without a god concept [quote author= The Piraha People]Daniel Everett studied this primitive tribe, the Piraha people and according to Everett, the Pirahã have no concept of a supreme spirit or god, and they lost interest in Jesus when they discovered that Everett had never seen him. They require evidence based on personal experience for every claim made.[/quote]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_people For reason sake, this are primitive people who aren't even educated nor know anything about evolution... When will Africans begin to see? |
if this world was created by god, who created god. |
ROSSIKE: Actually, they've been made to ''believe'' the dead white man woke up on the third day and ascended ''into heaven'', with ''heaven'' of course being ''somewhere up in the sky''. It's really laughable. Grown men actually believe this.its just unbelievable |
OLAADEGBU: You can't contradict yourself. If you know that it will be foolhardy to jump off a plane without a parachute, what makes you think it will be logical to jump through the gates of death without putting on Jesus Christ? Our Lord Jesus Christ is risen from the dead, He's risen and is alive to break your free fall into the abyss.i already believe the Flying Pig is alive around me, and i have already put on the Flying Pig, i have no room for your dead man... |
cyrexx: Nice, but where is the download link?just right click on the picture and click 'save image as'.... |
joel lala: You do worship them thats why you believe everything the white atheist man saysoh pls, i dont believe everything the white man says, i make my own researches, this is why i could free myself from childhood religious ideas in the first place... you on the contrary believe what they say, this is why you cant question the god they made compulsory for you.... |
striktlymi: Brain defect is your proof that souls do not exist?brain defects are enough to make me understand that there is no spirit bringing about consciousness, because brain defects immediately affects consciousness, except you wanna tell me it doesnt... |
striktlymi: Did Energy come from a created place?guy, once again, you are confused... You claim energy is conscious, i said its not. I debate for an unconscious energy, you debate for a conscious energy, which is uncreated, yet you claim every other thing must be created, this is where there is conflict. If this conscious energy of yours does not need a creator, then the universe, less complex than this conscious, complex, personal god of yours, does not need a creator too, it an come into existence by natural processes, because its not conscious. Consciousness does not just pop into existence, it requires maximum complexity, selection and arrangement as brought about by evolution. So dont use the definition of energy to define your god, until you can prove energy is conscious, has a personality and a brain. striktlymi: First of, I didn't say consciousness is exclusive to the brain.you directly implied that.. striktlymi: Secondly, your questions are 'straws' because they have nothing to do with whether consciousness is from Energy or not.oh common, dont change your words...what you claimed was that the brain has consciousness because its powered by a conscious energy. This immediately suggests that consciousness is exclusive to the brain, so answer the questions... ![]() striktlymi: Because you say so?because you havent provided any!! striktlymi: Hmmm...then your gods works arent perfect or incorruptible.....its good you are beginning to see the weakness in your god. striktlymi: See above for proof. You make comments that are unrelated to my posts. striktlymi: But you are prepared to take it by faith that Energy is not conscious?not by faith, but by observation. Cars does not immediately become conscious when they become filled by energy. Or do they? striktlymi: Anyways, no one is asking you to take it by faith.am not arguing this for now, what am asking is: how then did the first conscious agent come to be? you do realise that the bolded suggest a god for your god, then a god for the god of your god and a god for the god of the god of the god of your god and that goes on ad infinitum....... This is why there cant be gods, because the existence of one immediately makes compulsory the existence of a higher god... striktlymi: Ask yourself this: can these billion brain cells achieve consciousness without Energy?nope, there can be nothing without energy. striktlymi: I will do that as soon as you give me 'proof' that Energy is not conscious.because not everything powered by energy is conscious, that is your proof.... striktlymi: Not quite!and this conscious agent can just pop into existence without another conscious creator right? and that without even a greater conscious creator? and that goes on forever! |
striktlymi: That was not meant to be an excuse but the truth.you didnt make sense here, death will become the absence of god, so according to your logic, there is evil because god is absent...cool ![]() |
OLAADEGBU: What is the probability that you're gonna die someday? The crux of my story is that if you have to jump out of a plane that has developed engines failure 30,000 ft in the air and you jump without putting on a parachute, your chance of surviving is between slim and none, and slim as long gone out of town. It is even harsher if you jump through the gates of death (which is inevitable) and you jump without putting on Jesus Christ, would lead to the second death, which is harsher than the first death.if i were to jump off a plane, you can be certain i ll have a parachute on but when it comes to accepting a dead white guy as my lord and savior, i aint in on that thats just too irrational ![]() |
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