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Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 6:27pm On Oct 11, 2013
macof: The ultimate form of Energy is God and it's conscious
but how did he become conscious? or is consciousness an irreducible unit?
Christianity EtcRe: Great Verses From The Bible, ... That Christians Are Ashamed Of. by ooman(m): 6:26pm On Oct 11, 2013
Image123: You don't have to elucidate on your frustrations on a social forum.

Hebrews 6:19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;
you just go to Jerusalem without a visa, and lets see if you wont be in the next available plane as the macof already told you

ode...
Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 6:24pm On Oct 11, 2013
obadiah777: he is a force. an energy. a spirit
and how did he become conscious?
Christianity EtcRe: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 6:23pm On Oct 11, 2013
tobechi74: Theism is not a whiteman concept.our forefathers are theist.

Atheism is not a white man concept

but christianity is a theist religion introduced from whitemen

most nigerians at best are doubters.they fully become atheist after being directly or indrectly involved with foreigne atheist...
christianity, not theism.... is what we re talking about....
Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 6:18pm On Oct 11, 2013
obadiah777: God is an energy. a force, if you will
and how did he become conscious?
Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 6:17pm On Oct 11, 2013
obadiah777: God came first.
from what?
Christianity EtcRe: Please I Need Some Help In Some Religion/psychology Research (lolz) by ooman(m): 6:12pm On Oct 11, 2013
FOLYKAZE: Why do you think women are most numbered in miracle centers and churches?

Fear hold women easily.

Obadiah propagate fear from ww3 to nuke....even if his prophesy failed.

Where gullible minds are, fear monger rule
shocked shocked
Christianity EtcRe: Questions That Bug Believers In God by ooman(op): 6:10pm On Oct 11, 2013
joel lala: Experimentation done by the White man right?? wink ..I hear you.
there are laboratories in Nigeria right?
Christianity EtcRe: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 6:08pm On Oct 11, 2013
joel lala: As long as you believe you evolved from apes, you are and will continue to be a white man's slave..

As long as you continue to use the white man's theory or concept to counter religious beliefs or theories, you will also be ensnared by your white masters..if you dont want to be enslaved by the white man, then look for and use our very own african theories to prove christianity/islam as false...
oh, there are some...

Ori lababo, aba forisha sile .... meaning, we should have looked into our selfs rather than worship gods....

and i seem to remember a Yoruba story that says that monkey tried to become human by eating some concoctions prescribed by a herbalist, but ate too much so it remained between human and animal

and lot more of Yoruba folklore about change in organisms and weak atheism but here is not the place for reiterating myths.... tongue
Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 6:04pm On Oct 11, 2013
obadiah777: God and his creation you mean ? smdh
god or his creation
Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 6:03pm On Oct 11, 2013
macof: can u answer- who created Energy?
energy cannot be created or destroyed.... and its not conscious, so it doesnt need a creator....
Christianity EtcRe: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 6:02pm On Oct 11, 2013
Logicboy03: lol.....fail.


Evolution is science. Science works whether you believe in it or not. It doesnt matter if it was a white man called Darwin who found evolution or a white man Newton that found the universal laws of gravitation or a Japanese man that found the pricinples of robotics- what matters in science is what works or what is fact.

Science doesnt ask you to believe. It is there for you to test or investigate or use via the scientific method. There is no master or slave in science- only hpothesis, tests, research, theories and laws.


Religion on the other hand, asks you to submit. Submit your brain to the particular religion or to the God of the religion. Your christian religion in particular tells you to submit to a Jewish God. Your brain is useless- the bible is there to think for you. This is why you believe in wizards and witches. Religion is mental slavery. Guess what? Your ancestors were enslaved by that religion both physically and mentally. Go and watch Django then look at the scene that they were flogging a female slave- the slave master doing the flogging was quoting the bible.

F4ck you and your f4cking slave religion cool
still another perfect....keep up the good work of logic... wink
Christianity EtcRe: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 6:00pm On Oct 11, 2013
Logicboy03: lol.....atheism has nothing to do with evolution. Atheism is not science.

If accepting evolution as science = having a white master
then, using windows/apple = having a white master.



You dont evne understand why you christians have a white master. The reason is that your Jesus is painted white in your Nigerian churches due to the fact that it was white colonizers and slave masters that brought the religion to Nigeria.

How you can project this to atheism is just bewildering
another perfect reply....no need for reiteration....
Christianity EtcRe: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 5:58pm On Oct 11, 2013
Logicboy03: @ Joel Lala


1) Evolution has nothing to do with atheism. One can believe in evolution and be a christian or even a muslim...doesnt matter

2) The Piraha people believe in only what they see.....it doesnt matter if they call jaguars "spirits"...their definition of spirit is different from yours. FAIL
perfect reply...
Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 1:40pm On Oct 11, 2013
[quote author=Ijele-igbo]Point of correction! This world is created by God and not god!
Secondly, god or gods are created by man! They can be made of gold, timber, wood, iron etc.... These gods are man-made that cannot see, talk or hear!!
God created Lucifer who was an Angel and later became the Devil!!!
God is the beginning and the last..... He is the creator of the Heaven and earth, seas, animals and plants.......

God is the greatest!!!
Glory unto his name forever and ever!!![/quote]ode
Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 1:39pm On Oct 11, 2013
obadiah777: point here is if the egg and chicken can exist without knowing which came first, there is a God and creation. which came first or who created the first ? i dont know, but the analogy of the chicken and egg tells you that its a reality
so which came first, god or his creator?
Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 12:57pm On Oct 11, 2013
obadiah777: righttttt ? lol
that's because i know you are still going a long way down, so i got down straight
Christianity EtcRe: Questions That Bug Believers In God by ooman(op): 12:51pm On Oct 11, 2013
joel lala: Bros, you make your own researches based on the articles the same white masters have written down..that is why you cant explain the creation of life because they made it compulsory for you not too..
oh if its hypothesis that you want about the evolution of life, there is so much of that, but unlike you, i just dont believe everything without proper experimentation...
Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 12:47pm On Oct 11, 2013
obadiah777: Indeed and who created the egg undecided huh
and who created he who created the egg?
Christianity EtcRe: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 12:40pm On Oct 11, 2013
Atheism & Skepticism in Africa

As Durant explains, certain Pygmy tribes found in Africa were observed to have no identifiable cults or rites. There were no totems, no gods, no spirits. Their dead were buried without special ceremonies or accompanying items and received no further attention. They even appeared to lack simple superstitions, according to travelers' reports.

Full story here:

http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismhistory/a/PrimitiveAtheismSkepticism.htm
Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 12:27pm On Oct 11, 2013
obadiah777: who came first, the egg or the chicken ? who created the chicken ? and if the egg came first, who created the egg ?
question to answer a question

anyway, the egg came first, evolutionary modification in the eggs brought about chicken, just as evolutionary changes in foxes brought about dogs
Christianity EtcRe: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 12:24pm On Oct 11, 2013
How an Amazonian tribe turned a missionary into an atheist:

This missionary, who went to the Piraha people is now an atheist, his story:

Daniel Everett, 57, a linguist in the Departmental Chair of Languages, Literatures and Cultures at Illinois State University, told presenter John McCarthy on the Excess Baggage programme, that he had travelled to the Amazon in the 70s to bring the tribe “the joy of faith” only to discover that they were a deeply contented people. In fact they seemed far better contented than he was.

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According to Wikipedia, Everett “was having serious doubts by 1982, and had lost all faith by 1985 after having spent a year at MIT. He would not tell anyone about his atheism for another 19 years; when he finally did, his marriage ended in divorce and two of his three children broke off all contact.”

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his full story here :

http://freethinker.co.uk/2008/11/08/how-an-amazonian-tribe-turned-a-missionary-into-an-atheist/
Christianity EtcRe: "Atheistic Belief Is Also From The White Master" by ooman(m): 12:17pm On Oct 11, 2013
Natural tribes without a god concept

[quote author= The Piraha People]Daniel Everett studied this primitive tribe, the Piraha people and according to Everett, the Pirahã have no concept of a supreme spirit or god, and they lost interest in Jesus when they discovered that Everett had never seen him. They require evidence based on personal experience for every claim made.[/quote]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_people

For reason sake, this are primitive people who aren't even educated nor know anything about evolution...

When will Africans begin to see?
Christianity EtcRe: If You Say There Is No God, You Are A Fool by ooman(m): 11:59am On Oct 11, 2013
if this world was created by god, who created god.
Christianity EtcRe: Ancient Confession Found: 'we Invented Jesus Christ' by ooman(m): 11:55am On Oct 11, 2013
ROSSIKE: Actually, they've been made to ''believe'' the dead white man woke up on the third day and ascended ''into heaven'', with ''heaven'' of course being ''somewhere up in the sky''. It's really laughable. Grown men actually believe this. cool
its just unbelievable
Christianity EtcRe: How To Become An Atheist by ooman(m): 11:44am On Oct 11, 2013
OLAADEGBU: You can't contradict yourself. If you know that it will be foolhardy to jump off a plane without a parachute, what makes you think it will be logical to jump through the gates of death without putting on Jesus Christ? Our Lord Jesus Christ is risen from the dead, He's risen and is alive to break your free fall into the abyss.
i already believe the Flying Pig is alive around me, and i have already put on the Flying Pig, i have no room for your dead man...
Christianity EtcRe: Debaptismal Certificate, Download For FREE! !! !!! !!!! !!!!! by ooman(op): 11:33am On Oct 11, 2013
cyrexx: Nice, but where is the download link?
just right click on the picture and click 'save image as'....
Christianity EtcRe: Questions That Bug Believers In God by ooman(op): 11:27am On Oct 11, 2013
joel lala: You do worship them thats why you believe everything the white atheist man says
oh pls, i dont believe everything the white man says, i make my own researches, this is why i could free myself from childhood religious ideas in the first place...

you on the contrary believe what they say, this is why you cant question the god they made compulsory for you....
Christianity EtcRe: Questions That Bug Believers In God by ooman(op): 11:22am On Oct 11, 2013
striktlymi: Brain defect is your proof that souls do not exist?
brain defects are enough to make me understand that there is no spirit bringing about consciousness, because brain defects immediately affects consciousness, except you wanna tell me it doesnt...
Christianity EtcRe: Questions That Bug Believers In God by ooman(op): 11:19am On Oct 11, 2013
striktlymi: Did Energy come from a created place?

If Energy cannot come from something created then you have your answer.
guy, once again, you are confused... You claim energy is conscious, i said its not. I debate for an unconscious energy, you debate for a conscious energy, which is uncreated, yet you claim every other thing must be created, this is where there is conflict. If this conscious energy of yours does not need a creator, then the universe, less complex than this conscious, complex, personal god of yours, does not need a creator too, it an come into existence by natural processes, because its not conscious. Consciousness does not just pop into existence, it requires maximum complexity, selection and arrangement as brought about by evolution.

So dont use the definition of energy to define your god, until you can prove energy is conscious, has a personality and a brain.


striktlymi: First of, I didn't say consciousness is exclusive to the brain.
you directly implied that..


striktlymi: Secondly, your questions are 'straws' because they have nothing to do with whether consciousness is from Energy or not.
oh common, dont change your words...what you claimed was that the brain has consciousness because its powered by a conscious energy. This immediately suggests that consciousness is exclusive to the brain, so answer the questions... sad



striktlymi: Because you say so?
because you havent provided any!!




striktlymi: Hmmm...

No one said what was created can't be turned.

No one said God's work cannot be corrupted.
then your gods works arent perfect or incorruptible.....its good you are beginning to see the weakness in your god.




striktlymi: See above for proof. You make comments that are unrelated to my posts.
shocked shocked shocked



striktlymi: But you are prepared to take it by faith that Energy is not conscious?
not by faith, but by observation. Cars does not immediately become conscious when they become filled by energy. Or do they?

striktlymi: Anyways, no one is asking you to take it by faith.

There is no way consciousness can come about without a conscious agent.
am not arguing this for now, what am asking is: how then did the first conscious agent come to be?

you do realise that the bolded suggest a god for your god, then a god for the god of your god and a god for the god of the god of the god of your god and that goes on ad infinitum....... This is why there cant be gods, because the existence of one immediately makes compulsory the existence of a higher god...

striktlymi: Ask yourself this: can these billion brain cells achieve consciousness without Energy?
nope, there can be nothing without energy.



striktlymi: I will do that as soon as you give me 'proof' that Energy is not conscious.
because not everything powered by energy is conscious, that is your proof....



striktlymi: Not quite!

A conscious agent with the ability to create can determine what it wants to give consciousness to or not.
and this conscious agent can just pop into existence without another conscious creator right? and that without even a greater conscious creator? and that goes on forever!
Christianity EtcRe: Questions That Bug Believers In God by ooman(op): 6:17pm On Oct 10, 2013
striktlymi: That was not meant to be an excuse but the truth.

If God is only good then there should be no evil? Are you sure it works that way?

Similar to saying that if God is life then there should be no death. It does not follow.

What exactly do you call evil? And who or what determines what is evil?
you didnt make sense here, death will become the absence of god, so according to your logic, there is evil because god is absent...cool cool
Christianity EtcRe: How To Become An Atheist by ooman(m): 6:13pm On Oct 10, 2013
OLAADEGBU: What is the probability that you're gonna die someday? The crux of my story is that if you have to jump out of a plane that has developed engines failure 30,000 ft in the air and you jump without putting on a parachute, your chance of surviving is between slim and none, and slim as long gone out of town. It is even harsher if you jump through the gates of death (which is inevitable) and you jump without putting on Jesus Christ, would lead to the second death, which is harsher than the first death.
if i were to jump off a plane, you can be certain i ll have a parachute on

but when it comes to accepting a dead white guy as my lord and savior, i aint in on that tongue thats just too irrational sad

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