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why will God not bless this great man....!
His obvious generosity towards mankind excites God so much!
This is the kind of purpose driven life God requires from us esp believers!

uunwanaobong3:
Any and every competition that has finished and have been won would Not be cancelled.......... The competition that will be affected are those that has not yet finished.

Okay...lets not preempt anything!
Let's wait for April!

pmoye:
Now, I finally believe that inverted reasoning truly exists.

You fail to provide good health care and medicines, and you believe that to improve the health system of the people all you need to do is to ban their use of herbs which people have had to resort?

I think some people need a brochure for using their brain. Something like "Thinking made easy", "Key points to using the brain", and "Applying the brain for dummies".

I keep getting shocked that human evolution has refused to move humanity beyond inverted reasoning, blaming the victim of a failed system for the ineptitude of their elected officers.

bankylan:
This is gross misinformation! You have no clue about power sector and the reality on ground in Nigeria. How much do you spend on generators annually from different countries to allude that some nations use your money to develop themselves?

You made mention of solar energy as if it is what industrialized nation and developing nations use to spur development. Germany as at today still use coal in power generation, so also US, China and Canada. Do you want to power industries with solar energy?

Google all the developed and developing worlds to look at their energy mix. We don't have the resources for cheaper power generation, you are talking of solar energy as a nation trying to develop industrially when US is pulling out of Paris climate change agreement. Please what are the cheaper sources of energy that Nigerians are producing? I will like to know one bros.

As I type this, I just finished a meeting with a top person at Ikeja electric on some power issues in Nigeria. I have an experience in the industry not as a power system engineer though, but with what I know, anyone that is talking about ban on generator now is either insane or plain stupid.

We have a generating capacity that is under utilized that we are even selling electricity to neighbouring countries just because the TCN owned by the FG 100% has a mere 5000 MW wheeling capacity out of about 13,000 MW we can potentially produce.

Please let me know if you are willing to learn so that I can break this down to you as even those in NERC and ministry of power are technically deficient to know the issue with electricity in Nigeria.

Thanks jare!

Romanoff:
Of course they will add to the grid.

Adding to the grid rather than affecting the state individually is not ideal!
I hope you know that our problem is not gencos(generating sector) but the trancos(transmission sector)
So far our gencos can generate more than 13 000 mW but our trancos is only limited to 5 000 mW which is not enough for a country like Nigeria!

So which company will want to generate power and cannot transmit due to the limitations of our transmission lines?

This is why unbundling of the power sector will ensure that these power companies go to the states rather than go through the national grid!

Swinger60:
you are making a point in your way, but, there some things that faze away by itself without even govt banning it. For eg, if our electricity sector becomes stable, no one will have to buy generator and importing of generators will faze out.

Let our government provide us with stable electricity before they think of banning generator.

Our leaders usually wake up one morning and decide to ban one thing or the other, without providing an alternative first.

They don't even need a ban.....they will die a natural death once people have at least 22-23 hours of power supply!
Who no like better thing?

Romanoff:
Not all forms of renewable energy are expensive. If Renewable energy companies generate energy, they can sell to Nigerians like discos.

No power company can do so without being added to the national grid!
Its there in our constitution!

Instead of this crazy and mindless bill,the senator and the senate should be pushing for the unbundling of the power sector!
In other words,Every state should develop their own power!

Once this is done,this same power companies will individually meet the government of each state and do the needful like you said!

But until that happens,no sensible company will invest their hard earned funds on a failing and uncoordinated institution like the power sector controlled by a politically inclined FG!

uunwanaobong3:
The only tropy won this season will be the caraboa cup, Because the competition was finished and the winner announced when mancity lifted the trophy

Hahahahaha... Look at you
So the world club cup was not won this season abi?
Smh...we know where you are coming from

uunwanaobong3:
Guy, this is not about targeting Liverpool, IT IS Not AN ENGLAND PROBLEM ALONE, it is a European problem and it affects every competition in Europe, which means champion league will be affected this season, italian league the same, all the leagues and country affected including champion league will be cancelled and start afresh next season IF the solution is not found by April.

Ok

jaxxy:
There is no sabotaging going on now so fix it if u can and the gens will automatically reduce in sales. There is no need for any ban. Generator will only be for emergency back up.

Make una no waste una time for that lady!
She even uses a generator at home,I guess her office uses a generator.... The church she attends also makes use of a generator!

fombadi:
The generator bill is actually a very good one. Nigerians may not understand, but untill something of that major is done there'll not be electricity in Nigeria. Thats the only way it will become urgent to the government, infact the power will stabilize in a year. All of you want stable electricity when someone comes of with a way forward you stand against it.

And the Nigerian economy that is barely surviving will totally collapse simply because you want to 'throw the baby out the the bath water'?
Thanks bro....you are really an economic expert!

uunwanaobong3:
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If by April the virus is still present, believe me the entire league and season will be cancelled, starting from when the league was suspended, which means according to UEFA and FIFA protocol, the season does not exist starting from when it was suspended which means that there is no winner or loser.... This means all the teams that was available last season will still be available this season according to their standing last season, the relegation, promotion, champion league, eufa league position all remain the same. Which leaves us with the same teams that play this season to play next season all starting from afresh 0 point......leaving only mancity as a winner of Carling cup because their position as winner was already confirmed when they lifted the trophy.

It has happened before in 1939.... And according to FIFA rules, the old season cannot interfere with the new season.

And Liverpool cannot win the league because they were no confirmed champion...(even if na one game remain to win with 10 matches to play they would it if it is cancelled because from FIFA point of view, it is even be possible that they might as well lost the whole ten fixtures.... It is extremely harsh to Liverpool but that is the reality...... The trophy can not just be handed over until that particular competition is complete)

Sorry guy!
Your obviously hate-filled conspiracy theory won't fly a broom let alone a kite!
Unless you are WHO or UEFA or EPL spokesman,please keep your opinions to your self!
And besides,if EPL is scrapped,UEFA will also be scrapped.... That also makes your trolling of liverpool's loss and atletico's triumph a null and void situation!
Oga park well joor

Romanoff:
Let us all be in that lightlessness. It will make our government wake up.

And you think they care about your sufferings?
Think again!
Do you know how many communities and LGA in nigeria that have been without power for years?
Has that made the government to sit up as you said?
You said you have done your research on power...please extend it to LGAs that have not seen power supply for over 3 years...even their own state government uses generators at their residence!
Are you aware that generator purchase for the presidency was part of the 2020 national budget?
And you want this same government to sit up?
Una never chichumchin!

kristo123:
We still flare gas in our oil industry.
We still use internal combustion engines in our vehicles.
We still experience oil spillage in the Niger Delta.
We still dump our waste in landfills and water ways.

The power sector is in a bad state as a result of poor management and corruption.

Passing a Generator ban bill will not solve air pollution but will wreck the economy.

Thank you sir...some fellas need this kind of education!

Romanoff:
I support the bill, I just feel they should project the advantages and then so research how renewable energy companies can invest in the power sector. Or even a public private partnership on renewable energy.

How many Nigerians can afford renewable energy like solar system?
Even a load of 10kva will gulp at least 4million naira considering the need to purchase a huge amount of batteries and solar panels to last for at least 21-23 hours in a day!
Which small and medium scale enterprise has got that kind of funds to spend on power?

Romanoff:
I believe the reason our power is crap is cause we have an alternative. A back up.

Plus it will reduce the air pollution.

So if we scrap the purchase of generators and also ban its use because of air pollution,what will be your own alternative for individuals who have not seen public power for months or years?

slimfit1:
I don't have generator at home I've not seen one for 3years I don't need it but I send solar panels home.

Good!
That's your own power system!

I am quite sure it must have cost you some huge funds to have a number of solar panels,a huge amount of inverter batteries and an inverter that takes care of your house load!

However,not every Nigerian can afford to get such huge investment for power supply!

The same senator that is dangling this bill has at least two generating set that he uses when he gets home or to his village!

Let the government provide power to everyone 4 for at least 21hours and watch the purchase for generators reduce!

Where there is DEMAND for electricity, there will be SUPPLY of generators or other alternatives like solar system!
Its that simple!

iammo:
Yeah Yeah suspension but if it takes My Arsenal Coach and our Chelsea brothers over six months to recover from this coronavirus its only fair we cancel this season

Hilarious excuse!
Are all the Chelsea players infected?
Is arteta the only one in their coaching crew?

6 months?
Are u sure you have been following the corona virus news lately?

slimfit1:
Generator bill is the only sensible one there. To develop we need to take drastic action taken otherwise 10years from now we will be having the same problem.

Can I ask you some questions?
Do you presently have a generator at home?
Do you know that that minister has a generator in his present residence?
If there is availability in power supply who will purchase generators?
Are you are aware that where there is demand,there will also be supply?

mansakhalifa:
Some countries must be made to pay for this nonsense...

That is exactly how I feel.

Now, just what am I gonna be watching on Saturdays At least until then?

See how my weekend has suddenly become colourless because of some people's insatiable cravings for seafood delicacies...

Nonsense.

If you had a ps4 console and a pes 2019 or 2020,you won't worry that much!

Upworkwriter007:
Lol, but what happens to next years league. they have to conclude this one, even if it means that they'll continue by august.

The thread reads suspension till April...enough time for the corona spread to be controlled!

iammo:
chaii .. Liverpools fear finally confirmed

Read Oga!
Its suspension and not cancellation!
Learn to know d difference!
Na wa una ohhh

uunwanaobong3:
EPL is suspended until April ...... Breaking new

Liverpool right now

On the contrary,its actually going to help Liverpool players to get revitalized and also welcome their number one goalie Alison!
Even if the entire leagues or competition is scrapped,it simply.means the Liverpool are still defending champions and atletico triumph at anfield was for nothing!
Next time ensure that your emotions are not doing the talking!
Common sense is indeed not common!

Sirmuel1:
Why can't they cancel everything, let the league start all over ?


Stupid Liverpool.

See this pained hater!
U wan reap where you no sow

FirstbornWds:
Calm for where. Go and Rest your case on your league matches

Yes we will
#YNWA#

SweetCunt97:
No he's doing well... With the absence of generator we'll lean towards other source of power. Solar with thrive. And we know those importers are the ones sabotaging our nepa so that their business will move.


If we can have light 24/7 like Ghana, no one would need Generator. So why can't we push for steady light in this Country for heaven sakes?

where there is demand,there is supply!
Do you buy what you dont need?
Ghana having 24/7 power did not start today......many before then were using generators until the power supply became constant!
Once that happened,they found no need to purchase generator sets!
Its that simple!

Romanoff:
As much as I want to agree with FFK and those shouting the man down, I have chosen to see his reason.

This climate change affecting the world, what steps have Nigerian taken to curtail its effect?

All we do is go for UN summits on SDGs and Climate change but how are we contributing to the goal?

Our air pollution is on the increase, we litter the environment and drainage ways with nylons and dirt, we don't have a strong recycling culture, many of us, especially on rural areas still use coal and firewood to Cook.

It really starts with one policy.

If the ban works, we can look up to alternative means of electricity, there's solar, turbines, biogas, etc.

The heat in Abuja this year, I've never seen the kind and it will get worse.

....and who will provide you with those alternatives?
na wa for una ohh

The funny part is that this same senator has a 150KVA generator plant in his own house!

justtee42k:
what if the ppl selling the generators are the ones disrupting light in nigeria...once there is no sales of generator , we all will sit back to make electricity stay ... may God bless nigeria

....and finally kill the businesses that are trying to generate IGR for the likes of lagos or portharcourt?
Why not make the power available first before thinking of banning generators?
are the generator manufacturers or sellers the reason why our power transmission is limited to 5000MW?

bankylan:
Ignorance is a big disease as shown by this rubbish you typed. It is very senseless to say generator importers are the cabal working against power sector. You have no understanding of the sector like the people this useless government put in place.
Let me educate you...I am an electricity market professional with focus on Energy risk.
We have no much problem with generation as we have installed capacity of about 13,000 MW out of which we even supply neighbouring countries because your govt owned TCN can only transmit about 5,000 MW. The first issue to be tackled is the issue of gas pricing and efficient project management planing so that our thermal plants which constitute 80% of our energy source as against 20% for hydro can be guaranteed constant supply of Gas.
What has TCN done to increase transmission capacity beyond 5000MW? What does this have to do with Mikano? Besides, we operate a centralised grid that sends all generated power to the national pool before it is sent to where it is needed thus creating inefficiencies and loss. What does a generator importer have to do with this?

All the Discos lack the technical and financial capacity to distribute as they can only distribute a mere 3500MW of the transmitted energy. The average ATC&C loss for the Discos is 40%, how can they perform optimally? Out of the meagre distributed 3500 MW, they don't recieve payment for up to 1000 MW due to energy theft, unwillingness to pay, and debts by ministries, departments and agencies- MDAs. In other words, government is the number debtor and contributor to the liquidity crisis in the industry.
To top it all is the ignorance like the one you displayed here of the people running our power sector. How can NERC put a CAPEX limit of 5b on all the Discos and you expect them to increase network capacity? A SCADA system alone costs like 5b naira. There are other technical areas I can't talk about here.

But bros, if anyone has told you that generator importers are killing the power industry, tell such person to please shut up. We live in a world of knowledge and information and the earlier we get informed, the quicker we solve our power problem.

You are absolutely right in your submissions!

madridguy:
FFK is a certified mad dog no be today.

A reasonable Nigerian will understand the fact that the more generator companies we have in Nigeria the more our power sector will remain jagajaga. Marapco, Jabaili brothers, Mikano to mention few were brought into the country by the cabal killing our power sector.

FYI, Once you dey area with steady power supply, immediately one filling station enter the area, forget the rest na suffer because they will bribe NEPA official to stop giving you steady light for dem to dey sell.

I stand with the senator.

i dont understand how you lots think....are you in naija or are you speaking from another country?
even a new born baby knows that there is no constant power supply in naija
right now there is zero power in some areas...infact there is an LGA that has had no power for 4 to 5 years!
Many businesses solely depend on power for their business to stay afloat!
Provide power supply and generator purchase will totally reduce!
Why am i even trying to reason with an apc apologist?
smh

Mymynd4u:
She made this promise yesterday and I want us to protest that she should keep to her promise.

Maynation pls deactivate your nairaland account now.... Be a woman of your word

You have been stripped of YNWA

You now carry YDWA - YOU DON WAKA ALONE

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Liverpool fans shud follow the same step

others fans that have said they will delete their account if liverpool failed to lift the UCL last season,have you made a protest about them?
@Maynation stays...if you dont like it,goan kiss a live transformer!