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achorladey:




This means you want oteneaaron


Intelligence enter water moral standard will follow suit.

Any means to save your face

Hehehehehe

I am literally laughing!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you don't believe Jesus exist so let's spit Into each other's face!

Lol.

How does that correlate?

How does that change the fact that -

1. You can't even admit to a mistake you made, and

2. You hurl insults at a whim to people who call out your BS?

MaxInDHouse:
The casualty report really got everyone angry because it's not only Yorùbá's that are humans and as for your stupid interruption.
Neither you nor myself can say those people are Americans or Ukrainians.
Don't be deceived by their uniforms because during wars soldiers can put on any uniform to confuse their opponents.
The report says they are Ukrainians but that's not my concern rather it's human lives that matters to me!

Lol.

So much for being a "True Christian"

Can't admit he made a mistake, and can't stop hurling insults.

WOW

MaxInDHouse:
Guy spanking is for kids so i said that because our friend brought in something that really sound like it's coming from a kid!

LOL

So now he's sounding like a kid?

All because he called out the error in your post?

Admit you made a mistake and move on.

Take your own advice and HUMBLE YOURSELF.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy, this is not the field where we are working to verify the nationality of those in the pictures so try to use your brains. We are talking about lives here not nationality.
In fact the picture is from Facebook i'm not the one who took it so i'm less concerned about the nationality of those in the picture. What matters to me is how sane humans like myself are still going around carrying weapons to kill or get killed at this age of human development? Are we going forward with our brains or backward?


Check the below statistics!

What is WAR?
Bombs that cost $ 100,000 Dropping from a plane that costs $ 100,000,000 flying at a cost of $ 40,000 per hour to kill people living with less than $1 a day.

Now answer me:
Do you think sane people should be involved in the above?
Please for what reason?

That's why i get so upset when you're talking about the nationality of those involved, please it's not about their nationality but what they're carrying in their brains!

Lol.

Why don't you admit you made a mistake and move on?

You can't always be right you know?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy it's much more than enough, in fact he should be spanked for saying such stupid stuff.

I remembered back then when some guys died and the one reporting said only six persons died then another came arguing with him that it was two. It turned out to an argument until the stupid fellow later said it was two Yorùbas and four other tribes!

Please what exactly does he meant by they're Americans not Ukrainians?
Are they not humans like you and i?

If you don't value life all because of your hatred for truth we do and you're going to get the worst from me if anyone spew nonsense when it involves lives!

Lol.

He should be spanked?

Good thing we aren't in the dark ages, or else if you were in a position of power back then, many of us would have been burned to death on a stake because of how upset you are.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm upset because humans like me, husbands, wives and youths are going to die all because some self-centered politicians wants to prove a point that's of no practical benefits!

It is still not enough reason to hurl insults at him.

MaxInDHouse:
You people are insane if you can't tell yourselves the truth!

Vladimir Putin banned JWs in his country few years ago joining counties like China and North Korea. These three are the ones behind the ongoing killings in Ukraine and what is the offense of Jehovah's Witnesses?
Simple: they are erasing politics, racism and wars from the hearts of whoever listens to them and their major instrument is the WORDS of Jesus of Nazareth.

So if you don't see how insane you are then i believe nothing can cute your madness!

But it is you who is throwing tantrums and hurling insults at other people like an insane person.

MaxInDHouse:
Chai see insanity at it's peak!
Whether they're Ukrainians, Russians, Americans or Nigerians the point of emphasis here is that they're going to kill or get killed due to the orders from those who sit down in their homes with their wives and children!

So who is fooling who?

Jehovah's Witnesses say "let's used Jesus' teachings to resolve all disputes" some useless miscreants are saying Jesus didn't exist yet the Jehovah's Witnesses have used Jesus' teachings to erase politics and military services from the hearts of millions across the globe!

Can you speak without hurling insults at other people?

Is this what being a "true Christian" means?

MaxInDHouse:
If truly you know you've not been HUMILIATED then leave that and answer my question:

Is this about Jesus of Nazareth or MaxInDHouse?

That is where your answer lies!
Because if it's about Jesus of Nazareth then it means you've not been HUMILIATED after all you never see Jesus follow you talk so whether he exist or not still remains unresolved.
But if it's about MaxInDHouse then you've been thoroughly HUMILIATED because with all your so called research i haven't found anything worth considering enough to debunk the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth!

Lol.

Why are you speaking with two sides of your mouth?

If Jesus truly existed, why is there NO archeological evidence to prove this?

If Jesus truly existed, why are the "eye witness" accounts contradicting each other?

If Jesus truly existed, why would you call the account of Mark an "eye witness" account when he isn't even one of his disciples?

Or is Mark one of the disciples of Jesus?

If Jesus truly existed, why was the story of his birth, life and teachings already existing in Egypt at least 2000 years before his proposed birth?

We are now back to where we started.

achorladey:
Oga oteneaaron even the humiliation na empty boast.

He has to save his face though

Lol.

Chale.

I am just trying to understand how he humiliated me oo.

Is that too much to ask?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni abeg go and satisfy your curiosity elsewhere, if you don't believe Jesus is real no wahala me i believe.
At least if we're all Jehovah's Witnesses (Jesus' true disciples today) the below picture won't come to mind! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Jesus said to Jehovah's Witnesses:

“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52

For your information killers are out there banning JWs in their country not because this group is causing any havoc but because they're making everyone to embrace PEACE!

This still does not explain how you HUMILIATED me.

MaxInDHouse:
It's TIRI much o!

I asked you a simple question and until now you refused to answer me and you're talking as if wahala no dey the matter!

Answer my question if you want me to believe you've not been offended:

Is this thread about Jesus of Nazareth or MaxInDHouse?

I want a straightforward answer then i will continue chatting with you normally but if you will not answer then wahala don dey Okpoko be that, make i run commot!

Why do you believe I am offended?

Why should I be offended in the first place?

You clearly said you HUMILIATED me.

That is a very strong statement, and I am asking to explain how you HUMILIATED me.

This thread from very beginning was to answer the question of whether Jesus was a real figure from history who existed, and not just a myth.

To make our debate straight forward, we had these points to cover -

The best you can you do is show me proof from your extensive research that shows that -

1. Jesus really existed and is not a Mythical Figure,

2. Jesus really existed based on archeological findings, and

3. The life and teachings of Jesus is original and not copied from HORUS of ancient Egypt and many other Christ figures like Dionysus, Bacchus, Mythiras but to mention a few.

Yesterday, you and I laid bare a summary of our points.

So what exactly is the bone of contention right now?

Or is asking you to explain how I was HUMILIATED by you too much to ask?

MaxInDHouse:
I said i tender an APOLOGY for all the wahala i made you go through!
If Jesus is not real to you that's your own conclusion after reading the gospels mine may differ nah!

Why are you apologizing?

You never offended me.

I am asking you explain how you "humiliated" me.

Is that too much to ask?

MaxInDHouse:
Please forget about the whole thing!
If it's about Jesus of Nazareth choose whatever you want to believe, it's not a compulsion that you and i agree on terms and conditions of historicity.
If i choose to believe what i read in the Bible but you choose to disbelieve that shouldn't make us enemies.
Remember this is about Jesus of Nazareth not MaxInDHouse.
Abeg Ìdọ̀bálẹ̀ mi rèé o!

Very well.

If you don't mind, I am still waiting for an explanation of how you "humiliated" me.

These were your exact words:

MaxInDHouse:
He doesn't know what a challenge really means!

He first made this move but i ignored him since i noticed he doesn't believe in God, i knew it's going to be a time wasting.

But since he raised the issue here again and his so called friends are scared to stand up for their faith i decided to humiliate him along with his friends by demanding we do so on a fresh thread.

Today he could see for himself that it's all about things he believes against what i believe and not a research at all because he's just telling stories of what he chose to believe against the Bible nothing more!

cornelboy:
I have asked him more than 5 times but he's hiding face



It's your friend Achorladey that can't speak for himself.
He believes in Christ and even defended the Trinity doctrine.

I don't think you know him.
He's on your side because Max is a JW.

There is only one way to put it -

Archoladey sees MaxInDHouse for who he really is.

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You mentioned on the other thread that you are not yet a baptized witness.

If you will at least listen to my advice, please take some time to do a very critical and honest research into the true history of the organization.

At least before you take the final step of becoming baptized.

I am even happy that you're an adult that has unrestricted access to the internet - not like the many children in their early teens who got baptized without understanding the true history of the organization they dedicated their lives to.

There is no harm in doing this, at least you can prove to yourself that you are actually making the right decision.

Cos once you emerge out of that water and dedicate your life to the JW organization, there is no going back.

And even if you insist you don't want to be a part of them anymore, you will automatically become an enemy to MaxInDHouse.

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This is just a friendly advice.

You can take it or leave it.

The choice is most definitely yours.

MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi it's like oteneaaron no care whether Jesus is real or not na me gangan be hin problem o!

Lol.

I don't even understand Yoruba to begin with.

This back and forth has become very mentally draining.

I asked for archeological proof of Jesus existence, and I got nothing from you.

I asked for eye witness accounts and you mentioned the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke and John.

But when we analyzed your "eye witness" proof, we found a lot discrepancies -

1. If these were "eye witness" accounts why do they contradict each other? It is almost as if each writer was referring to a different Jesus.

And this was your answer:

MaxInDHouse:
They were all eye Witnesses but the event each person saw differs from what they heard from others who saw things Jesus did in the the presence of the writers.

Till now, I find it very hard to wrap my head around the above reply to explain the contradictions we see in the Gospels.

2. It is a FACT that the first Gospel ever written was the Gospel of Mark.

But was Mark an actual disciple of Jesus to begin with?

The answer is NO.

So how can a man who was not even a disciple of Jesus to begin with, be an eye witness?

3. The other Gospels of Mathew, Luke and John have been proven to be plagiarized copies of Mark's Gospel and it is also a FACT that they were written AFTER Mark.

So how can we depend on the "eye witness" accounts of Mathew, Luke and John which we know were copied from another "eye witness" account of Mark, who we have already identified to not even be a disciple of Jesus in the first place?

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Why so many contradictions and discrepancies?

If Jesus was a real figure in history, finding actual archeological evidence should never be an issue.

And eye witness accounts shouldn't have to contradict each other.

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I can't keep repeating myself over and over again.

I gave you an easy to follow summary of my points yesterday.

Why don't you pick each one and debunk?

Wouldn't that be easier than this merry go round you are currently on?

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MaxInDHouse:
I love it anytime you use the highlighted word!

So can you HONESTLY tell your friend Acholardey that this is not about MaxInDHouse but Jesus of Nazareth?

Mr Max, why are you throwing tantrums all around this thread?

What else do you want from me?

Or didn't you see the summary I outlined yesterday?

Or do you want me to give you a translation in Hebrew or Greek?

cornelboy:
Oteneaaron ask Achorladey to tell us who he supports:
Oteneaaron or Jesus?

Why don't you ask him yourself?

You can't even think or speak for yourself, you have practically turned into a MaxInDHouse-part-two.

SMH

I honestly don't even know where to start with you.

MaxInDHouse:
I believe this is the end of your so called "RESEARCH"

It's all about arguments from HOPELESS ones of your kind but we have a hope and we'll live up to it, after all our daily bread is not coming from your side!

Farewell oteneaaron!

You clearly said FAREWELL.

I am surprised to see that you are still on this merry go round.

I asked you for a summary of your evidence that Jesus actually existed and is not a myth.

And this was your summary:

MaxInDHouse:
In the first century a man was known among the Jews who claims to be their Messiah.

Instead of doing what they expected he was busy doing what he was programmed to do.
Most of his contemporaries including many of his friends deserted him for this reason.

By the end the religious rulers among the Jews decided to do away with him and bury his case but his loyalists were ready to take his teachings everywhere they go even if it means their lives.

2000 years later people still remember this man due to all the things written by his loyal and faithful friends, and today millions across the globe are practicing what he taught so that a global family of peace loving worshipers have emerged due to the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth!

Or did you suddenly have a change of mind?

I have laid down my points and gave you an easy to follow summary.

I asked you to show me how you have "humiliated" me and till now, I still haven't seen how I was "humiliated".

achorladey:
The debate on his part was to seek self righteousness and glorification. To demean others and denigrate whatever they do. He said he humiliated you That was his motive not the discussion. He shouldn't be discussing and wasting time discussing stupidity and shaku shaku research. You begin to seek where is this military intelligence he boast about.

It all started with him saying

1. You just pack stupid and stupidity research put for head

2. Shaku shaku research

3. Discussion with hopeless people.

4. So called research.


Then he has to go to default mode. Pick out the better performance performing group.

Lol.

We already know his modus operandi.

Let him keep dancing Naked on the streets of Nairaland.

We will keep cheering him on.

MaxInDHouse:
I believe this is the end of your so called "RESEARCH"
It's all about arguments from HOPELESS ones of your kind but we have a hope and we'll live up to it, after all our daily bread is not coming from your side!
Farewell oteneaaron!

Lol.

E pain the guy.

You still didn't show me how you "humiliated" me.

MaxInDHouse:
Two unbelievers came to comment and both spoke as if well meaning individuals.
One is hopeless and the other worships SEX as god so it's according to the abundance of their hearts they're speaking! Luke 6:45
That's what it means to be an agent of the intelligence!

What right do you have that makes you call another man an unbeliever, hopeless and a worshipper of sex?

Who made you a judge?

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for your contribution Sir!

So just because he didn't say something that supported you, you had to go dig out things he said.

So typical of you Max.

So so typical.

MaxInDHouse:
We are the agents of the intelligence. We don't just conclude on what people say or do rather we try to READ THEIR HEARTS! Luke 6:45
If you don't want to believe that Jesus truly lived, it's fine nobody can force you to believe but when you come up against believers then intelligent ones will work out the motive behind your speech!
Thanks!

No more an intelligence officer, you are now a mind reader!

MaxInDHouse:
Of course i won't waste my data nah!
Is this not what you've been crying all these while and by the end of the day all you could bring here is arguments of people who never lived in the first century!

So you are indirectly calling yourself IGNORANT?

MaxInDHouse:
I already told you what we believe and it's about the aftermath results in whatever thing people say or write.

Jesus Christ of Nazareth walked this planet but since only his loyal followers believe him they penned down what he said and today a global family of peace loving worshipers emerged through the teachings of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Perhaps you don't know what that means to a soldier like myself so let me tell you!

Our PRIMARY duty as soldiers is not to kill people but to make our enemies surrender their weapons and accept dialogue but when that doesn't work then we go for our weapons.

Now this is what it will cost us to settle matters if the enemies refuses to retreat:

What is WAR?
Bombs that cost $ 100,000 Dropping from a plane that costs $ 100,000,000 flying at a cost of $ 40,000 per hour to kill people living with less than $1 a day.

But the teachings of Jesus Christ of Nazareth has done what all that could do without force or bloodshed.
His true followers (Jehovah's Witnesses) have erased the use of weapons not only from the hands of millions around the world but made them to vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

What is the weapon this group is using?
Well it's just the teachings of that first century Jewish man called Jesus of Nazareth!

Well if you think he's just a myth then the writers of such a myth have done the best job ever in the history of mankind!

Lol.

Still doesn't prove Jesus truly existed as a real figure in history.

MaxInDHouse:
Come on, you don't believe in the records of eyewitnesses so else how do you expect me to prove what both of us never witnessed nah?

So there is no actual reference?

Are you saying you made that up?

MaxInDHouse:
You saw what i typed nah!

Read it again.

They were all eye Witnesses but the event each person saw differs from what they heard from others who saw things Jesus did in the the presence of the writers.

Does it make any sense?

MaxInDHouse:
Come on, producers of anything are trying to make money from what they're producing so when you download their videos they make money. Of course Jesus' case is one that most people will like to trade with nah.
Sorry i'm discussing with someone who doesn't know that bloggers fabricate stories just to create traffic!

This is exactly what an ignorant person would say.

I can bet my left balls that you didn't even watch the video.

Yet you jumped into conclusions.

MaxInDHouse:
I've not seen anything in what you call research except arguments from people who lived centuries after Jesus of Nazareth.
Please their opinion doesn't count to me!

So is this how you "humiliated" me?

MaxInDHouse:
@ Oteneaaron.
Apart from you who feels you're not convinced about Jesus' historicity what is your conclusion? Or do you think everyone should just agree with you that since you're not convinced that is enough evidence that Jesus never existed?

You should ask yourself the same question.

With what you have stated so far, have you proven that Jesus truly existed and is not a myth?