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Virtually all the States received bail outs.


[quote author= post=90226910]Most of the states that quoted high figures can't sustain themselves, we all saw what happened during Nigeria recession 2015-2016 when oil price was down, many of them were bankrupt FG had to bail them out.[/quote]

Many of you don't understand how State Governments operate in Nigeria or have good understandings of economics.

1) Revenues accrued into the State coffers are NOT the sole determining factors in the payment of salaries.

Bayelsa State, an oil producing State has a larger Federal allocations than Kebbi ,yet Bayelsa still owes Salaries while Kebbi doesn't owe salaries.

2) A Lecturer earning #500,000 salary in Lagos can still be oweing house rents while a security guard in the same University earning #70,000 per month may not be oweing may not be owing house rents.

There are professors earning fat salaries in UI that haven't built their own houses and are in debts while their office messangers, receptionists/typists/ drivers are living in their own houses in Ibadan.

What makes the difference- scale of preferences.

olisaEze:
Make una not make mi vex, Kogi generates more than Bayelsa but can’t pay salaries ni!? Abeg shift with ur bojuboju stats.

IGR is taxes/levies/rents/dividends collected by the States Government.


Poverty index deals with individuals NOT their State Governments.

Some States get profits from their investments in banks, qouated companies and real Estates that may not necessarily be domiciled within their territories.

A State that has 5 heavy industries can generate some taxes from such industries. However this doesn't necessarily affect the masses in that State who are living from hands to mouth.

Also, apart from the populace and industries in the States, methods of tax collections varies from States.

Some States still rely on old fashioned 'Boards of Internal Revenues' manned by corrupt civil servants to collect their taxes.

These civil servants for instance can register 20 vehicles for renewal of license or collect levies for building plans from 20 prospective landlords in a week but they will declare that they register only 8 vehicles/buildings and pocket the rest.

Some States make use of Private Tax Collecting and Management Firms like AlphaBeta, Olusola Adekanola etc. These firms can pay Governments upfront and they use modern means to recoup their money and extra money which form their profits.

Tinubu's firm, AlphaBeta is good in this area and many States employ them to collect their taxes.

Esseite:
Sokoto was declared poorest state by same NBC how does the poorest generate more IGR than oil producing states that is the major source of income?..

Zamfara is not one small enclave. All these things aren't happening all over the State.

For every cow, sheep and goat leaving Northern States, they pay tax. Same things apply to baskets of onions, Tomatoes, pepper and beans.

Esseite:
I think its becoming obvious, Fraud is getting into Nigerian statistics..

War prone Zamfara that wa s lynched with bandits, ban on mining, illegal mining, sharia state earned more than Abia..

christejames:
FUTO make sense ooo!

Didn't know she has such buildings although architecturally bland.

But that school no get girls, why?

The university is only for boys.

Park well Bros, political parties account for 70% of the factors needed to win a Presidential election. . . it's the parties that contest and win elections.

1) On the ballot paper, you don't see names of candidates but names &logos of political parties.


2) Just name one instance where the political party that win the highest numbers of State Governorship and Senatorial seats fail to win the presidential election in an election year.

Politicians go to the polls to secure a mandate for their parties to rule.

3) If you think APC House of Reps, Senatorial and Governorship candidates in the 'North' will be working for their Presidential candidate to be defeated so that their opponent in the PDP can come to power , then you don't know how party Politics work

Kcwise199:
Seems u guys don't understand the north. Those guys are not after party but candidate. if Apc picks a southerner and PDP pick a northerner, and u know those guys knows d game of divide and rule perfectly. All they'll do is to align with south East and gv them VP and south East will want to revenge south West in order to pay them with their own coin. The pain of GEJ's lost still dey their body. At the end, the north continues.

Eeyah, see what frustrations can cause naw!

WeneDiali:
You are permitted to live in your utopian denial. Afterall yoruba have been ethno-psychologically diagnosed as chronic utopian idealists with very little taste for pragmatic realism.

Now I am happy that at least we still have educated and matured adults on this forum.

PoliticallyInco:
The reason why two people come together is not because of the sex organs alone. Logic is extremely far from this notion.

If that be the case, then gay men will mast-urbate and so will gay women. Lesbians will not need a partner as they have their own fingers and toys. With the development of fleshlite and recent sex dolls revolution, how has that stopped men from seeking out women?

It is highly jejune to see sex between a man and a woman as just the introduction of one sex organ another or the manipulation of sex organs by another person. There are many other benefits of homosexual and heterosexual relationships and sex is simply what consolidates these benefits. Sexual expression is what makes it special. You can show all the love and all the care and attention to your spouse, but when it cannot be fully expressed by sex/love making there is always a void. Ask people who have had their partners incapacitated sexually due to various reasons. They will tell you that while the affection there, they miss the expression of these feelings with their partners. They miss the physical expression. In the same way,ask partners who resorted to masturbation because their partners denied them sex.They will also tell you that masturbation after a while, did not give them the pleasure of being with another human.

Inanimate objects (equipment and toys) can never give the experience of communicating and interacting with another human being.

The importance of a partner goes beyond the sex organ they carry or wield.

Not until recently when I started hearing that young boys too were sexually assaulted, I used to think only females were victims.

Teenage girls in Secondary Schools sometimes fascinate about sexual intercourse and tries to experiment it with younger boys that can easily be manipulated.
However some of these girls too are minors.

Bros, which one is TRIBAL votes?

Must all members of a tribe vote for a particular party?

PDP won in Oyo and Ondo States, so which tribes voted for PDP in both States?

By the way, how do you determine the tribes of voters?

There are more Igbos in Kano and Kaduna States than Ondo State, why didn't they swing the pendulum of victory to the PDP sir?

There are more Igbos in Enugu and Abia States than Ondo &Oyo States.


PDP votes in the 2019 presidential election:

1) Abia State= 219,000, Ondo State= 275,000


2) Enugu State= 355,000, Oyo State= 366,000

Even if you don't tell yourselves the truth, the truth will still remain the truth.










. . .So kiss the truth

WeneDiali:
You are talking of regional votes not tribal votes. The SE and SS are scattered all over Nigeria and also make up a good chunk of SW voters. That's why your politicians wear Isiagu and Igbo red caps on political posters when constesting in your land to appeal to Ibo and SS votes in the SW and the north. They are not fools.

Atiku also performed creditably well with Peter Obi as running mate. A SW deputy will destroy PDP and they know it. So it is a no-go area. PDP was the only party that ensured the SW has tasted presidency, yet you insult the party and have done everything to destroy it, so that you can make APC the sole party and take another turn at the presidency. PDP has tried for you and does not owe the SW anymore. So a SW VP is not feasible in PDP

But with the support of North, SE and SS, PDP has continue to survive. SW cannot reap where you did not sow (your own words to the SE and SS).

You will have to pick your towel where you took your bath.

WeneDiali:
You can eat your cake and have it..
Like you people say to the Ibos, you can't reap where you did not sow. Take your own advice.

Democracy is a game of numbers;

1) Number of PVCs collected;

SW= 14 Millions, SE= 8 Millions

2) PDP votes in the 2019 elections;

SW= 1.6 Millions, S/East= 1.5 Millions.


Although Personally, I will like a candidate from the S/East to contest for the Presidency either on the platform of APC or PDP.

angelEmade:
more photos

Why can't most cities in Nigeria be like this?

What if the deputy is from the S/W or the S/South?

WeneDiali:
Stop overestimating your god, he lost several polling units in lagos including osibanjo's polling unit.

Moreover aside from all the odds stacked against tinubu based on him being a local yoruba political champion, a yoruba muslim cannot even be president with the current ethno-religious tension in this country.

If he picks a northern christian as VP, the northern muslims will protest and vote against him. If he picks a northern muslim as vp in a muslim-muslim ticket, he will get less than 5% vote in the SE/SS, NC and every yoruba christians will vote massively against him.

No one will be allowed to Islamize the country, even the north will see his practical failure before hand and pitch tent with their sons Atiku or Tambuwal who will have christian deputies from the East.

Devil and the deep blue sea.

Bros if Tinubu wins APC ticket, he will win the presidential election.


The APC machinery is still well oiled in most States.

If you think APC is about to lose power to PDP after 8years, then you haven't fully learnt the politics of Nigeria.

Jakemedg:
Yes Tinubu may win south west but remember apart from Lagos the opposition PDP has strongholds and once a state government dissappoints its people ,the people votes for the opposition party。History has shown that

Tribes aren't floating any candidate sir.


If Tinubu should win APC Primaries, he will defeat the PDP.

SarkinYarki:
If Yorubas are serious the should float Osinbanjo ....Nobody will vote Tinubu outside the Osun and Lagos

The poverty index has nothing to do with what you are saying.

Even if you remove Lagos from the S/West, two other S/Western States are still within the first ten States.

The poverty index is highest in the N/West, followed by N/E, followed by the NC, then S/E, then SS and then SW.


Instead of you guys to properly study the Statistics, you are fixated with unnecessarily contest with the S/West.

Even people from other parts of Nigeria don't dispute these Statistics except people from the S/E.

If you doubt the accuracy of the Statistics, then publish your own that you think is correct based on standardized methods.

rdokoye:
Most of the money generated in Lagos comes from multinationals, MDAs, public sector and PAYE (which you pointed out). The fact that PAYE is relatively low, is irrelevant in the case of Lagos.

IGR doesn't mean anything. The sustainability of the state is determined by its expenditure to income, but state development is determined by the private sector. That's how all nations develop to first world status. Not from government initiatives, but from people initiatives.

That's why poverty is heavily correlated with education. Humans need education to setup businesses. Igbo people are the most educated, that's why you'll find, in Igboland, indigenous industries, manufacturing cars, plastics, foodstuff, computers, clothes etc... You won't find people in Sokoto manufacturing cars; simply because the populace lacks the knowhow.

Likewise in SW, you won't find the equivalent of Zinox anywhere in that land.

Let's keep it to the SW, excluding Lagos, which has nothing whatsoever to do the with SW.

Bros ,I don't think you fully understand the concepts.


1) Poverty rates measures the percentage of ALL the people in each State living below a predetermined benchmark, it doesn't measure the percentage of wealthy people.


2) Low poverty rate in a State does NOT mean the State has high percentage of wealthy people.


3) Wealth is NOT the direct opposite of poverty on this scale as there are many stages in between the two extremes.

A resident of Kogi State above the poverty line doesn't mean he is wealthy.

4) States and NOT necessarily tribes are the research areas.

mrvitalis:
Lol but it's stats still dropped .....you can justify this any how u want ...ekiti better than anambra ? Lamo or imo ?

Mathematics and stats don't lie because u can't manipulate it without it being obvious

Who says 87% of poor people in Nigeria are in the north ...yet u say 42 percentage of South East is poor ? ...but can't equate

So there are no private sector in other parts of Nigeria except in the S/East and the private sector can not be taxed?

So almost all the 6 million people in Edo State are Government workers?

rdokoye:
IGR is not a contribution, it's internally generrated, hence the acrynum.

South-East governors have a vested interest in keeping tax low, because unlike in other parts of Nigeria. Igboland actually has a private sector.

TOPCRUISE:
I pray that the demon that is using you to write this rubbish will leave you alone. It's certain you need deliverance

He is one of the foot soldiers of 'Anti-Christ'

Thank you sir for this divine revelation.





















But how is this going to lead to the restoration of Biafra?

kingzizzy:
Osibanjo is no longer of any use to Buhari. Buhari is not coming back in 2023 and Osibanjo has been used to sway the SW votes. Osibanjo has been relegated to the background, he no longer serves any purpose

Are you a Professor of 'Law of Matrimonial causes'?

Funmitybose:
It's never done anywhere.cos the guy can do same thing.bros relax.