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The ethnic group of the Traditional Ruler may not necessarily be the same as that of the people of the Town and examples abound all over the World e.g Ilorin, England, Kano, Onitsha etc

Tafawa Balewa's cases of sectarian crisis resulted in failures of the Fulanis Rulers to successfully impose Islam on all the inhabitants of the city such that some sayawas became christians which make cultural assimilation of the two tribes difficult unlike what happened in Kano, Ilorin or Zaria.


The Late Prime Minister's Father was an ex-slave possibly from minority Chadic tribes.

godofuck231:
he was Chadian, his father moved from Chad and settled in nigeria,
"Tafawa Balewa village takes its name from two corrupted Fulani
words: "Tafari" (rock) and Baleri (black)."
The area has been known for sectarian and ethnic violence over
the years. The major ethnic groups are the Sayawa and
Hausa/Fulani.
An Associated Press story states, "The
Sayawas are in the majority in the town and its surrounding
villages, but their traditional rulers have been of the predominantly
Muslim Fulani ethnic group. The Sayawas have demanded a
separate traditional ruler, which has led to attacks and
counterattacks over the past two decades."
his father was a settler

Okay, I think we have to direct Jubrin from Sudan to look for Mr Hope Uzodinma and makes him President in 2023.

ODUBEZE:
The same way OBJ looked for Yaradua

We have to look for someone closer to the people

How do we do this sir?

ODUBEZE:
You should listen to FFK and take a cue from OBJ

OBJ looks for someone, he knows has the qualities the people yearn for and throws his weight behind such person as seen in the case of Yaradua and not Buhari

As a president, he had a candidate in Ekiti, but when he discovered that Fayose had the heart of the people, he backed down

That's what makes OBJ a great leader, that one quality stands him out!!!

If Nigeria is to heal, we need to look beyond party, and pick someone they (Igbos ) trust to be there!!!

That's how things should work in a secular state!!!

How can we do it sir?

oluwadabira111:
Igbo's should be allow to rule this country come 2023 that's the only way to stop their agitation for Biafra!

Nobody have heard about Obasanjo in 1999?



How old are you sir?



I think, with this statement I need to stop discussing politics with you, as a matter of urgency!

bigfish3k:
Nobody heard about OBJ before he was given ticket
If we contest and loose we would have made a statement while the fulanis will continue ruling

Our best bet is to join forces in the south to salvage nigeria

You are still making the same fixed mistake.

Nobody is saying an Igbo politician should not contest in any party.


Dr Alex Ekwueme did NOT found the PDP. The G-34 group consisting of 18 political leaders in the North and 18 political leaders in the South transformed into the PDP in 1998 and the majority of them favoured Olusegun Obasanjo at the Jos Convection of the party.

The PDP delared that they were zoning their ticket to the South and the following aspirants contested for the ticket;

Olusegun Obasanjo
Alex Ekwueme
Jim Nwobodo
Don Etiebet
Alabo Graham-Douglas
Philip Asiodu.



There has never been a presidential primary of a major political party where only members of a partucular tribe contest.

Let igbo candidadates buy APC presidential forms and seek their party nomination like it happened in the PDP in 1999 and 2018.




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bigfish3k:
Let's see how it goes because Alex ekwueme and Co also established PDP but just to heal the Yoruba wound OBJ that was in prison and didn't work for it was brought out granted pardon and he contested and won on the PDP platform that is not a Yoruba party. And yorubas were allowed to reap where they did not sow
A Yoruba party now came up their only main agenda is the marginalization of the igbos
They came out with a slogan that you don't reap where you did not sow even though we have igbo senators and reps and APGA was also part of the merger at the formative stage of APC

I wish you good luck.



However , i am a strong advocate of payment of taxes because this will give citizens the moral right to be interested in their government and proper participations in government.

Prolong period of governance based on sharing of revenues at the centre to the States has killed ingenuity and proper development at the grassroot level.

mrvitalis:
When they see massive construction in 6 months they would close mouth

Who can determine who can rule and who can NOT rule.


In my personal opinion, i think Igbo politicians like Ike Ekweremadu, Peter Obi, Dave Umahi should serioulsy seek the PDP nomination for the presidential ticket because of the following reasons;

1) In politics, perceptions can have greater effects than reality.

You need to be heard and seen regularly before any body can take you serious.
Even if they don't win in 2023 ,they will make bold statements in the consciousness of Nigerians.

2) The negotiation angle: Even if Peter Obi slug in out with Atiku, Kwankanso or Tambuwal for the PDP ticket and he doesn't win, he and the igbos will be called for negotiation after the primaries as PARTNERS and not surbordinates.


In the USA, Black politicians have been participating in presidential politics for about twenty years before Barack Obama eventually became president in 2008.

The Rev Jesse Jackson made a bold political statement by running for the presidential ticket of the Democratic Party in 1986.

There was significant pressure on Gen Collins Powell to join the Presidential race in 1998 but he turned down the offer.

bigfish3k:
Anyway, the owners of nigeria have told you in another tread that they will rule forever

So with ordinary insults we can't rule but with the killings, boko haram, Iswap, lootings, bandits, sharia, Ruga and the ownership of the whole of nigeria comments the northerns can rule.
Continue your hatred

Zoning is not in the constitution but each party's INTERNAL arrangement.


Zoning is not even in the APC's constitution, so any APC member whether El-Rufai, Babachir Lawal or Fashola can contest for the party's ticket.

However, most party members feel that the Southern politicians who exercised patience and sacrifices in 2015 and 2019 should have the ticket.

bigfish3k:
But you people are saying that rotation is unconstitutional

Answer= Failures of Leadership.

Every country has its own problems and pass through certain problematic phases.

In the 19th century USA, similar armed bandits raiding communities without prosecution by the Government occured, mob actions and public lynching of certain controversial persons (e.g Joseph Smith) or unwanted minorities (e.g The Mormons) occured in the USA.

Even uptill recent years, many blacks were killed by the police without any
major consequences leading to the emergence of 'Black lives matter' campaigns.

In some West African countries, the Fulanis are also victims of marginalizations e.g Benin Rep, Niger Rep and Tchad.
In Central African Republic (CAR), Fulanis are sometimes hunted down and killed in similar ethnic clashes (i strongly condemn this)



The killings in Zamfara and Katsina have no religious colouration as both States are almost homogenous Muslim States and have similar ethnic backgrounds (Their peoples are of mixed Hausa-Fulani ancestries).

bigfish3k:
What I said is the truth not emotions. Why have they not arrested and prosecuted anybody

What if it is the Christians in their states they are trying to wipe out just like the southern kaduna case

Many of you react with just emotional rantings and nothing more.


In Katsina, the home state of the incumbent president, armed bandits are slaughtering the residents anyhow.

Fulani armed bandits have killed more people in Zamfara and Katsina than anywhere in the South. All these reflect failures of leadership and not really a constitutional matter.

However, elections into the presidency is a constitutional matter.

Fulanis are a minority tribe in Nigeria but the awe and fear with which you guys talk about them is arrogating more powers to them than they truly possess.

I repeat, no ethnic group in Nigeria can rule for 16years.

This can only happen if Nigeria were to be a small enclave like each of the present Geopolitical zone with 1-5 tribes, practicing almost the same religion and with similar world views.

In other parts of Africa, Post independent military rulers ruled for 30years but no single ruler ruled for more than 9 consecutive years in Nigeria ,even under military rule because Nigeria is too diversified, large and complex for one ethnic group to dominate and succeed for a long time.

bigfish3k:
Is it in the Constitution that your people can't go to their farms again because of killings and nobody is prosecuted

Stay there dey follow constitution while the fulanis unfollow it and nothing happens

This bros is funny sha. The constitution has already made provisions against such dominations.


Nigeria is not a homogenous country. No region/party can rule for a very long time in Nigeria.


This country is very complex. You just buy popcorn ,relax and be watching.You will see the massive anti-Fulani sentiments that such attempts will generate.

Even for Atiku (as detribalized as he seems to be) to try to suceed Buhari, another Fulani man in 2023, you will see reactions of many people, even from the North. You just keep watching.

bigfish3k:
They will definitely not rule forever but what about the generations that would have been wasted trying to drag back power from them.
That is what I am saying that we need a united south.

Any fool can make any statement about politics,that doesnt make it the Gospel truth.

No Empire reigns forever!

The Roman, The Sassanid and The Ottoman Empires were greater than the Fulanis and they didn't rule forever.



Change is the only thing constant.

bigfish3k:
No problem we gonna support the best possible outcome in any zone

But hope you read the tread where they said fulani will rule Nigeria forever

So if i am seeking the nomination of my party, PDP as her presidential candidate that mean i am campaiging against Igbos?

If a major ethnic group like the Igbos are wailing like this, what do you want the Ogonis, Efik or Urhobos to do?


Igbo politicians should join the presidential race, Fulani ,Nupe, Tiv and Yoruba aspirants should all collect presidential forms and convince the party delegates to vote for them.


When and how did you come to the conclusion that it is your turn and how do you enforce this zoning?



How will you force non-igbo presidential candidates to withdraw from the race?

This would have been much easier if we are still doing PDP one-party rule but the emergence of the APC mean we now have two major political parties subject to different authorities.

bigfish3k:
Because you have never heard my name doesn't mean that I don't follow nigerian politics.

Aside being a politician common sense should tell you that if yorubas are campaigning against igbos and at the same time campaigning for themselves I have no reason that that is their plan because another generation of yorubas will come up with another slogan of how igbos are not qualified to rule, they will cite one event against you and start telling you how smart politically they are. That is the game plan if not I don't understand how yorubas will be saying that educated igbos are not qualified from an over 40 million population

These politicians you mentioned are just concerned about what they will get now and not the future

The uproar that this tax policy will generate will send you out of the Government House.

When Aregbesola just became the Governor of Osun State and he wanted to introduce the Lagos State Tax template in Osun, the hatred that the policy generated against him was so much that nobody told him before he reversed the obnoxious tax policy.

mrvitalis:
U people talk as if this money is for capital project ...in most states 70% of this money is used to pay civil servants ..10% used to run government the rest used for capital project

I wonder how I can be governor of imo state and not generate 50 billion a month ...I'm I mad ?

Every business must be registered , I mean every business be u akara seller ...every business must have and identification number
Every business that makes less than 50k a month would be tax free , but yet be registered
Every business that's makes more than 50k profit would pay 20% of that extra profit as tax
Every goods above 1500 must be registered and vatted , failure to do this fine 500k or u forfeit your business ,
Every bus driver or taxi driver must pay 5k per week operational permit ...then if I catch u colleting money from drivers as agbro ..5 years jail time ..all payments must be electionic
All hotels would pay 20% for every service rendered ...room payment , food , drink , everything must be registered ... failure fine 5 million plus normal tax
Break traffic rule 200k or u lose your car

There is no how u can't raise 50 billion every month from this

How did you know that 'Yorubas want to be the sole beneficiary of the southern slot'?

Do you understand Nigerian politics more than Peter Obi, Ike Ekweremadu, Orji Uzo Kalu, Chris Ngige?
Why are these seasoned igbo politicians not accussing the Yorubas of trying to cheat them?

bigfish3k:
SE and north supported OBJ

So we should avoid a situation where the SE will join North to support a northern candidate because yorubas wants to be the sole beneficiary of the southern slot

1) The zoning of party and Government offices are enshrined in the constitution of the PDP which is inferior to the constitution of Nigeria and is not binding on APC members or other non-PDP Nigerians.

I think you should demand that the PDP should zone her presidential ticket to you and also envourage igbo politicians in the APC to seek the party's ticket.

2) I don't believe that only Yoruba or only Igbo or only Nupe or only Igala candidates should contest.

Why do you wrongly assume that once a Yoruba candidate is contesting, an igbo candidate can not win? We need to do away with us dangerous stereotypes.

3) Right now, igbo politicians somehow believe they can not win the 2023 presidential election but this is NOT due to the fault of the Yorubas.

The ambitious Igbo politicians are presently druming support for Atiku 2023 project, with the hope that an igbo candidate can become at least the Vice-President. Nobody is calling them 'betrayers, backstabber or greedy'

This is a worthy cause and nobody is calling them out for this choice but young igbo guys like you should leave Tinubu or any Yoruba politician alone to aspire for any post they deem fit.

Live and let live!

bigfish3k:
Agreed, that it suppose to be in the constitution but PDP has been practicing it and it has helped to stabilize the polity
But I wonder why you support that only yorubas should be producing the southern candidate. Do you think that this behavior will stabilize the south?
Or you just don't care
All these preaching of trying to outsmart SE doesn't make sense.
We are just calling for equity and not who is smarter or politicking better
Once it's our turn we should share it equally if not we will all loose forever.
I just pity the South

If you are well educated, well brought up and cultured, i believe you ought to know that you can pass your comments, even disagreeing with another commentator without resorting to personal insults.

Oloun:
I believe you lack comprehensive understanding by thinking that I am referring to a particular University

Besides, if you are reasonable enough you would know that it's only the wealthy that attends the schools you mentioned hence being highly employed as you said is just by family influence and connection not that they are the best.

Africans are the punching bag of the whole world.

We need to look inward, develop our countries and earn respect from other nations.

Okay, what exactly do you think this post will achieve?

agulion:
The biggest problem Nigeria has is Yorub.a people, the don't know what they want, Oduduwa republic no, Igbo presidency no, Amotekun no by MURIC, fulani rulling no, Biafra to go no, which type of people is this for God's sake

Fulanis weren't the ones controlling Jonathan o.

As a matter of fact, Fulanis were humbled and wailing during Jonathan's time.

yanabasee1:
But it's very possible.....Fulanis can rule Nigeria forever...

They've been ruling Nigeria underground... Even if a Southerner become a president tomorrow, the fulanis will detect for him.... Exactly what they did to GEJ that he had no option but to be asslicking them, Untill they kicked him out of office .....


They're the ones controlling Tinubu....

But you will still Atikulate in 2023 o

Ayo8:
Yenefer where you.?...how many cows for your dowry..??
Will they accept 100,000 cows..??

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What I know for sure is that after Buhari, if Nigeria remains, it will take extra grace for a fulani to become president of Nigeria.

Buhari is the last... let them enjoy it while it last.

This can only be attained if the rotation is enshrined in the constitution and the order of rotation is well stated to remove any ambiguity.


However, until this amendment is made, we have to play by the present constitutional rule.



#In my personal opinion, this can be enshrined in the constitution provided the powers of the president is greatly reduced to a ceremonial head of the country.

bigfish3k:
It will make for a stable polity if the south Unite against the north and the north against the south while we rotate the presidency amongst the two regions.
While Nobody will usurp the others turn

What can be more stable than that
Its better to learn from other countries mistake than to fall into the same ditch while claiming that it has happened before to others

Can the support of a paticular region makes one a president sir?


There is one particular factor most of you guys don't understand.

Criticize Buhari or any government official without adding unnecessary tribal colouration to it!

You can NOT win in this game by playing the tribal card.
The tribal card only work best for the side that has the largest majority.

You should be leading the onslought against any form of tribal cards in our national politics because it put your side of the divide more in a disadvantaged position.

SLAP44:
When a particular region supposed to be educated threw their weight behind a failed uneducated dictator, we all knew it's over for Nigeria.

. . .And how do we make our society normal?

All societies that appear normal evolve through trials, repeated trials and modifications of their national ethos.

Since we have adopted and accepted democracy as a system of Government, we need to try and re-try different democratic political permutations to deepen our democratic culture.

What you are calling 'Southern unity' will create a dangerous divide that will make other region too to gang-up against you. This will only deepen our fault lines and makes it difficult to achieve a national consesus.

Tinubu is a Ñigerian citizen and any citizen aspiring to become the president of his country should be encourage because this strengthen our democratic culture.

Tinubu, no matter his shortcomings is NOT the problem of Nigeria or the South and the whole debate about the 2023 election can not be centred on him.

Besides Tinubu, there are at least a dozen other Nigerians that are planning to contest the 2023 election.


Democracy is a journey, it is not a destination. It is a process, it is not an event.

There were many myths (e.g Civilian-to-civilian transition, 2nd term jinx, Southern candidate can not defeat Northern candidate etc) about Nigerian Democracy that have been bursted as we continue in the democratic process.

bigfish3k:
All that you are saying are normal if we are in a normal society.
But we are not in a normal society. We are in a society that miyetti Allah gives orders and take over peoples land.
That gamble by the south because of one man's ambition is not worth it in today's miyetti Allah controlled nigeria.
We need to put our best foot forward. The south will win if we collectively demand for it because its our turn
There is no way tinubu will win a northerner if the other south is against him because of his greed

Awolowos failed ambition of becoming Nigeria's president as was promised him by the hausas if he joined hands to scatter the aburi accord restructuring which Ojukwu did then is what we are still suffering from till today
Today everybody is trying to claim back that restructuring which igbos were killed for.

If you fail there will be no tomorrow to win on because I read this morning that miyetti Allah said that they need no permission to occupy any part of Nigeria
Just imagine what will happen if you fail because I am not seeing any winning by a southernner if we have a disjointed south

This may be the world you know, it may even be true for you but it is not the world that several millions of Nigerians know and that is not the truth for everybody.

It is not the same for Clarance Chukwuma, Betty Akeredolu, Phyno and several others.

Akaegwu:
Where Belle face

Did you see your 'fellow patriotic' activists shouting Jubrin and calling out Afonja?


When our criticism of Government is done with tribalism, the criticisms will not achieve any positive changes.
On the country, it will stir members of the opposite of the divide to rally round behind their own in Government and directly attack us.

9japride:
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It's unfortunate we don't ask questions because of religion, tribalism and hatred to oppress other people. A country rich with intellectual but allow thugs, criminals and other unqualified people to get close to the corridors of power. That's the Nigerian politics a particular region is accusing the south east of not knowing how to play.

Stop using soap to wash your vagina. It is harmful to the normal flora of the vagina.





With respect to this story, you need to know that there are varying levels of madness. Some mad people do bath regularly on their own or at the instance of their care-givers and may even be living with their relatives.

SweetCunt97:
A mad woman who's punny never see water and soap na him you get mind fvck raw? After una go dey complain about smelling punny

This your story dey terrifying ooo

You are saying totally different things.
Contesting elections is a type of gambles and besides 'killings, hunger and insecurity' are not the same thing as political supremacy of the Hausa-Fulanis.

What if 'the gamble' succeed?

Being defeated in an election is not necessarily an evil thing. You just need to buckle-up and start again.
Those who fail today, may win tommorow.

You are the one that need that advice most sir because you are the one blaming other Nigerians for your woes and everything that is wrong with the country.

'Southern Unity' is NOT a political party. It will elicit 'Northern Unity'. No serious politician is making these kinds of Statement.

bigfish3k:
The Bible also said that whatever we agree on earth is agreed in heaven
Why gamble with a trial that will make hausas fulani stronger if you fail
We are currently feeling what they can dish out by way of killings, hunger and insecurity all over and you still have the mind to gamble with what can give them a glimpse of increase in power. Hmnm, I tire oooo

Nobody is determining anything for the south for now until there is southern unity which I am advocating in order to be able to defeat the north
We just need to liberate the south or we perish together.
Our lands and lives will not be safe with the fulanis
I rest my case let's just watch till then but don't change the narrative to start blaming igbos when your gamble fails

I believe you want to reply someone else because this post is totally unrelated to my earlier post.

bigfish3k:
All those comments there are not from our political leaders so they are inconsequential.

And nobody in igbo land has ever harassed any hausa voters from voting just like u people did to the igbos in the last election by flogging old men and women with Cain in which ademola at okota nearly got killed
No igbo political leader commented unlike you that jagaban was calling us "awon okoro" to your delight which lead to your people harassing our peaceful voters

BTW, we are not claiming educated and sophistication like you people

Who determines the majority and what will hurt them?

The constition of Nigeria regulate the process of becoming a President in Nigeria.

The constitution of APC regulate the process of becoming APC presidential candidate.

What regulate the process of becoming the candidate of 'united South'? How many 'United South' do we have and how can we differentiate the original from the fake?


How can the whole debate about the 2023 be reduced to Tinubu affairs?


Igbos should support Atiku and leave Tinubu alone to pursue his ambition.

There are only two possible outcomes

1) Tinubu is defeated:
Implications=> The Poltical Supremacy of the Hausa-Fulani hegemony will be reinforced

2) Tinubu wins:

Implications=> The myth that a southern presidential candidate can not defeat a Hausa-Fulani candidate will once again be bursted.

Nobody becomes a leader of a country by mistake. If it is part of Tinubu's destiny to become the president, he will become the president and if it is not, he won't.

Psalm 62:11 'Once has God spoken, twice have i heard that power belongs to God'

bigfish3k:
There are some goals that are not OK to pursue if it hurts the larger majority
Tinubu should not pursue it because the entire South will loose out. You people have had ur turn so spoiling other peoples turn because of greed will leave a lasting hurt that will haunt the whole south
I am telling you the truth.
I still wonder why why equity and fairness is always missen in any Yoruba persons write up these days
During Abacha all yorubas were talking of equity, justice and fairness
But today during PMB they are always talking about how they can grab all while writing against justice and fairness

Are these Ewudugerean Chimpazees also part of Biafra or how did they become so powerful to prevent the restoration of Biafra sir?











#The Zoo must fall
#Biafra or Death
#Igbo Presidency or else!
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AhoadaRivers:
The signs are not good for the broken-headed ewedugerian chimpazees who have sworn never to embrace good things when it happens to others.

Ambazonian independence brightens the hope for Biafra but yoruba muslims will rather kill of any yoruba christians that mentions oduduwa. oduduwa is well secured for the fulanis within nigeria so there is no need to assuage them with the presidency, but there is big hope for Biafra and Nigeria will want to scuttle it by propagating and promising Igbo presidency in 2023. I just pray it's not too late by then.

The Ambazonians are very close in proximity to the Biafrans and Ambazonia may be the first country to officially recognize Biafra as state to the chagrin of the wicked amala munchers.

Biafrans must continue to connect and dialogue with international powers above Nigeria and pressure it to dismantle the evil contraption the British built to cage Africans like wild animals.

Since nigeria has sworn that Biafrans will never taste political justice since 1967, then there will be no respite for the contraption.

Watch this space.