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So if i am seeking the nomination of my party, PDP as her presidential candidate that mean i am campaiging against Igbos?

If a major ethnic group like the Igbos are wailing like this, what do you want the Ogonis, Efik or Urhobos to do?


Igbo politicians should join the presidential race, Fulani ,Nupe, Tiv and Yoruba aspirants should all collect presidential forms and convince the party delegates to vote for them.


When and how did you come to the conclusion that it is your turn and how do you enforce this zoning?



How will you force non-igbo presidential candidates to withdraw from the race?

This would have been much easier if we are still doing PDP one-party rule but the emergence of the APC mean we now have two major political parties subject to different authorities.

bigfish3k:
Because you have never heard my name doesn't mean that I don't follow nigerian politics.

Aside being a politician common sense should tell you that if yorubas are campaigning against igbos and at the same time campaigning for themselves I have no reason that that is their plan because another generation of yorubas will come up with another slogan of how igbos are not qualified to rule, they will cite one event against you and start telling you how smart politically they are. That is the game plan if not I don't understand how yorubas will be saying that educated igbos are not qualified from an over 40 million population

These politicians you mentioned are just concerned about what they will get now and not the future

The uproar that this tax policy will generate will send you out of the Government House.

When Aregbesola just became the Governor of Osun State and he wanted to introduce the Lagos State Tax template in Osun, the hatred that the policy generated against him was so much that nobody told him before he reversed the obnoxious tax policy.

mrvitalis:
U people talk as if this money is for capital project ...in most states 70% of this money is used to pay civil servants ..10% used to run government the rest used for capital project

I wonder how I can be governor of imo state and not generate 50 billion a month ...I'm I mad ?

Every business must be registered , I mean every business be u akara seller ...every business must have and identification number
Every business that makes less than 50k a month would be tax free , but yet be registered
Every business that's makes more than 50k profit would pay 20% of that extra profit as tax
Every goods above 1500 must be registered and vatted , failure to do this fine 500k or u forfeit your business ,
Every bus driver or taxi driver must pay 5k per week operational permit ...then if I catch u colleting money from drivers as agbro ..5 years jail time ..all payments must be electionic
All hotels would pay 20% for every service rendered ...room payment , food , drink , everything must be registered ... failure fine 5 million plus normal tax
Break traffic rule 200k or u lose your car

There is no how u can't raise 50 billion every month from this

How did you know that 'Yorubas want to be the sole beneficiary of the southern slot'?

Do you understand Nigerian politics more than Peter Obi, Ike Ekweremadu, Orji Uzo Kalu, Chris Ngige?
Why are these seasoned igbo politicians not accussing the Yorubas of trying to cheat them?

bigfish3k:
SE and north supported OBJ

So we should avoid a situation where the SE will join North to support a northern candidate because yorubas wants to be the sole beneficiary of the southern slot

1) The zoning of party and Government offices are enshrined in the constitution of the PDP which is inferior to the constitution of Nigeria and is not binding on APC members or other non-PDP Nigerians.

I think you should demand that the PDP should zone her presidential ticket to you and also envourage igbo politicians in the APC to seek the party's ticket.

2) I don't believe that only Yoruba or only Igbo or only Nupe or only Igala candidates should contest.

Why do you wrongly assume that once a Yoruba candidate is contesting, an igbo candidate can not win? We need to do away with us dangerous stereotypes.

3) Right now, igbo politicians somehow believe they can not win the 2023 presidential election but this is NOT due to the fault of the Yorubas.

The ambitious Igbo politicians are presently druming support for Atiku 2023 project, with the hope that an igbo candidate can become at least the Vice-President. Nobody is calling them 'betrayers, backstabber or greedy'

This is a worthy cause and nobody is calling them out for this choice but young igbo guys like you should leave Tinubu or any Yoruba politician alone to aspire for any post they deem fit.

Live and let live!

bigfish3k:
Agreed, that it suppose to be in the constitution but PDP has been practicing it and it has helped to stabilize the polity
But I wonder why you support that only yorubas should be producing the southern candidate. Do you think that this behavior will stabilize the south?
Or you just don't care
All these preaching of trying to outsmart SE doesn't make sense.
We are just calling for equity and not who is smarter or politicking better
Once it's our turn we should share it equally if not we will all loose forever.
I just pity the South

If you are well educated, well brought up and cultured, i believe you ought to know that you can pass your comments, even disagreeing with another commentator without resorting to personal insults.

Oloun:
I believe you lack comprehensive understanding by thinking that I am referring to a particular University

Besides, if you are reasonable enough you would know that it's only the wealthy that attends the schools you mentioned hence being highly employed as you said is just by family influence and connection not that they are the best.

Africans are the punching bag of the whole world.

We need to look inward, develop our countries and earn respect from other nations.

Okay, what exactly do you think this post will achieve?

agulion:
The biggest problem Nigeria has is Yorub.a people, the don't know what they want, Oduduwa republic no, Igbo presidency no, Amotekun no by MURIC, fulani rulling no, Biafra to go no, which type of people is this for God's sake

Fulanis weren't the ones controlling Jonathan o.

As a matter of fact, Fulanis were humbled and wailing during Jonathan's time.

yanabasee1:
But it's very possible.....Fulanis can rule Nigeria forever...

They've been ruling Nigeria underground... Even if a Southerner become a president tomorrow, the fulanis will detect for him.... Exactly what they did to GEJ that he had no option but to be asslicking them, Untill they kicked him out of office .....


They're the ones controlling Tinubu....

But you will still Atikulate in 2023 o

Ayo8:
Yenefer where you.?...how many cows for your dowry..??
Will they accept 100,000 cows..??

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What I know for sure is that after Buhari, if Nigeria remains, it will take extra grace for a fulani to become president of Nigeria.

Buhari is the last... let them enjoy it while it last.

This can only be attained if the rotation is enshrined in the constitution and the order of rotation is well stated to remove any ambiguity.


However, until this amendment is made, we have to play by the present constitutional rule.



#In my personal opinion, this can be enshrined in the constitution provided the powers of the president is greatly reduced to a ceremonial head of the country.

bigfish3k:
It will make for a stable polity if the south Unite against the north and the north against the south while we rotate the presidency amongst the two regions.
While Nobody will usurp the others turn

What can be more stable than that
Its better to learn from other countries mistake than to fall into the same ditch while claiming that it has happened before to others

Can the support of a paticular region makes one a president sir?


There is one particular factor most of you guys don't understand.

Criticize Buhari or any government official without adding unnecessary tribal colouration to it!

You can NOT win in this game by playing the tribal card.
The tribal card only work best for the side that has the largest majority.

You should be leading the onslought against any form of tribal cards in our national politics because it put your side of the divide more in a disadvantaged position.

SLAP44:
When a particular region supposed to be educated threw their weight behind a failed uneducated dictator, we all knew it's over for Nigeria.

. . .And how do we make our society normal?

All societies that appear normal evolve through trials, repeated trials and modifications of their national ethos.

Since we have adopted and accepted democracy as a system of Government, we need to try and re-try different democratic political permutations to deepen our democratic culture.

What you are calling 'Southern unity' will create a dangerous divide that will make other region too to gang-up against you. This will only deepen our fault lines and makes it difficult to achieve a national consesus.

Tinubu is a Ñigerian citizen and any citizen aspiring to become the president of his country should be encourage because this strengthen our democratic culture.

Tinubu, no matter his shortcomings is NOT the problem of Nigeria or the South and the whole debate about the 2023 election can not be centred on him.

Besides Tinubu, there are at least a dozen other Nigerians that are planning to contest the 2023 election.


Democracy is a journey, it is not a destination. It is a process, it is not an event.

There were many myths (e.g Civilian-to-civilian transition, 2nd term jinx, Southern candidate can not defeat Northern candidate etc) about Nigerian Democracy that have been bursted as we continue in the democratic process.

bigfish3k:
All that you are saying are normal if we are in a normal society.
But we are not in a normal society. We are in a society that miyetti Allah gives orders and take over peoples land.
That gamble by the south because of one man's ambition is not worth it in today's miyetti Allah controlled nigeria.
We need to put our best foot forward. The south will win if we collectively demand for it because its our turn
There is no way tinubu will win a northerner if the other south is against him because of his greed

Awolowos failed ambition of becoming Nigeria's president as was promised him by the hausas if he joined hands to scatter the aburi accord restructuring which Ojukwu did then is what we are still suffering from till today
Today everybody is trying to claim back that restructuring which igbos were killed for.

If you fail there will be no tomorrow to win on because I read this morning that miyetti Allah said that they need no permission to occupy any part of Nigeria
Just imagine what will happen if you fail because I am not seeing any winning by a southernner if we have a disjointed south

This may be the world you know, it may even be true for you but it is not the world that several millions of Nigerians know and that is not the truth for everybody.

It is not the same for Clarance Chukwuma, Betty Akeredolu, Phyno and several others.

Akaegwu:
Where Belle face

Did you see your 'fellow patriotic' activists shouting Jubrin and calling out Afonja?


When our criticism of Government is done with tribalism, the criticisms will not achieve any positive changes.
On the country, it will stir members of the opposite of the divide to rally round behind their own in Government and directly attack us.

9japride:
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It's unfortunate we don't ask questions because of religion, tribalism and hatred to oppress other people. A country rich with intellectual but allow thugs, criminals and other unqualified people to get close to the corridors of power. That's the Nigerian politics a particular region is accusing the south east of not knowing how to play.

Stop using soap to wash your vagina. It is harmful to the normal flora of the vagina.





With respect to this story, you need to know that there are varying levels of madness. Some mad people do bath regularly on their own or at the instance of their care-givers and may even be living with their relatives.

SweetCunt97:
A mad woman who's punny never see water and soap na him you get mind fvck raw? After una go dey complain about smelling punny

This your story dey terrifying ooo

You are saying totally different things.
Contesting elections is a type of gambles and besides 'killings, hunger and insecurity' are not the same thing as political supremacy of the Hausa-Fulanis.

What if 'the gamble' succeed?

Being defeated in an election is not necessarily an evil thing. You just need to buckle-up and start again.
Those who fail today, may win tommorow.

You are the one that need that advice most sir because you are the one blaming other Nigerians for your woes and everything that is wrong with the country.

'Southern Unity' is NOT a political party. It will elicit 'Northern Unity'. No serious politician is making these kinds of Statement.

bigfish3k:
The Bible also said that whatever we agree on earth is agreed in heaven
Why gamble with a trial that will make hausas fulani stronger if you fail
We are currently feeling what they can dish out by way of killings, hunger and insecurity all over and you still have the mind to gamble with what can give them a glimpse of increase in power. Hmnm, I tire oooo

Nobody is determining anything for the south for now until there is southern unity which I am advocating in order to be able to defeat the north
We just need to liberate the south or we perish together.
Our lands and lives will not be safe with the fulanis
I rest my case let's just watch till then but don't change the narrative to start blaming igbos when your gamble fails

I believe you want to reply someone else because this post is totally unrelated to my earlier post.

bigfish3k:
All those comments there are not from our political leaders so they are inconsequential.

And nobody in igbo land has ever harassed any hausa voters from voting just like u people did to the igbos in the last election by flogging old men and women with Cain in which ademola at okota nearly got killed
No igbo political leader commented unlike you that jagaban was calling us "awon okoro" to your delight which lead to your people harassing our peaceful voters

BTW, we are not claiming educated and sophistication like you people

Who determines the majority and what will hurt them?

The constition of Nigeria regulate the process of becoming a President in Nigeria.

The constitution of APC regulate the process of becoming APC presidential candidate.

What regulate the process of becoming the candidate of 'united South'? How many 'United South' do we have and how can we differentiate the original from the fake?


How can the whole debate about the 2023 be reduced to Tinubu affairs?


Igbos should support Atiku and leave Tinubu alone to pursue his ambition.

There are only two possible outcomes

1) Tinubu is defeated:
Implications=> The Poltical Supremacy of the Hausa-Fulani hegemony will be reinforced

2) Tinubu wins:

Implications=> The myth that a southern presidential candidate can not defeat a Hausa-Fulani candidate will once again be bursted.

Nobody becomes a leader of a country by mistake. If it is part of Tinubu's destiny to become the president, he will become the president and if it is not, he won't.

Psalm 62:11 'Once has God spoken, twice have i heard that power belongs to God'

bigfish3k:
There are some goals that are not OK to pursue if it hurts the larger majority
Tinubu should not pursue it because the entire South will loose out. You people have had ur turn so spoiling other peoples turn because of greed will leave a lasting hurt that will haunt the whole south
I am telling you the truth.
I still wonder why why equity and fairness is always missen in any Yoruba persons write up these days
During Abacha all yorubas were talking of equity, justice and fairness
But today during PMB they are always talking about how they can grab all while writing against justice and fairness

Are these Ewudugerean Chimpazees also part of Biafra or how did they become so powerful to prevent the restoration of Biafra sir?











#The Zoo must fall
#Biafra or Death
#Igbo Presidency or else!
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AhoadaRivers:
The signs are not good for the broken-headed ewedugerian chimpazees who have sworn never to embrace good things when it happens to others.

Ambazonian independence brightens the hope for Biafra but yoruba muslims will rather kill of any yoruba christians that mentions oduduwa. oduduwa is well secured for the fulanis within nigeria so there is no need to assuage them with the presidency, but there is big hope for Biafra and Nigeria will want to scuttle it by propagating and promising Igbo presidency in 2023. I just pray it's not too late by then.

The Ambazonians are very close in proximity to the Biafrans and Ambazonia may be the first country to officially recognize Biafra as state to the chagrin of the wicked amala munchers.

Biafrans must continue to connect and dialogue with international powers above Nigeria and pressure it to dismantle the evil contraption the British built to cage Africans like wild animals.

Since nigeria has sworn that Biafrans will never taste political justice since 1967, then there will be no respite for the contraption.

Watch this space.

The newly created Ambazonia Republic also include Biafra based on the latest 1632 Portuguese maps which shows that from Awak southwards to Ogoja and Southern Cameroon are all Biafra.






Thank God, Biafra is finally free!

#The Zoo must fall.

ZZ22:
I also noticed they have started putting Biafra and Oduduwa in same sentence. They are quick to ride on others back or reap where they didn't sow. I assure them their beloved one Nigeria must be enjoyed by them to the fullest

'It is better to know than wondering'- Benjamin Franklin



I will strongly advice Tinubu to damn all consequences and run for the presidency.

This bros is funny sha!


We should stop campaigning for ourselves and start campaigning for you?

I can't just stopping at this suggestion sir.


Well let me explain certain things for you sir,

The vehicle for seeking and getting the presidency or any post in Nigeria is the political parties and NOT southern unity or any regional unity.
If all the politicians in the South disregard their political parties' choices and back one southern unity candidate, they will still lose.

It is only the political parties that can help you with massive mobilization and get substanstial votes accross all tribes and religions in about 24 States.




#I will strongly advice Tinubu and other candidate to forge ahead and run for the presidency in 2023 damning all consequeces.


In the pursuit of one's goals, it is better to take a decision and fail than not taking any decision


All great heroes and inventors are those who damn all consequences and pursue their dreams to logical conclusions.

bigfish3k:
Hmnm APC, as if u don't know the popular advert during election by sanwo olu "when baba calls I will pick" so you should understand who controls APC sDW
Yorubas are busy running igbos down by writing articles in their papers how igbos are not qualified to rule, how igbos have burnt bridges
How we can't reap where we did not sow.
The yorubas made sure igbos are denied all positions from presidency to legislature to judiciary.
Yorubas came out with the slogan of "you can't reap where you did not sow.
Yorubas supported the removal of Onnogen because they believed he is an Igbo apologist
They are also in the fore front of campaigning how igbos are not qualified to rule
Once we start fighting back - the north will be the beneficiary that's why we are lying low
Yorubas have an orientation of hating on igbos even at work places.
They are just behaving as if their main goal in life is to see the Igbo man fail
So how do we now convince the yorubas to support us to run for president because in today's nigeria where religion and tribe holds sway it is not possible for a Southerner to win without the support of the other Southerners

OBJ wasn't prepared for president, he was brought out from prison and made President so it not really about preparation because atiku comes to mind
You people should stop campaigning for yourselves and swing the pendulum towards campaigning for us for the purpose of Southern unity

Is this a command, directive, revelation or prophesy from FFK?



What is bad in FFK, a third generation Cambridge university graduate and the son of a former deputy premier with a superb pedigree seeking the presidential ticket of his party instead of turning himself to a professor of Tinubu's destiny?

Bros, politics don't work the ways you are suggesting sir.

Whatever happened to Ambode was an APC affairs. All over the world, political parties decide who can represent them best in an election.

E.g The PDP decideded not to re-present Gov Mbadinuju of Anambra State for the 2003 election and substituted him for Dr Chris Ngige.

Tinubu is the leader of APC, not necessarily the leader of the Yorubas.
Tinubu can work for APC delegates to back a candidate at the APC presidential primaries.

Any candidate from Igboland that want people to support his aspiration will first contest for the Presidential ticket. You cannot sit in your house and say unless Tinubu advocate for you, you won't contest.

bigfish3k:
Tinubu doesn't want ambode you people agreed and followed him
Tinubu installed 4 governors out of the six in Yoruba land so he is your leader whom majority of you follow. It doesn't mean that all yorubas must follow him before you know he is your leader. He is your political leader

Before he drops dead he should foster southern unity so that an igbo man can be president but he is not doing that now
What I am saying is that he is very wrong in not advocating for an igbo presidency now that he is alive because if he dies it either he left a united south behind or a disjointed south.

Obviously you don't understand Nigerian politics with this very naive post you just posted.

1) How is Tinubu my leader or the leader of the Yorubas?

Is Tinubu the leader of FFK, Bode George, Ayo Fayose, Dr Olusegun Mimiko?

If Tinubu is the leader of Yorubas, who then is the leader of Igbos?
Who is the leader of the Edos,who is the leader of Nupe, Who is the leader of Igala people?

2) The way you are making 2023 election centred on Tinubu is quite funny.

Let's assume that Tinubu dies today, will that translate to an Igboman becoming the president in 2023?

If Tinubu or any S/West Politician doesn't contest, several other people will still contest and most likely will defeat Peter Obi, Ike Enweremadu or Ogbonnaya Onu.


3) It's better you encourage Igbo candidates to Join the presidential race with all seriousness and start projecting them instead of giving us 1001 reasons why Tinubu should not run for the Presidency.

4) You can't chase four rats simultaneously and catch any anyone.

*Biafra or Death!
* I am Atikulated
*Igbo Presidency
* Tinubu must not contest.


Chose one and devote your time, energy and resources to it.



#Cheers

bigfish3k:
He is your political leader whether private or not and you people listen to him
If he loves southern unity he should support an Igbo man.
If he doesn't contest and support an igbo man that means the three southern regions are now united then we can in a united form ask for support from the north since its on rotation basis and the turn of the south the north will oblige

And I also hope to become president very soon.

If I decide to contest in 2023 and just one million Nairalanders can pledge their dependable support and we start mobilizing for 6months such that each of the one million Nairalanders is able to convince additional 10 voters, that is 11 million votes on lockdown, I can win the election.

I have so many great ideas that can propel Nigeria into a first world country.

AhoadaRivers:
Good ambition, bon chance!

Are you suggesting that Tinubu, a private citizen is the cause of all these?



Let's assume that all the people who have shown openly the greatest hatred for Tinubu online and offline ask him not to contest in 2023 and he decides to comply in order to make them happy. . .how does this decision automatically translate to an Igboman becoming the president in 2023 sir?

bigfish3k:
Since 1966 till now igbos have never ruled nigeria
In this democracy that started in 1999 yorubas have ruled for 8 years under OBJ and we have 3 regions in the south : SW, SE, SS

SW = 8 years = OBJ
SS = 5 years = Jonathan
SE = nothing

So for fairness purpose and for southern unity he should as the political leader of the yorubas support a SE person instead of trying to spoil the soup by advocating for another Yoruba.
How do you want the igbos to feel

Hmn, but you know that it's not every fight that you can win and you may not win all the time.

If after fighting for the post but they don't win, what are we going to do sir?

Heavensent01:
if we are talking about oneness, of course I'm not talking about APC or PDP talk alone, I'm talking about Nigeria and in my post you read where I stated it that Igbo politicians must come out to fight for this post

My own ambition is that by 2023, I will be exporting my products to the USA, UK and Canada Insha Allah!

AhoadaRivers:
You tell us, what do you have in mind?

Tinubu is a Nigerian citizen, he has the right to seek for any elective position in his Country.

Why don't you too aspire to be a President?

Kweensavvy:
So Tinubu really wants to be President! Ahan, this man is funny sha

Let's assume that Tinubu doesn't contest in 2023.


How will this translate to Igbo presidency sir?

Do you just believe that Tinubu's not contesting automatically translate into Igbo presidency?

Joshmodest:
All this pro tinubu above me wuld wail come 2023 .....coss the northern APC would rather elect buba galadima than the landlord of the west !!!
Any random northerner would beat tinubu hands down , he thinks following buhari upandan amounts to support from the north ...
Tinubu can only become president of bourdillion !!

Great!





So what is the way forward sir?

AhoadaRivers:
You can lament to high heaven, you yorubas won't vote Ibo, you voted against GEJ a SSner all because you greedily want power. The rest of the south do not trust you because of your greed so forget their votes. Unfortunately no southern president have ever become president without majority southern vote which a yorubaman can never get.

It effectively means that yoruba cannot be president in the nearest future, you are pariahs in the south and the north will not vote a 'kaffir' yoruba over their brother.