₦airaland Forum

Sir, I guess you have been around enough to know that in life, especially in political life, most times all things don't remain the same.

dokie:
We are not talking spiritual at the moment. If we were, we shouldn't even be talking about 2023 in the first place.

We are simply analysing issues as humans (all things remaining same) just like one has a child and say he/she will be a graduate in 25years to come, without considering that the child can decide dropout of school to pursue other ambitions.

That's why we all should not be too passionate about any of this.

This is very childish sir.

It's seems you take this Nairaland comments very serious and you are very bitter about the outcomes of the 2015 and 2019 elections.

In a democracy, everyone exercise their rights to vote for ANY candidate that they like and there is no crime committed in doing that, so no need for punishment of any region or ethnic group.

There are hundreds of ethnic groups in Nigeria, many of whom voted for any candidate so why singling out the Yorubas for special punishment?

And why do you think you or few embittered fellows like you on Nairaland can punish a whole ethnic group?

What's so special about 2023? Where is it written or said that a Yoruba MUST be president in that year?
In electoral contests, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, what's so special in that?


If a Yoruba man is not elected as a President in 2023,'then they can win another time... please stop all these arrant nonsense talks sir.

franchasng:
Yorubas miscalculated and created enemy for themselves with their Southeast and Southsouth brothers they ought to have stood with or at least not condemn them so viciously like they have been doing since 2015 that they ganged-up against Goodluck, supported the bias removal of CJN Onnoghen.

Power will return back to PDP, definitely to a Northern politician, most probably Kwankwaso or Atiku or Tambuwal or any other Northern politician that PDP will field in 2023!

APC is a Lagos party without Buhari in the picture!

So in 2023 when Buhari completes his tenure, he will become a docile siddon de look while his Northern brothers put their cars on reverse gear back to PDP to ensure power remains in the north.

And of course Southeast and Southsouth will vote massively for PDP's Northern candidate to ensure they pay Yoruba people back their attacks and hatred on SE and SS!

By then, we will see how Southwest will win 2023 Presidential election.

The only way APC can possibly remain in power in 2023 is to field a Northern candidate like El Rufai, Nuhu Ribadu, which Tinubu and Southwest will never accept, so 2023 will be super fun to witness, God please keep me alive and healthy to witness the events

Sir, people die everyday and neither of us is better than those who have died.


Take life easy, work hard to excell and leave the rest for God, who knows YOU may even be the President in the not too distant future.

SouthEastFacts:
Na you wan kill me?

Let the Yorubas worry about that sir.
Don't take Panadol for Yoruba's headache.

izombie:
we have nothing to hide. We are just telling you guys now so that you'll stop salivating on the 2023 presidency. With the way it's going, i am not even sure apc will present a yoruba candidate if pdp presents a northerner.

In all these your permutations,where do you put God?

You know how the next 30years will be?

dokie:
Absolutely.

Beyond all these, the PDP is willing to do everything and anything to get national power back. The strongest individual northern politician is in pdp (kwankwaso), and he wants the presidency by all means. Buhari is too selfcenterd to bother about anything else, especially in 4 years time when he'll be older and more demented. The APC would be having so much internal issues because the SW would be demanding power as its right, while the wise ones amongst them would be routing for a northern candidate so that they don't lose power to PDP. Meanwhile, SE/SS would have already aligned behind the northern PDP candidate.

The truth is that the only way SW can get power in the next 30 years in Nigeria is if Buhari dies in office. With the look of things, it will hardly happen.

Sheath your sword bro, you don't know if you will be alive tomorrow let alone in 2023 to carry out your vindictive mission.


Take life easy sir, you don't own or control anything let alone determining the political future of the Southwest.

SouthEastFacts:
When we started practicing democracy, you guys were in Oyo bowing to one useless king.

If you guys are really politically astute, you would have known removing Jonathan in 2015 is political mistake.

The SE/SS you insult today, will bury you politically in 2023.

We dey wait.

You are approaching electoral issues from an immatured emotional view.


In the exercise of constitutional rights to vote ANY candidate, there is nothing like backstabbing.

2015 is gone, 2019 election is also gone and they are now history, move-on and stop living in the past.

Arysexy:
We igbos will support a northern PDP candidate in 2023

Yorubas are not d only tribe good at backstabbing d south and scheming to grab power. We shall gladly support Kwankwaso/Obi Ticket come 2023.

Let's see how u will win with Osibanjo in APC

North must continue to rule the South till u backstabbing clowns learn

Bros relax and tone down on your fixation with Lagos.


The History, yore, political evolution,ethnography and world views of the Yorubas are different from that of the Igbos and this is complicated by the politics of the highly heterogeneous artificially created country we live in.

Asking why what's obtainable with the Yorubas is not obtainable with the Igbos is like asking why Banana is different from Oranges.

Chimok:
I ve never seen an Anambra man for any reason claiming Enugu, Owerri or Abia or the other way round.

So y would all Yoruba be claiming Lagos.
An Ogun, Osun or Ondo man cannot get entitlements that belong to lagosians just like an Igbo man cannot as well

What belongs to Lagos are for Lagosians alone and not for Ogun, Osun or Anambra man.

So Yoruba people should stop embarrassing and deluding themselves. You are not all from Lagos, just like Igbo men who come from their various states

The obsession of our Igbo brothers with Lagos never cease to amaze and amuse me.

Many young Igbo guys especially those born and brought up outside the S/East are smart and hard working guys but they seems to have a superficial understanding of the political Arithmetics of Nigeria.Many come online to proudly display this trait.

They approach political matters in a highly heterogeneous artificially created country by viewing issues solely from their own prisms and not viewing the same issues from the prisms of their opponents/competitors.

Lagos has been a maritime town/city for over 500years.

In Lagos, like in many other coastal maritime cities, Sea-Ports with different levels of sophistications we're built and re built over the centuries.

diadem10:
So the British are Ibos? Lol.

And with whose money? Lagos was already an economic hub before the British came in. Have you forgotten the British stated that they met the Ijebus and egbas making adire cloth and aso oke which were sold to the neighbouring countries. These people were also palm oil merchant.

One fact you have realised is no SS oil developed Lagos. Get that sunk into your skull.

I am not in support of artificial sexual partners.
There should be no substitute for humans in the most intimate affairs of humans.

bamasite:
I won't argue with you.

However, rather than beg the authentic to go harder, faster, and while I am yet to reach orgasm, he cums and goes limp, I WILL RATHER PRESS A BUTTON TO GET THIS PREMIUM VIBRATOR TO HELP ME REACH ORGASM IN PEACE. PLUS, THIS ONE CAN'T CHEAT ON ME AND BRING ME A DISEASE. NEED I ADD THAT I DON'T NEED TO COOK, DO LAUNDRY OR RUN ANY ERRANDS FOR THIS ORGASM MACHINE? PREMIUM ORGASM GUARANTEE VIBRATOR IS BAE!

Do you mean the 'neatest people' who constitute 52% of the population, that 'own' 60% of the economy of Lagos and have bought almost all the houses in Lagos are also suffering under Tinubu's yoke?

Mizwisdom:
I hope PDP can learn from this, don't bother putting up candidates for any position in Lagos, stop wasting money. The people are cursed to suffer under Tinubu's yoke.

Can you please explain this very well sir?

MXrep:
Wike was aligning with Tambuwal using igbo hating to market himself. Southerners must desist from seeking northern endorsement using igbo hating or we will always pay back on the day of reckoning.

Stop spreading fake news, Gov Ajimobi never mentioned Igbo.

asobo:
It's not your fault you don't follow politie but Ajimobi referred to Uche Secondus as an Igbo man who wants to impose Eng. Makinde on Oyolites. In as much as the OP is an APC apologist you need not argue with him because it wasn't Igbo's that voted but Yoruba's

Karma caught up with the governor @ Ajimobi

Lagos elections: The PDP, Lagos chapter need to go back to the drawing board and do a thorough soul searching.
They urgently need to discard the strategy of appealing to the emotions of non-Yorubas as a mean of gaining political power because such divisive strategies not only end up pitching the non-indigenes against their host communities, it's bound to be counterproductive.

deomelo:
If you say it's raining outside, they will shout Tinubu, say the sky is blue, they will shout Tinubu, Tinubu is the beginning and end of their existence and the reason why their towns and villages are backward and unproductive, he's even the reason why they must leave their villages and head to Lagos for survival.

I don't even get the fascination with the man, he's not a public official and he left public office decades ago.

Funny enough, you can not deny him anything or stop him from doing anything because he's a private citizen, he's not running for office so you can not stop him or do anything to him.

O to ge stopped Saraki in Kwara because Saraki is a public official running for another term in office so you can deny him that opportunity be not voting for him, but Tinubu is not running for anything so you can not stop him and you can not ban him from politics, from political association and supporting political candidates because according to the Nigerian constitution, he's free to associate with any political party, groups and associations.

Instead of facing and campaigning against Sanwo Olu, they wasted their time and energy on Tinubu who is not running for anything.


And to make matters worse, they injected tribalism with ibo votes which Yoruba APC and PDP united together joined forces to reject overwhenmingly

It you people that declared that you constitute 52% of the population of Lagos, own 60% of it's economy beating your chest that you developed Lagos and without you, Lagos will become a ghost town and often like to declare 'Lagos is no man's land'.

The investments of Dangote, Ishaku Rabiu, TY Danjuma,Abdulsamad Rabiu (BUA group) in Lagos dwarf the investments of you people in Lagos, yet I have never seen a Northerner publicly saying 'Lagos is no man's land' or that they own 60% of the economy of Lagos'

zionmde:
Osun, oyo, kwara, ondo, ogun
No development
Pls join me in thinking

Abia, Anambra, Imo ,Ebonyi and Enugu are over 95% Igbo in population yet they haven't recorded significant development....think deeply sir, think deeply and think again.

zionmde:
Igbos envy nothing about yorubas, nothing at all. Its the other way round.
The day Igbos choose to stop using the port in lagos and stop using banks whose headquarters are in lagos that's wen u know lagos is wat it is because of Igbos. When Igbos choose to leave the so called lagos, tell me who will live in those expensive houses? Hausas? Or agberos?. Don't be deceived the exodus of Igbos from lagos won't create any opportunity for yorubas because they can't suddenly develop business sense and occupy the businesses Igbos do.
Just pray one day the Onne and calabar ports doesn't become fully operational, then u will know lagos is nothing.
One more thing 80% of yorubas in rivers state are taxi drivers. No single sense of taking the opportunities in the land.

So how exactly does the Igbos who conquer everywhere they go commercially envy yorubas.
Pray also the country doesn't break up, don't think Igbos will keep importing goods through Tin can island

Their fixation on the demystification of Tinubu is NOT borne out of altruistic desires for any good governance but the need to see the downfall of Tinubu.

RockHard:
Hypocrites. So now Lagosians are supposed to learn from Kano people because Kwankwaso's handpicked candidate/godson (who also happens to be his son inlaw) is winning kano? Una dey condemn Tinubu in Lagos while praising Kwankwaso who handpicked his son-in-law in Kano to replace Ganduje his former protege -- same thing Rochas Okorocha was condemned for. I am sure these hypocrites would have also praised Saraki if he had won. This Igbo obsession with Lagos and Tinubu matter is really something. Tufiakwa.

Kwankwanso is the name of his hometown in Kano State.

In 1992, he was a member of House of Representatives but when he started Statewide politics, he like many other politicians that are not from Noble families need to stress the names of their town as an identity.

In Yoruba land, however your family backgrounds is far more important than your town's identity, that's why some people from reputable/Noble families add their family names to their surnames to gain grassroot acceptability e.g Ex-Gov Adebayo Alao-Akala who added his family name ,AKALA to his surname in 1997 when he joined Politics.

He reminded his constituents that he is a descendant of the great AKALA, an illustrious citizen of Ogbomosho of old, admired by the town's people for patriotic contributions to the town.

Even in Kano, descendants of Bayero or Audu Bako like to add their family names to their surnames for recognition and acceptability.

Twy:
Why is his name Kwankwaso. In 1992, he was Rabiu Musa.

Bros calm down on this your anti-Tinubu rhetorics.


Tinubu, whether he is a good or bad politician is NOT the cause of your problems or the cause of the problems of Lagos or Nigeria.


There is no Tinubu in Abia or Kwara States, yet these States are quite under-developed.

dokie:
Sullivan chime blew up hills and filled up valleys to build roads (not a road) of 50km+ without tollgate linking the towns to villages in Enugu state , with the lowest levels of FAAC and very little IGR and didn't even hold commissioning ceremonies before they were put into use. Peter Obi did even more, and the story isn't too different in Ebonyi State, And one ignorant person will sit in his Lagos and be hailing Tinubu and his employees for utilizing less than 30% of the income the state gets and calls it the best level of governance in Nigeria.

The day Tinubu loses his grip in Lagos and a true performer gets to be governor in Lagos, these same people will curse Tinubu and his stooges for pillaging Lagos all these years when they see the progress that will be made.

But igbos, out of several non-Yoruba ethnic groups in Lagos have been most vocal (both online and offline) with the move to defeat APC and 'retire' Tinubu, the most successful politician in Southern Nigeria from politics.

kponkedenge:
This election has nothing to do with Igbo, is between two Yorubas. So I don't know why you're mentioning Igbos as if they want to take over Lagos State

By calling a leading candidate Jagaban boy, you already showed your partisanship.

You will realize you are wrong by 11:15pm on March 9th,2019

Jamezafolabi40:
the focus is more on the Jagaban boy, so leave agbaje alone and mind this thread is not to support or defame any party or individual just an opinion

The first written record of the word 'Yoruba' was in a 15th century book authored by the Songhai scholar, Baba Ahmed to described the people of South West Nigeria, South East Benin republic and related groups.
It was most likely coined from the two words, Oyo and Oba, initially referring to the people/subjects of the King of Oyo.

oilPUSSY:
I just posted a picture and you are wailing on my mentions.. I never knew I hit ur nerves.. Your alliance won't stop notherners to send you to your early graves when the need arises.. That's why you guys fear northerners like tomorrow no dey even when they insult you even on social media, you will turn back and said that the person is Igbo hiding under Hausa name even when the evidence is showing that the person is Hausa, you will stylishly chicken out and keep shouting "Igbos". That's the level of damage they have done To your your psyche.. You dare not challenge them because you know the consequences probably because of Awo's saga, Abiola saga and mother of all, mile 12 crisis..

Sometimes I feel for you guys (Cowards ), Igbos fought a very bitter war without loosing an inch of their territory, but you lost ilorin already without a single gunshot... That says a lot about the blood that flows in your vains..
Sometimes I will close my eyes and imagine if you guys had gone through the Civil war like Igbos, by now you would have been tamed forever because you will never come out of the effect, hence people stealing your recourses will become a normalcy..

Igbos fought a war, that did not stop them to confront northerners eye ball to eyeball whenever they misbehave.. Eg... During that Sharia madness...

Another one is after this election, Ohaneze came out and rubbed it on Buhari's face that Igbos will reject him again if there is anything like third term despite knowing that Buhari has a dictatorial tendency... That's the spirit.. An Afonja can't do that

@ the bolded, Forget the political alliances that have happened since the creation of Nigeria, I would advise you to travel to the North and meet any Fulani man on the street, ask him this question, between Igbo and Yoruba which tribe is resisting the influence of the notherners on them ?
Which tribe can easily be controlled by the caliphate ?
Which tribe is more gullible ?... His answer will determine who is a slave and who is not..
If you want to see a slave, get closer to a mirror...
Afonja, una dey make me laugh.. Smh

Congratulations for this prophecy.

oilPUSSY:
History might repeat itself.. Only a naive human being will feed a snake and hope to be protected by such snake..
Tinubu is in big trouble !

Your own Otoo ge in Lagos will fail.


Is Tinubu a candidate in the election?

oilPUSSY:
Isolo... Enough is enough..

The North produce over 90% of beef ,hides&doin, bones and animal blood consumed in Nigeria in addition to massive quantities of onions, groundnuts, tomatoes, pepper, corn, beans, rice ,gold etc

Karatum:
The north contributes absolute nothing to this country other than terrorism, banditry etc, yet they always want to take ALL. Bunch of leeches

Your understanding and expression of political process is childish.


How do you know that Buhari, Tinubu, El-rufai and/or YOU will be alive in 2023?


Are you insinuating or wishing that Tinubu should have supported another Fulani candidate from an opposition party so as to please you?

Do you know about politics or even life more than Tinubu?

hammerFC:
TINUBU IS ANOTHER SLAVE THAT WILL LEARN THE MEANING OF 'POWER BELONG TO THE NORTH' COME 2023 WEN BUHARI HANDS OVER TO ELRUFIA.


SARAKI LEARN HIS OWN IN 2015.


TINUBU WILL LEARN IN 2023.


A SLAVE IS A SLAVE AND FULANI KNOW HIS BROTHER AND HIS SLAVE.

Tinubu's political relevance will surely come to an end but NOT on Sat March09,2019.


*It's difficult for revolution to succeed if it's championed by 'foreigners' and not sanctioned by the indigenous peoples.

Jetrue3oo:
As it was easy for APC to remove oppressed kwarans from the slavery of saraki so will it be easy for lagosians to do same for Tinubu and her daughter iyaloja dynasty in Lagos politics

The Saraki dynasty has been on ground in Ilorin/Kwara since 1964 and have dominated the politics of Kwara State since 1979.


No empire reigns forever, it is common sense to know that they can't be winning permanently forever.

hammerFC:
IF OYO THAT DID NOT PRODUCE SENATE PRESIDENT AND MUSLIM CAN VOTE AGAINST BUHARI AND APC.


DESPITE MARRIAGE BETWEEN THE OYO STATE GOV SON AND KANO STATE GOV DAUGHTER.


NOW, TELL ME WAT THE AFONJA IN KWARA STATE MEAN BY 'O TO GE'? VOTING AGAINST THEIR SON, WHO IS ALREADY SENATE PRESIDENT?


A SLAVE REMAINS A SLAVE TILL TOMORROW.

I thought you people said Dr Bukola Saraki is not a Yoruba man but a Fulani man?

hammerFC:
THE AFONJA SIMPLY LIVED UP TO THEIR NAME.


DID ANYBODY EXPECT ANY DIFFERENT FROM SLAVES?


SARAKI HIMSELF WAS ONE OF DEM, UNTIL HE REALISE THAT FULANI HAVE NO PLAN FOR HIM.


FULANI KNOW HIS BROTHER AND HIS SLAVE. BUHARI PROVED THIS TO HIM IN 2015.

The Pan-ethnic group will now call Yoruba in Nigeria are the same people called Yoruba/Anago in Benin Republic and Ife tribe in Togo and very closely related to the Gaa-Adangba people of Accra region, Ghana.


*This is for intellectual discussion

BrownRoofRep:
There indigenous Igbo people in Kenya, China and India.
Read very well and pay me your tithe.