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There are indigenous Yoruba people in Benin Republic and Togo.

Read very well about them and thank me later.

BrownRoofRep:
It is now 'has their root'
There's no such thing like Yoloba head slammers in Ghana or Togo.
What we have in Benin is Egun people who are has warned you lots to stop calling them Yoloba.

This is Lagos landlord telling his tenant.

Do the results if you have serious doubts, I just helped a friend to Cross check if own Vs his 70 year old dad

The PDP and many of their non-Yoruba sympathizers refuse to learn from their mistakes.

The Igbo people are smart business men and women but appear not quite good in the politics of Nigeria.

It's a Yoruba phrase for 'Its enough'

Indestructible:
what is the meaning of O to ge?

So the personal task given to him is to yansh another politician's (possibly his opponent's) wife?

GuntersChain:
with all the single ladies, widows, divorcee and brothel, he had to settle with a married woman. It might be that's his personal task given to him.

Sir, is Tinubu the cause of your problems?

What





happened in Oyo South was a case of transferred aggression from Ajimobi to Buhari and a case of protest votes

ayomilore:
Play fair for where. There was a big gang up against him. It was in his senatorial District buhari lost heavily.
If APC had presented someone else it would have been a clear win for the person and buhari.
There is this belief that any election conducted on the same day always follow the same pattern
even teslim folarin that is almost dead politically won his senatorial District for buhari and all the rep that contested under his district won.
All the candidates that run for rep seat under Ajimobi lost to PDP candidates like their master.

Please go and sit down and stop misinforming people.

The Southwest gave Atiku more votes than the S/East and you are still casting the Southwest...you can NOT be satisfied.

Asshurbanipal:
This is what these afonjas don't know. Putting their hope on a party built on buhari personality alone. Without buhari any idioot will defeat apc. We igbos will not be bullied to join the bandwagon. Long term political calculation is more important than euphoria of the moment

You don't seems to get my points. I am not against the protest per see but the aims of the protest.

Anybody can protest but the purpose of the protests will be defeated if they don't consider the realities on ground.


The reality is to join hands with the major opposition party to defeat Tinubu's party, mere protests can't achieve anything.

The Government can't say Tinubu should not participate in politics because somepeople are protesting.

Xisnin:
Nigeria constitution gurantees freedom of assembly and protest.
It is not your business to tell people when it is okay to protest or not.

Then what's the essence of their protests? It's better they join hands with the PDP and start campaigning for Jimi Agbaje to win, anything else is a waste of time and energy.

The constitutional rights of Tinubu to join any political party or support a particular candidate can NOT be nullified by any protest.

Xisnin:
They are not asking Tinubu to do anything.
They just want to be left alone to protest in peace.

Tinubu is just a private citizen.He is neither the Governor nor a contestant.

What exactly do these protesters want?

1) That Tinubu should support the PDP candidate?
2) That Tinubu should not support his party's Candidate?
3) That Tinubu should not participate in the politics of Lagos State?

Sir, I am beginning to understand you better. Making informed decisions/statement based on intelligence is one area you have to work-on.

1) All the Nairalanders you referred to as 'you people' don't necessarily come from the same Geo-political zone, let alone they come from the South West.

2) Even, if we assume they are ALL from the Southwest, they are NOT upto 3,000 people.

There are millions of people in the South west that have never heard of Nairaland before, let alone be on this forum.

3) That a supposedly educated person in 2019 assumed that the discussions on Nairaland forum represent the position/opinions of the millions of people in the South West is most unfortunate.

SouthEastFacts:
CYou guys shouted 4+4 pass aboki but turn around to vote Atiku and when the results starts favouring Buhari you guys started insulting Ndi Igbo calling them names for insulting the same Atiku you guys voted massively for.

Even before the announcement of the official results you guys started shouted Osinbanjo/El Rufai.

Of all the people it is El Rufai?

You are guys are the problem of this country.

1) In democracy, every citizens vote based on his/her conscience. The concept of betrayal is inappropriate to describe electoral choices.

2) In Nigeria, political parties and not individuals or TRIBES contest elections.

If Buhari had contested on the platform of labour party or APGA, he would have lost.

3) All politics is local.There is a growing resentment against the APC in Osun and Oyo States due to the ways the APC State Governments are running the States ,thereby demarketing the party.

There are many diehard PDP members/supporters/fans in the S/west. There are indigenes of Osun/Oyo States who suffered the economic mismanagement of Aregbesola/Ajimobi administrations with transferred aggression against Buhari/APC and used the election to show their grievances.


Gov Ajimobi of Oyo State was defeated in the senatorial election and Aregbesola (a one time most beloved politician in Osun State) could not even contest to avoid electoral humiliation and the PDP eventually won his Ife-Ijeshsa senatorial district.

The sentiments that Osinbajo is on the ticket didn't appeal to well educated Yoruba people who are against the economic /political policies of the APC.

stephleena:
You didn't betray Easterners at all.. we weren't expecting anything from u lots. but we were so happily surprised when we saw the results from southwest it was really pleasant... PDP never expected it...

hehehehehe..u are only answerable to the Gambaris... they felt betrayed, southwest was their perceived stronghold, but lo and behold! they were shocked..

2023: Nyesom Wike/ Kwankwanso will win and defeat APC

Nyamuriflathead:
The only living Man in the south west hausa/fulanis owe a favor is Ahmed bola tinubu. We don't owe any other Yoruba man any favor. And we will not vote a pastor as president of NIGERIA . We don't want him to christianize Nigeria biko... Osibanjo is not popular in the North... Most peeps don't even know he's the VP here. Stop deceiving yourselves

Yorubas better get their acts right before 2023

Dear Nairalanders.
The 2019 Presidential election has come and gone, so let's live in harmony with one another.

It's surprising to see some ethnic e-warriors who started screaming on this forum since the results were officially announced that the Yorubas betrayed the Southern agenda/interest or that the Yorubas betrayed the S/east by voting for Buhari.

ANALYSIS OF THE RESULTS IN BOTH REGIONS.

SOUTHEAST
APC=403,968
PDP=1,693,485

SOUTHWEST
APC=2,036,450
PDP= 1,776,670

From the above analysis, even if we assume for the sake of their assumptions that Atiku is good and Buhari is evil, any fair minded and Objective analyst can see that the S/West gave Atiku/PDP greater votes than the S/East.

Sir, from most of your comments, it's obvious you have a deep seated resentments that's close to hatred for the Yorubas people.
I can't help you to overcome this problem but for the benefit of neutral observers who come to this site to read, I will respond to certain wrong assumptions in your earlier post.

1) Yoruba didn't betray anybody.The ways people like you use the word 'betray and betrayal' to explain purely political decisions completely change the meaning of those words.

2) You wrongly assume that tthe indivifual citizens and the Geo-political regions who voted for Atiku are patriotic Nigerians who want the best for the Country while those who voted for Buhari (represented by the S/West in your post) are evil people who are hell bent on destroying the country for the sake of power.



This a very dangerous fallacy.

3) Results of the 2019 Presidential election

SOUTHEAST
APC=403,968
PDP=1,693,485

SOUTHWEST
APC=2,036,450
PDP= 1,776,670

From the above analysis, even if we assume for the sake of your assumptions that Atiku is good and Buhari is evil, you can see that the S/West gave Atiku/PDP greater votes than the S/East.

SouthEastFacts:
Yes it is. If you are a data analyst you would have known that Nairaland holds sufficient amount of data to draw reasonable inference from.

Nairaland gives people anonymous cover to show their true self but in real life they tend to hide that. Believe it or not, an average yoruba man has the same perception about the Ndi Igbo like the ones online but they are too coward to show it.


I can never believe the North is the problem of this country because they are not. They know what they want and have been going all-out for that.

What does Yorubas want? Restructuring just like every people from the south and for the first time, a president openly campaigned on that and signed documents that he would.

But the Yoruba betrayed a movement they originated and championed for an imaginary presidency that will never happen.

We know who is fueling the herdsmen crisis in the North, yet of all the good politicians from the North it is El Rufai that the South wants on their ticket in 2023.

The problem of the Nigeria is SW cowardice. Those people as a result of their geographical location, population and literacy should be providing leadership for the South like the NW is doing in the North holding it together but absconded from their rightful position allowing SE/SS to bear the burden of Southern Unity.

The problem of the South and Nigeria is SOUTH WEST.

I don't have any power to see the future but one thing I know is that a SW 2023 can never happen as long as the West continue to behave as if they are more Northern than Southern.

Sir, you seems to

1) Strongly believe what happens on Nairaland is an exact replica of political realities.

2) Strongly believe that the North is the problem of Nigeria or substantial improvement can only be achieved if people from certain Geo-political zones become the president.

3) have an exaggerated power to see the future and determine what can happen (a grandiose delision).

SouthEastFacts:
Stop behaving as if you are new to Nairaland. You brothers openly taunt us with that here on Nairaland and Twitter.

2023, We will see how your 265k marginal votes will return my guy Osinbanjo as President. I love that guy and many of Ndi Igbo secretly admire him.

But a lot of yorubas are making it difficult for him. Hate Ndi Igbo or not, the truth is we are loyal to a fault. If we stand with you, we rather sink with you than betray you and again, we have the BLOC vote in the South.

SW gave Buhari a win of 265k while Anambra gave Atiku over 500k. This means if the election had held only in Lagos, Ogun, Ekiti, Ondo, Oyo, Osun and Anambra and we voted the way we all did, Atiku would have win with over 250k votes, a landslide, just because of a bloc vote from one State.

Like I said before, most of us like Osinbanjo and Ndi Igbo will never betray Southern interest because of aboki unless our sophisticated brothers give us no choice.

The SE/SS controls PDP national structure while the North controls APC's. If we rally behind Osinbanjo and insist on a Southern PDP ticket and then field a weak ticket, Osinbanjo will climb to power. This will help us take back the control of the country from the North and save us all from a potential Northern 16 years.

SE/SS are both adventurous and I am sure they can do that just for the South, but can SW do this for the south?

NEVER!!!

This guy have a seriou issue in his heart...Kpele, you will get well laslas


Who is the SW that told you that and when?

SouthEastFacts:
It is not inferiority complex. It is being ruthlessly strategic.

The SW openly told us that they don't need our support for their Presidency in 2023 that they are banking on Northern votes believing PDP will field a Southern candidate.

Even if PDP zones the ticket to us, we will zone it back to the North. It is 4+4+4+4 until yorubas get sense.

North-Igbo alliance work sometimes but may not work ALL the times.

Ethnic consideration is NOT the only factor that determine victory in an election.

In1959/60: Tafawa Balewa/Nnamdi Azikiwe
In 1979: Sheu Shagari/Alex Ekwueme

In 1993: Bashir Tofa/Sylvester Ugoh
In 2019: Abubakar Atiku/ Peter Obi.


Take political contests as a sport: You win sometimes, you lose sometimes.

Enshrew bitterness.

SouthEastFacts:
The North is too lusty for power. Oga, don't deceive yourself.


You don't know the North.

Do you know the North presented the same Atiku they are calling thief today as their consensus candidate against GEJ.

North is all about North.

God is in-charge of the future and why upsurping the power of God to determine Osinbajo's future?

PaChukwudi44:
No allow them to fool themselves.The only condition upon which osibanjo will smell that seat will be if Buhari dies in power

Who are the 'WE' you keep referring to?

SouthEastFacts:
Buhari raised his own two hands himself yet he resorted to rigging to get back to power.

We don't care who APC field, we are fielding a Northerner candidate in 2023-2031.

Nothing for South till 2031.

Eeyah, kpele... it's well in Jesus Name

SouthEastFacts:
We don't care who. We will vote for a goat as far as he is from the North.

If the goat doesn't have money, I will volunteer to serve in a fund raising campaign for the goat. We will use it to buy ticket.

I am for Next Level. Sai Baba

Comments like this by the new generation of PDP supporters/Fans make it difficult for many Northerners to rally round and support your candidate.

Jayson1:
Dear Amarabae,

Didn't it strike you as a surprise that some states ravaged by Boko Haram and extreme poverty could come out in their numbers to vote a lifeless stick who plunged them into that mess?

Before you condemn Atiku, always remember that something is not right with the northerners.

Please, remind of the full meaning of N power?

Amarabae:
The N power was a master stroke by PMB, beneficiaries and their relatives stood by Buhari in the SE/SS

This is misleading.

1) ATIKU is a fulfude speaking Fulani man from Adamawa.

2) Buhari is only 25% Fulani

3) IBB is a Gwari/Nupe man, Abacha was a Kanuri and Abdulsami is Gwari/Hausa.

4) ONLY Murtalar Muhammed and Shagari can be described as true Fulani men

TruthinAction:
You don't understand the politics of the North. Atiku is not a Fulani man. The Fulani are the ones who conquered the Hausas and established emirates. So, how will they allow a conquered person to rule over them? The problem with us in the south is that we see the Hausas and the Fulanis as one. The common denominator is that most of them are all Muslims. But when it comes to leadership, the Fulanis are in control. Virtually every northerner that has ever ruled Nigeria are all Fulani except Gowon who is from the middle belt.

Where is this Murphy getting the money to be sharing #1000 recharge cards to unknown persons who only claim to support Buhari/APC?

kadree:
Though I couldn't receive even after several reminders but I must appreciate your kind gesture.

God blessings on you even more.

Thanks again.

You've done well.

You seem to have this funny idea that each region must respond to political issues in the same or similar ways.
The Southwest is different from the South East.



Sir/Ma, why is it difficult for you to pass your comments without insults or personal attacks?.

MYHUBBY:
see this itinerant teacher that want to lecture his kid on politics


see kid, politics is about self interest. for a whole tribe to leave secession struggle because of ordinary VP you think is the love of country they've at heart?


despite PDP did not do anything for them. goto abia state and other PDP govern states in east, you will feel sorry for them yet they're still loyal, why because they believe in the party despite their inhumane governance


so your assertion that pmb should be maltreated at the poll because of the state Governor woeful performance despite pmb/FG releasing two times bailout for them is a plain ignorant. in fact I ought not to respond to you again because you're just one neophyte that know nothing

I for once don't like engaging people who can't discuss without being rude/insultive(especially because of political office holders who don't even know them).


1) In Nigeria, political parties and NOT individuals contest elections.
Many Senators and Reps especially in the North were elected because they contested on the platform of Buhari's party.

2) If some politicians can get votes because they belong to Buhari's party, Buhari too can lose votes because he belongs to Aregbesola's or Ajimobi's party.


3) As an indigene, resident and a stakeholder in Osun, I told you the bitter truth that the hatred for APC harboured by some of the electorate is because of Aregbesola's administration and you started throwing tantrums.

MYHUBBY:
do I give a fvck if you get angry or not?


how does that affect the presidency I talked about in the post you ignorantly quote?



should Atiku suffered the underperformance of PDP governors or what nonsense are you splitting?


do you know Buhari gave out bailout to many states regardless of their party which rarely happened in the history of Nigeria


so you've no point with your cockk and bull story

I easily get irritated by this kind of posts. We have APC Governors who mismanaged the ecomomies of their Ststes like Ex-Gov Aregbesola, demarketing APC in the process.

My mother-in-law and many other elder citizens of Osun State worked meritoriously for the State Government for 35years and retired in 2012 but the State's Government refused to pay them their grauities and their children irregularly paid half salaries for over 30months and you expect them to be voting for APC for the simple sentiments that our son is the VP or our zone may succeed Buhari. Where is that done?

Although I am not a PDP's fan but I want APC to lose some seats( Osun West,Osun East, Obokun/Ori-Ade Federal constituency) in Osun as a lesson that you can't take our people for a ride.

MYHUBBY:
southwest is a big disappointment. I agree for the votes they gave gej/PDP then because of the Lagos/Ibadan expressway he started then but why play ignorant to Buhari achievement in west



ever since democracy came to Nigeria, Buhari is the only president to have perform well in west in terms of development. I'm highly disappointed in west


what does Atiku/OBJ did for west during their wasted Years? Lagos/Ibadan expressway was grounded, ikorodu/sagamu road was in a sorry case, they withheld Lagos state allocation and some people still found it comfortable to vote for Atiku


if not for North love and commitment and acknowledging Buhari achievement this thief would have been winning him with a landslide



I'm very disappointed in west

Ofe Nmannu is not necessarily a bad term.
My ex-Igbo GF used to refer to me as such too (may be teasing me) and the girl really loved me but she has some health challenges that didn't make our relationship to work out.

Kagawa10:
Yes. It makes me aware of you Ibos and why I should be ever conscious about you. My friend at uniben was always calling me ofe nmmanu which I thought was a lovely nick name until I found out it was a derogatory name meant for the Yorubas. Nothing you Ibo does seem to amaze me anymore. You're always hateful and clannish unnecessarily.

You can't blame me for not trusting the Ibos when I've been burnt many times. I have a marshmallow heart though and if I find an Ibo friend worthy of such trust again, my heart is always open but I'm ever conscious.

The Yorubas are more educated and enlightened.
It's not easy to have a highly monolithic political views in the Southwest, besides transferred aggression against APC due to the maladministrations of our
Governors caused protest votes in favour of the PDP.

Many people in Osun State HATE Aregbesola and the APC

MYHUBBY:
Yoruba play too much of liberal politics a lots. the IBO here were telling them to get Nigeria working again, yet they were convincing themselves not to abandoned their son obi


if Hausa play Yoruba type of politics, Buhari would have loose this election. PDP humiliated and grounded development in west and Nigeria as a whole. Buhari just came in going to 4yrs he had done wonders


Yoruba need to sit tight and stop this liberal politics. Tinubu is still nursing is liberal politics in Lagos till date with those nyanmiri frustrating political stand of Lagos state

The weather is cloudy here in Oshogbo, Osun State.
People are going out to their various polling units...it's mixed reaction here.

Some are Atikulating and some are die hard APC fans