₦airaland Forum

One thing I find amusing is that you agbados are quick to throw insults. But when the favour is returned you will start crying like babies and calling everyone fascists. It's quite amusing honestly.

Slurity:
You are daft to ask that senseless question. have you ever see a female bears Ahmed or Adekunle in your entire life or in history? Moreover, show us the female Adekunle Bola Tinubu

There was only Bola Tinubu that attended the school at the time, and she is female. So, which of the Chicago school did the male go to? That's the main issue in court.

OkCornel:
I believe in miracles but, but...

How is Bola Adekunle Tinubu (Female) same as Bola Ahmed Tinubu (Male)?

Any explanation for this?

Atiku is no longer relevant. But why is his reaction paining you? Na you dem dey congratulate?

Larryndelaw:
No wi know Obi is sick. Can't he. See Atiku been silent. Must Obi react to everything.

You started by saying APC do not need to prove anything, but ended with so many things they need to prove. That's a massive heap of contradiction.

senatordave1:
Apc need not prove anything but inorder to bury obi,they will simply call presiding officers and collation officers that will attest to upload.
Secondly,they will provide hardcopies of 18000 unit results and also show that obi didn't have agents in most of them.
They will show that inec can have a glitch locally.
They will show that tinubu won in all result copies.
The nitda dg will reject the staff that came.aws will be called to reject their so called staff

It seems you've not been following. Obi has submitted all the facts. It's now left for INEC to prove that those facts are not admissible. What do you think they have been objecting to since last week?

senatordave1:
Unfortunately,it doesn't apply in the court.court is all about facts and law and obi hasn't proven if there was irregularities or if he won and he has just tomorrow

Don't mind him. They don't know a witness usually passes through grilling from from LP even before standing in court. Such a dull comment.

XY23:
Lol. This one has still not gotten what PO is trying to prove through this particular prayer. If you were a witness you would flop. So, he should have known and said PDP won the LG in an election whose process is being interrogated? You obviously don't know what plausible deniability means and how he can affect a witness locus standi

Comrade abed take it easy on them.

NairalandGossip:
Werey

So why are the Respondent objecting it from all angle?

I know you are not a lawyer but you can use "common sense", everyone has that even Tinubu

Why is this not on front page yet, considering the number of viewers already here?

So many people returned when Obasanjo entered office. If Nigeria fixes it's power issues, medical facilities, roads, and corruption, what will you be looking for in Europe and US where the gender transition issues are getting quite loud?

Sunofgod:
Forgive me Sir....but you are wrong. People have no intention of returning. Foreign countries benefit from the taxes these people pay and use the money to better their society.....only recently Ghana realised they no longer had enough nurses for their own population because of Japa syndrome.

Also anything Bill Gates says is good.....know that it's bad for Africans.

So many Africans are cleaning old Oyibo people's Ynash and paying them tax for the privilege.

Your replies have been full of insults and vile words against a particular person and his supporters. You are the emotional one here, but claim every other person is emotional.

Saying this election is the best we have had for over 2 decades is like repeating what the APC media propaganda has been selling to their supporters.

It's obvious I'm wasting my time with someone that cannot hold a constructive conversation. I'm out!

Wize1:
Now you are disguising . Good we are getting somewhere. The last election was not all you mentioned just because one man who came third is sponsoring propaganda for mind control of his gullible followers, lieing unprovoked while attacking & discrediting every institution of Govt once things don’t go his way. Yes there is room for improvement, but was the best election we have had in the last 25 years— in my opinion. A new party usurped the major opposition, produced several legislators in the process. Yet you wan to rubbish every other person’s win just because you lost.m your own pursuit. It’s dubious, selfish and narcissistic. The court is the only place to prove your case, not hear-say, beer parlour rumour or emotions. Your lord, Obi knows this, but has bungled the case due to his usual all talk- no substance, tackiness and lack of preparation that has described his career since his days as Gov. That’s why he has looked for a new narrative, and is already weaponising the fickle emotion of you Obedients to start another victimhood meltdown. Be smart! You are being played by a master schemer.

If you increase it to even 100,000 it will only increase inflation, eventually making the money worthless. The best way is to increase productivity. But I guess Tinubu is taking his Lagos model, forgetting that so many states cannot survive when they are taxed heavily.

Jking20:
This is the more reason why the President should allow increment of Civil Servants minimum wage. The average Nigerians are going through alot...

Obasanjo is the root cause of this decay honestly. He was supposed to set the tone, but failed woefully.

Now he can't even offer any advice without these scavengers dishing him insults for the bad role he played.

abibox02:
Government should cut down cost of governance, I blame OBJ for selling the legislative quarter to legislature as inducement to support his 3rd term agenda. Since then, Tax payers money are being used to pay for the luxurious lifestyle of the NASS every year, we have not know their car, feeding, newspaper etc. budget

Your full-page reply shows you did not understand a thing about what I said. Again, it's not about Obi, Atiku, and Tinubu.

My concern is the way forward, and obviously Tinubu does not represent the way forward. It should be very clear to any sensible person that that the last election was severely marred and flawed, just like the previous ones. Nigeria is not ready yet.

Wize1:
“Hatred” , “Victim”, bla bla bla. These are the only words you guys use once anyone does not join in your emotional blackmail rollercoaster. The poster I replied already made it about your demi- god just like everyone of your fellow obidients screaming “Atiku knows he didn’t win” even without understanding the thread. But of course you’ll gladly ignore that in your usual victimhood and dishonesty. Your obviously dubious manipulator of a saint never had a case to begin with. You can cry all you want, your Obi is a pathological liar who is not different from all the other politicians you are placing him above. “INEC didn’t give him documents to nail them” ? Just hear yourselves. Always scheming and blaming and then result to petulant tirades when they beat you to your game. For a guy who boasted just weeks ago, he had evidence and will prove to everyone how we won the entire election. Only to result to manufacturing witnesses on the fly, doctoring evidence, etc. if you seek a position, you work, form alliances and bid your time, not reality to dark arts of character assassination of your opponents, weaponised the emotional imbalance and ignorance of a mob, cyber-bullying, propaganda and lies. It didn’t work then, it won’t work now in case you are not paying attention. You are not victims, you are just sore schemers who lost an election. Incompetent lots

The level of technology we have now shows that the experts have not done enough to explore the possibility of a much stronger tracking system that can work in such environment.

As I said earlier, the latest development will spore them to do so, considering the calibre of victims involved.

maasoap:
It is dangerous to go in the air, high altitude. But it is more dangerous to go below sea surface. Just anything and everything can be crushed under such a massive pressure should the system malfunction, including "proper and sophisticated" tracking device.

What he means is that the agency will also be corrupt just like INEC. The problem is not INEC, but the entire Nigeria's corrupt system.

YouandiAllofus:
The agency, if created, will not be playing a defensive part along with any respondents just like the apc and inec are currently putting up a collaborative defensive efforts like 5 & 6 against petitions.

This particular case is about PDP and Atiku's case but you still managed to bring Obi into it. It shows your level of hatred. By the way, why has INEC refused to bring documents they used in declaring Tinubu the winner?

You all still think this is all about personal interests until the tables turn. In the past it was Obasanjo doing all the irregularities. Now he doesn't even have mouth to correct anyone because he was guilty of these same things when he was in power.

It's now Tinubu's turn after Buhari. After Tinubu, someone else will continue in the same manner, and Nigeria will keep moving in circles.

Politicians are doing all these, but people like you keep encouraging them, tagging everyone emotional.

The good thing is, we are all in it together.

Wize1:
Simply because they are co-defendants in the case— as your lord and master joined them in the suit. The same way INEC defended the results that declared Adeleke winner in Osun against the APC. Never mind that, you can keep on being getting emotionally manipulated—- it’s the price to pay for lack of perspective. Obi has most of you where he wants you and will milk the herd ignorance with ruthless narcissistic expertise. He did not and is not winning anything, anywhere against anyone with this empty charade of his. He made so much mouth yet fumbled a basic case. As usual it’s everyone else’s fault not his nor the tactlessness of his legal team. The next thing for him to do is unleash his usual character assassination onslaught against the judges, and their families. You and other zealots will get riled up per usual, claim victims, run with another narrative for the next few weeks, but will only end in wailing and gnashing of teeth. Nothing else.

You don't even understand the statement and you are here capping. It means INEC is acting like an opponent instead of a referee. It's already an indictment on INEC.

SangoOlukosoOba:
“ According to him, getting documents from INEC is like asking your opponents for weapons.”


🤣🤣🤣🤣


So you knew all this and still went ahead!


Someone should extend this communication to Peter’s lawyers, maybe they will learn one or two.


Going against the very powers that make be!

Some humans are just jokers, if humans were God, I would have created most as cat fish.

They can only be good with seasoning and orange juice.

Some people fail to understand how deep the ocean is.

Fiyin007:
Expert divers to 12,000 feet of water

Exactly. Since a wealthy person is now involved. I wonder why they have not developed a sophisticated tracking system for such monumental underwater adventure. Imagine going over 3000 feet under water without a proper tracking device.

Akalia:
This incident will pave the way for the creation of a technology that will aid in tracking such a vessel in cases like this in the future.

She specifically stated that a glitch can occur anytime, but it never happened on 25 Feb. I'm following this case from two different people in the court.

anonymous1759:
If glitches can happen anytime feb 25th Is not exceptional that’s the crux of the matter only Amazon itself can prove that glitches didn’t happen on the 25th

She said a glitch is possible at anytime, but it never occurred on 25 Feb

senatordave1:
And from her testimony,she agreed that there could have been a glitch from inec server internally without AWS knowing.
Again,she's not the maker of her report and cannot testify for it

Exactly. That is why the witness is there.

ba7man:
Ehn, you can't be using mouth to say it online and in court and they'll accept it like you guys accept any propaganda that suits your sentiments.

You have to provide proof before it is accepted as an established fact.

Truly, it's either you're not following this case or you are not paying attention. She came to court yesterday with proof showing no glitch occured on the AWS site, as previously claimed by INEC. That is why the INEC lawyers are cross-examining her to try and flag down the witness and her proof.

senatordave1:
They haven't proven anything.she admitted that the glitch could have happened locally on inec end without AWS knowing

And they have proved. Now, it's left for INEC to prove there was a glitch. The actual fireworks will start when LP lawyers start cross-examining INEC witnesses. You guys still don't know how the court works ehh?

senatordave1:
It is on the place of lp to prove there was no glitch.

Yes, that is general knowledge. The most important thing is that the glitch didn't happen on election period. Are you guys following this court case at all?

senatordave1:
Wow,that means glitch can happen at any time

She tendered her employment later from Amazon yesterday. Please try and follow the case if you want to reply intelligently.

Confirmedzombie:
The health status she tendered was downloaded from Amazon site.

Court wont accept such except it is directly from Amazon, either signed or sealed.

She is a third party. She testified not having Amazon ID Card or Amazon employment letter.

Una go get sense by force

You don't know better than the INEC lawyers cross-examining her. She is already standing there as a witness and the court has admitted her status.

seanfer:
On whose authority is the witness in court? She affirmed the lawyers question by saying she is not in court on behalf of AWS but as an Expert.
Her witness submission portray her as a representative of AWS. That's double standard and that can go against the outcome of the case....

Are you sure you understand what you are saying? Are you a SAN or do you know better than those in court?

senatordave1:
Oga,you cannot testify for an organization on your own volition.it must be official,the court is an official place

That is how these APC people behave. They believe anyone that is supporting Obi is Igbo. Like, everyone should have supported BAT? Then what is democracy then? I thought Tinubu will wipe off the nepotism his predecessor played, but I guess I'm wrong.

Elanqy:
I am not Igbo

Because they didn't vote Tinubu? You mean all regions should have voted Tinubu in a democracy? But it's okay to take resources from a certain region for the entire nation right?

I love what is happening. This APC govt is unknowingly uniting the SE and even empowering them.

allthingsgood:
SE dont deserve anything....my opinion

They have presented boxes of raw data covering 18 states. These include data from polling units, wards, local government, and state. The question now is, what is the weight of the data and it's admissibility by the judges? Let's see how the case unfolds in the next few days.

aswani:
Another dissapointing day in the annals of the Naija legal system. Two points:

1) Yet again, LP lawyers are calling audibles by not giving the others enough time to read documents and be aware of witnesses. I can understand the Judges at the Tribunal tolerating this once or twice, considering the importance of what is at hand, but this is now becoming a daily occurrence.

A deliberate attempt to get the case rightfully thrown out and give them an opportunity to act hard done by. Shameful to say the least.

2) LP brought in an expert to tell us there were no recorded outages during a certain period, something any teenager with an interest in computers could have sent them a link to.

More needless grandstanding a là wheeling HDTV's into the court for something they could have documented in a Youtube link or put on a Pen drive.

Back to the expert, a shame they did not make LP lawyers aware that, the Cloud centres might be up, but individual virtual servers could be overloaded and consequently shut itself down as might conceivably might have happened in this case.

INEC and their consultants clearly didn't do any stress testing or if they did was woefully inadequate. They should have allocated times for each state PU's to be uploaded and then further times for those that missed their slot for whatever reason.

Also the use of sharding or partitioning technologies might have helped.

Regardless of the incompetence of INEC and their technology partners in this matter, I honestly cannot see how LP and Peter Obi can expect to overturn the results of the elections in their favour following the "evidence" path they have so far.

They needed enough raw data, which would have shown numerical differences between what INEC used to determine the victor, to present to the court which they clearly don't have.

How about cutting down bureaucracy and govt expenses? When will they do that one?

Uten9z:
Which kind wahala be this
Same totopic Same ans👇🏼
The truth about this is that the future gain is better than the sacrifice we have to make as a country now.

We quickly compare this country with china on how years back china was backward that even Nigerias currency was far better but we don't want to knw the sacrifice they made or undergo such to become the words leading economy one day. We have zero down from fastest developing country to what we are now.

Believe me even closing the borders by Former PMB was not a wrong idia but the system didn't make plans + our greedy marketers and marchants men who countr the prices of market commudity perceive that new actors will arise from the result and they will be face out so instead they resulted to frustrating the citizens with highest impact on the poor masses with unscrupulous rise in prices of livelihood.

It's not funny for me especially and I didn't vote in this government but a right thing is right to associate with, I am not finding it any funny but I believe there are some bricks that we need to drop in this country if we need to move forward and better and it dosnt matter who does that.

One thing obvious is that the prices of community normally even from a kilometer apart varies in Nigeria (no control) and Nigeria still patronize them in there variations and never complain even with the wide margins weather they knw or not in as far as they need it but then I observe that the gap and margins is now closing up considerably, I can speculate by a more than 75%.
I mean people that extort other people are now forced to close up, they cannot longer practice their hideous crimes of over bloating their market prices again because no one is buying and to keep business they are have to almost harmonize their commodity prices with the regular because of the hike of price from increase of subsidy most likely.

By the way cutting down means of person living is the solution to cope now till things set.

I trust the government to do something too just like GEJ did by supplying Elrufai Buses, and with other emoluments expecially for government staffs and citizenry.

But if una decision is that we stay as we deh tor no qualms, as the common Nigerian man slugan "Na so e bi tei tai, nothing go work for this country".
Or we go support and join jagaban so that the small salary we deh earn no go stiln stop. Abi una no no say the system don deh cripple? We need a different approach to fit into the fast evolving world economy with too much loan to bare for as long as possible.

Unless we are set to end this country or frustrate this government by making sure it doesn't deliver (which we all go sufferam) we need dialogue on possible outcome forward.

My pick