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Politics / Re: Suddenly Goodluck Jonathan Is A Devil And Ibb/atiku/buhari Are Now Saints! by paddylo1(m): 11:55pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
@Gbawe If what u write above is what u truely believe fine. . .but why not advocate for ribadu to join the PDP,instead of a regional sectional party like AC For me i truely believe the PDP is what Nigeria needs for stability we cant afford,these regional ethnic parties like AC,ANNPP,APGA and co and the best way to make the PDP better is for it to co-opt any performing Governor into its ranks so i would like fashola to join PDP,peter obi in anambra to join,mimiko in ondo to join and so on. . that way PDP will gradually be reformed Ribadu can never win an election in Nigeria,on the platform of a regional party like AC |
Religion / Re: Christian Student Disrupts Jumuat Service At UI by paddylo1(m): 11:47pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
A lot of u guys on here dont think straight. . so freaking what. . . .a christian said allah is fake. . of course allah is fake. . .however,what u should know is that jesus too is also fake and man made now if u are a muslim and believe in your allah. . if i tell u its fake,u should be able to laugh in my face and move on. . or better yet come and try to convert me to your fake allah and the same thing goes for christians. . . As for this girl. . is everyone on nairaland now mad? she should be arrested,expelled etc. . FOR WHAT? The useless imam should invite her back and try and convert her. . if he cant,then he should wish her well whats up with this idea that u can fight for your fake allah or god or whatever why not let the allah,take care of things. .if he exists. . . |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 10:16pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
Paddy lo, I am for true federalism, where there is a structure of how money should be shared from the federation account. We already have that structure in place and I detest spending of money by executive dictatorship. Yes the money should be shared without with holding/diverting any amount until the sharing or spending formula is revised and backed by law. Anything short of that is criminal and dictatorship. In essence share the remaining 460million in the ECA and close the account,and keep sharing any excess oil money to useless kleptomaniac Governors. . .got u. . u didnt need to type all that I am hoping Gbawe will come and state where exactly he stands. . .at least with u we now know |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 9:19pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
Beaf, our unique National situation is unbearable corruption that is real and not imagined . You , as well as most other Nigerians , know that. Many economist , if they then look at Nigeria's situation , may rightly feel the SWF is here at the wrong time since there is a real danger that it can , and most likely , will be exploited by corruption. can u pls read the article i posted above and tell me what u make of it. . .esp the quote below. . . and use your brain to see that the status quo is only to the benefit of the Governors [size=15pt]The fund, which Aganga added "should be governed by a robust corporate governance structure in line with the global best practices" is expected to serve three main purposes: "Savings for future generations, economic development of critical infrastructure and economic stabilisation". However, this did not go down well with the governors who the source said wants the excess account to be left out of the project while other sources are looked at. [/size] |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 8:58pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
^^ These are the kind of clueless useless Governors Jonathan has to deal with. . .and u people come here talking rubbish If these Governors had vision wouldnt they have agreed to set up the SWF by now?. . .instead they want to keep the ECA intact so they can keep chopping It is obvious that this ECA the way it is is of more benefit to Governors than to the federal GOVT. . . . if u set up a SWF. . all these sharing of money will stop |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 8:54pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
[size=14pt]Fed Govt, governors disagree on sovereign fund[/size] 16/06/2010 There was disagreement yesterday between the Federal Government and governors on the funding of the proposed Sovereign Wealth Fund (SWF). It was at the National Economic Council meeting. At the end of the disagreement, a committee under the leadership of the Finance Minister was put in place to iron out grey areas and come up with acceptable modalities for the funding. Other members of the committee that has two weeks to turn in its report include the Chairman of the Governors Forum, Governor Bukola Saraki of Kwara, six other governors representing each of the six geographical zones. [size=14pt]Nigeria is the only member of the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) that is yet to operate such fund. Countries such as Chile; Russia; Iran; Oman; Kuwait; United Arab Emirates (UAE); Libya; Singapore; Malaysia; Algeria and Saudi Arabia have established SWF, using proceeds from their oil and gas surpluses.[/size] [size=15pt]Finance Minister Olusegun Aganga, according to a source at the meeting suggested the excess crude account (ECA) as the initial source of funding. But the governors rejected it. They wanted other source to be explored.[/size] [size=16pt]Aganga, according to the source argued that by the time the fund comes on stream, it will among other things reduce the country’s vulnerability to significant external shocks resulting from global oil price fluctuation; ensure intergenerational equity; support domestic efforts by investing in critical infrastructure and serve as catalyst for attracting additional local and foreign investment. It would also signal a positive effect to external investors in terms of enhanced macroeconomic framework, with associated positive impact on Nigeria’s sovereign credit rating and cost of investment capital. The fund, which Aganga added "should be governed by a robust corporate governance structure in line with the global best practices" is expected to serve three main purposes: "Savings for future generations, economic development of critical infrastructure and economic stabilisation".[/size] [size=14pt]However, this did not go down well with the governors who the source said wants the excess account to be left out of the project while other sources are looked at.[/size] Confirming the disagreement, Aganga said the Council is faced with the challenge of funding, where it will come from; adding that the idea is that it should not be tied to the excess crude account. This, the source said was after his initial proposal was rejected by the governors. Briefing reporters at the end of the meeting, Aganga alongside Benue State Governor Gabriel Suswam, Godswill Akpabio of Akwa Ibom and Minister of National Planning, Dr. Shamusideen Usman said the committee has been given two weeks to consider all other possibilities. http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/articles/50010/1/Fed-Govt-governors-disagree-on-sovereign-fund---/Page1.html |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 8:49pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
Is it easier to push for a new law to back a new account or to create a law to give force to an existing account, which already has a structure ? Who says that we need to create an account for investment purposes anyway ? The ECA has no structure,theres no structure on how and when it can be shared. . .so in essence u need a new law with clearly defined spelt out ways in which the money is to be invested,how it can be withdrawn and so on I disagree with u. . the investment is for unborn generations and for when the oil money will finish. . .whats the point of eating everything today,what about future generation of Nigerians. , are u so selfish that u dont understand that if this fund had been set up in 1980 like other OPEC countries did we would not be in this situation today. . .? do u know what it means to earn 8% compounded per yr on your money?. . .in less than 10yrs u double that money,and u are here advoctaing we chop it all today. . . .How do u think warren buffet accummulated his billions?. . definately not by chopping it all in the present Is it not laughable that you would on one hand say that ECA is not backed by law (which I agree with) and on the other hand try to justify the withdrawal of money from that account for the purpose of funding an account that is not yet in existence ? An account which might not make it past the first hearing at the houses of assembly. The tail does not wag the dog neither does the cart drive the horse. What's the hurry ? Why not wait until the law backing SWF come into force before withdrawing money to fund the SWF ? You accept that the money rightly belongs to the federating units, but you advocate the spending/with holding of that money by executive fiat/dictatorship. I believe the correct term for what happened is that the $1billion has been quarantined to prevent it being shared in the near future the very fact that the ECA has no basis in law makes it necessary to quarantine this $1billion. . .until the SWF fund is set up,or else in 6months the greedy Governors will be back demanding that it too be shared. . . .and then what?. . . .if 1 single local GOVT takes u to court u are bound to loose as the constitution does not recognize ECA. . . you have to state what exactly u are for. . stop arguing all over the place. . i have stated that i want this SWF set up to checkmate these governors where exactly do u stand?. . .If u dont want the SWF created,then u must accept that the money must be shared,since the ECa is an illegal account. . .u cant have it both ways If the purpose of the SWF was to able to fund federal investments in companies like google, barclays, et al; Some of us would rather see any excess money invested in our downstream economy, funding local projects and acquiring stakes in local technological industries who are not able to expand their business due to funds, but are keen to exchange a stake in their companies for funds. Furthermore, who says that those foreign companies might not go burst soon after the investments ? The SWF provides for a local component that will invest a percentage of it in Nigeria,as well as a foreign component that will invest overseas u cant keep all your eggs in one basket. . .Norway,singapore,UAE,Botswana and lots of others all have SWF. . dont act like its a novel idea. . . .cause frankly its a shame we are the only OPEC country without one. . and u presume that it is not an aberration |
Politics / Re: Nigeria Disburses $4.7 Bln To Govt, Plans Wealth Fund by paddylo1(m): 7:18pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
If we hear say CBN Governor says, is he a fake economic analyst? The very same article u are quoting has this quote from the CBN Governor below Sanusi, at the end of MPC meeting in Abuja, on Monday, said the drop in external reserves to $37.63 billion on June 23 was as a result of the shortfall of $25 billion in the nation’s foreign exchange earnings in 2009. It is obvious the article is full of wrong data. . i have showed u the CBN public website,where u can get up to date information as at this august External reserves are not hidden,its public knowledge on most CBN websites. . . South Africas reserves are worth about $37billion dollars also. . .so its not bad for Nigeria |
Politics / Re: Nigeria Disburses $4.7 Bln To Govt, Plans Wealth Fund by paddylo1(m): 7:08pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
@Kobojunkie Another quote from your article u posted on here. . it is apparent u dont even read what u post,u just choose to copy,paste and spam the thread. . it clearly tells u the CBN external reserves are at $39.8billion on may,2010. . .again your article not mine. . it will do u good to read an article, before u post. . . [size=14pt]Nigeria’s foreign reserves dropped to $39.8 billion on 19 May, 2010 from $41.1 billion a month earlier, the Central Bank of Nigeria said on 21 May. Reserves declined from a high of $58.3 billion in March 2008 as crude oil prices fell.[/size] |
Politics / Re: Nigeria Disburses $4.7 Bln To Govt, Plans Wealth Fund by paddylo1(m): 6:59pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
@Kobojunkie Quote from the article u posted. . . [size=14pt]Sanusi, at the end of MPC meeting in Abuja, on Monday, said the drop in external reserves to $37.63 billion on June 23 was as a result of the shortfall of $25 billion in the nation’s foreign exchange earnings in 2009.[/size] |
Politics / Re: Nigeria Disburses $4.7 Bln To Govt, Plans Wealth Fund by paddylo1(m): 6:56pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
How sure are you that we still have $40 billion in our reserves? Last check, it was down to about $9 billion or so. Nigerias external reserves are currently at $38billion dollars. . .i dont know where u get your fake news from. . but go to the CBN website below and check it for yourself. . .am guessing the last check u are referring to was done by the person who wrote the clueless article u posted which is full of false data Its public knowledge www.cenbank.org |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 2:42pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
[b]@Gbawe That article u posted is basically calling for what u are railing against on here It seems u dont know where u stand. . . The article calls for the money to be spent not saved. . .well the money is being spent now,so u should be happy The man in the articlee says he doesnt want centralization of Nigerian economy.well that is why the money is shared among all 3 tiers of GOVT to spend as they please. . . . He wants all oil money spent today,with no future savings/investment for the generations unborn dude is asking for small GOVT on one hand,but at the same time asking GOVT to dream big and spend oil money. . probably on white elephant projects that will lead to nowhere what a clueless person u choose to quote Finally the article specifically states that a SWF is better than the ECA. . but u want to ditch the SWF and keep the ECA,so u quote an article that wants to ditch both and instead spend the whole money today,to support your false claim that Jonathan is spending the whole money today. . phew. . .quite convoluted logic by u [/b] |
Politics / Re: Okigbo Report: Fg Considers Action Against Babangida by paddylo1(m): 1:49pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
@marcus1234 lol thats true. . .and whats with the american flag?. . .funny ppl dey this nairaland sha |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 1:30pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
If their is money in the Coffers is that Proof that OBJ did not loot profigately ? Yes it is proof,because u made the absurd claim that OBJ looted all that can be looted. .yet this same OBJ left behind $20billion in Excess crude plus another $58BILLION in Central bank reserves. . . It is not me alone doing the comparison . It is local and International economic experts. Their is no need for the setting up of the SWF ,in the opinion of many experts, if the correct 'tweaks' can be carried out to the ECA. well obviously the so-called experts are clueless about Nigeria. . . because other experts in the past have called for the scrapping of excess crude and replacement with an account backed by law like the SWF. . . . I dont know what part of ECA is not backed by law u dont understand According to Nigerias Constitution.all money should be paid into the federation account and shared by the 3tiers of GOVT there is no provision for Excess crude savings or whatever If a single local GOVT takes u to court,u have to share that money out. . . so again. . .if u or other clueless so-called experts dont understand that. . its for u to go and find out why it is so |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 1:23pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
na_so: Yea we still have about $40billion in external CBN reserves,separate from this Excess crude Account That money cannot be touched by anybody,because the CBN by law is mandated to manage it However this Excess crude was a political arrangement set up by OBJ,it was a good idea Its just that most of the Governors were ignorant and greedy and didnt want a more stringent account in the form of a SWF Hopefully this SWF will be set up,and if the FG must use only the federal GOVTs share of the ECA so be it we cant be held hostage by visionless Governors |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 1:16pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
My Brother , I never "talked" of $20 billion . It is the report that mentions $20 billion and even then a minimally educated person reading the article can see the article does not try and blame Jonathan for the depletion of the entire $20 billions . When jonathan came in the fund pretty much held only about $4.6billion in it. . .so the blame should go to yar adua I am no lawyer but I believe that the same can be done with the Excess Crude Account to nullify the need for an entirely new fund that serves the same purpose. It is the same way Jonathan's purchase of new Planes appear reckless when Aviation experts posit that faults to any of the existing planes can be fixed especially as the Presidential fleet is essentially still new and adequate . Let me explain the difference btw a SWF and ECA. . . ECA is basically like a dormant savings account earning 0% interest. . .but its worse cause there is no basis for its existence in law so GOVernors rightfully,once in a while demand for their money A SWF on the other hand is like an Investment account,which allocates capital to various asset classes. .e.g,stocks,bonds,Infrastructure etc so when the SWF is set up Nigeria might find itself,buying into companies like GOOGLE,Holding Hong Kong bonds that yield 5% -6% and so on. .or an Infrastructure bond for road building in lagos so you get a return on your investment in form of dividends and interest More importantly the fund will have a solid basis in law,as the law setting it up will have to be passed by the NASS |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 1:05pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
It will be particularly difficult for them to defend Jonathan on this occasion. That Jonathan is amassing campaign funds, to the detriment of National coffers , is now obvious to all but the most die-hard fan of Mr.President. U are talking out of both sides of the mouth .If OBJ looted all that can be looted. . how come we are talking of $20billion that he left behind for Yar adua?. . There is no scam here. .i have already told u that there is no law backing the ECA. . .u cannot take states money from them by force. .it is illegal. .If u want to do it u must do it the right way The excess crude account is , more or less, a national "rainy day"account. Taking $1 billion out of it to go and deposit in , essentially, another identical and newly created "rainy day account" that is only different to the excess crude account in name alone ( i.e "Sovereign weath fund" is the clearest sign that this is campaign funds for "do-or-die" Jonathan . What , at this moment , is the rush to establish savings (Sovereign Wealth Fund) that serves essentially the same purpose as the excess crude account? The SWF is not the same thing as ECA. .shows your level of reasoning,every oil producing/resource rich nation on earth has a SWF. . The fund is invested mostly overseas but also in the host country The are strict laws governing such a fund,about disbursements and the like so for u to compare the ECA which is a political arrange ment that can be scrapped anytime,to a SWF is the height of mischief The $1BILLION SET-ASIDE IS ACTUALLY VERY GOOD. . .That way no more money will be shared by anybody and once the law is passed by the NASS. . the fund can start up and running What u dont seem to realize is that this money belongs to the state,local GOVts and the Federal GOVT If the states,demand for the money. . .u have no right to stop them |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 12:36pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
@Gbawe and others Jonathan has proposed the set up of a Sovereign wealth fund. .$1billion of this money was withdrawn for that purpose Now this $20billion u talk of is from 2007 till now. . well the blame rests on yaradua,and the world financial crises. However even if u look at it. . its about $6billion a yr shared btw the 36states and FCT in 3.5yrs So go to the states and ask them what they did with it. . Am sure states like Lagos,Akwa ibom and co have done well with the dough other Governors might have done poorly. . . . I dont buy this arguement of waste,because to start with,the ECA has no basis in law The states can rightfully demand that the money is theirs and they even took OBJ to court Now this is why Jonathan has made the SWF a priority,to be backed by law that way in the future,no-one can withdraw money anyhow so tell me again what the problem is? |
Politics / Re: More Billions Leave Nigeria's Crude Account ! by paddylo1(m): 12:29pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
Ok lets go. . .what exactly are u guys accusing Jonathan of doing let me get this right. . .anybody care to answer? |
Politics / Re: Milton Friedman On Slavery And Colonialism. A Must Watch For Africans by paddylo1(m): 12:16pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
EUROPEAN PLAGUE During the final century of Roman domination, there was a succession of earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and disease epidemics. Soon afterwards, rampaging Vandals and other barbaric tribes completed the breakdown of Western civilization, as they systematically leveled and defiled the great Roman cities and their water systems. [size=14pt]Then came a thousand years of medieval squalor. A thousand years of sicknesses and plague of unbridled virulence, fanned by fleas and mosquitoes, excrement and filth, stagnant and contaminated water of every description.[/size] Age Of Disease: The typical peasant family of the aptly-named Dark Ages lived in a one-room, dirt-floor hovel, with a hole in the thatched roof to let out the smoke of the central fire. The floor was strewn with hay or rushes, easy havens for lice and vermin. Garbage accumulated within. If they were lucky, the family had a chamber pot, though more likely they relieved themselves in the corner of the hovel or in the mire and muck outside. Water was too precious to use for anything except drinking and cooking, so people rarely bathed. Heck, they barely changed clothes from one season to another, wearing the same set every day, perhaps piling on more rags for warmth. These are the conditions which spawned the infamous Black Plague, killing an estimated one third of the European population. Although not directly related to bad plumbing, the plague serves as the most striking example of misery caused by poor sanitation in general, and the ignorance of people in controlling the outbreak. The first of several waves hit England in 1348, caused by flea bites spread by lice that dwelled on host black rats. They, in turn, fed on the garbage and excrement of the masses. London became largely deserted. The King and Queen and other rich people fled to the countryside. The poor were the greatest sufferers. Panic, death and despair followed the abandonment of farms and towns. Wrote William of Dene, a monk of Rochester in Kent, England, Men and women carried their own children on their shoulders to the church and threw them into a common pit. From these pits such an appalling stench was given off that scarcely anyone dared to walk beside the cemeteries, http://www.theplumber.com/plague.html |
Politics / Re: Milton Friedman On Slavery And Colonialism. A Must Watch For Africans by paddylo1(m): 12:06pm On Aug 16, 2010 |
you are as daft as they come. ode sue sue. [b]Who is talking evolution. . .lol I am talking from the beginning of human history till at least 2500 yrs ago black ppl were as u say lording it over and in charge of the world The greeks,romans and co did not appear till around 400b.c or thereabouts(before then they were living in caves for the whole period. . more than 10,000yrs) Human history on earth is at least as long as 13,000yrs Further more when the romans came they lasted a little over 400yrs before their empire crumbled and again the The white ppl u so put on a pedestal fell back into the dark ages,together with the rest of the whites in europe cause the roman empire was just a part of europe not all of it,so then Germans that u respect so much were barbarians(look the word up) so the whole of europe. . .were dieing of plagues diseases,burning each other at the stake,horrible ignorance,burning books,and general anarchy This lasted for another 1000yrs meanwhile in Africa empires and civilization thrived Know your history dude. . .[/b] |
Politics / Re: Milton Friedman On Slavery And Colonialism. A Must Watch For Africans by paddylo1(m): 3:29am On Aug 16, 2010 |
the question is: what a retardted question to ask . . who birthed the other races,exactly. . .? Who became human,who evolved the brain to think and master his sorroundings? Its like asking,when was the time your great grand father was ever ahead of u. . dude if your great grandfather was not there u would never exist today. . Same thing the first humans were Africans,and stayed in africa for 2/3rds of our time on earth as homo sapiens developing culture,language,burying our dead,hunting agriculture and so on , In this period everyone on earth was black,and resided in Africa the other creatures that were in europe and asia were too dumb to survive the so called neanderthals(they died off) Pls know your history. . . .b4 asking incredulously ignorant questions |
Politics / Re: Meet Nigeria's Face of Corruption 2010 by paddylo1(m): 1:48am On Aug 16, 2010 |
Ileke-IdI: ok hon. . . |
Politics / Re: Meet Nigeria's Face of Corruption 2010 by paddylo1(m): 1:39am On Aug 16, 2010 |
Paddy mi, ko si nkankan . Iwo n ko? Ah. . mo wa pa. . .mo easy bi sunday morning. . . Hit me up on FB if u free. . . |
Politics / Re: Meet Nigeria's Face of Corruption 2010 by paddylo1(m): 12:56am On Aug 16, 2010 |
@ileke kilon shele? |
Politics / Re: Obasanjo, Ibb Crash Atiku’s Ambition by paddylo1(m): 12:54am On Aug 16, 2010 |
Dude shut up!! . . . . You take pride in jabbering. U must be crazy. . who u talking to me. . ? better stick to being frustrated in America,or wherever the hell u are Zap. .tard!! |
Politics / Re: What Is Jonathan's Tower of Babel. by paddylo1(m): 12:51am On Aug 16, 2010 |
what a stupid piece of journalism. . .The author is in effect advocating for a white elephant project to make us all feel good. . . what about this. . . .Now thas a solid series of achievements in only 4months [size=14pt]For the first time, Nigerians have an electoral umpire who a majority has confidence that he will deliver a credible election. A tested technocrat like Professor Barth Nnaji is busy with the power sector reforms, Ndutimi Alaibe now has a full grip on the amnesty and Henry Odein Ajumogobia is articulating a responsive diplomacy that could make Nigeria stand tall among the comity of nations. Our international friends have once again started opening up their alliances with us and we can now get invited to G2O meetings. The petroleum industry bill (PIB) is making progress at the national assembly and the financial sector reforms seem to be on course. Granted momentum is needed in the war against corruption generally seen to be ineffective and selective and the recent rising government expenditure profile amidst palpable poverty among citizenry leaves a lot to worry about. Yet President Goodluck Jonathan even before he officially declares stands tall among the lot![/size] http://thewillnigeria.com/opinion/5561-NIGERIAS-2011-ELECTIONS-THE-PROSPECTS-GOODLUCK-JONATHAN-PRESIDENCY.html |
Politics / Re: Lagos State On The Move. by paddylo1(m): 7:19pm On Aug 15, 2010 |
MORE PICTURES. . .NEW ROADS DR OLOWOPOPO DRIVE (At Night) TOB wilson road |
Travel / Re: Eko Atlantic City. . Construction Update July 2010 by paddylo1(m): 5:43pm On Aug 15, 2010 |
@Horus thats a different project. . .the Lekki Free Trade zone. . . |
Politics / Re: State By State Progress Chart. by paddylo1(m): 5:39pm On Aug 15, 2010 |
This map seems ok to me. . . although ondo,might be a dark green olusegun mimiko. . seems to be doing alright |
Politics / Re: Obasanjo, Ibb Crash Atiku’s Ambition by paddylo1(m): 5:37pm On Aug 15, 2010 |
sharrrrap my friend whats the meaning of that?. Every Nigerian has the right to contest for presidency on any political platform .This is why Nigeria will Never move forward. Free and fair Indeed!!!!! .If JEG is that Popular as some people made us to believe why not let the people decide? Now you are happy that Atiku is out of the way and you dont see anything wrong with that as far as GEJs project is on course .I pity you , ATIKU and IBB should go form their own party too and contest no one is stopping them but u cant just decamp your way in and out of a party as the wind blows The president is the head of the party In AMERICA OBAMA is the head. . thats how its is GEJ is the head of the PDP. . .and the sooner u realize it the better. . . |
Politics / Re: Obasanjo, Ibb Crash Atiku’s Ambition by paddylo1(m): 2:00pm On Aug 15, 2010 |
Good One down. . .one(IBB) to go. . . . "I play chess not checkers homie. . . GEJ" |
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