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Henry120:
Only F-7 pilots. 27 in all for a couple interceptors.

Until you prove otherwise those are deemed to be all the pilots in the nigerian airforce

Henry120:
Only F-7 pilots. 27 in all for a couple interceptors.

Until you prove otherwise those are deemed to be all pilots in the nigerian airforce

Henry120:
The SU-30 in that video isn't a carrier borne fighter.

The video shows the SU-30 is by far the most manoeuvrable fighter in the world.

Low level low speed maneuvers which are useless in combat

Those maneuvers were developed by russians who needed them to either bleed speed for emergency landing on smaller russian carriers or to abort landings

Henry120:
You don't have pilots. It isn't even a question of training. SAAF personnel are too dull to fly the Gripen.

So you have abandoned any serious arguemnt and now sling petty insults?

You sound like a very angry man, angry that your wartime military plays second fiddle to a peacetime one from a country with a smaller economy

I would be angry too

Henry120:
We have the Freedom of information law in Nigeria. You don't in South-Africa.

No, your resources have been squandered, this is way your A109 fleet is grounded, only have 3 C-130's and your 9 pilots only fly 1hr30mins per month in the Gripen.

You are right - we dont have that law

Because we dont need it when we have the Constitution of 1996 which grants us rights and privalidges you can only dream of

A109s were groundes due to paperwork, it had nothing to do with funds - do you want me to expose your lies?

3 C130's operational on SAAF because we take maintenance seriously, how many of yours are operational? How many of yours are operational?

14 Gripen pilots who get kver 50 hours per year

Now answer my question, if SAAF is at peace, and is smaller than NAF yet is considered "broke" with a simular budget to NAF - what does that make NAF?

Henry120:
Is that plane allowed to do that?

How, why, why manipulate the laws of physics.

The SU-30 is indeed a beast, this SU-30 video is by far the best military video i've seen.

Is such manoeuvrability even legal?

This is by far the most manoeuvrable fighter I have seen. Who even does that?

The Algerian and Ugandan pilots are sure very happy pilots. The bend, the free fall and a swoop. No one messes with the SU-30.

Those are low level low speed mauevers deaigned for aborting carrier landings

Henry120:
Nigerian F-7 pilots who also passed out.

Lol no

Thats every pilot in the NAF

Henry120:
You have no money, you have no pilots, you have no aviation fuel.

How do you plan on putting the Gripens in the air, through wishes?

It won't work.

18 000 hours should be enough to get them trained up

Henry120:
So, when is mexico coming to pick up the Gripens?

only after boko haram sets up in abuja

[quote author=agaugust post=29082349][/quote]They dont say anything about it being civilian grade there

Stop wasting our time with symantic arguments

In use solely with the military= military item

agaugust:

Nope, it is a small civilian satellite built for civilian Russian ministry called ministry of defense, confirmed by Russia itself

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Augugbug

You are wasting everyones time

Its a military sattellight built for the ministry of defence - if its only use is by the military, its a military item

agaugust:
Fool, Swingfire is British, T-72 tank is Russian so it carries a Russian ATGM. Fool !

Its a snorkel

agaugust:
Very poor air maneuver by the SAAF Gripen pilot, he was afraid to do real combat maneuvers for attack and defence.

Your SAAF pilot did air show for civilians, compare him to Algerian pilot below. SAAF has NO SINGLE qualified Gripen jet pilot today !

Compare South African UN-QUALIFIED pilot and QUALIFIED Algerian pilot below in the videos :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHwVJY5TyW0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjO-kWuBBE

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Why are suddenly talking about algerians?? You said no Gripen pilota are qualified - i gave you one

agaugust:
You have ZERO re-engineering and construction skills in South Africa. Your country cannot slant a vertical tube to horizontal position.

Reason why Chinese engineers are your masters in defense manufacturing industry worldwide. ANC fools !
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Ok, whatever

Fact is- it needs VLS

Henry120:
And your Rand has performed worse than the Naira this year.


The only service broke here is your SAAF. It is written all around you, from your 9 Gripen pilots to your 3 C-130's for a 1.2 million KM area.

They all scream....... broke.

Because our press have the freedom to raise such points - unlike yours

Iff we are broke with practically the same budget as you - and not fighting a war- what is the state of the NAF??

Lol

AugustineAgain:
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[size=16pt] South African air force is d.ead o !

No single Gripen jet pilot is qualified, the whole 26 Gripen fleet few only 200 hours in one year !

200 hours shared among 6 pilots means 33 hours flight per pilot per year !

No aviation fuel for SAAF o !

No single Gripen pilots if qualified to fly the Gripen in combat !

SAAF has NO qualified combat pilots o !

Yee ! Yeeee Egba mi ooooo ! My Nigerian brothers egba mi oooo ! Wahala dey ooooo !

South African air force combat force is NON-EXISTENT o ! [/size]
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Where are you getting these numbers from?

600hours? says who?

you?

NaijaPikinGidi:
So how many pilots do you need to fly the 4 Gripens? Commonsense!

8 pilots were rotated

stillchris:
Nigerian military has been executing traitors and saboteurs since it's inception. it's a law that guides discipline mumu.

you sound like you are new to the internet.

Undersupplied men who are overwhelemed by the enemy and forced to flea should not be executed.

Is archaic and it destroys moral, even the highly diciplined german army and highly ideological red army of ww2 learnt that executing men will not stop them retreating

So our spy sattelight has been launched

We now take the lead over nigeria in this feild with out advanced russian Kondor-E synthetic appeture sattelight

Henry240:
Did you not see where I indicated "80 Aircrew and ground personnel"?

Is this how you get the supposed best education, by failing the most basic comprehension?

You read slowly, yet did not comprehend.

Lol

Henry120 cannot even comprehend what is happening

But then again, he doesnt know what ground and air crew are

Henry240:
They been in australia is all the citation I need.

No that is not a citation

Henry240:
Also remember the SADF isn't the same as the SANDF, as officers such as colonel eben Barlow have deserted the force.

Some left

Some stayed, such as Col Dixon

Whats your point?

Henry240:
Sharap, you claimed your Gripen pilots receive a totally different training to others, when I raised the fact the Czech republic could raise a total of 80 air crew and ground personnel for 5 jets.

Olodo!

Not even making sense anymore

agaugust:
Paper approval is NOT = Cash release for purchase.

SANDF is broke !
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Lol

Funds have alleady been releases dingus

Henry240:
The men are in australia.

Prove it

Henry240:
Yeah, experience is passed down, I agree, but for the SAAF, and your military, the old guard have all run away to australia.

I can bet, 80 % of the cops in the seize in sydney were former SANDF operators.

So for South-Africa, it is a link non-existent.

[citation needed].

The large number of military expats is because we cut the SANDF from 200 000 to 80 000

Henry240:
The SADF is not the SANDF. Virtually all members of the defunct SADF have all ran away to Australia.

[citation needed]

Henry240:
In your case, they should probably be sold off to Mexico. There is absolutely no need for anything you have in your pathetic Airforce. They are all usually grounded or in the Freezer anyway, they sure won't be missed.

Maybe to your 3rd world mind

But reality is a very different thing

Henry240:
No you did not. The SANDF only came into existence in 1994.

Colonial formations + boer commandoes became Union defence force became SADF which became SANDF

We had an army before nigeria existed

Henry240:
Pity you only got 9 pilots, 18 air crew members for your Gripens.

If they could easily be converted, you wouldn't be stuck with 9 pilots. Pity you are.

No, you have prepared for nothing. You have instead gone on an ego boosting spending spree you could not afford in 1999, cannot afford today, and still won't be able to afford tomorrow.

Nigeria buys what Nigeria needs, we consider our present and future threats and we purchase accordingly.

If you had tried it, you won't be contemplating selling your Fighters.

First, we have 14 pilots
Second, we arent contemplating selling the Gripen
Third, your military aquisitions are a joke

With regards to ego spending - south africa was simply maintaining the capablilities we have allways had. We are not a 3rd world military like nigeria

Henry240:
We provided a source a few weeks back. The CAS confirmed them. This CAS flies combat sorties.

A soldier to the core.

[citation needed]

[citation needed]