Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:41pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: It is a Prowler Armoured personnel carrier.
Unlike you, I don't go about parroting a 5% minority owned defence industry. Its a POS and I am Parroting a 100% South African defence industry. That is all that matters. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:20pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
mzilakazi: I am certain that Nigerian air force pilots cannot come any close to that. They are very notorious at missing the targets and panicking. And losing their jets |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:19pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: Only problem is, you don't have one on your APCs. Sorry, but i think you just dun goofed
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:17pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: There is the white owned and run industry, which includes Denel. It's important we know the facts of your defence industry.
I don't have a problem with Afrikanner APC's, i'm only stating the Igirigi is a not an Ugly APC. Off topic posting continues. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:16pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
mzilakazi: Mzansi manufactures jet fuel and one of my fellow countrymen proved to you with a source that SAAF flew over 18000 hours in the past financial year, so what is your prob? that works out to 50 hours per day every day Or 78 hours per airframe per year, assuming all 230 airframes are operational every day of the year (i didnt factor in the 1/3 rule) And it excludes operational flight hours - as that comes from the Joint OP's budget and UN budgets |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:09pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
[size=15pt]Henry, still waiting for your response RE: Jet Fuel  [/size] |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:09pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
DieVluit: How is a company owned 100% by the government 100% white? Have you given up on comparing vehicles in the same class and now are you comparing vehicles in the class of people?
Why? Because your vehicles let you down? You hit the nail on the flat end of the head there. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:08pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: Still 100% white industry. Where are the rest of the 90% of the majority black population?
Exactly, nothing has changed. Reported for off topic posting |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:08pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: That's a prowler APC with a state of the art surveillance system. Another proud Nigerian product. No, that is a POS In every way. If you are proud of that, then I rest my case. Your standards are so low. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 3:06pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 3:05pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 3:03pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 3:03pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Random vessels,
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 3:02pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Indian and South African Vessels up in Saldahna Bay
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 3:01pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
SA Navy MRS doing ship boarding ops
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 3:00pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Hawk and SAAF Lynx
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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 3:00pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Brazil, South Africa, India joint exercises currently underway
Indian helo's and a Hawk
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:58pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:57pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: 100% white Afrikanner defence industry. Moving the goalposts again? Also, citation needed. Yet again - Runs out of argument - MUH ACHEIVMENTS OF MUH 100% black blah blah blah Keep your posts on topic. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:55pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: Guy listen,
When comparing to items, you get an item in the same category as the original item you want to compare with.
You don't compare a Car(sedan) and a Lorry, it makes absolutely no sense to do that.
The IGIRIGI is an absolutely beautiful APC, when compared to the Otokar cobra.
This is my position. If you say its and APC then it is comparable to ALL APC's |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:51pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
[size=15pt]Henry... do you care to retract your "no aviation fuel" statements? [/size] |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:47pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: While you keep posting photos of P.W Botha's military industry.
Thanks to him. Yep, they left us a nice military industrial complex and we have continued to grow it. Not sure how this is relevant though? Since, the question is as to who's is better. Could you explain? Also, Question: Which of these were around in the 1980's? Answer: None - all products of the Rainbow Nation
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:41pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: This is how to compare vehicles.
Photo 1 IGIRIGI
Photo 2 Otokar cobra
What are the now technical details, how have they been used, what conflicts have they seen, how do they look in appearance. - cobra - good Pic one and only one
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:39pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: All your blabbing, yet no Aviation fuel for your planes and no tents for your troops. [size=15pt]The airforce without aviation fuel flew 18 454 hours in the last financial year - which is 50 hours a day, every day of year[/size] The Department of Defence’s 2013/14 annual report - the SAAF flew a total of 18 454 hours for the year ending March 31. http://www.dod.mil.za/documents/annualreports/DoD%20Annual%20Report%202014.pdf I hope this finally puts to bed your petulant and false claims. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:31pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: All your blabbing, yet no Aviation fuel for your planes and no tents for your troops. Still parroting out the same lies? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:31pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
agaugust: Look here, go fool your village farmers with lies, DENEL modified the single launch/multiple launch mounting vehicle structure NOT the range or ceiling. The British sold you only hand held pieces, DENEL modified them to be carried on vehicles, thats all. Then the British winter thermostat that warms it up could be removed for tropical climate use, to avoid overheating because in winter missile systems can freeze, in South Africa you have a warm climate.
The max veiling remains 1km for eternity, and if SANDF landed in Ivory Coast war as you tried to do in 2011 from SAS Drakensberg, ECOWAS will not send Nigeria against you, we will send Togo Republic's Alpha Jets to fly at 2km ceiling and mass R.ape your weak and helpless Air-Defence-Less army 
Show me proof of the enhanced range by DENEL, the Starstreak missile range has always been 5.5km to 6km since Britain sold it to you . You still posting stats for the Starstreak that is in service with the British Army? This is relevant how? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:29pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: It simply means you shouldn't you bloody dummy.
The vehicle you posted is an 8x8 and heavily armoured. The Igirigi is a 4x4, much in the same class as the Otokar Cobra 1, Cobra 2, and every other LAV in the market. That is what you should make a comparism with.
You claim to have a brain, now use it. And the Cobra 1 and Cobra 2 are both pretty average vehicles. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:27pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: Does the Igirigi have a V shaped hull or not? A simple V-shaped hull is 1970's tech (pic related) Does it have blast funnels? Is the engine block and suspension designed to absorb the impact? Is the interior designed to prevent spinal injuries to the crew when the vehicle is hit? Is it specially designed so that a side-impact will not roll the vehicle over? Your first attempt at an MRAP is cute, keep at it for another... 40 years and you will be where we are today.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:21pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
agaugust: That photo you are laughing at is the first prototype Igirigi I APC prototype, the final product is reasonably different.
The first Rooivalk helicopter gunship prototype is an ugly vulture.
Sniper rifle will be wasted by Igirigi, then watch the Igirigi turn a 12.7mm Browning HMG on your sniper location and the sniper will meet his ancestors that day.
Nigerian defense industry is more advanced than Algeria or Ethiopia, only Egypt and SA can compete with Naija defence industry on this continent of Africa.
No other 100% black nation in the world has done what Nigeria has done.
Igirigi II APC
https://chronos-studeos.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/line-ray-camo-3a.jpg
. NTW with the 20mm barrel will punch right through it and through the one next to it. Nigerian defence industry does not compete with South Africa, you have nothing which even compares to what we make. Rooivalk is an advanced peice of hardware - Igiri is a armoured car. There is a difference 100% black nation is irrelevant. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 1:58pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Ibsamar 2014
South Africa, Brazil, India
As host, the SA Navy will have the Valour Class frigate SAS Spioenkop, the Heroine Class submarine SAS Manthatisi, the mine countermeasures vessel SAS Umhloti and an as yet unnamed offshore patrol vessel taking part. Spioenkop will also have a Super Lynx 300 operated by 22 Squadron aboard for the sea phases of Ibsamar.
Drills and manoeuvres expected to form part of Ibsamar include anti-submarine warfare; visit, board, search and seizure and replenishment at sea (RAS).
Other SA Air Force (SAAF) elements assigned to Ibsamar are a pair of 22 Squadron Oryx, a 28 Squadron C-130BZ, a 35 Squadron C-47TP, a PC-7 from Central Flying School at AFB Langebaanweg and “two fighter aircraft” from AFB Makhado. The Navy has not yet specified whether they will be Gripens or Hawks.
The Navy’s Maritime Reaction Squadron (MRS) will also be involved as will elements of the Special Forces.
The Indian Navy guided missile frigate INS Teg will deploy to South Africa for Ibsamar after being part of a flotilla visiting “friendly nations in east Africa,” according to The Asian Age.
Other Indian Navy vessels on this month-long deployment are the destroyer INS Mumbai, fleet replenishment tanker INS Deepak and a second guided missile frigate INS Talwar.
Countries on the Indian Navy flotilla’s visiting list are Madagascar, Kenya, Tanzanian, Reunion, Mauritius and Mozambique, with South Africa being the extra stop for Teg.
The Indian contingent for Ibsamar will number around 250 and will include, apart from the ship’s company, a Special Forces team and a maritime helicopter with the necessary aircrew and support personnel.
The Brazilian component is expected to be around 200 strong on a frigate platform with a maritime helicopter and Special Forces detachment.
The Indian and Brazilian ships are expected to port in Simon’s town on October 20 with post exercise demobilisation set for November 10 to 14.
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