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ThaVluit:
Providing seedlings is a cost to the taxpayer and is only meant to facilitate the industry.

That doesn't mean that the government is the exporter. Individual farmers and entities are. It just makes no sense that if the collective industry exports $10 bn in value, then the government earns $10 bn.

The article is simply a picture of how big the industry is. It has nothing to do with government earnings. We can't even work out from the article how much each of the actual exporters make in profits. How much their income is and how much they pay in duties or income tax.

Nowhere does the article say your government earns $10 bn. you're stretching things. A lot.

Anyway, your article says "nigeria EXPORTS $10 bn ...cocoa". Your bolded sentence is a beeeeeg thumb suck and misrepresentation of what the article says.

Henry120:
You are utterly daft, it isn't shocking any longer. If the revenue for a single commodity is 10 billion usd a year, how can you rationalise the total government earnings to be 25 billion? Fool.

The title say's it all.

EVarn:
I_diot boy,when the americans ran out of vietnam,was that what they did best?,the allied forces and the arab nations have been bombing ISIS/ISIL since months ago,yet they still call the US's bluff,how long did it take the US to terminate osama bin laden?,that was just one man,and how many times was he announced dead only to unleash more terror and mock the US and that crazy george bush.even today,al queada still stands strong.the NA hasnt fought terrorist before,in due time,boko haram will be defeated.

EVarn:
another round of non_sense coming from a half-backed school drop-out.who's talking about exporting the JF-17?,i'm simply talking about manufacturing them for our own use,we can later then use the skills and tech in making our own models and then through international partnership,proceed to begin exporting our own jets.fool,we dont have skills and infrastructure?,goes to show what you know.we cant afford hundreds of them?,250 JF-17=$5billion,so in your mind we cant afford $5billion?,when we are building agro-plantations of over $7billion?,seriously,try making sense.

agaugust:
Nigeria has been invited by Pakistan to be Joint-Venture Develpment partner for the JF-17 Thunder in 2012, the jets block II version which NAF is interested in, just came out of factory production line few months ago. My story is very logical, your own thinking is incoherent and deranged.

NAF is interested in copying our navy that now builds modern stealth warships in Nigeria. The Pakis want some hundreds of millions of dollars for technology transfer on JF-17 Thunder to Nigeria.

Nigeria just pumped $2 Billion into new weapons in the last 4 months and more to come, Nigeria has no financial problem, our foreign debt is about $6 Billion while South Africa's foreign debt is about $40 Billion, you Soweto mugus are the ones broke and living beyond your means, surviving and shining gleefully on borrowed $40 billion dollars from your European white masters in EU, I see a rope of debt tied to Pretoria's thin neck and gets tighter by the day.


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agaugust:
Nigeria has been invited by Pakistan to be Joint-Venture Develpment partner for the JF-17 Thunder in 2012, the jets block II version which NAF is interested in, just came out of factory production line few months ago. My story is very logical, your own thinking is incoherent and deranged. .

agaugust:
Details not yet revealed to public, that's why I said it's a secret NAF deal. However, insider observations from inside Pakistan say a deal was signed for something that includes aircraft industrial manufacturing technology, my guess is NAF will buy this jet and manufacture it locally in Nigeria in future, also NAF was shown a Pakistani mini COIN light aircraft.

Nigerian military remains the most secretive in the world, but by next NAF air expo show, secrets will pop out into public domain for sure as the NAF chief of staff in the photo has openly declared in April that NAF has acquired new fighter aircraft and promised to showcase them to the public at a later date, story was published by Punch newspapers and Janes Defense Magazine
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agaugust:
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Secrets Of Nigerian Air force :

JF-17 Thunder 4th Generation Jet Fighter Deals...3 Days Ago
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Centrifude:
*unrelated*
I was reading about the Swedish Armed forces after the whole ghost submarine saga, and I was surprised to see how seriously high-tech Swedens defence force is, seeing all that High-tech gear only being used in exercises and patrols makes me really sad, to think that there are dozens of African Army's that really need those kind of weapons and would put them to good use if they had them, just makes me wonder what we as Africa's are doing wrong, Sweden has a defence budget of around $6 Billion.
It just make me think that if a country like Nigeria had half the ish Sweden has, Boko-Haram fighters wouldn't even dare try to do the shit they've been doing for the past 2years, they'd just stick to the most common kind of terrorism.

Henry240:
On the parts we disagree, Afghanistan has no Oil, so it is illogical to say the Americans have been in Afghanistan for over 10 years because of oil..

agaugust:
Show me where an army today has towed a Howitzer up to mountain top altitude [size=15pt]using the wings of an angel.[/size]

agaugust:
Like I said, I am out, tired of repeating old arguments and tired of your repitition of same old lies, like you always say Nigeria has no Bofors FH-77B guns, you will soon dispute it again next month despite SIPRI proof that we have it...

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agaugust:
You only trap yourself not me. This same topic was discussed few months back and I am tired of repitition.

Indian officer said 31km range with ordinary HE, so what is the Base Bleed range? Always longer anywhere anytime.

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agaugust:
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See, I have no time for a fraudulent debate with you denying clearly visible information and falsifying facts, I am leaving the forum for you to waste your time not mine.

I am out until sanity returns, the moderators don't even know what to ban, lies and fraud kills this thread more than topic derailment.
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agaugust:
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For the Starstreak I, the British army has proved its max ceiling is 1km. There is NO special SANDF Starstreak I made for only you, NO source says they made a special missile for you, or else I would say Nigerian Roland SAM is special and has missile range of 40km.


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agaugust:
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Only a fool will believe your stories here, you first d.estroyed all your comments by deliberately denying the fact that Nigeria has Bofors FH-77B despite all proofs posted here many times in the past months, that kills all your other arguments and proves that you are a serial liar and not worthy of debating with, before I leave this forum again for you to continue polluting, I will say these...

In that video, at exactly 2:23 minutes the Indian army officer says it has range 31km with HE shell and at exactly 2:26 minutes it says range is 42km with BB shell, you deliberately cut off the 2:26 minute information to preach your lies and fraud here as usual.

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Patchesagain:
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Now come, talk to me about "high altitude" ranges and I will expose you again!!

agaugust:
why should I waste time debating with an open liar and fraudster ?
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agaugust:
Case open


Until you show me SIPRI database of AHEAD ammo or a source that says SANDF ordered and paid for AHEAD ammo, you don't have it and you will never have it until you buy, it is European made. SANDF has ZERO CRAM capability today. FACT !

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Nigeria has Bofors FH-77B.....that has ruined the whole long story you posted above, completely ruined your argument.[/size]


Transfers of major conventional weapons: sorted by supplier. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 1980 to 2013
Note: The ‘No. delivered/produced’ and the ‘Year(s) of deliveries’ columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. Deals in which the recipient was involved in the production of the weapon system are listed separately. The ‘Comments’ column includes publicly reported information on the value of the deal. Information on the sources and methods used in the collection of the data, and explanations of the conventions, abbreviations and acronyms, can be found at URL <http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/at_data.html>. The SIPRI Arms Transfers Database is continuously updated as new information becomes available.
Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 31 October 2014


Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


Sweden
R: Nigeria (48) FH-77 155mm Towed gun 1982 1983-1985 (48) FH-77B version


http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php




Now you see how you post falsehood and garbage on this forum ? Nigeria has FH-77B version of Bofors artillery, and were delivered up to 1985, not the 1978 you quoted. Fool

India followed Nigeria with the same Bofors FH-77B in 1986, same artillery gun


Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 31 October 2014


Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


Sweden
L: India 114 FH-77 155mm Towed gun (2013) FH-77B version; selected but contract not yet signed

R: India 410 FH-77 155mm Towed gun 1986 1986-1991 (410) $1.6 b deal; planned production of more in India cancelled

http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php



The Indian army says and proves in the video below, that Bofors FH-77B artillery has 42km range....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaK1jFg8JBE


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Nigeria and India both have Bofors FH-77B artillery with 42km range....

Confirmed in the above video

Now case closed

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agaugust:
You want me to post how Sudan's armed robbers robbed South African army and stripped SANDF of weapons and body armour?

SANDF army officers crawled like terrified cockroaches back to base in boxer shorts
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agaugust:
All your sources above are crap written by civilians.

The best source of any weapons data is the army that uses it, the video is official from Indian army, both India and Nigeria are proved by SIPRI to have Bofors FH-77B and the Indian army says it's range is 42km with base bleed, and Nigeria has it, SIPRI does not record ammunition sales or shells sales.

Same way South African army official website says you have G-5 and G-6 artillery with max range 39km, so Nigeria CLEARLY out-ranges South Africa, your SANDF is the small boy that makes photos of short range artillery with over-rated pedigree.

Same way British army source on Starstreak missile says SANDF has the 1km max ceiling foolish missile, worst in Africa.

No military source ever said SANDF ordered AHEAD ammo for CRAM, so you don't have it.

All your claims are just another Mokopa ATGM scandal

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agaugust:
The Indian army says and proves in the video below, that Bofors FH-77B artillery has 42km range....

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agaugust:
Case open


Until you show me SIPRI database of AHEAD ammo or a source that says SANDF ordered and paid for AHEAD ammo, you don't have it and you will never have it until you buy, it is European made. SANDF has ZERO CRAM capability today. FACT !


Nigeria has Bofors FH-77B.....that has ruined the whole long story you posted above, completely ruined your argument.


Transfers of major conventional weapons: sorted by supplier. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 1980 to 2013
Note: The ‘No. delivered/produced’ and the ‘Year(s) of deliveries’ columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. Deals in which the recipient was involved in the production of the weapon system are listed separately. The ‘Comments’ column includes publicly reported information on the value of the deal. Information on the sources and methods used in the collection of the data, and explanations of the conventions, abbreviations and acronyms, can be found at URL <http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/at_data.html>. The SIPRI Arms Transfers Database is continuously updated as new information becomes available.
Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 31 October 2014


Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


Sweden
R: Nigeria (48) FH-77 155mm Towed gun 1982 1983-1985 (48) FH-77B version


http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php




Now you see how you post falsehood and garbage on this forum ? Nigeria has FH-77B version of Bofors artillery, and were delivered up to 1985, not the 1978 you quoted. Fool

India followed Nigeria with the same Bofors FH-77B in 1986, same artillery gun


Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 31 October 2014


Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


Sweden
L: India 114 FH-77 155mm Towed gun (2013) FH-77B version; selected but contract not yet signed

R: India 410 FH-77 155mm Towed gun 1986 1986-1991 (410) $1.6 b deal; planned production of more in India cancelled

http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php



The Indian army says and proves in the video below, that Bofors FH-77B artillery has 42km range....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaK1jFg8JBE


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Nigeria and India both have Bofors FH-77B artillery with 42km range....

Confirmed in the above video

Now case closed

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agaugust:
LOL, Game On

Deagel website is known for posting wrong data, it says Nigeria has 12 MBB 339 CD the 4th generation jet upgrade...

"In July 2006, Alenia Aermacchi and the Nigerian Ministry of Defense signed a maintenance and avionics upgrade contract on behalf of 12 MB-339A aircraft. The contract was valued at $84 million and will see the Nigerian airplanes upgraded in two six-aircraft batches."

http://www.deagel.com/Trainers-and-Light-Attack-Aircraft/MB-339A_a000696001.aspx

The final authority is the British army that uses the missile, Deagel is not the army that uses them and has none of the missiles, the missile owners, the British that sold it to you say Starstreak I has max ceiling 1km....

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/23273.aspx

Do you see the photo below from my source? The copyright says 2014 Crown Copyright, means the Queen of England, British government final authority, the Royal crown, approves the content of the website of the British National army as authentic and factual.

So your British masters are telling the whole world that the Starstreak I missile they built and sold to South Africa has maximum ceiling of 1,000 meters = 1km only.

Worst missile in Africa

SANDF has the worst air defense in Africa, Togo republic will mass R.ape soweto army with Alpha jets

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MikeCZAR:
Just to clear things up, India doesn't operate the FH-77 B05 L52 howitzer. The contract to supply India with the artillery pieces was canceled.

The FH-77 B05 L52 was proposed alongside many other pieces like Denel's T6-52.

It was a response to India's RFP(request for proposal).

No country operates it!!!!

agaugust:
Use your brain like an adult. Nobody knows means people in public dont know their numbers, the few top level defense officials know, and they are not here on Nairaland joking forum to waste their time with your type. Fool
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agaugust:
The British army that the missile was produced for, says officially and authoritatively that the maximum Starstreak I missile ceiling is only 1km, your private website is referring to starstreak II which even the British are still trying to get into full service as at now 2014. SANDF is fvcking around with version I at 1km max ceiling, worst expensive missile in Africa.

DENEL built dual purpose gun at home, show me source that you bought the CRAM ammunition made in Sweden or Germany, I need SIPRI source that proves you imported the CRAM ammo, show me now !!!

Okay, then because Bofors guns use 60km range artillery shells, then Nigeria also has it as ammunition for our 73 Bofors FH-77B, right ?

You wish to balance the equation? Let us do so if you say so
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agaugust:
Algeria is superior to South Africa, 48 latest Su-30 Flankers, 100 modern Trainer jets, BVR missiles, anti-radiation missiles, air to surface missiles, 5 air to air refuelling tankers, 36 Mi-35 Hinds, 1,000 T-72 and T-90 tanks, 38 Pantsir SAM air defense, 250,000 army regs and resvs with 11 years modern war experience, deadly assassin special forces with combat experience, 6 submarines, 13 Frigates and corvettes with missile range 250 km anti-ship. Lots of weapons South Africa cannot afford to buy with her defence budget.

Morocco is almost as strong as Algeria, so South Africa is lost far behind even Ethiopia.

You South Africans are just fools with minds locked up in prison by the ANC that deceives you daily with false information that you have the best country in everything in the whole of Africa, you live in a fully hypnotized condition and mind bondage of delusions .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppsigGLPfPY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg3fmQ4aisI

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agaugust:
List how many spy satellites Russia has, and how many new generation submarines, list the numbers because that is the only proof they exist, and how many they are in numbers.

Also list the equipment Nigeria was trying to buy for $15 million from South Africa, since the list of all imported weapons is available on internet according to you.

Also list how many Norinco AGL and MRAPS, plus SPARTARN APCs Nigeria has, since internet data is the only proof of the weapons Nigeria has imported and their numbers.

Olodo rabata .

agaugust:
SIPRI called is Startsreak I because that is what it is, at the time and date you ordered, version II was not existing.

Yet up to 2013 the version II was still being expected in British Army service, so show me how South Africa has it

Okay you ordered it? Show me web link source to prove it, I asked 3 times and you could not answer with proof

Now I know you are in a mess like the Mokopa mess that stinks with falsehood and fake info

The craaaazyu weblink you posted above shows you are totally messed up in your own shiit and poohpooh

See what your link says about 'CRAM ammunition'....

"This site is built to help web surfer like you navigate the web worry free. With our free proxy server, you can browse the web securely knowing that your privacy is completely protected. Browsing the web through our server will mask your ip with our ip so you will remain anonymous."

That is SANDF CRAM ammunition source, abi ? You must have your head stuck inside a pit latrine soaking up the shiit

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