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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:50pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
lezz: this should keep you busy for the weekend:
Safety and security
The most basic function of the state is to provide for its citizens physical safety, protecting them from both aggressive citizens of other countries and from one another. On the national security front, so far, none of South Africa’s neighbours have attempted to invade, so it’s hard to tell how we’re doing, although there is reason to doubt our proficiency. As Du Plessis points out, the army has a very high rate of HIV infection – as this article by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service notes – which makes it a questionable fighting force. In addition, as the arms deal debacle has shown, procurement practices in the SADF aren’t all that gr Again, that is an opinion peice and HIV infection rate in the SANDF is lower than in the general public |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:50pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
lezz: ; the statistics and figures are all from your country. This isn't even international, it's pure local southafrican press But you cannot give us a citation? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:36pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
lezz: let me give you a parting weekend gift:
The South African government must set aside a pool of contracts for participants in the program to compete for. There can be some subcontracting also but prime contracting is the key to business growth. Develop large Black owned businesses and demand that they subcontract to other Black owned firms.
Black should be Black. They must not aggregate all ethnic groups under the label of Black. They should separate and monitor each group. You can’t tell me that the colored, Indians and Chinese endured Apartheid in an equal manner to Blacks. The typical executive in South Africa makes $80,000 per year. A typical Black makes $800 per year. This disparity is intolerable and must be dealt with immediately. Entrepreneurship and business development are the direct ways to correcting the situation. I fail to see how this makes Nigeria in any way better than South Africa |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:12pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
lezz: If we do not arrest the path we are on, where citizens are passive and we are just recipients of what the governing party does and how it says it is changing things but failing to implement, what do we risk by continuing on this trajectory?
We risk being a failed state. We already have signs of that. Show me a democracy where you can have a government that admits 80% of schools are not working. The training system is not working because we have 800,000 vacancies in the services industry and 900,000 graduates who can’t get jobs. We have a system that has failed in the health domain — people are dying needlessly, woman are dying in childbirth in the 21st century.
We have infrastructure that is a shock — as a resident of Limpopo and the Eastern Cape, it’s just shocking. Every year money is allocated to roads but it ends up in someone’s pocket and there is no accountability. How can we succeed as a country in the 21st century? We have an economy that works fabulously for a tiny minority of people. For the majority, can you imagine a country succeeding where 71% of its most energetic, creative segment of the population is not participating in the economy? That’s us. Fifteen- to 34-year-olds are hanging around the car parks or in shebeens and other places where they shouldn’t be because we have failed. This is fact son. Eat that. No, that is an opinion |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:11pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
sirjerry: Describe it however you like, your problem not mine, but something that will be forever written in history and will be taught to generation is that SA was not able to achieve independence, your country have to be safe from modern slavery by other country. Not able to achieve independence? Let me explain something to you. 2 things brought the NP Government down: 1. Massive international sanctions 2. The multitudes on the streets making the country ungovernable Some countries acted as hosts to our fighters but that is all they did. Nigeria did the least - you issued some passports and that is all. Lesotho did more for the struggle |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:06pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
sirjerry: You didn't build your own land you "INHERIT" them from the white, you have no right to judge any african country cause they get to build theirs. Much like you inherited Nigeria from the English (was there a "Nigeria" before they came?!?) Much like you inherited, clothing, vehicals, medicine, education etc etc etc (aka EVERYTHING MODERN PEOPLE TAKE FOR GRANTED) from them - including the ability to extract oil Hell man, you are speaking English right now. Dont come here with asinine arguments |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:28pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
agaugust: You boasted before that you are eating Nigeria's money and we can do nothing to get it back forever.
Now Nigeria threatens you again like the first time we did on yellow fever immigration dispute when we forces Jacob Zuma to apologize to his master in Aso Rock Abuja, now second time we humiliate Pretoria, by forcing you to vomit the money you boasted to the whole world that you have finally swallowed forever.
Watch out for the third humiliation, this will continue from time to time, we own you 
STOP CRYING PRETORIA, GROW UP AND BE A MAN, NEXT TIME RESPECT YOUR GIANT MASTER ABUJA .
https://www.timeslive.co.za/Feeds/ipad_images/2013/10/16/ttp15zuma7-06-10-2013-15-10-08-124-.jpg/ALTERNATES/crop_630x400/TTP15ZUMA7-06-10-2013-15-10-08-124-.jpg What are you even talking about? Dude, learn to PR The worlds media doesnt care that we may (but probably wont) give it back. The worlds media, however, all covered the fact that we confiscated multiple money transfers. Again, I remind you, if we really wanted to stop it we would simply have had the relevant parliamentary committee block the deal. And with regards to yellow fever, it was yet another Nigerian over-reaction (you people are really too sensitive), we blocked you for health concerns, that is all. And yet you threw a tantrum like a child! But here is why Nigerians are so sensitive: Ogunlesi believes however that it is commercial hegemony that South Africa wields over Nigeria that has made Nigerians particularly sensitive to South African dominance. “Those (Nigerians) who are aware of the economic domination of Nigeria by South Africa, this latest behaviour from the South African authorities smacks of arrogance,” he says. “Nigerians are used to two things – First: hearing stories of Nigerians misbehaving abroad, and two, being mistreated by foreign authorities (often linked to the first). But it's a bit harder to accept when we hear that it’s South Africa.”http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2012-03-08-gloves-come-off-in-sa-and-nigeria-diplomatic-feud/#.VED8TPmSx8E[size=15pt] So you see, it is you whom behaves like a child while in your masters house[/size] |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:20pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
iconize: Okay, but Nigerians were never restricted from sitting.  Yeah, instead they were restricted from eating |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:19pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:13pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:12pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
iconize: You don't get it, do yo?
A military dictator killed all those that were against him.
Some white migrants invaded my land, bullied, vanquished and outshined me and my peeps for over 100 years.
Do the comparison. Yeah, and the whites handed over a well developed country and economy and are working along side us to propel it into the developed world. As apposed to your instance, where you were colonized, beaten and abused, the whites got tired of your horrid country, packed up and left, then laughed as dictator after dictator slaughtered your people and sold them (the whites) your minerals and oil Basically, Colony 2.0, all the profit, none of the overheads. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:05pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
iconize: You call him a dictator yet compare him with some boers.
I don't think Abacha ever sent soldiers to whip some peeps living in their fatherland with club sticks, or did he? Nigeria is tops in one feild
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:04pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
iconize: You call him a dictator yet compare him with some boers.
I don't think Abacha ever sent soldiers to whip some peeps living in their fatherland with club sticks, or did he?
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:03pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
iconize: Neither were they bullied by migrants for more than 100 years. 
However, some ancient kingdoms in present day Nigeria fought the white colonialists. How long was Nigeria a colony for? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:53am On Oct 17, 2014 |
overhypedsteve: infinite loops of stupidity, your questions have been answered in the comment you quoted but you still do not have the brain to deduct the answer. I did not study southafrican cultural history my man, there is a thin line between cultural history and political history, i gave you a brake down of the faults of the ancient bushmen in southafrica that led to the imperialist takeover first by DEIC and later to Britain in 1795 although Britain returned it to DEIC in 1803 and reclaimed it again when it realise that the dutch people were allied to napoleon. You do not expect students of strategic studies to sit down to be learning irrelevant cultural issues like how the zulu girls dance, how they nod their head or how they run around naked their mind being void of any form of humanly self esteem know to the civilised men of west, north and central Africa, men that built empires, cities and great culture, believe me my man even if any school is to impute the culture of African PCS ( precolonial societies ) nor their curriculum it wont be that of southafrica. What is good about your precolonial culture? Is it the fact that while westafrica empires where already acquiring guns from the Europeans your dear shaka was busy forming local champion with his Asegai(short stabbing spear). Or is the fact that while other African empires ( most especially north and west African empires) where busy trading with the Europeans and Asian via the trans Saharan caravan trade route your people were busy picking fruits in the bush, piercing themselves abnormally in the name of ornamentals, refusing to eat the meat of their cattles and other such disgusting feats. This is at a time when other African empires where far advancing with sophisticated urban centers like Benin, timbuktu, Cairo. Ve you heard about the malian empire and the civilization that they but for themselves that you re calling your culture " on the edge". Your people where busy running around naked wen other west African and north African empires were advancing in civilization. The truth still remains that Britain only needed the cape as its naval gateway to the east (the then Anglo-Indian trade was the economic sustenance of Britain) it never wanted to expend or commit itself to administering a colony in the cape as the people there where too disorganized, uncivilized and disunited with no form of central government. England knew that organizing this uncivilized people would demand a lot of resource so the British cape authority held this non commital stance till the discovery of Diamond in Kimberly a neutral territory. Oh boy! If not for the discovery of diamond in SA, i do not even want to think what would have happened, you south Africans would have been reared like park animals by the Boers, south Africa would have become a big " wild life park like the safari's in Kenya where Europeans would go to watch bushmen in their habitat. That is your history my man, now chew it up. This man talks of North African empires. Yeah, we have one. Shaka Zulu a.k.a "The Black Napoleon" Furthermore, the Zulu's were the only native tribe, armed predominantly with spears and shields, to defeat the British Imperial Army in a set-piece battle. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:50am On Oct 17, 2014 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:50am On Oct 17, 2014 |
gottfried21: Marines with the new camo Is that the american CAPDAT cammo scheme? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:48am On Oct 17, 2014 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:46am On Oct 17, 2014 |
lezz: only 7% of your schools own libraries and only 15% blacks pass basic exams, i shouldn't really be surprised why you are intellectually deficient, you zulu, cave dwelling village boy. After all the rest of africa is 70 years ahead of you. You are just beginning to learn about life. O look, more made up facts. 0/10 |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:25am On Oct 17, 2014 |
lezz: he is the richest man in africa. And companies in southafrica are having a hell of a hard time. The economy is shrinking, stagnant at best. If dangote is bringing in hard flow of cash, then he is going to have a field day. Larfage(spell check) is trying to compete with dangote by pulling its assets in nigeria and southafrica. Your cement boys know dangote is a monster. What are you talking about? Cement is a nothing company, Dangote is not even a top 50 in Africa (we have over 20 in Africa's top 50 - Nigeria has 1 (and its a South African subsidiary) Our economy is doing just fine. Our companies are doing very well indeed - the JSE hit record highs just a few months ago. We are the biggest receivers of FDI in Africa As usual, you are either simply telling lies or you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. As usual, you come here with no facts or citations. Only empty words. I can provide citations for all of the above if you wish to see them. Your conduct is a sign of a lack of a tertiary education. We have the most diversified and advanced economy in Africa |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:39am On Oct 17, 2014 |
agaugust: . Nigerian military martial arts . I dont think I need to comment on how silly this is. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:38am On Oct 17, 2014 |
agaugust: Mark of high level discipline in Nigerian army, 59 troops will be PUNISHED for breaking the code of Nigerian battle bravery in the face of death. 59 out of 150,000 soldiers is an insignificant but we will still punish them, we Naijas don't accept nonsense in our military.
The whole 50,000 South African army refused to go back and fight Seleka rebels, the SANDF gave some of them medals for cowardice.
. The numbers are slowly adding up How many last time? 59 this time, how many next time? And again, I challenge you to show us where we refused to fight seleka. An entire battalion of men, grippen, rooivalk, oryx were deployed for the counter attack, but the regional powers would not allow us. These are the facts. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:30am On Oct 17, 2014 |
agaugust: Oh ! You now change story ? You guys said our money was for your christmas shopping....LOL
Now we laugh last as Nigeria humiliates South Africa again, just like the Yellow Fever Immigration saga, SA always bows to Naija 
. We have allready humiliated you Our seizure of your funds made international news |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:28am On Oct 17, 2014 |
agaugust: . [size=16pt]MTN must have called Jacob Zuma to stop his foolishness and bow to Nigeria.
We the Naijas kick Saffers azzes all the time, remember the yellow fever immigration diplomatic row, South African nation ALWAYS have to come back apologizing to Nigeria, they always have to say sorry to their senior brother the African giant
[/size] . You do know that every arms transaction has to be passed through parliament? If we really wanted to block the transfer we would do that there. This was simply about humiliating Nigeria - which we done We dont need the money  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:41pm On Oct 14, 2014 |
ChukwuCantDie: - Cape Town the best city in Africa? According to the BBC and CNN? The only town governed by whites in the whole of Africa and you expect them to not vote it as the best in Africa? Are you really that f00lish? I would prefer to live somewhere like Luanda any day. - Camps bay? What is that a gay resort? Only in South Africa.. - Where is Drakensburg? Is that in Germany? - Is the Blyde river canyon somewhere in Scotland? - Yes you have plenty gold and platinum yet the large majority of blacks still live in dirty shanty towns like Soweto, so why are you boasting about it for? - Also yes you may have a higher Per capita income but the black majority don't.
Why don't you boast about the fact SA is the number one crime, murder and r@pe capital in the world year after, year after, year? Dont feed the troll lads
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:05pm On Oct 14, 2014 |
ChukwuCantDie: Its been so long a non mentally challenged bush baby posted in here i forgot this thread wasnt about who has the bigger d.ic.k us or them pathetic drug addicted southies.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:59pm On Oct 14, 2014 |
ChukwuCantDie: You all have AIDS and you run whenever there is trouble i dont care about your stats. So you admit you are only here to troll? Eish, i can taste the jealousy you have |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:58pm On Oct 14, 2014 |
ChukwuCantDie: LIES. Everyone knows SA is only famous for AIDS and Apartheid. - Factual citations - Lies Pic one |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:35pm On Oct 14, 2014 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:31pm On Oct 14, 2014 |
lezz: i am keeping it factual. It is fact that there are 60 murders daily by blacks against whites in southafrica . Unemployment among blaks is sky high. White settlers are now asking the residents of Kleinfontein for admission. I dont see any facts here. I see an absolute load of BS |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:00pm On Oct 14, 2014 |
lezz: and southafrica survives on left overs from thier afrikaan owners or by looting white farms Dont let your emotions take over, brah. Keep it factual |