₦airaland Forum

lezz:
Your heart can bleed for all I care.
[s]You exemplify South Africa's core deficiency: pretence, self-dellusion, false-hype, criminal falsification of statistics and acute insecurity and poor prioritisation.

Let the pic below alter your heart beat and knock your pulse out of rhythm. [/s]

55x better to live in South Africa

Thats all that counts

lezz:
Hmm, Nothing to be embarrassed about.

[s]Rather, South Africa is slipping into oblivion.
It is a horror show for you.
In just over a year you have slipped 2 places behind.

Tell us, what business does Nigeria have to beat you into insignificance economically while fighting insurgency for over 6 years?

Or Egypt which is dealing with Isis and unstable government ?

The answer is simple. Your masters, europeans, are no more.

The world watches from the sidelines as the most inexperienced, incompetent group of Zulus and mixed breeds make a mockery of south Africa in every human indices of development.[/s]

is it 2020?

lionel4power:
1 LST holds 600-700 men, 2 LST holds about 1400-1500 men.
no 1) support ships holds fuel, food and general logistics... they have a crane for offloading goods ashore.

no 2) no a single sub can't sink anything. we can deploy 5 helicopters with the fleet. 3 anti-ship lynx with depth charge. we will bring along our shaldag class is faster than your torpedo and it carries depth charge too.
no 3) like I said before the fleet will be fitted with potent air-defence systems... plus we will equip our infantrymen with strella and blowpipe surface to air. your hawk and rooivalk are not special.

1. Ok - 1500 men against ~50 000 men, ~12 grip, ~24 Hawk, 11 Rooivalk, 200 Olifant, ~150 Rooikat and over 1000 Ratel... seems like a one way ticket to me
2. How much supply do 1500 men require in combat, per day
3. Yes, one sub most certainly can - and all it really has to target is your LST
- You dont have "anti-ship lynx" or depth charge
- Aaaand the Range on a Shaldag is?
4. Your fleet does not have potent AA, Strela and Blowpipe are obsolete - practically useless against modern platforms.
- Ingwe missile outrages the Strela, Rooivalk can attack from stand off distance in complete saftey

I like hypothetical exercises, and I commend you on conducting yourself in a polite and gentlemanly manner. However, this little exercise holds no water whatsoever.

lionel4power:
that's where those 4 support ships comes in... they carry fuel, food and general logistics. 3 frigates and 10 corvette/fast attack craft will provide air defence and shore bombardment.

1. What 4 support ships?
2. 3 Frigates? You have one - and it is not operations, therefore, you have no qualified crew
3. 10 corvette/strike craft - most are not operational (the strike craft at least) and your corvettes are useless in conventional warfare

SAN will sink them with ease

agaugust:
Sagaie will destroy even a T-72 tank.

"Sagaie introduced a GIAT TS 90 series turret mounting a 90mm high-velocity, long-barrel main gun. The major benefit of this installation was its support for an Armor-Piercing Discarding Sabot - Fin Stabilized (APDS-FS) anti-tank projectile which modernized the ERC 90 family against emerging battlefield threats - particularly the ubiquitous Soviet T-72 Main Battle Tank which were appearing in greater numbers all across the world."

http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail-page-2.asp?armor_id=135

You know what? I want to stop replying you with so much free knowledge, you are learning a lot from me but you do not appreciate it, so I think I should leave you alone to live in ignorance and error.

Have a nice day, ingrate.

So then the 105 on the Olifant will pen the T-72 as well?

lezz:
PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE. YOU'RE EVEN LAST IN SCIENCE AND MATHEMATICS. THANKS TO ZULU ANC.

According to an OPINION BASED POLL

Objective =/= Subjective

agaugust:
SANDF has no bridge in Congo DRC.

Sea to shore ship to land artillery bombardment is done before amphibious landing IF coast is defended, many coasts are undefended too.

Normandy beach was blasted with ship to land artillery bombardment before Juno landing by amphibious vehicles. You claim to be in the navy and yet do not know what shore bombardment/fire support is

That's why you like to run away from me on this forum....when i crush ya ballz

1. Because we dont need a bridge?
2. Why are you talking about Amphibious operations? \

As usual you shift and slide like a snake... now you are talking about amphibious operations?

You are a very sad human being

agaugust:
Single shot capability ONLY 60 rounds per minute.....fvcking slow rate of fire on a $ 5 million Badger IFV !

Nigerian 23mm Igirigi fires 1000 rounds per minute !

Nigerian 30mm BTR-4 fire 500 rounds per minute !

So what?

Accuracy > R.O.F

Also, 4km range

agaugust:
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[size=13pt] Big problem, SANDF new Badger IFV so much boasted about here, does NOT have automatic cannon !

It's GI-30 30mm Cam main gun fires only single shots like a bush animal hunter's rifle [/size]
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http://www.armyrecognition.com/south_africa_african_army_wheeled_armoured_vehicle/badger_denel_8x8_armoured_infantry_fighting_vehicle_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures.html


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Are you reta.rrded?

Seriously? Are you fvcking retadrr.ded?

agaugust:
Does your army carry bridges everywhere they go on the battle space like it's a backpack portable bridge? You carry bridges on your MRAPs?

I have never seen a photo of SANDF armoured vehicles in Congo or Sudan followed by loads and loads of trucks carrying bridges, your army did not even deploy bridge construction materials and engineers in Congo DRC, you deployed infantry only.

You want the enemy to wait for you to order aircraft lifting bridge building materials from Pretoria to arrive in 3 days? The enemy has already gained tactical battlefield advantage over you and crossed river Congo while SANDF is killed in their stranded and trapped position.

Also can you build bridges across the Atlantic ocean for amphibious landing when your ships are anchored 5 km away from sea shore to avoid enemy mortar and artillery fire? You ever see an army build pontoon bridge that long on an ocean?

My question is how come you crossed the river to the other side with tanks while you were spending and wasting days and days requesting your army HQ to send trucks and trucks and trucks loaded with heavy pieces of bridge construction equipment to be transported over long distance on off road rough terrain while your main army of armoured non-amphibious vehicles remain stranded and trapped at the river side unable to cross, while the enemy pursuing you from behind has caught up with you and demolished SANDF to be buried by Nigerian army at the lake side?

You say how come we are behind you on that side of the river? Okey then we are the ones on the other side of the river waiting for you with T-72 tanks armed with ERA armour and 125mm killer main gun !

Dunce, your foolish argument is claiming that your army is on the two sides of the river, you are building bridge to cross on the left river bank, yet you claim you are on the opposite side on the right river bank waiting with tanks.....fool, only you spread all over the battle space like termites? Where is the enemy position then ?

Stop wasting my time, South Africa has A BIG TACTICAL DEFICIENCY with no amphibious armoured vehicles, stop twisting military doctrinal and tactical facts, I am a trained battlefield simulator, stop arguing blindly with me. Accept free education from Nigeria and learn .

Only the fools of South Africa will build a tactical combat bridge across a huge ocean....nation of fools, no wonder your economy is crumbling.

PHOTOS : AMERICAN MARINES AMPHIBIOUS ARMOURED VEHICLES CROSSING WATERS IN 2014

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[img]http://www.doncio.navy.mil/uploads/0814XVE13274.jpg[/img]
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1. Yes, if the need bridges they do. We did not need bridges in DRC

2. MARINES DOING AMPHIBIOUS ASSAULT

3. Argument invalid - we deployed bridges multiple times in operations in angola

Your argument is meaningless and vauge and applies equally to you.

You are a complete assclown

agaugust:
If the enemy is not coming from behind you, then he is on the other side of the river, so he is waiting for you with his tanks, you are the one who now needs to cross a wide lake Victoria with pontoon bridges and not all pontoons can hold a heavy tank to cross.

Do you know how much heavy material in large numbers is needed to be transported from your HQ base to a far away river? You think is like loading one truck with oranges? How many building materials are needed to bridge a large lake and how many days to transport them by land especially if it's over harsh road terrain, you dunce? See why modern armies have simple solution of amphibious vehicles? Fool, SANDF is a bunch of fools with no amphibious vehicles in 2015 !

By the way, does your motorized infantry drive around with bridges all the time in case they might need them ? All we see in your military exercises are basic MRAPs.

1. We will go around the lake
2. Again, irrelevant we will go around the lake
3. Yes - in militaries that plan, if there is an need to cross the water obsticle it will be deployed.
4. I dont see anything at your military exercises because you havent had one in 6 years

agaugust:
How did you cross to the other side of the lake or river? SANDF has NO amphibious armoured vehicle? If a water body is too wide your bridge layer cannot span across the distance if you want to build pontoon bridges, the enemy will catch up from behind you and wìpe out SANDF at the water side, then dump their dead bodies into the river to tilapia fish to eat.

Meanwhile IMF says Egypt has overtaken South Africa in GDP as every thing about South Africa continues to decline.

South Africa is getting wrecked even without a war or insurgency at home, imagine where the country will be if they were the ones fighting a 6 year Boko Haram war on homesoil.

Declining economy, no wonder Botha never wanted to hand over the country to empty brain Zulu- Xhosa- Bantu people who rank below Somalians on intelligence rankings for Africa

[img]http://cdn1.vanguardngr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/285x368xJacob-Zuma1.jpg.pagespeed.ic.bSW3BTa5m8.webp[/img]
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Nope - mobility warfare, we go around it

EVarn:
Indeed,we will.
Nigeria must unite the black world and bring about the era of negros.
Imagine what will happen if we can generate massive electric power and use it as one of our foreign policy reagents in Africa; If we can power Africa,then,a Nigerian president wouldnt be only a president in Nigeria,but an emperor of the black race.
The best way to gain leadership is by using the most obvious weakness of your target to propagate your own grand agenda,for the greater good of all.

Jesus Christ.

Nigerians are literally insane

lionel4power:
we have 2 landing ship tank.. NNS AMBE and NN ofun
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here's an excerpt from a Sierra Leone newspaper years back.

On 02 December 1997 Sierra Leone's military junta accused
Nigeria on Tuesday of moving an amphibious tank landing ship
and two support vessels into Sierra Leone's territorial waters. A
military spokesman said the NNS Ambe and two support ships
had anchored 30 nautical miles off the Sierra Leonean coast
before pulling back into international waters. "The three Nigerian
warships which anchored about 30 nautical miles in Sierra Leone
territorial waters have sailed back into international waters from
their former position," the spokesman said.

fear of invasion.
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so you see how we outclass you? we can invade any country in Africa except Egypt, morroco and algeria

1. Its inoperable
2. 4-5 tanks =/= invasion (capacity of the craft)

agaugust:
American Muslims carried out 911 attack in New York, or you think Boko Haram did it? Fool at forty.

No, those were not American muslims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks

The irony that you are going about calling people fools when the only fool here is you

agaugust:
You have no source to back up your lies.

Prove your claim, burden of proof is on you, same way I proved that Roland shõt down bombs in Falklands war.....now Citation needed for your claim today that France and Spain phased out Roland.....prove it or you are a shame to the whole coloured race of Cape Colony !
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You cant use google?

agaugust:
The SANDF armoured bridge launchers are just as big and heavy as those of Nigeria, there is a standard or else a tank cannot drive over the launched bridge, anything less than standard to carry 60 ton tanks will collapse. You should pay me for all these free education.

The allies use amphibious Sherman battle tanks to swim the sea and break through German concrete bunker and pill boxes that were killing allied infantry like mosquitoes.

No army drives everywhere with bridge launchers hoping to meet a river. You buy amphibious armoured vehicle's like Nigeria.

Comparing Amphibious assault to a river crossing again?

agaugust:
IRA is trapped on a tiny land mass surrounded by Atlantic ocean and have no means of importing antiaircraft cannon in hundreds like Boko Haram did through Chad, Niger Republiqué and Cameroon....or else if they had that firepower, they will overrun British army bases.
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Id.iot

agaugust:
Nigeria would have bought Akash SAM by that time.

Yeah, and pigs will fly by the 4th of July

agaugust:
Fool at forty.

North East Nigeria is a different country called Kanem Bornu empire - Kanuris live there, not the Nigerians.

Fool at forty.

Its part of your landmass

agaugust:
Like Patches would tell you that a Marine is not an army man.....maybe he thinks they are special police

A Marine is not a Soldier

A Marine is a Marine

They have to fundimentally different jobs

agaugust:
SANDF is busy failing at operation Corona in their own fatherland against ordinary cross border smugglers and robbers that are 10,000 times weaker than Boko Haram that has anti-aircraft cannon and rockets.

Go fix your failing homeland army before you condemn others.

80 000 in 6 months.

That is a failure?

Nigeria:
- Boko Haram
- Word Piracy hotspot
- Nigeria Delta Crisis

Your army has more than failed

stillchris:
I dare you Patrick to bring a citation to back your claim that northern Ireland is not part of Uk/great Britain - Northern Ireland.

And for the last time you dumb fvck... It's Britain not England.

"Northern Ireland (Irish: Tuaisceart Éireann[6] [ˈt̪ˠuəʃcəɾˠt̪ˠ ˈeːɾʲən̪ˠ]; Ulster Scots: Norlin Airlann) is a constituent unit[7] of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in the northeast of the island of Ireland"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland

Now disproof that with your own facts. Not ignorant opinion

Look at a map

stillchris:
Northern Ireland you fvcking retard.

And England is part of the union you this olodo

And stop giving your personal opinions

Its not my personal opinion

Its a fact of geography

Is N. Ireland part of England?

NO!

Same as Wales and Scotland

agaugust:
If you say Nigerian army fails at home, it means that the Great British army equally failed at home, or you have two different yardsticks for judging an African army and an European army ? Juvenile illiterate !

Is Ireland part of England?

agaugust:
Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the Irish are NOT a separate nation, they are ruled by the same British prime minister and queen. IRA is as much terrorist as Book Haram....both are insurgents ....what kind of English dictionary do you use at home, the one written by a carpenter?

No

Irish are not English

Same as the Welsh and Scottish

agaugust:
.....because it was the opposite case for you in Bangui.

the french did not ask us for intel sharing?

agaugust:
It's South Africans who like to boast about range....blah blah G-6 Rhino has longest range blah blah

Is artillery the same as air defence?

Can an artillery shell be tricked by flares?

agaugust:
50% of Nigeria is Islamic by religion, if Americs has 50% like Nigeria that means about 150 million Islamic believers as citizens living in America, then New York will be worse than Paris in terrorist attacks. How many million Islamists do you have as citizens of South Africa?
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No, your assumption is that American muslims would hate america and that the American armed services would not be able to stop them

Both are false

agaugust:
American marines and British marines are trained and equipped to fight in foreign countries, US Marines don't fight on American soil, so they are failing where their traditional duty post is....Marines home is in foreign lands. Just educated you free of charge.

Size of USMC: 182,000
Size of US Army: 546,057

What role do Marines have and what role does the Army have?

agaugust:
Great Britain fought a modern day IRA insurgency war for 27 years on British soil you dunce !
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Ireland is not part of England

Do you need another Geography lesson?

agaugust:
Ask America and Britain why their super power weapons have not defeated Taliban terrorists in Afghanistan after 13 years of war......also ask USA, UK, Canada, France, etc have not defeated ISIS after 8,000 air bombardments by the most powerful air forces in this world.

Meanwhile, Nigerian military has reduced Book Haram to Okada riders and bicycle riders, 90% of them have been killed and all their armoured vehicles destroyed .

1. How many towns did Taliban controll while NATO was on full deployment?

2. Air campaigns do not equal victory, or else allies would have won ww2 in 1943

3. The armored vehicles they took from you?