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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:05pm On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
Over 80 % of Nigerian roads are built by Nigerian indigenous engineering companies with no single white man in their staff.

http://www.3ptechies.com/business/top-5-engineering-construction-companies-nigeria.html

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Still moving the goal posts?

ok well done, you have less tar roads... but thats ok because a black guy built them.

Only Nigerians can find a way to take pride in their lack of development!
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:51pm On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
90% of roads in South Africa were built by white men during apartheid era, your white masters built your nation, you forgot your painful history?
[moving of goal-posts intensifies]

Total paved/tarred road surface:
South Africa 158,952 km
Nigeria 28,980 km
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2085.html

Peasant nation with dust roads! Cant even figure out how to pour tar!
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:49pm On Oct 24, 2015
lionel4power:
your country always express its outrage and anger in the most savage way...

violence is always your first line of action...

your shaka zulu wanton heritage has stained your blood like a red wine on satin dress...

you cannot handle your grievance in an appropriate manner...

this rubbish cannot happen in Nigeria... we're more civilized
Student protests were largely non-violent, so you have no real argument here.

Nigerians dont have any real rights to strike or protest... so we dont actually know how you would behave!

Also, last time I checked... YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR 3RD CIVIL WAR!!

People in glass houses....
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:45pm On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
[s]Bwhahaha grin grin

Now we have found weapons made in Nigeria by NAF with 100% Black men and no white man's support like they do in South Africa.

SAAF engineers with their Zulu brains CANNOT build simple rockets, they cannot produce weapon.....LOL.

Patches you should be ashamed of yourself with that post you made.

Pic 1 is NOT a rocket pod, that's a MRLS for artillery on ground, not a jet fighter rocket pod for air to surface attack you fraud !

Pic 2 is NOT a fin rocket for air to ground attack use by jet fighters, it's an Umknonto surface to air missile you posted , you dunce !

Now we have found a lot pf weapons made in Nigeria that South Africa does NOT produce, we beat you on those points, you import all ypur rockets we build at home.

Now see my own

Pic 1.....NAF made rocket pod

Pic 2..... NAF made fin rocket

Pic 3......Zulu Spear, South African black man's only weapon made without white man's genius[/s]
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1. Lol, that goalpost shifting. They are designed and built in RSA that is all that matters.

2. Its a "rocket pod".

3. Yes, and those missiles are more advanced than your crudely welded messes! And one of them is the A-darter... one of the most advanced missiles in the world!

4. What weapons do you produce that we do not?

Lol, yet again agugbug tries desperatly to distract us all from the fact that Nigerias armaments industry is an archaic mess, not even able to build an MRAP!!

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:41pm On Oct 24, 2015
lionel4power:
savage people
Savage how?

Those students exercised rights Nigerians could only dream of!
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 10:06am On Oct 24, 2015
horlams:
Are you a military engineer? huh
No, but I know what i am looking at.

If i were a military engineer i would know the technical term and not just call them "wings" grin grin grin

Its just an observation... since we cannot see the ammo boxes I cant definitively say (ZPU has angled ammo-boxes and ZSU has vertical ammo boxes)

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:58am On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
ATR-42 uses Gabbiano radar with 407 km range, no helicopter comes close on earth !

ATR=42 radar is dual mode air to surface and air to air, it also functions as a secondary AWACS.

ATR-42 has long range TV camera, you wont find that on your Lynx

ATR-42 has a cabin loaded with ATOS equipment, tons of computers and electronics, ESM and ECM capability, mapping and analysis capability.

ATR-42 has ELINT capability and your Lynx just looks like a toy
1. Prove yours has that radar please

2. No, that does not make it AWACS

3. Lynx has exactly that, and better optical systems in general

4. Citations for YOUR ATR

5. Citatiosn for YOUR ATR

Do you want a reminder of what our Lynx has? You have no such thing in your arsenal!
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:56am On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
Show us armed drone in service with SANDF.....or telling open lies does not make an old man like you ashamed?

Your morning will be worse with the posts I am making today.

DENEL is building no fuselage for AM 400 aircraft, you are building a small part measuring 16 meters called wing fairing, it's nothing big, it's the joint that connects the aircraft wind and fuselage, the fuselage itself is 30 times bigger than the fairing you are building with aluminium sheets grin grin

Badger is dead without Engine and Chassis from Finland.....and 15 years running, only the Badgers made and fully built in Finland exist, they exported them to you fully built in Finland, you have no 70% of Badger, you have no manufacturing plant to produce it, you actually built nothing grin grin

Sure you gonna have a bad morning today grin grin

#WRECKED PATCHES AGAIN
1. We have shown you many times.

2. Citations posted on this thread prove otherwise

3. 70% of Badger is South African (FACT), 236 have been ordered and paid for (FACT) with 200 to be built in South Africa (FACT)

In comparison
- Nigeria does not design or build armed drones
- Nigeria is not involved in international aerospace industry
- Nigeria is not building one of the most advanced IFV's in the world... Infact, Nigeria has yet to build an MRAP

The only thing that is wrecked is your arms industry... building high-school level model rockets!

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:51am On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
You build almost nothing but MRAPs that you stole the technology from Zimbabwe.

Your G-6 artillery is a Canadian invention, other weapons are built for you by Israeli engineers, many weapons are made by European companies that opened branch factory in South Africa and your government law of BEE and South African shareholding forced them to sell shares to you, then you now claim you own the companies.....go tell that bullshiiiit to the HQ of those companies in Europe.

Brazil revived the A-Darter missile project after DENEL got stuck with lack of technology. Brazil made most of that missile for you.

"Several Brazilian companies are involved in the A-Darter programme, including Mectron, Avibrás and Opto Eletrônica. Mectron makes all Brazil’s missiles (MAA-1/B Piranha air-to-air missile, MAR-1 anti-radar missile and MSS-1.2 anti-armour missile). Avibras is assisting with development of the A-Darter’s rocket motor and Opto Eletrônica is participating in the development of the A-Darter’s seeker head."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20166:a-darter-missile-cooperation-brings-brazilian-minister-to-denel&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

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1. We built MRAP's before Zimbabwe, citations have been provided

2. G6 is not Canadian, the inventor was born there that is all... since that makes the G6 Canadian, can we now claim Space-X, Pay-Pal and Telsamotors as South African since Elon Musk was born in South Africa?

3. Citations needed RE company ownership and who the engineers are

4. Your citation does not prove your claims... do you want me to remind you of what you said?

Yet again, you do everything possible to avoid the tough fact that we are master weapons producers and in comparison Nigeria has built simply nothing impressive at all.

Your defence industry is an absolute joke - fact
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:47am On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
Your British masters simply ripped you off selling a $40 million search and rescue helicopter.

Same way your German lords ripped you off selling a Valour frigate with no guns, no missiles, no torpedoes to you for $300 million, you had to spend money to buy weapons for those frigates. China sells a 4,500 ton destroyer with 100 mm twin gun, 250 km range antiship missiles, 50 km range anti-aircraft missiles for as low as $250 million.

Nigeria buys smart, South Africans are fools of their European masters grin grin
1. Nope, you just got an entry level ATR that costs as much as a helicopter - most equipment missing

2. Chinese sell cheap because the chinese sell trash

Nigeria doesnt buy at all, in comparison to South Africa
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:46am On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
[size=13pt] Bwahahaha grin grin

South Africans finally admit that SANDF is responsible for border security where Rhino poachers sneak across border under their soldier's noses to operate freely in South Africa and sneak out across same border for the second time on return trip.


LOL......SANDF is getting beaten in their own homeland by mere cross border Rhino poachers EVERYDAY !

You army CANNOT secure your fatherland ! What a shame ! Useless SANDF getting beaten in bush tactics at home tongue tongue tongue

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If poachers cross the border then yes they are

Citations have been posted to show a massive drop in cross border poaching

Your selective memory is the only thing that is being beaten here
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:45am On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
Put all your family inside one car and let NAF fire one of our 'thrash' rockets on them and let us see if it is thrash rocket we produce in Nigeria
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Put your family in a car, drive under a bridge and let me drop a brick on your car and let us see

Is a brick now a wonder-weapon? a Wunderwaffe?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:44am On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
Put all your family inside one car and let NAF fire one of our 'thrash' rockets on them and let us see if it is thrash rocket we produce in Nigeria
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Put your family in a car, drive under a bridge and let me drop a brick on your car and let us see
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:43am On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
Nobody knows if that rocket is guided or not, we have made unguided rockets since 2012.

Show me South African made rockets like our own, show me SA made rocket pods and fin rockets like Nigeria has made, show me !
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1. Trash

2. Pic 1 - Rocket pod

3. Pic 2 - "fin rockets"

You post these tiny little hand welded peices of trash here? You are delusional!

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:41am On Oct 24, 2015
agaugust:
Quote the paragraph that says SANDF gets R15 billion.....your source says Police gets 48%.....quote paragraph for SANDF getting 50%. Liar !

SANDF border patrol fund, means you are buying main battle tanks or missiles? That's border patrol equipment to stop illegal immigrants? Fool.

Now quote where SANDF is getting R15 Billion....and show how where it says it's for new weapons of war....you have border war with Namibia?

Fraudster
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I have provided relevant details.

Stop wasting my time.

As an accountant, you should know that a new revenue stream for one department/activity (Border Protection) frees up money from border protection to be used elsewhere.

Yoh, now I have to teach you your job?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 6:45pm On Oct 23, 2015
Henry120:
Exquisitely, Beautifully tricked out Nigerian Army LAV.

- This is how you arm an LAV.

- Infact we can comfortably describe this vehicle as Infantry Fighting Vehicle.

-NA LAV armed with a ZSU-2-23mm cannon.

- The perfect language all terrorist scumbags, from Boko-Haram to ISIL understand!
thats a 14,5mm ZPU... look at the flash-suppressors/muzzle-break

Also the barrel mounts are wrong... they dont have "wings"
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:05am On Oct 23, 2015
agaugust:
Black Soweto engineer forced on DENEL by BEE programme, see the man looking at what the white engineers built, he is admiring it and asking why Zulu/Bantu brains cannot build anything but spears, bows and arrows.

BAE is British, they sold shares to DENEL, they bring technology from Britain to you dullards, now you want to claim you own BAE, yes you own shares, but the technology is imported from Europe.

Gulma drone was never intended to be armed, it's good for it's intended job of surveillance.

Does SAAF have any drone? NO.

NAF has drones, and also built local drones, does SAAF engineers build any drone? NO.

Nigerian army does not use DENEL grenade launchers, we use Chinese LG-3.

DENEL is NOT making any fuselage for AM 400, you are making some tiny low tech parts for it, nothing special. The French just found those small parts cheaper from South Africa.

No major world power uses made in South Africa weapons, except some MRAP vehicles, and they have stopped buying from you, USA now makes better MRAP.

70% of Badger is not made in SA, the entire engine and chassis is made in Finland and imported, all you did was weld some steel together to make the body.....the major component of any vehicle is engine/chassis.

You like stealing other countries' glory and claiming it for Southies.

Thief !
Holy sh1t

Any attempt at a factual argument has gone completel out the window

Facts are this:
-South Africa builds armes drones (in service with the SANDF)
- Fuselage of A400 built in SA
- 70% of badger is made in SA
- Sa builds missiles, artillery, combat managment suites, atgms, SAM's, PGM's, anti-material sniper rifles, machineguns, AGM's , MGL's, MRAPs, Radar, submarine periscopes etc

Nigeria simply does not compare.

Post that collection of model rockets and pleb teir robot again... I am having a bad morning, i need a giggle!
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:58am On Oct 23, 2015
agaugust:
False information....No name of military spokesman, no information from Nigerian military HQ
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"Because i say so"
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:57am On Oct 23, 2015
agaugust:
Brazil gave DENEL the technology for A-Darter missile, the project was grounded and stcuk for many years until Brazilian engineering company came to do the job for DENEL. Those black guys are incompetent BEE employees forced on companies by your ANC goverment

I have no complex, as a Nigerian I actually feel superior to you because my father rescued your father from the white man's chains and cage.

You come here to use European brains to boast about South Africa, what have you blacks and coloureds invented in the hitech world ?
Citation needed that brazil gave us tech
No citation = trolling

You feel superior? No one cares how you FEEL fact is, we build better weapons than you.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:56am On Oct 23, 2015
agaugust:
Your navy does NOT even have any ASW helicopter at all, your Super Lynx is a mere search and rescue chopper you bought for the price of an ATR-42 Surveyor......poor thinking
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Ours is better than yours

And maybe your ATR is a cheap entry level variant? Since it is as cheap as a helicopter!
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:54am On Oct 23, 2015
agaugust:
When I posted Nigeria's Ichoku hand held drone here you said we don't have it in service yet, so now you cannot change the rules.

We don't want story story double standards, the line is drawn on this forum. Any weapon not in service is not recognized.

SANDF has NOT even ordered Umkhonto missile, and no proof there are any missiles left after test firing, and only one launcher built, so drop it in the thrash bin.

When Umkhonto land based enters service, come back and talk, for now YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY WORTHY AIR DEFENCE MISSILE in SANDF
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1. You have yet to post any such drone

2. Denel has it, SANDF has acess to it. Fact.

3. Citations needed for uhmkonto - the missile is under constant production

4. Neither does nigeria

This is so boring
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:52am On Oct 23, 2015
agaugust:
Nigerian AFIT is not a garage, it's like a polytechnic/college of tech, they are building NAF Farawa light aircraft.

Gulma drone is hi-tech.

The drone in that photo above is not Gulma, it's likely the Amebo III drone.

South African hi-tech weapons are produced with foreign help. Finland helping you to build Badger IFV, Brazil gave you hitech for A-Darter missile, you Zulus/Xhosas/Bantus have no hitech brain of your own, your brains can only produce Shaka Zulu spear grin grin
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Augubug doing maximum damage control
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:52am On Oct 23, 2015
Patchesagain:
Read the fist post i made on the topic
SANDF gets R15 billio (50% of 30billion)
SANDF is responsible for border security
Deal with it fagget
agaugust:
Bwahahaah cheesycheesy

Envy galore! South African defense industry has not produced robots like Nigeria....your shitty SouthAfrica defense industry, if the white men don't do it for you it never gets done because you coloreds and blacks are dullards for life cheesycheesy

South African defense industry is dominated by European companies opening branches in South Africa and forced by your BEE program to sell shares to incompetent blacks to put them put on the board of directors by force cheesycheesy

BAE is British, Rheinmetal is German, and Reutech is also European origin.

The day a black or colored South African builds a robot and rocket in the class of what Nigerian blacks have done, I will apply for South African visa and come to congratulate Zulu men
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Your weapons are trash

That is all that is relevant
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:50am On Oct 23, 2015
agaugust:
You posting bullshiiiit, did you read your own post? No wonder you avoided posting the weblink source until we asked for it.

Most of the money increase is going to Police not military, and security of borders means more funds to counter illegal immigration and Rhino poaching.

So how does that translate to the main battle tank photo you added to the story?

You think we are fools here?

SANDF remains broke. Police and border guards gets the money
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Read the fist post i made on the topic

SANDF gets R15 billio (50% of 30billion)

SANDF is responsible for border security

Deal with it fagget
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:53pm On Oct 22, 2015
agaugust:
Nigeria too has many weapons locally made, tested, but not yet in service, not much disclosed, so how do we factor those in?
You call that collection of trash weapons?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Yes, please, factor in your model rockets and sh1tty robots grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:53pm On Oct 22, 2015
agaugust:
Big lie, SANDF pays for DENEL products, or your country runs a business corporation like a charity NGO ?

Show proof that DENEL built more than one launcher of that land based Umkhonto, all we ever see is that same experimental unit from 2013, there is even no proof that there is any 20 km missile in stock after firing the test rounds.

What if SANDF refuses to order it like SAAF refused to order Mokopa?

No military site ranks national armed forces based on the weapons under experiment in their defence industry, your military capability is judged by what equipment are in service in your armoury, or else how does the world rank USA, Russia and China who are always doing R & D and testing new weapons every day?

You are ranked based on what you have ready for war.

Nigeria too has many weapons locally made, tested, but not yet in service, not much disclosed, so how do we factor those in?
1. Yes, in peace time SANDF pays. But in war? Well, just look at Juliet Troop. grin grin grin grin

2. I dont have to, and yes, missiles are under constant manufacture.

3. Why would we? It falls under GBADS which is a fully funded project.

G6 was not ready for war, yet it was deployed in Angola. Raptor H2 was not ready for war, yet it was deployed in Angola.

The historical precedent is set - if Denel has it, and SANDF needs it then SANDF gets it
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:50pm On Oct 22, 2015
agaugust:
Next time get your shiiit together before you come here and post bullshiiit
Government spending on public order and safety and on defence will continue to increase, from R163 billion this year to R193 billion by 2017/18. Police services receive about 48 per cent of the total allocation

Budget provision for border safeguarding and regional security amounts to R2.8 billion and R4.5 billion, respectively, over the next three years.
http://www.sacommercialpropnews.co.za/south-africa-economy/7134-highlights-of-south-africa-budget-speech-2015.html

Unlike you I dont post bullsh1t
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain:
jln115:
R21 billion = $ 2 billion mate !! Which would mean the entire budget of the SANDF must have increased by 50%, which doesn't sound entirely plausible given the current economic situation!!

But hey! I could be wrong!!
Woops!!

Let me dig up the source

Yeah dude just check the mini-budget, they said Defence and Security would go up by R30billion and that 40% of that was going to SAPS
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:01pm On Oct 21, 2015
[size=25pt]SANDF get another R15 billion ($150 million) from the minibudget and another R6 Billion for border security alone!

A total of around R21 billion ($210 million)

Slowly but surely!! [/size]

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain:
frumentius:
"You South Africans would install code in there to spy on us!"

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:26am On Oct 21, 2015
agaugust:
You think only you have excuses to explain why your wish list has not materialized ? I could explain away our own too. Equation balanced
The reality is that our list is in the PROCESS of materializing

Yours are not, and never were.

Also, no South Africans on this forum have been acting like we actually have it - unlike you and your famous "Nigerian T80 will crush Olifant" argument
grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:08am On Oct 20, 2015
agaugust:
How about your own Southie wish list hanging dry since 2012 ?

1. Project Biro OPV
2. Project Biro MPV
2. AM 400 strategic transport aircraft
3. Torgos missile
4. Mokopa missile not ordered
5. Heavyweight torpedo
6. Missile armed Seeker drone
7. ARHLAC light combat aircraft

grin grin
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1. Moving as planned
2. Moving as planned
3. Cancelled - no one is talking anout it
4. Targos was never planned to enter service
5. And so? Denel has it - we have it
6. Moving as planned
7. Ordered
8. SANDF was never going to order ARHLAC

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